“Unfortunately they [the figures] do not show the real extent of the problem. So many crimes are unreported because the perpetrators are often the victim’s own family.”
Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law. In this case, of course, the victim was the murderer’s wife, a victim to the culture of violence and intimidation that such laws help create.
The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”
Until the encouragement Islamic gives to honor killing is acknowledged and confronted, more women will suffer.
“‘Honour crime’: 11,000 UK cases recorded in five years,” BBC, July 9, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
More than 11,000 cases of so-called honour crime were recorded by UK police forces from 2010-14, new figures show.
The Iranian and Kurdish Women’s Rights Organisation, which obtained the data, called for a national strategy for police, courts and schools to follow.
The crimes are usually aimed at women, and can include abductions, beatings and even murders.
Commander Mak Chishty, head of police policy on the issue, said there was now a better understanding of the problem.
So-called honour crimes are acts which have been committed to protect or defend the supposed honour or reputation of a family and community.
‘Crimes unreported’The figures revealed 11,744 incidences of these crimes between 2010 and 2014, consisting of data from 39 out of 52 police forces in the UK. They included forced marriage and female genital mutilation (FGM).
The Metropolitan Police recorded the highest number of incidents at 2,188, followed by West Midlands Police with 1,269 and Bedfordshire Police with 1,106 examples recorded.
South Yorkshire had 1,009 unconfirmed incidents in 2014 alone while Lancashire Police had 1,049.
Diana Nammi, director of the Iranian and Kurdish Women’s Rights Organisation – a charity that provides support to Middle Eastern women living in the UK who are facing “honour” violence – said the figures suggested incidence of the crime remained “consistently high” in the UK and that the issue was “not going away”.
She said: “Unfortunately they [the figures] do not show the real extent of the problem. So many crimes are unreported because the perpetrators are often the victim’s own family.
“We need a national strategy for all agencies – including police forces, courts, and schools – to be trained and to work together to end this problem.”…
Jaladhi says
Human life has no importance to Muslims. They kill at the drop of a hat, even their own! Islam converts human beings into monsters! A monster started this ideology and for 1400 years dead brain Muslims can’t see the monstrosity they call religion!!
jayell says
Well, they say they love death, and they’re so generous that they want to share it with others.
particolor says
Mohammed so loved his Bandits that he gave them the Book of Death ! 🙁
Manuel Paleologus says
I am glad you know Islam for it stands for.
The Byzantine Emperor Manuel 2 Paleologus said perfectly well what Islam is after all.
Just try to Google.
jihad3tracker says
A SUGGESTION PERHAPS TAKING US TO CLEARER THINKING ON CURRENT REALITY —-
FROM NOW ONWARD, USE TWO WORDS TO ACCURATELY DESCRIBE — HONOR KILLINGS — TERRORIST ACTS — CHRISTIAN BEHEADINGS — ISRAEL BESIEGED — GAY HANGINGS — SYRIA GENOCIDE — U.S. JIHAD ATTEMPTS — U.S. JIHAD MURDERS — SUNNI SHIA SLAUGHTER :
HATE CRIMES . . . BLOODTHIRSTY ALLAH’S ONLY PURPOSE ON EARTH, AS WE WITNESS EVERY DAY.
Angemon says
For all the good that did to the victims of the muslim rape gangs…
TheBuffster says
Right, Angemon. The first thing they’ll have to do is acknowledge why the problem is so stubborn – that all of these acts that we hold to be crimes are sanctioned by Sharia law, and that the perpetrators are convinced by their religion that they have a right to them, even a *duty* to do them. While they may have to bow to Kafir law in Kafir lands, their Muslim souls don’t have to agree that the Kafir law is superior to their own. It will only serve to urge them on towards getting Sharia incorporated into the Kafir governments.
The only way to stop crime that is based in a religious belief is to recognize that the religion itself includes laws that are criminal to any civilized mind and to speak bluntly about it. When you forbid religious people to do what they believe their god wants them to do, you more than just insult them just by imposing laws alien to their convictions. So you may as well impose your law and *speak bluntly* about the truth anyway. How can you insult them any more that by making acting on their Sharia laws illegal?
tilda says
Part of the difficulty in developing a national strategy for various agencies — such as police, courts and schools — is that there may be people in those agencies who subscribe to the beliefs that underpin these crimes.
In short, developing an effective national strategy might require a weeding out of certain people from various agencies, which in turn might bring anti-discrimination legislation into play. The Catch 22 of entrenched political correctness and cultural relativism.
clap says
This is one of the reasons they have so many kids, in case they have to kill a few of them to protect their so called “honor”.
kay says
I just put the word out to 20,000 ( or so ) people on 25 online fora.
All those posts link back here, and to the original BBC article and to Religion of Peace.
I also provide 2 book references.
These groups are mostly very quiet, with not much posting, but there is substantial readership over time, as proven by the view counts on my listings.
Here are some of the links to the posts. I started with London/ England first and linked all reposts back to there.
Title: “Islamic honor crimes and killings in the United Kingdom and elsewhere : perspective and BBC report, with background books and references”
From
http://bestofbritish.tribe.net/thread/088b4349-ac6f-4149-b2d3-e0345b300284
Also
http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/fa453e83-b74a-4354-9cf8-eef134910a73
and
http://aussie.tribe.net/thread/6fb1dec6-89aa-4f59-9fda-f27f99c4c336
and so forth. In principle this is an extremely efficient way to reach many people. In practice, this piece may only be read by 1,000 out of “20,000 potential readers”, which is really closer to 10,000 potential readers. Nevertheless, important counter-jihad resources have been provided to many in diverse groups, and Google will also bring in very significant outside readership to my post over time.
The article will remain valuable over the next several years, especially with the resources. So I have built a set of good bridges and helped to solve the last mile problem.
kay says
More detailed references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing
Although honor killings are often associated with the Asian continent, especially the Middle East and South Asia, they occur all over the world.[15][16] In 2000, the United Nations estimated that 5,000 women were victims of honor killings each year.[17] According to BBC, “Women’s advocacy groups, however, suspect that more than 20,000 women are killed worldwide each year.”[18] …Other crimes such as acid attacks, abduction, mutilations, beatings occur; in 2010 the UK police recorded at least 2,823 such crimes.[19]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour_killing_in_Pakistan
A 1999 Amnesty International report drew specific attention to “the failure of the authorities to prevent these killings by investigating and punishing the perpetrators.”[6] According to women’s rights advocates, the concepts of women as property and honour are so deeply entrenched…that the government, for the most part, ignores the daily occurrences of women being killed and maimed by their families.[7]
Over 4,000 cases were reported in Pakistan between 1998 and 2004. Of the victims, almost 2,700 were women…and 3,451 cases came before the courts…Nilofar Bakhtiar, advisor to Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, stated that in 2003, as many as 1,261 women were murdered in honour killings.[14]
Honor Killing Index
From WikiIslam, the online resource on Islam
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Honor_Killing_Index
Honor Killings in Muslim Majority Nations
Honor Killings and Violence in Non-Muslim Nations
Honor Related Violence or Danger to life in Muslim Majority Nations
Example
‘The Hunt’: Yaser Abdel Said
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/08/us/yaser-said-the-hunt-john-walsh/index.html
Wanted in the slayings of his daughters, Amina Said and Sarah Said
Has ties to New York, Texas, Virginia, Canada and Egypt
jayell says
“….1,744 incidences of these crimes between 2010 and 2014, consisting of data from 39 out of 52 police forces in the UK…..The Metropolitan Police recorded the highest number of incidents at 2,188, followed by West Midlands Police with 1,269 and Bedfordshire Police with 1,106 examples recorded….”
So how much is the costing the UK taxpayer? And the total costs up to 2010 and in 2015 so far?
What was the total cost of the 7/7 outrage and are there ongoing costs? And the total associated medical costs of all this lot? Plus the cost of the police and security forces currently thwarting on average one islam-related ‘event’ per day and making a similar number of arrests?
Has anyone been totalling or assessing the costs and future costs of dealing with the all the muslim sex gang atrocities in Rotherham, Oxford, Keighley, Rochdale, Bradford……?
What has been the cost so far dealing with all the islamic idiots going to, or attempting to return from, Syria, etc?
What is the total cost to date of other problems caused by muslims (e.g, everyday ‘greivances’, ‘complaints’, police time used in sorting out problems on the streets caused by muslms in ‘muslim areas’)?
What have been the associated costs to ‘normal’ society of crime that has resulted because resources have been switched to dealing with muslim matters?
What is the cost to date of soring out the Tower Hamlets debacle?
How wonder how many billions of £’s this is adding up to!
Would it not be cheaper to have a national religious census, sort out all the muslims, ban islam and just get shot of the disgusting lot?
Has anyone noted that the terms ‘honour killing’ and ‘honour’ crime’ (two hideous oxymoronic concepts that could not possibly have been concocted by or in realtion to genuine ‘British’ citizens) did not exist in the English language before the arrival of muslims in this part of the world? And if muslims have been responsible for corrupting the English language in this fashion, to what extent have they been responsible for corrupting British culture and life in general?
How can anyone in their right mind POSSIBLY claim that Islam and muslims are in any way any good to anyone?
particolor says
I’m afraid they have just about Shut the Coral Gate now on the Infidel of England !
Good Luck !!
I think our PM here in Oz has all but woken up to the Azzoles? And said every thing but “come out of that Recruitment Building with Your hands up !” 🙂
jayell says
Good on you lot in Oz. You may walk upside down, but you’ve kept your heads screwed on.
Baucent says
“We need a national strategy for all agencies…..to be trained and work together to end this problem.”
Perhaps I can help; It’s called DEPORTATION.
particolor says
To MARS ! :-<
ich says
Remember when soccer hooligans were a problem?
That was the big news over there!
Well England has become soft.
What happened to all the tough guys??!
Everyone is laying down sucking their thumbs it seems.
Always On Watch says
I wonder how many “honor crimes” have been committed and gone unreported here in the United States?
kessler says
Here is the BBC documentary where these figures are from:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02wmp1r
I had to turn it off…in typical bbc style, they resorted to biased reporting. They focused the documentary on a Indian family (Sikh I think) as if honour killings are prominent within this religious group. Nothing about Islam/Muslims. Referencing the fact that 91% of Muslims commit honour killings would obviously be hate speech, so once again bbc buries the core problem in the sand due to political correctness.
Reminds me of the last time I read the newspaper “evening standard”. I was well aware of their leftist bias, but when they published a double spread article dedicated to FGM I almost yelled in anger. The ENTIRE article was about this obscure Christian African tribe – not a word on how girls are suffering in the Muslim world. Not a hint of productive news reporting – just another obscuring of the truth. Sad and madly infuriating.
ICH says
Perhaps any groups that come forth need not be so transparent.
Forget the cool name and facebook page.
Forget the peace mantras apologizing right out of the gate.
Let it be unspoken that the 200 burly Brits hanging
out together are JUST FRIENDS.
That way no one can target you as a hate group.
Be as sneaky as them.
Matthew 10:16
I am sending you out like sheep among wolves.
Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
Its almost like Jesus knew it would happen.
GKP says
It is very tough to believe the Islamic style of working by civilized work, but its true.Honour killing and mass killing of non Muslim is a important part of Islam.Entire world is under threat.The evil religions is existing only of the firm grip of those Muslim who are derivig benefits like able to full fill sexual desire, justify criminal act against non Muslim,enjoying extraction money in the name of “jazia” ,telling lye in the name of “taquiya” and despite operating crime fulfilled by jannat(heaven) with 72 virgins.Islamic system is a curse on this earth.
Matthieu Baudin says
An inflated sense of honour and the expression of unconditional love cannot coexist. This honour reflects a mindset of dominance/submission in familial relationships which is also the dominant tone expressed throughout the Quoran.
Don Foss says
Since it is up to the family to erase the dishonor a girl/woman has brought upon them, simple acid all over the face will do in Pakistan when a man is rebuffed by a female he desires. If he can’t have her, at least no one else will want her. That’s much nicer, eh?