
The Pope has said that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence,” so why doesn’t he go to Syria himself and initiate a “dialogue” with the Islamic State, during which he can explain to them how they are misunderstanding the Qur’an and Islam? That will fix everything: not only will the Islamic State forthwith release the bishops and the priest, but they will lay down their arms and distribute flowers to all the little children!
As he prepares for that “dialogue” trip, however, the Pope may face resistance from his own bishops. The holy and God-loving bishop of Worcester, Massachusetts two years ago summed up the prevailing view of the U.S. Catholic bishops: “Talk about extreme, militant Islamists and the atrocities that they have perpetrated globally might undercut the positive achievements that we Catholics have attained in our inter-religious dialogue with devout Muslims.” — Robert McManus, Roman Catholic Bishop of Worcester, Massachusetts, February 8, 2013
So what is Pope Francis doing talking about these abducted clerics? He should keep quiet about such matters, so as to preserve the “dialogue”! Will McManus and the other American bishops call him on the carpet, and “oppose him to his face, because he stood condemned,” as St. Paul did to Francis’ first predecessor, St. Peter?
The contemporary Catholic Church, especially in the West, has confused niceness with charity. It may be nice to avoid unpleasant matters and enjoy delicious hummus and pita down at the mosque, but it is not charitable to confirm Muslims in their bullying and supremacism by kowtowing to their wishes and keeping silent about the atrocities they commit in the name of their religion and in accord with its teachings. The contemporary Catholic Church is heading its people to a disaster for which they might have been fortified and prepared had not their leaders lulled them into complacency and deliberately kept them in ignorance by silencing voices who spoke honestly about the looming threat. Ironic that the preachers of “Be Not Afraid” are the very ones cowering in fear of Islamic jihadists.
“Pope Francis calls for release of priest and bishops abducted in Syria,” by Philip Pullella, Reuters, July 26, 2015:
Pope Francis on Sunday appealed for the release of an Italian Jesuit priest and two Orthodox bishops kidnapped in Syria two years ago, asking leaders to work for the freedom of all those abducted there.
Father Paolo Dall’Oglio, a Jesuit priest who worked in Syria for more than 30 years and who supported the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, disappeared on July 29, 2013 in the city of Raqqa, now a stronghold of militant group Islamic State.
Dall’Oglio was well known in the Middle East and Europe for his work promoting Christian-Muslim dialogue. He was restoring an ancient monastery in the desert and had refused to leave the country for his own safety after the civil war started four years ago.
Several months earlier, two Orthodox bishops were kidnapped in an area near the Turkish border where they had gone to negotiate the release of two abducted priests.
Francis, speaking to tens of thousands of people in St. Peter’s Square for his weekly prayer and message, called for a “renewed commitment” by local and international authorities “so these brothers of ours can regain their freedom soon.”…
Gary says
Release?
Why no! This is the Hotel California – Where you can check out…. but never leave!
The Death Cult: ISLAM
Originated by the father of all lies: Who comes to rob, steal, kill, and destroy.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Don’t forget rape. That’s a big one in the Islam.
mortimer says
…and don’t forget the OFFICIAL Islamic doctrine of religious persecution and duty to hate CHRISTIANS:
Koran 28:86 “Therefore lend not thou support in any way to those who reject Allah’s Message.”
Koran 61:4 “Allah loves those who fight, like a brick wall, in His cause.”
Koran 47:4: “Strike off the heads of the disbelievers” and, after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.”
Koran 8:12: “Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers.”
Koran 9:29 “Fight (and kill) those who were given the Book (Jews and Christians) until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humiliated”
Someone should tell Pope Francis that the Koran teaches hatred of Christians.
Jaladhi says
Mortimer, do you have Pope’s email?? He needs to read the “authentic” Quran and Islam!!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Koran 47:4: “Strike off the heads of the disbelievers” and, after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.”
That’s what I like about Allah, attention to detail. It’s almost as if the Holy Prophet Mohammed made the whole Allah thing up. He was a military man, and Allah is a God, yet somehow a God who lets slip a critical military detail is his commands.
Lia says
Should the Pope go to Syria, he would not need to retire at all. The muslims will get rid of him before climate change does …
Lioness says
Oh, but he will preach peace and dialogue and mutual values to the Islamists in Syria, and they will see the light immediately and realize that the Pope has the true understanding of the Quran.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
What about the thousands of Christian women kidnapped and sold as sex slaves a few months back? Could it be that Pope Frank knows about Islam, and remains quiet on the fate of these poor women out of respect for what is commanded on sex slavery in the Islamic scriptures?
Maybe he should set up a one on one interfaith dialog with Caliph Ibrahim to suss out this deep question.
shams78 says
Those were Yazidi women not Christian women.
duh_swami says
Oh…so it’s OK to kidnap them into sex slavery, and no one should complain…yep…
gravenimage says
The appallingly evil shams78 write:
Those were Yazidi women not Christian women.
………………………………………..
Firstly, the victims were both Christian *and* Yazidi.
Secondly, the vile shams78 must believe that Christians are as immoral as are Muslims, and would care nothing if the victims were non-Christians. Not surprisingly, he understands *nothing* about Christianity.
Further, he appears to believe that everyone at Jihad Watch is Christian—this is not so. There are Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Agnostics, Atheists, and others here as well as Christians. Most of us care deeply about *all* the victims of Islam, not just those who fall into our exact demographic.
Finally, look at the hideous shams78’s uncritical acceptance of his vicious coreligionists using “polytheists” as sex slaves—damn barbarian.
A short post—but very telling of the sickening Muslim mindset.
shams78 says
If lying was defecating, you would have chronic diarrhea.
This is what I said about Yazidis and I support their right to ethnic, racial, and religious self preservation against the physical and religious terrorism that is being waged against them.
http ://www.jihadwatch. org/2015/07/pope-francis-appeals-for-release-of-two-bishops-and-priest-abducted-by-muslims-in-syria/comment-page-1#comment-1274011
shams78 says
July 28, 2015 at 1:01 pm
The Pope as leader of the Catholics should condemn and put pressure on Protestant missionaries who seem determined to wipe out the ancient Yazidi and Mandean communities of Iraq. These Protestant missionaries are bent on preying on vulnerable Yazidis and Mandeans and want to destroy their thousands of year old religion and culture by converting them.
Yazidis and Mandeans have good relations with the local native Syriac Christians the Assyrians and Chaldeans, because those Syriac Christians don’t try to evangelize and convert them. Yazidis sheltered Christians during persecution by the Turks. Yazidis and Mandeans don’t convert and don’t intermarry with outsiders. They don’t let their women date or marry non-Yazidi men.
The terrorist Da’ish and Al-Qaeda want to wipe them out with physical means and Protesant missonaries want to wipe them out with psychological means. They are waging psychological terrorism against Yazidi and Mandean people.
Most Yazidi refugees currently fleeing to Europe, particularly Germany are men. Like 90% of them. Because they forbid their women from marrying and associating with non-Yazidi men alot of them didn’t bring their women over to Europe when they fled Iraq and left them in the refugee camps where they are safe from non-Yazidi men. They don’t want their daughters marrying any non-Yazidi, whether they be Arab Muslims or European Christians. They did some honor killings both in Iraq and in Germany when their women were caught with Arab Muslims or Europeans.
They seem determined to survive, preserve their religion and their ethnicity and blood and customs and its admirable how they’ve persevered for thousands of years. Yazidis are the remnants of thousands of years of Mesopotamian religion and customs.
Pope Francis should instruct the Chaldean Catholics to help the Yazidis ward off these predatory Protestant missionaries hellbent on destroying the Yazidi people.
I like how Catholics stopped sending missonaries and those Jesuits everywhere to convert people around 200 years ago, keep it up, stop annoying the native people.
http ://www.jihadwatch. org/2015/07/proselytizing-for-and-whitewashing-islam-in-teen-vogue/comment-page-1#comment-1272227
shams78 says
July 24, 2015 at 6:19 pm
Speaking of proselytizing, some nefarious and wicked (probably Protestant) missionaries have been targeting helpless and vulnerable Yazidi refugees in Iraq for conversion in exchange for access to visas and aid. They have been distributing religious literature and Bibles to them.
http://www.voanews.com/content/yazidis-say-they-are-begin-targeted-for-christian-conversion/2872137.html
Yazidis mind their own business. They don’t allow others to convert to their religoin and don’t proselytize. And they are the remnants of thousands of years of indigenous Mesopotamian beliefs and traditions. They never waged war on other peoples.
And a group of malevolent missionaries are trying to take advantage of them in their desperate situation.
The Yazidis need to be given humanitarian aid, protection and to be left alone spiritually. I condemn Da’ish and these missionaries who are both trying to extirpate the Yazidis from the face of Earth.
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shams78 says
July 24, 2015 at 11:54 pm
More nefarious behavior.
http://www.basnews.com/en/news/2015/06/08/yazidis-unhappy-with-christian-missionaries/
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/christian-missionaries-encouraging-yazidi-kurds-give
http://www.christianaid.org/News/2015/mir20150205.aspx
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shams78 says
July 24, 2015 at 11:55 pm
More nefarious behavior.
http ://www.basnews. com/en/news/2015/06/08/yazidis-unhappy-with-christian-missionaries/
https ://www.linkedin. com/pulse/christian-missionaries-encouraging-yazidi-kurds-give
http ://www.christianaid. org/News/2015/mir20150205.aspx
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shams78 says
If lying was defecating, you would have chronic diarrhea.
This is what I said about Yazidis and I support their right to ethnic, racial, and religious self preservation against the physical and religious terrorism that is being waged against them.
http ://www.jihadwatch. org/2015/07/pope-francis-appeals-for-release-of-two-bishops-and-priest-abducted-by-muslims-in-syria/comment-page-1#comment-1274011
shams78 says
July 28, 2015 at 1:01 pm
The Pope as leader of the Catholics should condemn and put pressure on Protestant missionaries who seem determined to wipe out the ancient Yazidi and Mandean communities of Iraq. These Protestant missionaries are bent on preying on vulnerable Yazidis and Mandeans and want to destroy their thousands of year old religion and culture by converting them.
Yazidis and Mandeans have good relations with the local native Syriac Christians the Assyrians and Chaldeans, because those Syriac Christians don’t try to evangelize and convert them. Yazidis sheltered Christians during persecution by the Turks. Yazidis and Mandeans don’t convert and don’t intermarry with outsiders. They don’t let their women date or marry non-Yazidi men.
The terrorist Da’ish and Al-Qaeda want to wipe them out with physical means and Protesant missonaries want to wipe them out with psychological means. They are waging psychological terrorism against Yazidi and Mandean people.
Most Yazidi refugees currently fleeing to Europe, particularly Germany are men. Like 90% of them. Because they forbid their women from marrying and associating with non-Yazidi men alot of them didn’t bring their women over to Europe when they fled Iraq and left them in the refugee camps where they are safe from non-Yazidi men. They don’t want their daughters marrying any non-Yazidi, whether they be Arab Muslims or European Christians. They did some honor killings both in Iraq and in Germany when their women were caught with Arab Muslims or Europeans.
They seem determined to survive, preserve their religion and their ethnicity and blood and customs and its admirable how they’ve persevered for thousands of years. Yazidis are the remnants of thousands of years of Mesopotamian religion and customs.
Pope Francis should instruct the Chaldean Catholics to help the Yazidis ward off these predatory Protestant missionaries hellbent on destroying the Yazidi people.
I like how Catholics stopped sending missonaries and those Jesuits everywhere to convert people around 200 years ago, keep it up, stop annoying the native people.
http ://www.jihadwatch. org/2015/07/proselytizing-for-and-whitewashing-islam-in-teen-vogue/comment-page-1#comment-1272227
shams78 says
July 24, 2015 at 6:19 pm
Speaking of proselytizing, some nefarious and wicked (probably Protestant) missionaries have been targeting helpless and vulnerable Yazidi refugees in Iraq for conversion in exchange for access to visas and aid. They have been distributing religious literature and Bibles to them.
http ://www.voanews. com/content/yazidis-say-they-are-begin-targeted-for-christian-conversion/2872137.html
Yazidis mind their own business. They don’t allow others to convert to their religoin and don’t proselytize. And they are the remnants of thousands of years of indigenous Mesopotamian beliefs and traditions. They never waged war on other peoples.
And a group of malevolent missionaries are trying to take advantage of them in their desperate situation.
The Yazidis need to be given humanitarian aid, protection and to be left alone spiritually. I condemn Da’ish and these missionaries who are both trying to extirpate the Yazidis from the face of Earth.
Reply
shams78 says
July 24, 2015 at 11:54 pm
More nefarious behavior.
http ://www.basnews. com/en/news/2015/06/08/yazidis-unhappy-with-christian-missionaries/
https ://www.linkedin. com/pulse/christian-missionaries-encouraging-yazidi-kurds-give
http ://www.christianaid. org/News/2015/mir20150205.aspx
Reply
shams78 says
July 24, 2015 at 11:55 pm
More nefarious behavior.
http ://www.basnews. com/en/news/2015/06/08/yazidis-unhappy-with-christian-missionaries/
https ://www.linkedin. com/pulse/christian-missionaries-encouraging-yazidi-kurds-give
http ://www.christianaid. org/News/2015/mir20150205.aspx
Reply
Pontian1 says
Oh please, they are a combined Religion , a Form of Zoastrianism .. This is Oldest Persian religion predating this Radical Mohammidist group …
The Yazīdī religion includes elements of ancient Iranian religions as well as elements of Judaism, Nestorian Christianity, and Islam.
With the emphasis on Practicing PEACE !!! The Acceptance of all the these religions A Heterodox Kurdish Religion ..
I share in there pleas for freedom and what is now Turkey , that hideous Empire of Doom , who drove out and destroyed all others and took their Homelands and brutalized and murdered their Tribes ..
I know as I am of Pontian , Pontus on the Black Sea , and where my Faith as the Yazidi’s would know E. Orthodoxy bloomed and also of Cyprus , where these same Murderer’s overtook and again tried to say that these lands were theirs ..
Just as these Kurds fight , we stand with them .. I am a Nazerene and will defend and support all who face annilhilation from you who deny any people from their practice of religion and that is why you raped those women as you raped the women of Pontos ..
Remember the ARmenians ?? ANd that never happened either .. Well , the Hellenes face those same Death Marches .. Remember the Lebonese ? The Assyrians ? And Nikopolis ?? How about Constantinople ??
Pssshhhh ! to you .. Those women were more than raped , and the young ones were taken and sold .. May our Lord have mercy on your Souls ..
Jaladhi says
Obviously, the Pope knows nothing about Quran let alone “proper reading”of Quran!! Its amazing how the Western leaders invent ways to give free pass to Islam and Muslims!! When will this madness ever end?? Need a Trump in Pope’s’ position!!
spot on says
Either the MSM has bullied leaders into believing all their lies or most don’t care about lies anymore. Even the Pontiff?
mortimer says
The jihadists want RANSOM money and lots of it.
Jaladhi says
Maybe the pope should follow the writings of Pope Urban II to find “authentic” Islam!! Our leaders keep preaching “authentic”Islam to Muslims – doesn’t seem to impress Muslims!!
mortimer says
Spencer wrote: “it is not charitable to confirm Muslims in their bullying and supremacism”
It is not charitable to sell out the suffering Christians in Muslim countries by throwing them under the bus.
The Church has a PROPHET DUTY to speak out in defense of the vulnerable…JUSTICE AND CHARITY
Angemon says
Unfortunately, it seems the Pope believes the narrative that muslims are acting as savages as a response to grievances rather than simply following orthodox islam.
Brian says
Are they even alive still?
subzero says
Conservative Christians should do everything they can to prevent their children from joining the armed forces and fighting in foreign wars without a Declaration of War from congress. This country doesn’t represent our values any more and actively discriminates against us. Let the Feminists, Liberals and LGBT fight the Islamic terrorists. Maybe they’ll figure out what the Spanish Inquisition was about while they’re ‘spreading Democracy’.
shams78 says
Spanish Inquisition?
I agree, Jews and Protestants are big problems for Catholics.
gravenimage says
The vile shams78 wrote:
I agree, Jews and Protestants are big problems for Catholics.
……………………………………
It is not civilized Jews and Protestants who are kidnapping and murdering Catholic clerics, but shams78’s own vicious coreligionists.
shams78 says
Maybe they’ll figure out what the Spanish Inquisition was about
Yes, they did indeed figure out what the Spanish Inquisition was about. Revenge by Catholics against Sephardic Jews who were castrating Catholic boys.
http ://www.jihadwatch. org/2015/07/islam-as-a-vehicle-for-arab-supremacism/comment-page-1#comment-1270834
shams78 says
July 22, 2015 at 12:23 am
Muslims are not allowed to castrate humans under Sharia. Castration was done by non-Muslims living in the territory of the Caliphates.
Sephardic Jews castrated European boys in Medieval Muslim ruled Al-Andalus (Iberia) and sold these European eunuchs and European girls into the harems of the Arabs. The Ummayad Caliphs in Al-Andalus and Abbasid Caliphs had harems of thousands of white concubines and white eunuchs
Sephardic Jewish pirates like Sinan Reis served in the Ottoman navy against European Christians.
Coptic monks in Egypt castrated black African boys and sold them into the harems of the Ottomans. It was these Coptic monks who were responsible for the 90% death rate of castrated African slaves since they were crude in their methods. Except the author of the article forgot to mention that Copts were doing it to Africans and not Muslims.
The Sephardic Jews were apparently more skilled in the operation since the European boys didn’t have the apalling death rate.
Europeans themselves were often responsible for selling these Europen boys and girls to the Sephardic Jewish slave merchants and Arabs. Your Viking ancestors sold captured European boys and girls into slavery to Arabs where they ended up in the harems and Sephardic Jews in Al-Andalus received European boys from France to practice their knife sharpening skills on.
I see someone below commenting on Swedish culture, in the Medieval times Swedes were selling fellow Europeans into slavery to Arabs.
Angemon says
The sham posted:
“Yes, they did indeed figure out what the Spanish Inquisition was about. Revenge by Catholics against Sephardic Jews who were castrating Catholic boys.”
I see you’re still flexing your ignorance muscles, and making no apologies for it.
Joseph says
@ shams78
Aren’t you gonna give me a spoon for that big bowl of shit you are pushing?
satch1 says
For the Pope to say that God and Allah are the Same? deity, and if it’s only for the expression to get back his priest and two bishops –he is sticking his head in a Big Noose in front of the One True God who will not let this go unheeded. [even if the Pope doesn’t believe what he said was true]
God says, ” I Am the One True God and will have No Others before Me”! Pope Or Allah !
The Pope is making statements like he is performing Gods will from his own mind which is very dangerous !! Yielding to Muslim atrocities is being just as guilty as fighting along side them if saying they are likened to catholic ideas! Pope should read the Bible’
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
God says, ” I Am the One True God and will have No Others before Me”!
Ya see, that’s where the Yahweh God screwed up. Back about the time the New Testament was being wrapped up, the Allah God started amodest career as a rock god among many rocks sitting on a shelf in the Kaaba tourist trap in Mecca. But then Mohammed came along, and then the Archangel Gabriel flew in and started having secret nighttime meetings with Mohammed in a dark cave, and emerged the Holy Prophet Mohammed, and in his heart the reborn Allah God, this time not a rock on a shelf but a monotheistic spirit in the sky wearing a white robe looking suspiciously like Yahweh.
So, by your quote above, Yahweh does not inveigh against the rock god made good Allah God, he leaves room in his careful wording to be replaced by Him. This is what the Moslems think, and they’re the ones who matter, cuz they’re the ones on the march, they’re the ones on the rise. It is that the Allah God came after the Yahweh God, and so he has his rightful place in the Pantheon. All praise Allah!
Voytek Gagalka says
To gain a little more courage in standing to evil, it is high time that this pope refreshed his memory by re-reading a great novel by Alessandro Manzoni “The Betrothed” (Italian: “I promessi sposi”). But, of course, this pope enjoys his earthy life too much, preferring to take a safe stance with his loudly condemnation of the rich and “capitalists,” rather than to become a certain martyr for the truth of his professed creed while taking that proposed travel to Syria and meet his destiny.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The Pope has said that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence,”
How is it possible that making such an obviously false statement is routine nowadays? And this is not just to do with Moslems. Pope Frank’s statement here — Obamaesque in its falsity — has good acceptability, it seems a nice thought, it fits with the popularly accepted narrative, but looking at the facts of Islam one is pretty much forced to conclude that the man is a liar. He is either a full-bore liar or a stone dumbass. One or the other. The former seems more likely.
***
Common use of the word “narrative” now to describe journalism is further indication of how low the world has sunk. It used to be that journalism was an easy job: report the facts and meet your deadline.
Now it’s not so simple, or good willed.
With the pope openly deceiving the pubic for political reasons, what has the world come to?
James Foard says
Stone dumbass. Cloned from Stan Laurel’s DNA
shams78 says
The Pope as leader of the Catholics should condemn and put pressure on Protestant missionaries who seem determined to wipe out the ancient Yazidi and Mandean communities of Iraq. These Protestant missionaries are bent on preying on vulnerable Yazidis and Mandeans and want to destroy their thousands of year old religion and culture by converting them.
Yazidis and Mandeans have good relations with the local native Syriac Christians the Assyrians and Chaldeans, because those Syriac Christians don’t try to evangelize and convert them. Yazidis sheltered Christians during persecution by the Turks. Yazidis and Mandeans don’t convert and don’t intermarry with outsiders. They don’t let their women date or marry non-Yazidi men.
The terrorist Da’ish and Al-Qaeda want to wipe them out with physical means and Protesant missonaries want to wipe them out with psychological means. They are waging psychological terrorism against Yazidi and Mandean people.
Most Yazidi refugees currently fleeing to Europe, particularly Germany are men. Like 90% of them. Because they forbid their women from marrying and associating with non-Yazidi men alot of them didn’t bring their women over to Europe when they fled Iraq and left them in the refugee camps where they are safe from non-Yazidi men. They don’t want their daughters marrying any non-Yazidi, whether they be Arab Muslims or European Christians. They did some honor killings both in Iraq and in Germany when their women were caught with Arab Muslims or Europeans.
They seem determined to survive, preserve their religion and their ethnicity and blood and customs and its admirable how they’ve persevered for thousands of years. Yazidis are the remnants of thousands of years of Mesopotamian religion and customs.
Pope Francis should instruct the Chaldean Catholics to help the Yazidis ward off these predatory Protestant missionaries hellbent on destroying the Yazidi people.
I like how Catholics stopped sending missonaries and those Jesuits everywhere to convert people around 200 years ago, keep it up, stop annoying the native people.
Baucent says
Mate, you’re a boring squeaky wheel who keeps repeating himself.
Champ says
This pope and muhammad share something in common …they are both false prophets! 😉
Joseph says
I would push it a little further Champ and say (in my opinion) they are antichrists.
abad says
The Pope won’t go to Syria for the same reason Obama won’t.
BringBackTheCrusades says
Francis is a new world order socialist.
As his one and only encyclical, coauthored by an atheist who wants to reduce the worlds population to 1 billion, demands that the Catholic faithful submit to this one world order. Therefore, it is in his best interest to embrace the Islam + peace + coexistence matra in order to convince the sheeple to submit and be slaughtered by the religion of pieces. How else can one reduce the population to 1 billion?
VERITAS says
Pope Francis is going to the Central Africa Republic himself where Jihad Watch has reported itself of the Islamic Jihad and sectarian violence. Why don’t you go there yourself for a fact finding mission at the same time. Or will you stay home and wet your pants instead. GK Chesterton said, “Courage is a strong desire to live taking the form of a readiness to die” Pope Francis continues to demonstrate bravery going to regions of questionable security in regards to Jihadists such as the Philippines where an attempted assassination failed. You are like that pathetic soul Donald Trump questioning the bravery and service of Senator John McCain.