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Raymond Ibrahim: Why Muslim Rapists Prefer Blondes: A History

Jul 30, 2015 7:17 am By Raymond Ibrahim

swedish_rape_victimThe Muslim penchant to target “white” women for sexual exploitation—an epidemic currently plaguing Europe, especially Britain and Scandinavia—is as old as Islam itself, and even traces back to Muhammad.

Much literary evidence attests to this in the context of Islam’s early predations on Byzantium (for centuries, Christendom’s easternmost bulwark against the jihad).  According to Ahmad M. H. Shboul (author of “Byzantium and the Arabs: The Image of the Byzantines as Mirrored in Arabic Literature”) Christian Byzantium was the “classic example of the house of war,” or Dar al-Harb—that is, the quintessential realm that needs to be conquered by jihad.  Moreover, Byzantium was seen “as a symbol of military and political power and as a society of great abundance.”

The similarities between pre-modern Islamic views of Byzantium and modern Islamic views of the West—powerful, affluent, desirable, and the greatest of all infidels—should be evident.  But they do not end here.  To the medieval Muslim mind, Byzantium was further representative of “white people”—fair haired/eyed Christians, or, as they were known in Arabic, Banu al-Asfar, “children of yellow” (reference to blonde hair).

Continues Shboul:

The Byzantines as a people were considered as fine examples of physical beauty, and youthful slaves and slave-girls of Byzantine origin were highly valued….  The Arab’s appreciation of the Byzantine female has a long history indeed.  For the Islamic period, the earliest literary evidence we have is a hadith (saying of the Prophet).  Muhammad is said to have addressed a newly converted [to Islam] Arab: “Would you like the girls of Banu al-Asfar?”  Not only were Byzantine slave girls sought after for caliphal and other palaces (where some became mothers of future caliphs), but they also became the epitome of physical beauty, home economy, and refined accomplishments.   The typical Byzantine maiden who captures the imagination of litterateurs and poets, had blond hair, blue or green eyes, a pure and healthy visage, lovely breasts, a delicate waist, and a body that is like camphor or a flood of dazzling light.[1]

While the essence of the above excerpt is true, the reader should not be duped by its overly “romantic” tone. Written for a Western academic publication by an academic of Muslim background, the essay is naturally euphemistic to the point of implying that being a sex slave was desirable—as if her Arab owners were enamored devotees who merely doted over and admired her beauty from afar.[2]

Indeed, Muhammad asked a new convert “Would you like the girls of Banu al-Asfar?” as a way to entice him to join the jihad and reap its rewards—which, in this case, included the possibility of enslaving and raping blonde Byzantine women—not as some idealistic discussion on beauty.

This enticement seems to have backfired with another Muslim who refused Muhammad’s call to invade Byzantine territory (the Tabuk campaign).  “O Abu Wahb,” cajoled Muhammad, “would you not like to have scores of Byzantine women and men as concubines and servants?” Wahb responded: “O Messenger of Allah, my people know that I am very fond of women and, if I see the women of the Byzantines, I fear I will not be able to hold back. So do not tempt me by them, and allow me not to join and, instead, I will assist you with my wealth.”[3]  The prophet agreed but was apparently unimpressed—after all, Wahb could have all the Byzantine women he desired if the jihad succeeded—and a new Sura for the Koran (9:49) was promptly delivered condemning the man to hell for his reported hypocrisy and failure to join the jihad.

Thus a more critical reading of Shboul’s aforementioned excerpt finds that European slave girls were not “highly valued” or “appreciated” as if they were precious statues—they were held out as sexual trophies to entice Muslims to the jihad.

Moreover, the idea that some sex slaves became mothers to future caliphs is meaningless since in Islam’s patriarchal culture, mothers—Muslim or non-Muslim—were irrelevant in lineage and had no political status.   And talk of “litterateurs and poets” and “a body that is like camphor or a flood of dazzling light” is further anachronistic and does a great disservice to reality:  These women were—as they still are—sex slaves, treated no differently than the many slaves of the Islamic State today.

For example, during a recent sex slave auction held by the Islamic State, blue and green eyed Yazidi girls were much coveted and fetched the highest price.  Even so, these concubines are being cruelly tortured.  In one instance, a Muslim savagely beat his Yazidi slave’s one year old child until she agreed to meet all his sexual demands.

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Another relevant parallel between medieval and modern Islamic views exists: white women were and continue to be seen as sexually promiscuous by nature—essentially “provoking” Muslim men into lusting after them.

Much of this is discussed in Byzantium Viewed by the Arabs by Nadia Maria El Cheikh.  She writes:

Fitna, [an Islamic term] meaning disorder and chaos, refers also to the beautiful femme fatale who makes men lose their self-control.  Fitna is a key concept in defining the dangers that women, more particularly their bodies, were capable of provoking in the mental universe of the Arab Muslims.

After explaining how the fair haired/eyed Byzantine woman exemplified Islam’s femme fatale of fitna, Cheikh writes:

In our [Muslim] texts, Byzantine women are strongly associated with sexual immorality…

Our sources show not Byzantine women but [Muslim] writers’ images of these women, who served as symbols of the eternal female—constantly a potential threat, particularly due to blatant exaggerations of their sexual promiscuity….

Cheikh documents how Muslims claimed that Byzantine (or “white Christian”) females were the “most shameless women in the whole world”; that, “because they find sex more enjoyable, they are prone to adultery”; that “adultery is commonplace in the cities and markets of Byzantium”—so much so that “the nuns from the convents went out to the fortresses to offer themselves to monks.”… Keep reading

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  1. spot on says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 8:09 am

    Muslims are disgusting!!!

    • nicu says

      Jul 30, 2015 at 10:56 am

      They are no humans ! Look at their ugly head .- scarves women all fat like tons waddling around .

      It used to be that ” gentleman prefer blond ” – Barbarians do , too !

      They look in the mirror and see what they don’t wanna have !

      In Norway women dye their hair black for not being raped !

    • M S case says

      Jul 31, 2015 at 8:39 pm

      “disgusting” I feel sure you could find a more appropriate word for them but it is hard to reach to the depths of degradation that muslims have always been found in to find the appropriate words for them to be called..

      I sure would hate to belong to a religion or, may I say Cult, and a nationality, that is the most hated in the world.

  2. duh_swami says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 8:46 am

    ‘Blonds have more fun’…Well, maybe if your name is Megyn Kelly. I have known blonds who were not having any fun at all.
    The woman in the picture is not having any fun…Islam is not there to provide anyone fun. If any slave girl appears to be having fun, she will be punished. The only thing that is important is the satisfaction of the male. Some men see that as fun, but that is the wrong attitude for Mahoundians…They should be praying to Allah out loud, or shouting Allahu Akbar while doing the deed…There’s no fun in either of them.

  3. Gary says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 8:50 am

    Let’s not forget muslims believe women are subservient to males – PERIOD.

    Years ago my wife, (While in college), was approached by a muslim male in her class who ‘TOLD HER’ she “WOULD WRITE ALL MY ASSIGNMENTS”.

    She refused.

    He again stated; “YOU WILL WRITE ALL MY ASSIGNMENTS AND I WILL PAY YOU $100.00/PAGE.”

    She again refused….

    Don’t you just love her spunk!!! (Haul Ass Punk! Nobody tells me what I’m gonna do!)

    We’re now married! 😉

    Some guys just don’t know how to capture a women’s heart… Muslims in particular.

    Why?

    They treat women like slaves. They believe they’re “Better Than” women.

    Sadly… Muslims continue to make this mistake.

    God created them Male AND Female. 😉

    • Brian says

      Jul 30, 2015 at 6:31 pm

      Some Muslim men have learned and if they find some women they want to have sex with they use fake charm and beat the hell out of her when she is seduced and accepts his advances.

  4. Baucent says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 8:56 am

    My understanding was that the Byzantine Empire centred on what is now known as Turkey and the people were ethnic Greeks. Their empire extended into modern Syria and the Holy land until the 8th century AD.

    I would have though most “Byzantines” would have olive skin, black hair and brown eyes, much like Greeks today. So where did this Blonde, blue eyed gene come from?

    • mortimer says

      Jul 30, 2015 at 9:43 am

      Your question is backwards. The original tribes of ancient Greece were lighter-complexioned and different from the highly heterogeneous and generally darker Greeks of today. The Peloponnese was invaded many times since antiquity. The medieval Turks imported up to a million northern European women as slaves. An English woman (a slave) was found in the sultan’s harem in 1924 when the institution of the caliphate came to an end.

      The Arabs invaders of Spain demanded a yearly tribute of blond virgins from Gothic inhabitants to be shipped to harems as far away as Baghdad. That did not last long.

      • Deborah says

        Jul 30, 2015 at 10:32 am

        a medieval Turk: Mehmet II (redbeard, green eyes, light skin)
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_the_Conqueror#/media/File:Sarayi_Album_10a.jpg

        a medieval eastern european: Vlad Dracula tepes (black hair, brown eyes)
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_the_Conqueror#/media/File:Vlad_Tepes_002.jpg

        islam is not a race.
        Muslim Turks, Bosnians, Albanians, Chechens is mostly White.
        Muslim Arabs, kurds, Persians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis is mostly Brown
        Muslim indonesians, Malaysians, kazakhs, uighurs is typical asians
        Muslim kenyans, somalis, nigerians, libyans etc is black

        nothing to do with sex slaves

        • Angemon says

          Jul 30, 2015 at 12:29 pm

          Deborah posted:

          “a medieval Turk: Mehmet II (redbeard, green eyes, light skin)”

          And wide girth and double chin.In all fairness, the bear could simply be died, mimicking muhammad.

      • Baucent says

        Jul 30, 2015 at 8:16 pm

        “Early Greeks being blonde?” where did that come from, the “Alexander the Great” trash movie? No, Southern Europeans were always dark haired, brown eyes: Greeks, Italians (Romans), Spanish.
        Remember the quotes from Mohammed speak of a period around 7th century AD, so later importation of white slaves is after the fact.
        I’m more convinced by the suggestion that during the time of the unified Roman Empire, legions and citizens migrated from Northern Europe, even Britain to serve in the Asia Minor province. That could have been the origin of the “Blonde,blue eye gene”. But by the 7th century it would be completely impossible for all Byzantine women to be blondes. More likely a few were and these rare sights became legendary in the minds of the Arabs, and Mohammed used the image like mythical Sirens to attract volunteers to his jihad.

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 31, 2015 at 12:09 pm

          ” by the 7th century it would be completely impossible for all Byzantine women to be blondes.”

          Straw man. Who said “all”?

        • Marilyn Harper says

          Jul 31, 2015 at 12:20 pm

          The same is true today in Latin America. The few natural blondes are highly sought after. I had a friend in graduate school who spent a semester studying in Peru. This blonde American woman received proposals of marriage from complete strangers during that trip! Also note how common it is, in Texas at least, for hispanic women to bleach their hair.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 13, 2015 at 11:04 pm

          Marilyn Harper wrote:

          The same is true today in Latin America
          ………………………….

          Not exactly. A penchant–or even a fetish–for blonde hair is *not* the same as raping or enslaving blonde women.

        • Blonde says

          Aug 21, 2015 at 5:21 pm

          You need to educate yourself a little. The original term “aryan” denotes ancient people from the Turkey/area north of India region, and they were light-skinned, blue-eyed, blonde. You don’t have to take my word – look it up. Also, contemporaries of Alexander the Great indicated that he was indeed a blue-eyed blond. Light-skinned, light-eyed people were highly valued as slaves in the ancient world. In early centuries of Islam, Moors (Muslims) regularly bought and sold light people as slaves.

    • Rob Crawford says

      Jul 30, 2015 at 1:34 pm

      It wasn’t as homogeneous then as now, and don’t forget the Turkish invasion, which changed the region’s genetic mix.

      Since Constantinople was one of the capitals of Rome, people from all over the Empire ended up there. Later, the Varangian guard brought more blonde and blue genes into the city.

    • Donovan Nuera says

      Jul 30, 2015 at 6:02 pm

      There are light-haired women in Persia. Perhaps from various tribes from the Slavic countries (future Bohemia, Hungary, Poland) made their way down there after Constantinople was founded. The Vikings apparently did 900-1100. Who were preceded by the various Goths (Visigoths?) 300-400 tribes who came down from southern Sweden through northern Germany (like the Vandals?). Gallic women from Roman times too?
      Nonetheless, this website is one of the few that are at least paying attention to the continued grenade attacks in Malmo…and the rapes…

  5. Cecilia Ellis says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 9:19 am

    “The prophet agreed but was apparently unimpressed—after all, Wahb could have all the Byzantine women he desired if the jihad succeeded—and a new Sura for the Koran (9:49) was promptly delivered condemning the man to hell for his reported hypocrisy and failure to join the jihad.”

    Guess that took care of it. Muhammad could always rely upon Allah to conveniently respond to circumstances inconvenient for Muhammad . . . something like schizophrenic, tag-team wrestling.

  6. mortimer says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 9:31 am

    Mohammed’s favorite SEX SLAVE was a Christian woman they called ‘Maria the Copt’.

    All Muslims MUST imitate Mohammed, so they all want to RAPE a Christian woman to participate in Mohammed’s sacrilized depravity.

    By admiring Mohammed, Muslims are desensitized to evil and to crimes against humanity.

  7. ich says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 9:44 am

    why do muslims get all bent when you say islam is violent
    then prove to you its not by being violent !!

    the world should be ashamed

  8. mortimer says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 9:55 am

    The picture above is that of ‘Linda’, 18, a victim of MUSLIM gang rape in 2005. She asked that the pictures taken of her after the assault be publicized to show the brutal violence of Muslim savages against women.

    Every time I see this picture of ‘Linda’, I THINK OF ISLAM. This is the ‘moderate’ Islam that ‘respects women’ that we are told exists.

    There is no punishment for raping a dirty kafir woman, because her word is not accepted in a Sharia court.

  9. abad says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    That photo is a little unsettling – Mr Spencer, maybe you should put a “Warning: Graphic” on it? Just a thought.

    Back to my comment: Muslim males obviously think that tall, leggy, blonde American women are easy targets. Disgusting and reprehensible, to be sure, although I must be honest here and say I do not fall into that category. My husband laughs when he says I could never be an easy target as such with my muscular build and short, dark hair. I’m only 5’4″ tall, too.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Jul 30, 2015 at 1:35 pm

      Abad, your husband might need to be reminded that 9-year-old Aisha was probably nowhere near 5’4″ in height and she most probably did not have blonde hair . . . and Muhammad is, after all, the “perfect man,” to be emulated by Muslims. Stay safe.

      • abad says

        Jul 30, 2015 at 7:41 pm

        “Abad, your husband might need to be reminded that 9-year-old Aisha was probably nowhere near 5’4″ in height and she most probably did not have blonde hair”

        Perhaps, Cecilia. While I was attending UA, I’d observe some of the Muslim guys and how they behaved around American blonde women – one of my classmates of that description was dating an Iranian guy. The sweet-, smooth- talking type who promises to buy the woman gold, diamonds, furs, etc. even if he cannot afford them. It strikes me a bit odd that some people still think all Muslim males from the Middle East are into oil, made of money, able to take care of a woman for the rest of her life.

        Maybe it is in my nature to be cynical of such treatment of women by men (I call it a safety gauge). But my husband thinks that’s a good thing. <3

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Jul 31, 2015 at 3:05 am

          “Maybe it is in my nature to be cynical of such treatment of women by men (I call it a safety gauge). But my husband thinks that’s a good thing.”

          Your husband might well be right. What’s that old saying . . . “Beware of Trojans bearing gifts . . .? At any rate, you and your husband have a great day!

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Jul 31, 2015 at 3:06 am

          Oops . . . make that “Greeks bearing gifts.”

    • blonde says

      Aug 21, 2015 at 5:32 pm

      I’m sorry, but why on God’s green earth should Mr. Spencer put a warning on a photo? Because your fragile sensibilities are offended by the truth? We are all grown-ups here; put on your big girl panties and participate in a grown-up discussion.

  10. katnis says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 3:53 pm

    Disgusting. Sick. Sick. Sick. Found this quote in the article to be especially disturbing:

    “According to Gatestone Institute, “Forty years after the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the formerly homogenous Sweden into a multicultural country, violent crime has increased by 300% and rapes by 1,472%.” The overwhelming majority of rapists are Muslim immigrants. The epidemic is so bad that some blonde haired Scandinavian women are dying their hair black in the hopes of warding off potential Muslim predators.”

  11. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    This from an official report on child sex grooming in England:

    There is not one case where it was non-Muslim men grooming Muslim girls, and that despite the fact that 95% of the men in Britain are not Muslims…There is no evidence at all that non-Muslim men are grooming Muslim children, but ample evidence that Muslim men are directing their grooming at non-Muslim schoolgirls.”

    Let’s face it: white women are the best. There is an industry of white girl call girls in Tokyo, who demand and get top dollar. Abu Dhabi has thousands of white girl slaves hidden away in million dollar condos. The riots in Cronulla were caused by Moslem boys assaulting white girls down by the beach. Paris has had innumerable back alley gang rapes of white girls by Algerian and Moroccan immigrants. In Oslo and Stockholm, the chance of a good looking young white girl being forcibly raped sooner or later is quite high, almost probable.

    In America, Infidel black guys have an overwhelmingly strong preference for white girls, but except for the odd case like with Kobe Bryant’s rape episode in Vail, things are relatively calm. And Kobe was able to buy his way out of time in the state pokey on a felony rape conviction. Almost all successful black guys in America have white wives or girlfriends, often both: Derek Jeter, Tim Duncan, Kanye West, Alex Rodriguez, Quincy Jones, Lamar Odom, Harry Bellafonte, Reggie Bush, Michael Jackson, O.J. Simpson, Tiger Woods, Robert Griffin III, Michael Jordan, Keenan Ivory Wayans, Doc Rivers, Bryant Gumble, Scottie Pippen, Ahmad Rashad, Russell Simmons, James Earl Jones, Lewis Hamilton, Charles Barkley, D.L. Hughley, Ice T, Wesley Snipes, Danny Glover, Montel Williams, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. et. al.

    So let’s not get down on our Moslem friends for their predilection. It’s to be expected. Islam is at its root all about sex, so why not some fine wine for an aspiring mass murderer’s recreational pleasure? That’s why I think the New Caliphates will prevail over the PKK, a lot of those female Kurd soldiers are hot, which greatly motivates the boys working for Calph Ibrahim.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jul 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm

      Whoops, missed on one: Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was neither American nor Infidel. He was the real thing. But he liked white girls. A lot.

  12. Walter Sieruk says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    The cruel .vicious and brutal attack by the Muslim thugs exposes the strong and terrible spirit of misogyny that is part of the essence of Islam. This ruthless Muslim attack that happened also occurs many times over around the world because of the power anti-female spirit of Islam. Nevertheless the apologists for Islam still have the outright gall to make the claim that Islam “respect women.” The facts of reality tell otherwise. In truth the facts of reality exposes that claim made by the apologists for Islam that Islam “respect women” to be an outrageous falsehood. As Brigitte Gabriel in her book THEY MUST BE STOPPED informs its readers that “Woman in Islam are considered unclean, deemed inferior even to dirt.” Indeed, they must be stopped.

  13. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    I read all of Ibrahim’s article.

    Muslim men, when claiming that ‘white women’ (or for that matter, *any* women of an Infidel society or community) are rampantly promiscuous, are basically engaging in what psychologists call Projection and Scapegoating.

    They are projecting their *own* violent lusts, their *own* lack of restraint, their *own* lawless Id, onto those whom they intend to rape and abuse. I *bet* that those who are raping, torturing, even killing poor terrified little Yazidi and Iraqi Christian girls aged 8-15, are lying to themselves and telling themselves that the wicked little hussies are seething cauldrons of inappeasable lust that need to be PUNISHED.

    Islam doesn’t teach holy awe in the presence of Beauty; it teaches, instead, a vicious rapacious destructiveness. Grab the prettiest girl in the batch of slaves…then abuse her every which way, beat her, rape her, terrorise her, torment her…how beautiful will she be, after days, weeks, months, years of such relentless sadism, assuming that she survives at all? It’s *exactly* the same thing as blowing up the Bamiyan Buddhas or stamping on a lute or hammering priceless ancient statues…zero in on something precious, holy, beautiful, the more beautiful it is the better…and then ANNIHILATE IT.

    Mohammedans who fill their harem with exquisite underaged/ barely-pubescent blondes…and then rape them day and night in torturous and perverted ways, bash them up, starve them, generally treat them like sh*t…are like an ‘art collector’ who, having collected a room full of exquisite Rembrandts, then proceeds to systematically slash the canvases with a razor, pzz and cr*p on them, and then takes them out and burns them or puts them through a shredder.

    One might add that although the Mohammedans seem to prefer terrorising, torturing and raping blonde Infidel females (and males), if such are not available they are perfectly content to terrorise, torture and rape females of any other description…as evidenced by the gang rapes of South Sudanese Christian women by the jihadi Junjaweed during the jihad in the 1980s-1990s there, and the gang rape unto-death of Armenian Christian women (many of whom are dark-haired and dark-eyed) during the genocide there, and the raping and abuse of Coptic Christian women in Egypt and Hindu and Christian women and girls in Pakistan.

    • shams78 says

      Jul 31, 2015 at 1:14 am

      I’ve actually talked to and met Arab Muslims unlike you, ad all of them, even the deeply devout and religious, were fans of music- including stringed instruments and other instruments of all kinds. Only certain Salafis hate music. The fact that you keep bringing up lute smashing and aversion to music as a typical Muslim trait shows how ignorant and small minded you are. Why don’t you actually visit an Arab country or an Arab community and listen to the music they like to play instead of shooting your mouth off ignorantly?

      Yazidis are indeed not promiscuous and have stringent morals guarding their women’s chastity. The Yazidis absolutely refuse to allow their women and daughters to marry or have close relationships with non-Yazidi men. In Iraq the Yazidis stoned one of their own Yazidi girls to death a few years ago for having an Arab Muslim boyfriend. In Germany, the Yazidi community there killed one of their Yazidi girls for having a Christian German boyfriend. Both honor killings appeared in the news. The Yazidis don’t want their women marrying any non Yazidi whether Arab Muslim or European Christian.

      The majority of Yazidi refugees in Germany who fled Iraq are young men, like 90% of them. That is deliberate because the Yazidis left their women behind in refugee camps where they would be safe and protected from non-Yazidi men, and sent only the young men on the dangerous trek to Germany to claim asylum status. They don’t want neither German boys nor Arab boys gawking at their women. Many male Germans are dissapointed with this.

      The rapes perpetrated by ISIS against their women are sickening and inhumane especially in light of the fact that the Yazidis fiercely guard their women and forbid intermarriage in order to protect their ethnic and racial purity. And ISIS seeks to break it physically. The west does the same except they do it mentally. Western Protestant missionaries want to covert the Yazidis, using ISIS atrocities against the weakened Yazidi to their advantage in preying on Yazidis in refugee camps and westerners are salivating over Yazidi women and want them to marry out just like ISIS. Like the German boys who drool over Yazidi women except they can’t get past their fathers and brothers.

      Iraqi Christians also have some tough morals in the same department. Slightly less since there is no official rule unlike the Yazidis but overall more Iraqi Christian men marry more western women than vice versa. Because they are Middle Eastern their alpha males can easily get western females. And their women are not as loose as western women or western influenced women. There have been cases of Middle Eastern Christians performing honor killings on their girls who were caught with Muslim boys.

      • voegelinian says

        Jul 31, 2015 at 12:32 pm

        I agree that whether or a Muslim obeys Islamic law and forswears music, he still remains a seditious threat to free societies. I.e., a Muslim who happens to like music is not thereby ipso facto a lover of freedom and a critic of the freedom-hating xenophobic culture of Islam. So I agree that such matters as music appreciation are not directly relevant to our safety from Muslims, though they are indirectly relevant in terms of identifying the fanatical source of that sedition.

        • shams78 says

          Aug 1, 2015 at 7:59 pm

          Nothing to do with piety, I said, the opinion on music differs between scholars. Some scholars say certain kinds of music is permissible, some others and Salafis say it absolutely is not Or are you going to claim Salafism is a made up fiction like you did before?

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 14, 2015 at 12:29 am

        The vile shams78 wrote:

        I’ve actually talked to and met Arab Muslims unlike you, ad all of them, even the deeply devout and religious, were fans of music- including stringed instruments and other instruments of all kinds. Only certain Salafis hate music. The fact that you keep bringing up lute smashing and aversion to music as a typical Muslim trait shows how ignorant and small minded you are.
        ………………………………………

        The vicious “Prophet” himself condemned singers and musical instruments. It is not just “Salafis” who hate music–all sorts of pious Muslims condemn music, and attack musicians. Just because some Muslims are lax and listen to music–or drink, or use drugs, or date women–does not mean that any of these things are allowed in orthodox Islam.

        The Hadith are full of condemnation of music.

        Just recently pious Muslims in the Islamic State have criminalized music. Pious Muslims in Libya have burned musical instruments. Al Qaida-linked Jihadists have banned music in parts of Syria. Pious Muslims in Mali have shut down a famous music festival. Jihadists in Mogadishu banned radio stations from playing songs. Iran banned music in the schools. Karachi banned music on public transport after threats from the Taliban. Islamic schools in Britain and France have banned music.

        These are not all “Salafists”.

        “Islamic State in Libya burns musical instruments as un-Islamic”

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/02/islamic-state-in-libya-burns-musical-instruments-as-un-islamic

        More:

        The rapes perpetrated by ISIS against their women are sickening and inhuman…
        ………………………………………

        Why don’t you take this up with your pious coreligionists, who follow the model of the “Prophet” in raping and enslaving Infidel women? But of course you won’t–your only purpose here is lying to the credulous Kuffar.

        More:

        The west does the same except they do it mentally. Western Protestant missionaries want to covert the Yazidis, using ISIS atrocities against the weakened Yazidi to their advantage in preying on Yazidis in refugee camps and westerners are salivating over Yazidi women and want them to marry out just like ISIS…
        ………………………………………

        Uh…right. Rescuing girls from sex slavery is exactly the same as enslaving women and using them as sex slaves…sarc/off

        shams78 may not have noticed, but Western Christians are civilized people, and feel no need to force women to sleep with them. But then, it is simply impossible for Mohammedan males to conceive of such a thing–they believe that everyone is as barbaric as they are. Sick.

        More:

        Iraqi Christians also have some tough morals in the same department. Slightly less since there is no official rule unlike the Yazidis but overall more Iraqi Christian men marry more western women than vice versa. Because they are Middle Eastern their alpha males can easily get western females.
        ………………………………………

        Not surprisingly, the only time the ugly shams78 would say anything in favor of Christian dhimmis is when comparing them to Westerners.

  14. celticwarriorcanada says

    Jul 30, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    Disgusting ! How could anyone in their right mind respect this religion , ideology or whatever the hell it is ! And politicians want to protect these beliefs? They are obviously just as twisted as the jihades !!

  15. Jim Aido says

    Jul 31, 2015 at 1:10 am

    How do you explain the while complexion of Arabs while the “real” bedoins are are dark skinned/ Any connection between invasion of Europe & white slavery? Are there any scholarly articles on this. I guess it would be pretty easy to prove with genetic evidence.

  16. Baucent says

    Jul 31, 2015 at 1:32 am

    You are back on your fantasy trip;

    “and westerners are salivating over Yazidi women and want them to marry out just like ISIS. Like the German boys who drool over Yazidi women except they can’t get past their fathers and brothers.”

    Where is the evidence of German boys drooling over Yazidi women, or missionaries trying to convert them? All figments of a sick mind without a coherent argument.

    • shams78 says

      Jul 31, 2015 at 9:29 am

      I posted links about proselytizing on the state department article commenfs and go look up the case of Yazidi honor killing in Germany against the girl with a German boyfriend. And statistics of the (majority male) Yazidi refugees in Germany. They view European Christian boys as a threat to their girls.

      • voegelinian says

        Jul 31, 2015 at 12:35 pm

        Yes; Yazidis have absorbed many of the pathologies of Islam — they are one of the outlier derivations from the disease of Islam among others (e.g., Bahai, Ismaili, Ahmadi, Sikhs, Druze, Alawite, etc. — I don’t count Kurds because they already are diseased Sunnis). Rather than deflect from the problem of Islam, as shams hopes, it only reinforces that problem.

  17. Frank Courtney says

    Jul 31, 2015 at 7:06 am

    Could someone kindly give me published evidence of outrage of Western feminists over Muslim violent misogyny. Because I can’t find any.

    • Frank says

      Jul 31, 2015 at 8:15 am

      Simple! There isn’t any!

      • Frank Courtney says

        Jul 31, 2015 at 9:47 am

        As I suspected of course. The “sisters” cannot criticize other “victims” or appear to be racist (never mind how many times you tell them Islam is not a race) or “Islamophobic” (usual PC meaningless mantra). They would rather tolerate our girls being raped and brutalized by moslems. Not a peep or a squeak from them either about girls and women taken as sex slaves or about female genital mutilation, forced marriage or “honour killings” (keeping murder within the family). Morally the Feminazis are in the same league as the Islamonazis.

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 31, 2015 at 12:38 pm

          “As I suspected of course. The “sisters” cannot criticize other “victims” or appear to be racist (never mind how many times you tell them Islam is not a race)…”

          Indeed. And yet long-time Jihad Watch reader Angemon (long time, but apparently imperfect absorption rate) scratches his head and asks me for “evidence” for my unremarkably elementary claim that the mainstream PC MC West has racialized the problem of Islam.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 31, 2015 at 1:25 pm

          Voeg, I know you can’t accurately describe reality to save your life, but once again you’re taking something that strengthens what I said about using charges of racism to silence criticism (much like you use the charges of “attacking you” to smear your critics, regardless of their tone, approach or content) and claiming it’s evidence that most Westerners are racists. Goebbels would be proud.

    • Pavelina says

      Aug 1, 2015 at 12:37 am

      The “War against women” that the Democrats rant about is actually taking place in the Muslim countries.
      But the feminists in the U.S. never mention that.

  18. Marty says

    Jul 31, 2015 at 8:24 am

    Of course muslims are racists.
    Mohammedans were the great slave wholesalers in the past, and are still slave
    kidnappers and users today.
    In the “Golden Age” of mohammedan slavery, all black Africans that the arabs retained
    were castrated so as not to “pollute” arab muslim blood.
    Any women retained as sex slaves would have their children murdered at or near
    birth.
    Even today, the mohammedan blacks are essentially second class and used as
    cannon fodder or suicide bombers.
    White converts are usually ugly, dim, losers.
    Black converts are usually very dim, sadistically violent petty criminals

  19. Edward Cline says

    Jul 31, 2015 at 9:08 am

    About the subject of Muslims preferring to rape/own/enslave white women, whether their captives of ISIS or in Europe and Britain, especially blondes (remember Lara Logan’s experience in Cairo?): The ostensible motive for it is to destroy the good for being the good. To despoil beauty. The second aspect of these crimes hasn’t been dwelt on much, which is the fact that these Muslim men consider themselves as unclean and unworthy as a fundamental tenet of Islamic metaphysics, and regard the act of rape as a means to consciously befoul beauty with their own persons. This is another reason why Islam is evil.

  20. Uncle Vladdi says

    Jul 31, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    Literal “Psycho-paths” (Greek for “Thought-Killers”) fear fear AS pain, and so hate thinking in both them selves and in all others. They also hate music and sex, because it induces a loss of control. Thus while Muhammad had to show his sexual strength, he also had to bow to others’ complaints about seeing his wives going potty at night.

    While any other self-respecting warlord would have had the peeping toms executed for spying on his wives at night, Muhammad agreed with the peeper that they should have to cover up at all times, lest they induce lust in “unsuspecting” muslims, and that’s how the whole burka/hijab notion arose, described in Sura 33:59.

  21. dumbledoresarmy says

    Aug 1, 2015 at 8:24 am

    Here’s a classic discussion of some of the spiritual sickness of Islam in the area of sexuality.

    “To Rape an Unveiled Woman”. A symposium conducted by “Front Page” on March 7 2006; interlocutors were Pierre Rehov, Nancy Kobrin, Peter Raddatz and Gudrun Eussner.

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=5347

    One might also reflect on what ex-Muslim Wafa Sultan says in her book “A God Who Hates”…she said, “Allah *hates* women”.

    Another ex-Muslim, Nonie Darwish, in her book on Sharia, “Cruel and Usual Punishment” spends a lot of time discussing the way that the sharia order inculcates contempt for and hatred of women. A woman is c**t; that’s the closest colloquial English translation of the Arab word awrah. Just as f**king is the closest colloquial equivalent of the Arab word nikah, used in the Islamic texts for ‘marriage’…except that *honest* translators would just translate it with the F-word, wherever it occurs, and let the reader draw their own conclusions about the gangsta mindset of those who created the texts…

    • shams78 says

      Aug 1, 2015 at 7:57 pm

      Marriage in Arabic is “Zawaaj” and that is what Arabs use as the word for marriage, Nikaah refers to the sexual intercourse, you should really wash your mouth out with soap after spewing profanity.

  22. shams78 says

    Aug 1, 2015 at 9:52 am

    Vikings and Sephardic Jews sold European women and girls into Arab harems to become concubines.

    Sephardic Jews castrated European boys to sell as eunuchs in Al-Andalus into the Arab harems.

    in israel, various Bedouin trafficking gangs in Sinai cooperate with Jewish israeli mafia to smuggle Eastern European women into israel to become forced prostitutes.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 14, 2015 at 12:36 am

      shams78 has spewed this crap about Vikings and Sephardic Jews before–while offering not a word of criticism about Muslim enslavement and use of sex slaves itself.

      And he has to go back to the dark ages to find examples of Infidels involved even peripherally in such barbarism.

      Meanwhile, his own pious coreligionists are enslaving women *today* on the tenets of Islam and the model of the “Prophet”.

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