Surrender. Instead of telling Marine recruiters to be ready to defend themselves, and instead of allowing military personnel to be armed on military bases, we now have Marine recruiters skulking about in civilian clothes, in fear of attracting the attention of the next mentally ill drug-addicted alcoholic who just happens to be a Muslim who just happens to want to be an Islamic martyr and just happens to read material by Awlaki and just happens to be carrying out an explicit call from the Islamic State, but whose actions have, of course, nothing to do with Islam.
“Marine recruiters told not to wear uniforms after attack,” by Jeff Schogol, Military Times, July 19, 2015:
The military services have taken swift action to increase security after Thursday’s shootings in Tennessee, even closing some facilities and telling Marine recruiters not to wear uniforms in public.
Defense Secretary Ash Cater [sic] approved immediate steps taken by the military branches to increase security and has told the services to get back to him by the end of next week with additional force protection measures, Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook said in a statement on Friday.
The steps were taken just a day after a gunman attacked two military facilities in Chattanooga, leaving four Marines and one sailor dead. Suspected gunman Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez was killed in the attacks on a joint-service recruiting station and a nearby Navy Operational Support Center.
One of the steps Carter approved was Marine Corps Recruiting Command’s decision to have recruiters not wear their military uniforms for now, a defense official said. The recruiting command also closed down all offices within 40 miles of the facilities in Chattanooga and increased the force protection condition level from “Bravo” to “Charlie.”…
ICH says
wimpy wimpy Obama and all the rest of them
history is full of cowards
people will have to rise up on their own it seems
john spielman says
I’m sure General Howl’n Mad Smith ( amphibious corp commander and commander of ground forces of Iwo Jima ) will be weeping from heaven at the cowardly defense dept
Bamaguje says
UK issued similar cowardly advice to British soldiers after 2 Muslims hacked Lee Rigby to death in London.
Stephanie says
3rd President Thomas Jefferson INVENTED the U.S. Navy to DEFEND from Muslims pirates;
he read allah’SS Qur’an & knew the enemy–root cause: 9:111 “SLAY .. achievement SUPREME”
Today, the clown obama rules the U.S.
mike says
Where is Mr Jefferson when we need him most?
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
And don’t forget that Jefferson’s personal copy of the Holy Ko-Ran, which he bought to find out what all the Allahu Akbar robbery and murdering was about, was used by our first ever Moslem congressman to be sworn into office. Some oath swearing that was, he is sworn to Allah instead of Yahweh.
gravenimage says
Yes—and the Marines were those who could pursue Muslim pirates ashore.
The only modification they made to their uniforms in the face of Muslim savagery was neck-guards to protect them from beheading. They weren’t skulking around in civilian garb then.
Rich says
Wow. Just absolutely disgusting. And where are the military brass anywhere who will stand up and publicly resign their commission in protest of nonsense such as this? It is absolutely outrageous that the officers were not armed in the first place. And now the response to an attack is to HIDE in civilian clothes?!? I just can’t believe what I am reading. Welcome to Obama’s socialist paradise. This is truly a sad day for America. Craven liberal cowardice.
Ren says
Not wearing uniforms for not being attacked by islamic terrorists is nonsense. Why not arming Marine recruiters so they can defend themselves from terrorists? Pentagon is cowardly surrenderring!
That reminds me of women wearing the veil or the niqab or the burka in some muslim countries for not being harassed or raped.
Stephanie says
Superior allah, Q9:29 “… willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Stephanie says
OT
To the Iran “DEAL” :
(before latest chap.#9) A SUPPOSITION is enough to BREAK A TREATY Q.8:58 — again at “steeds of war” 8:60 (beheading 8:12, 8:17) with the 8:55 “worst of living creatures (unbelievers)” 8:61 “incline towards peace” “However, this is the peace of subjugation and dhimmitude (cf. Qur’an 9:29)” — for “people of the book (Bible)” … other be killed to 9:5 (NOW in chap.#9, NOT EVEN with a supposition)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/12/hatred-and-violence-in-the-quran-awareness-month-prepare-against-them-whatever-you-are-able-of-power
rev g says
How asinine. Even girl scouts aren’t told to go about incognito. I remember the days when servicemen were advised to avoid wearing their uniform on international flights, but these personnel are on duty in their home country!
Ashley says
This is where we should take a page out of Israels pay book. All soldiers have their weapons on then at all time, not just military bases. This represents a strong army presence. This way if a islamic jihadi thinks about attacking a, true US citizen, themselves, or their brother in arms, it will make it more difficult to complete their task from Allah ( do not praise the ultimate scumbag, blah blah blah peace is def not upon him). PROTECT THE USA. Dont fall for their lies and deciete. Educate yourselves to the truth about Islam.
dlbrand says
“Pentagon orders Marine recruiters not to wear uniforms in wake of Chattanooga jihad massacre”
One cannot not help but wonder, are they allowed to keep and wear their shorts?
Or are they supposed to hang them also, along with their uniforms, outside the entrance door–there, as their peace offering to devout Muslims?
Brian says
Tut tut…are you trying to make someone randy seeing all those shorts on display?
gravenimage says
They can wear their shorts—but are expected to leave their balls at home…
dlbrand says
Dang shame; I say trash the former, bring the latter.
AnnaK says
And maybe their high heels from their stint at the time ,so they” understand how a woman feels” ( because women were born in high heels ?!) Their Commanders could also demand they don a Burkha while they are at it,for the ” ultimate Muslim female experience”
Don Foss says
How many generals and colonels have been forcibly “retired” (booted) in the last 6 years for expressing views and opinions contrary to our civilian administration’s leadership? Dozens, I believe. (MacCrystal was only the most visible.) They are replaced by Obama puppets. Our brass have learned: Tow Obama’s line or lose your career.
Someone above mentions “cowards.” Yep. Their principal concern is themselves. Not America or Americans.
Charli Main says
Is this for real ?????
Military recruiters, in civilian or military dress, will still be working in clearly identifiable military recruitment centres and will remain targets for muslims infected by the islamo-rabies virus.
To avoid this, I suggest that the US top brass order that all military recruitment centres are camouflaged as mosques and recruitment officers dress up as imams.
dlbrand says
Charli Main said: “Is this for real ?????”
“…… I suggest that the US top brass order that all military recruitment centres are camouflaged as mosques and recruitment officers dress up as imams.”
Indeed.
“We” note, we acknowledge, we have troops of another governing system training, living, operating in our nation; therefore we note, our troops our first-choice targets.
Therefore, we order our troops, “Men, Women, get your uniforms off!” “Mask, as much as possible, you are an American Soldier, Marine, Airman, or Sailor!”
mortimer says
Removing the uniform to save lives is reasonable. Highly trained Marines should not be sent out as targets. The government instead needs to figure out how to stop jihadism.
FIRST, they need to learn what jihadism is, before they can stop it. Obama and all his puffed up non-experts need to start by ADMITTING that they DO NOT UNDERSTAND JIHADISM and invite Robert Spencer to instruct them.
MR. OBAMA, WHAT IS JIHADISM? AND HOW DO YOU KNOW IT IS NOT NORMATIVE, STANDARD ISLAM? Merely because YOU say so?
dlbrand says
“Removing the uniform to save lives is reasonable. Highly trained Marines should not be sent out as targets. ”
Mortimer, how about them removing their Military haircuts, and brawny bodies, stout comportment also; how do we mask those for our safety?
gravenimage says
mortimer wrote:
Removing the uniform to save lives is reasonable. Highly trained Marines should not be sent out as targets. The government instead needs to figure out how to stop jihadism.
…………………………
And I know this is not the first time you have said this—you applauded British dhimmitude when authorities there told military personnel not to wear their uniforms in the wake of the beheading of soldier Lee Rigby.
In fact, you even excoriated the idea of Infidels wearing uniforms, claiming it would endanger civilians.
But how can you believe that preventing our military from wearing their uniforms—the very symbol of those who defend our civilized Infidel societies—will help “stop jihadism”?
Instead, just like the closing of local recruitment stations, it will convince pious Muslims that Jihad terrorism leads to Kuffar surrender.
EventHorizon says
“Removing the uniform to save lives is reasonable.”
Standing up to Islamic violence sounds like a better idea to me. That does not include hiding from those that wish to kill you.
“Obama and all his puffed up non-experts need to start by ADMITTING that they DO NOT UNDERSTAND JIHADISM”
Amazing that you do not understand the nature of the current situation. Of course Obama understands Jihad, he’s a Jihadist. It’s the only rational explanation for his actions.
“invite Robert Spencer to instruct them.”
Robert Spencer did train FBI agents until he was canned in 2011 for offending Muslims. They were offended that kafirs would speak truth about Islam. No problem, Obama was there for them. All mention of Islam and Jihad were scrubbed from training documents. See the problem?
Stephen Coughlin is the guy to tell you all about it.
vox populi says
My compliments, fear has won … and soon, no uniforms neither during army service, military attacks or at home. Makes sense. Why not to hide also the american flag on all buildings on US territory ?
Or simply ban it from internet ? Is so offensive to some, you know.
dlbrand says
Indeed. Well said.
Angemon says
I can’t imagine a servicemen feeling anything but contempt for their commander-in-chief and his administration…
Champ says
Indeed, Angemon; and this sets a dangerous precedent for all servicemen and women.
carlos danger says
……not only for the POTUS, but contempt for their entire command structure including the Commandant, the CNO, and the SEC DEF
Champ says
“Instead of telling Marine recruiters to be ready to defend themselves, and instead of allowing military personnel to be armed on military bases” …
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Precisely!!!
particolor says
If a Terrorist comes on the Base ! Take Your clothes off ! Yep ! Makes sense to Me !! :-
carlos danger says
I can identify a jarhead in civvies at 25 yards.
Word.
Every Marine first and foremost a rifleman.
Allow them to defend themselves because the ability to accurately return fire is wonderful thing.
.
dlbrand says
“I can identify a jarhead in civvies at 25 yards.”
Indeed. And the same on all your points stated.
carlos danger says
If you have a few minutes, please check out the linked “Military Times” article, and in particular the many colourful comments from Marines.
Evolution says
What if an army recruiter is a muslim ?
Do you want a gun in their hands too ?
kenny says
What if you had a brain? Wouldn’t that be wonderful.
abad says
Screw Islam.
This is why we need a president who is NOT afraid to round up every Muslim in the USA and deport them to Riyadh. They can screech their ungodly “Allahu Akhbar” all they want in Arabia.
rev g says
They should first have the white house marines wear civvies, and disarm all the security personnel there. Lead by example!
qedlin says
So now the pentagon is filled with PC cowards. “Don’t wear the uniform, don’t make cartoons, don’t eat pork, don’t insult the prophet”…
Where is George Patton when you need him.
Davegreybeard says
FURY!
The Few, the Proud, the Laughingstock!
Inept fools don’t even realize that their actions scream of the knowledge that there is an ISLAMIST threat. If it was as they claim, that the poor fellow was just depressed and crazy, then the Marines were just a random target, no need to do anything, right? The fact that they hide says they know damn well where the threat is coming from.
COWARDICE IN THE FACE OF THE ENEMY!
If I were still in the service I’d probably lose rank for pointing out the obvious. No wonder they have no fear of us and think they can win.
And half our country still supports Obama and the Democrat party.
I feel like the last of the Real Americans…
And we could lose this thing…
Joseph says
@ Davegreybeard
Is it really fair to call all marines cowards?
gravenimage says
Joseph, I would not presume to speak for Davegreybeard. But I don’t believe that he—a proud veteran himself—is calling Marines cowards, far from it. Instead, he is calling the tools at the Pentagon who came up with this dhimmi response to Muslim savagery cowards.
I couldn’t agree more.
Davegreybeard says
@gravenimage
“We should be doing *just the opposite*—allowing military personnel to make a show of strength, going out in pairs or groups, and doing so openly *armed*.”
Aye, graven, I could not agree more!
When I get to be CIC, I’m putting you in charge of Marine recruitment.
Joseph says
@ Davegreybeard
Sorry about that, I had to make sure where your stance was. To me it seemed that the military services implemented this and Defense Secretary Ash Cater agreed. that is why it was kind of hard for me to tell where you were coming from.
Then I am with you 100%. I especially agree on the openly armed. The armed forces have been attacked way too many times on our soil.Our boys need to be able to defend themselves in the face of the enemy.
Again my apologies to a proud Marine, Davegreybeard.
Joseph says
@ Davegreybeard
Sorry about that, I had to make sure where your stance was. To me it seemed that the military services implemented this and Defense Secretary Ash Cater agreed. that is why it was kind of hard for me to tell where you were coming from.
Then I am with you 100%. I especially agree on the openly armed. The armed forces have been attacked way too many times on our soil.Our boys need to be able to defend themselves in the face of the enemy.
Again my apologies to a proud Marine, Davegreybeard.
gravenimage says
Hi Dave. And this sickening reaction is not just the stupidity of a couple of clowns at the Pentagon, since British military honchos had just the same response to the murder of their personnel by Jihadist thugs.
This dhimmitude is a problem affecting most of the West. Our only hope is that enough patriots—both here and in the UK—will speak out.
gravenimage says
Pentagon orders Marine recruiters not to wear uniforms in wake of Chattanooga jihad massacre
………………………
Sickening—how are recruiters going to instill pride in the uniform and what it stands for if they are not even allowed to wear it?
Moreover, this is not the first time the response to Muslims murdering our Western servicemen has been one of cringing dhimmitude:
“UK soldiers warned not to wear uniforms in public: alert over copycat Lee Rigby-style jihad murders”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/uk-soldiers-warned-not-to-wear-uniforms-in-public-alert-over-copycat-lee-rigby-style-jihad-murders
We should be doing *just the opposite*—allowing military personnel to make a show of strength, going out in pairs or groups, and doing so openly *armed*.
Westman says
A terrorist walks into a military recuitment center and sees some burly guys with buzz cuts and street clothes working at a desk. Does he think, I must be at the America Ninja Warrior tryouts, or, these are unarmed military servicemen?
Maybe the sign on the recuitment center should be changed to “Shooting Gallery”
gravenimage says
Good point, Westman. Even as an act of cringing dhimmitude, this response makes no real sense.
Davegreybeard says
Thank you for the apology Joseph, but I am Army not Marine.
As one who walked with a rifle through the paddys and jungles of Viet Nam, I cannot begin to tell you the depth of my anger and rage at this and those who ordered it.
It literally gives comfort to our Islamist enemy, and it is cowardice and a sellout of those brave men and women who choose to serve our country and wear the uniform of its Armed Forces.
You can bet that they also are quietly seething at this order.
Joseph says
@ Davegreybeard
You may be older than I am by a few years but I consider all those that served for our country “my boys”
so I hope you understood why I had to know where you were coming from.
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines I am forever indebted to all of them for this thing I cherish called freedom.
I thank them all.
terry says
Not wearing a uniform would have made no difference.
Michelle Jacobsen says
I see the dhimmi bulbs in Washington are at it again…
vlparker says
Won’t be long before the idiots in Washington have the marines go onto the battlefield unarmed.
gee59 says
Maybe they should wear dresses and carry purses so that they can be like Brucey Jenner too.
As a former US Army officer all I can say it is a very sad day for the “The Few, The Proud, The Marines” – Semper Fi!
CronoT says
Not defending this, but just playing Devil’s Advocate: They may also be worried about Possi Commitatus, IE, the legal principle that prevents the military from being used in law enforcement capacities.
gravenimage says
It isn’t law enforcement if they are just defending their own lives.
Tom Prince says
That is an “unlawful order” as far as I am concerned. To even think about doing this is OUR OWN COUNTRY is an insult to every one who is or ever has been in the military! If I was still on active duty I would have to disobey. Semper fidelis to My Brothers… but not to this cluster___ giving the Country away.
Don says
The same thing happened in here in Canada after a young unarmed Canadian soldier was gunned down in Ottawa while on ceremonial guard duty at our national War memorial in Ottawa last November. The order that directed our forces not to wear uniforms was an embarrassment to our military folks.
The public outcry from Canadians at such a cowardly, stupid decision forced a reversal of the policy. Running for cover like scared rabbits – what a message to send to these animals. Threaten us and we’re done.
Peggy says
How low has the mighty US sunk.
particolor says
Shaking Hands with Davey Jones ! 🙁
Gary says
I say change to always wearing battle dress and arm appropriately.
RG says
Here’s an updated overview of Obama’s “fighting forces”– two gay blades (both wearing officers uniforms) swaggering down the sidewalk holding hands. All firearms and other weapons are securely locked up in the ammo dump where no one can gain access to them, even in an emergency. ‘Soldiers’ now wear earrings in both ears, nose rings, lip rings, tongue rings, ad infinitum…. Military beds are now issued king and queen size (to accommodate gay sex). The mention of the name of God (especially JESUS) is strictly forbidden under penalty of court-martial and imprisonment, or definitely early dishonorable discharge!
OMG – you’d think we had something to worry about…Naaaaa – not to worry, if they attack you, just close down “some facilities and tell… Marine recruiters not to wear uniforms in public.” Yeah, that oughta fix everything!!!!
rockerrocker says
@RG – and we hand-holding atheist gay blades who wear earrings, nose rings, lip rings, etc are proudly serving our United States military. What are you doing, you yellow-bellied coward? Oh, right! Sitting behind a computer screen spewing your homophobic rhetoric. All thanks to ME and my fellow gay servicemen, who fight for your rights. Wither and die slowly, as you’re doing, as the world progresses away from your decaying viewpoints.
Rev g says
There will always be a lunatic fringe, and we respect your right to exist.