The freedom of speech is very nearly dead in Britain, and so also is free society there. No one dares write anything that might possibly offend the new Muslim overlords, who are ever so easily offended.
“Founding editor of award-winning paper sacked in freedom of speech row,” by Auslan Cramb, Telegraph, July 10, 2015 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):
In a plot line worthy of Scoop, Evelyn Waugh’s satire on journalism, the founding editor of an award-winning Highland paper has been sacked over his defence of freedom of speech.
Brian Wilson, the former Labour MP, has written for the West Highland Free Press for 38 of its 43 years, since founding it with four others in 1972.
The only gap in contributions came when he was a minister in Tony Blair’s government.
He was dismissed for using his weekly column to defend his friend and fellow columnist, the Free Church of Scotland theologian Prof Donald Macleod, after he wrote about the spread of Islam in the UK.
With 62 years of contributions between them, readers could have been forgiven for thinking they were in with the bricks at the paper’s headquqarters [sic] in Broadford on the Isle of Skye.
But in a newspaper sacking possibly without precedent, the weekly paper chose to publish both offending columns before getting rid of both contributors….
In his column on May 22, Prof Macleod wrote that all minorities prefer to keep a low profile.
He added: “Generations of British Muslims have done exactly that, many have made an invaluable contribution to British society, and many are perfectly prepared to listen quietly while Christians ‘witness’ to them.
“But when minorities become majorities, things change… in the event of Islamic dominance in Britain our friendly Muslim shopkeepers will have little option but to march behind the radicals.”
When Mr Wilson learned later that the theologian would no longer be contributing, he used his own column to back him, describing Prof Macleod’s “Footnotes” column as the “most intellectually challenging, erudite and beautifully written column in British journalism”.
He said the article was “leading on to wider questions about Islamic influence within Europe, including implications for democracy and freedom”.
He wrote: “The precedent he quoted was what happened in Algeria between the fourth and seventh centuries, from Augustine to Mohammed, so in raising current issues he was – as ever – taking the long view of history.”
The former MP said not everyone was expected to agree with Prof Macleod, but the established way of expressing dissent was to publish letters.
He went on: “Unfortunately it did not end there and as a result of whatever else transpired, Donald concluded that he should no longer contribute his column.”
Mr Wilson said his own dismissal was “pathetic” and was retribution for his column….
Of course.
Georg says
What a situation we’re in where the set of ideas most fundamentally informative of one’s worldview and behavior are off-limits to criticism. This draconian rule which allowed for and was/is necessary for the plague to spread is adopted as an unforced error by the litany of civilizational retards who’ve found themselves to power by making promises undermining their nominal principles.
Islam, the anti-civilization incarnate metastasizes as do-gooder busybodies signal the juggernaut to satisfy what are only measly personal insecurities.
Who will bear their teeth for our children? Who will fight the friends of our enemy?
Shane says
The gutless liberal dhimmis who run the UK do not want the people informed that they are slowly being taken over by Islamic jihad. The only thing that can prevent the UK from becoming an Islamic Republic is civil war.
Paul says
How true.
Angemon says
As Pamela is fond of pointing out “Truth is the new hate-speech”…
John Goodwin says
Sign the petition UK people: “Set up a Royal Commission into the Values of Islam”
https://www.change.org/p/rt-hon-david-cameron-mp-right-hon-theresa-may-right-hon-michael-gove-mp-set-up-a-royal-commission-into-the-values-of-islam
TheBuffster says
That’s a great petition. I wish I could sign it, but I’m an American in Australia.
ECAW says
Buffster – There’s nothing in the petition that I could see limiting it to British citizens or people living in Britain. Cameron’s refusal to look reality in the eye affects you too, just as Obama’s affects me.
ECAW says
I have just had a look at Examine Islam:
http://examine-islam.org/
It is an excellent new site, informative and with their positions clearly argued.
Here is an interesting post from one of their reccommended sites:
http://www.amilimani.com/the-virus-of-islam-can-it-be-cured/#more-2031
Dinosaur Joe says
Has everyone signed and shared this link via twitter and/or FB? there’s only 659 supporters after 3 weeks or so and the Saudi puppet Cameron won’t even blink at that.
And a big thank you to John Goodwin for bringing this to our attention. I would never have known about it otherwise!
Keith says
I have signed it but I don’t think an investigation will take place no matter how many signatures we get. If by some chance that it does go ahead it will most likely be hosted by some one like Anjem Choudry or the idiot in charge of IS.
After all it would be Islamophobic to have a non muslim investigating Islam.
voegelinian says
More broadly, the West as a whole needs to set up a multi-national conference on the Problem of Islam. Perhaps modeled after the “G8” summits that have been held annually — the “Group of Eight” (used to be 5), “which brought together the heads of the richest industrialized countries: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, the United States and Canada starting in 1976” which beginning in 1997, also included Russia, to discuss matters of geopolitical/economic moment.
Call the new formation ɪ-15, to include France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Denmark, Scandinavia, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Israel, Russia, and Eastern Europe nations (as a bloc).
This should be the first step to take. But of course, there are steps that must be taken before this first step, only because the West with regard to this problem has been running on fumes, for every step forward taking two steps back.
Thus:
Step -1: Prior to Step 1, the Counter-Jihad needs to wake up its own West so that its own West realizes it has to take Step 1…(duh!).
And before that can happen, we need a step before that…
Step -2: Prior to Step Negative , the Counter-Jihad needs to get its shit together. It needs to realize that the most important activity it can engage in involves information & communication in the context of a War of Ideas.
And for this to work, it needs to produce a definitive, digitalized Anti-Islam Manual (which would also be an Anti-PC MC Manual). And by “definitive” I mean that it would be so complete and useful, it would render all other information — that vast profusion of Too Much Information out there that causes the eyes to glaze over — obsolete. .
Speaking of eyes glazing over, the nature of the problem is sufficiently complex that it forces me to articulate a comment so long, with so many moving parts, I fear it loses the attention span of most readers (not to mention the irrational hostility of some of those in the Counter-Jihad who have odd priorities, such as that my manner & style that offputs them becomes more important than the direly urgent content about which I am writing — and about which, one would think, they are primarily concerned).
voegelinian says
“Call the new formation ɪ-15…”
Standing for “Islam-15”, of course. To discuss the problem of Islam, naturally.
voegelinian says
slight correction
“Step -2: Prior to Step Negative ,…”
of course should be:
“Step -2: Prior to Step Negative 1…”
Huck Folder says
I’ve signed it from Canada, with my reasons, but I’m appalled; only 706 signers in four days.
They want/need 100,000 signatures; I think they should get ten million.
But it’s not happening. I think I’ve seen 75,000 for a pro-animal petition,
but for protecting the particular breed of animal ‘homo britainensis’
there seems to be a total disdain.
I’m guessing that change.org is yet another socialist media vehicle.
If airing here and on BareNakedIslam, Campus Watch… doesn’t
create any flow, then it’s yet another BUST.
We shall have to wait until jihadist groups kill 10,000 of their opponents
in presently ‘not yet islamic’ UK or some other countries; or even
thousands of their ‘sinislam’ water-carriers (like blowing up
a Labour Party Convention), before we will see ANY action.
Neil Jennison says
It is so very scary…..freedom of speech is a prerequisite for democracy. How can these morons that govern us allow this to happen?
Have they learned nothing from history?
Fucking morons!
noellsq says
You cannot call a duck a duck in Britain because England is losing its culture ,its history, its identity,all for the sake of a minority that does not want to assimilate but wants the country that took them in,gave them shelter,gave them housing,medical to become like the country they fled. The western countries better realize and look at China,Russia and others who will not take their sh-t.
Betty says
DO YOU HAVE ANY ANIMALS LEFT IN BRITAIN? I KNOW THE MUSLIMS HATE DOGS.
Paul says
Soon dogs will probably be banned lest Muhammadans
are “offended”. The presence of canines will be “racist”.
Sounds crazy now…
tilda says
Consider the possibility that those behind this know exactly what they’re doing.
To say that they “haven’t learned from history” or that they’re “morons” is simply a way of saying that you wouldn’t do it and therefore do not understand how they can do it.
They don’t think the way you do.
I’ve reached a point where I must assume that it is deliberate. (For some reason, that assumption clears a lot of clutter out of the way.)
Dinosaur Joe says
I completely agree, tilda. This does seem deliberate. But why and what are they up to?
That report about the Saudi prince and his £32bn. How many governments can that buy off?
How much has gone on behind the scenes that we don’t know of?
Vivienne Havalant (Leijonhufvud) says
Dinosaur, you’ve hit the nail on the head! How come UK has come out of recession as well as other Euro nations Ireland being a case in point? Saudi money all the way to the bank with money laundering via Hawala dealers. Low interest charges paid straight into Islamic terrorist organizations. As Islam stated some time ago, “we’ll breed out the infidel and destroy the infidel’s banking system – with bribery and corruption.’ Greed is the bottom line and since the OPEC crisis this has been happening. Even HRH Charlie boy consorts with the savages of the deserts.
RonaldB says
This is to Dinosaur Joe:
” This does seem deliberate. But why and what are they up to?”
With no disrespect, I say this is the wrong question. It’s not productive to ask the motivations of the politicians and bureaucrats who are importing and protecting Muslims. It’s not productive to ask if Obama is a closet Muslim.
The fact is, we have seen their actions over a long period, and we can assume they will continue to act as they have been acting. That’s all we need to know. Who cares if the political elite of England think they will benefit from the subjugation of Britain to Muslims, or if they are just so intellectually stunted that they have no idea of the difference between left-wing slogans and reality? Who cares if Obama is acting from secret Muslim Brotherhood directives or simply from a general commitment to Communist dogma?
Their actions have been consistent and are completely predictable. Their thoughts are irrelevant.
The first principle is that the government is now the enemy of the people and will undermine them at every opportunity, while maintaining itself in power. The only way to influence the government is through local groups and organizing to massively influence the vote. Logic and reasoning will have no effect on leaders, although it is vital for organizing a rational electorate.
The second principle is that there is a lot of information available, but not through the mainstream media, which is actually a variant of the entertainment industry. The real journalists are where they always have been: crawling in the mud to satisfy their own curiosity and to shock and horrify their followers with real facts. The best journalists adhere to truth, even if they have a strong ideological agenda. The ideologues who bend reality to their viewpoint are best avoided, regardless of orientation.
The highly-paid, coiffured broadcasters you see on the news are simply entertainers.
In a nutshell, we’re on our own. We have a fighting chance, but not if we rely on unreliable people. The real heroes are the people who insist on exercising and expanding the freedom of speech. Once you do away with the freedom to speak, to offend, to make errors: you lose your maneuvering room entirely. The Nazis, the holocaust deniers, the Communists, the Islamists: all must have the right to speak and argue. Once you concede the right of any official to define and censor: you sign the warrant of your own suppression and demise.
voegelinian says
Yes, conspiracy theories do clear away a lot of clutter — but ironically, from the other end, so to speak, they force the theorist to generate new clutter, to account for all data that renders the theory implausible or outlandish. The conspiracy theorist thus is merely trading one clutter for another clutter; but psychologically, it makes a world of difference, for the clutter he is freeing himself from feels imposed upon him by forces beyond his control which frustrate and alienate him, while the clutter he turns to, which he begins to delve into more and more, gives him a sense of taking back control of those forces toying with his life and with the lives of his fellow humans. The mere activity of the obsession with the details and the feverish dot-connection involved in pursuing and cultivating the conspiracy theory provides a feeling of power restored to the haplessly impotent pawn of larger forces felt to be sinister and nefarious.
Tequila Not Taqiyya says
Unbelievable! To use the WWII analogy, you get fired for talking about the threat of Naziism and yet the Nazis are able to promote Naziism all they want and write a million articles about it. IN OUR COUNTRY, not Germany.
Those Westerners taking money to promote Islam and stifle criticism of it should hang their heads in shame.
Erlwilliam says
How far can your stretch a long length of rubber till something gives from the tension that is now placed upon the minds and lives of the indigenous white majority who are now asked … oops no demanded to bow very lowly to the MECCA of political correctness awash with the … we must cover the truth in the way of freedom of speech . Do the British really was to educate themselves to be fools to the point of self destruction Mr David Cameron, Boris Johnston, Tony Blair and the rest of self tarred and feather political elite…. No we are not laughing from a far off so called gentlemen …
yes you will all be remembered for the wrong reasons and held in contempt if after the country has finally released the tension that has accumulated in the lives of the British indigenous and freedom loving people with a massive civil war
Charli Main says
Its not just the ” white indigenous majority ” that are subject to the Muslim plans for the Islamisation of Britain.
All non Muslims, living in Britain, regardless of their skin colour and ethnic origins are subject to the plans of Britain´s new Muslims masters.
A word to all the Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists currently sitting on the fence, instead of joining the war against the Muslim invaders—-Your turn is coming, Islam hasn´t forgotten you !!!!!!
voegelinian says
Yes, throughout history, over the course of the last 1,400 years, the worst victims of Islam have been the non-whites of the (relatively recently named) Third World — if only because Muslims by and large were unable to penetrate the tegument of the West (though they did take giant gouges out of her left flank, Iberia, then her right flank, Byzantium).
It has only been approximately half a century since the West has disastrously opened wide its gates to allow millions of Trojan Camels and their clutter & claptrap of caravan luggage to come in and settle deeply with the Enemy Camp (the Dar al-Harb — i.e., the vanguard of the free world, the West). And paradoxically and perversely, this disastrous reversal of attitude & policy has only accelerated post-911, rater than slowed down, as it would have, were the West in its right mind.
Stuart Smith says
Brian Wilson, the former Labour MP, is a freedom hating maggot, so he is used to stopping people being heard, so a bit of the medicine the other way, he has bowed to the muslim community for years, so he tries to speak out? and then, too late Brian. wanker.
RonaldB says
Stuart Smith says:
“Brian Wilson, the former Labour MP, is a freedom hating maggot”
Very interesting and unique perspective, Stuart. As usual, with a bombshell like that, you need to provide a bit more documentation, perhaps some links and quotations. What we see here is that Brian Wilson was sacked for defending a critic of Islam. With all due respect, that makes up for a lot of past mistakes.
jayell says
“Generations of British Muslims have…….made an invaluable contribution to British society, and many are perfectly prepared to listen quietly while Christians ‘witness’ to them.
If we’re talking about ‘generations of muslims’ then (a) we’re NOT talking about very many ‘generations of muslims’ (2 or 3 generations perhaps where they would represent about 0.5 – 1% of the total population) and that in any case thy’ve only been extimated at representing about 4%-5% of the total population, and (b) since muslims have a reputation of NOT being particularly high achievers, and in fact (according to fairly recent official figures) are currently estimated at being 62.5% economically unproductive within the population, and (c) since Muslims do NOT as a rule originate from cultures that have reputations for being historically more advanced or productive than the UK one, then it would be very, very unlikely that they could have made much of a ‘significant’ contribution to British society at all, and patently absurd to suggest that their contribution could have been in any way ‘invaluable’. (By ‘invaluable’ I assume we would mean that a contribution that is demonstrably considerably above average in any established area of British life, or a contribution that introduces a new constructive dimension to British life, of benefit to all citizens, and that is effectively unique to these people; Looking at their track record, which is neither long nor in any way distinguished for ‘good’ reasons, I cannot see how that can possibly be true of UK muslims)
Now, if we’re going to single out a ‘non-indigenous’ ethnic group within the population that has in any way fulfilled my criteria (in parenthesis above) of making an ‘invaluable contribution to British life’ it would have to be our Jewish friends, who would also qualify as the one ‘global minority’ group to have demonstably made an invaluable contribution to mankind, not just the British. Just look at the list of GENUINE Nobel Prize winners! How many Jewish people? How many muslims? And here’s the irony of this farcical situation. The very group that we can successfully argue as to have made the ‘invaluable contribution over generations’ in the UK is the very group that is currently being abhominably harassed and persecuted and almost driven out by this other group – the muslims – about which all this absurdly specious claims are being made.
What I want to know is – why are muslims being given this ‘honoured’ treatment, based (as far as I can make out) on a catalogue of utterly fanciful and quite unsubstantiated lies? And exactly who is behind this farcical charade? And why are we supposed to tolerate it?
jayell says
Sorry, I forgot the “listen quietly while Christians ‘witness’ to them” bit. Now, that is just out and out lies.
1. Christians in the UK don’t seem to be doing much ‘witnessing’ to anyone these days, since they seem if anything to be being set up as the ‘Aunt Sallies’ of society; if anything, they are doing more ‘apologising’ than ‘witnessing’.
2. If ever a Christian has actually ‘witnessed’ to a muslim it has usually ended up with the habitual muslim whingeing in the press and in the courts, with the christian losing his/her job, or whatever. So much for ‘quietly listening’! That’s a total fabrication!
3. If there has been much ‘witnessing’ going on, it’s been by the muslims themselves who we all know are at it in schools, universities and prisons (where they seem to be making most of their ‘invaluable contribution to British life’ by forming a proportion of the prison population nearly four times their proportion of the general population). And how is it that they apparently can crow about all the converts to their ‘faith’ unless they are not themselves ‘witnessing’?
Lu says
“And exactly who is behind this farcical charade? ”
Well – maybe not “who” but “what” – it’s got to be the only thing I can think of – MONEY. Follow the money … it can’t be just multi-culti and PC naivete; it has to be something else and tangible. Money (involved in a multitude of ways) is a very plausible explanation.
jayell says
‘Oil money’, I presume. So ‘they’ (i.e., those in the UK currently with the political/economic clout) want to sell us down the river for a bit of short-term gain, for defence contracts if not the filthy black lucre? All short-term gain, because the oil’s going to run out and you can’t guarantee you’re going to get the business, no matter how much you kowtow or cringe. Well, I wouldn’t give the time of day to our ‘friends from middle eastern climes’ (thousands of years sitting on top of fortune in the ground, yet all they could do was play with their camels), but at least they (unusually) appear to have had the sense to buy up the United Kingdom (amongst other places) as a hedge against economic disaster for the day when their only source of income dries up (let’s face it, on the evidence so far, they don’t seem to have been much good for anything else).
Right, well I, and what I am supposed to stand for, am NOT ‘up for sale’, nor is anybody else in the UK, and since ‘those who think they must be obeyed’ don’t actually OWN the place or anyone in it, they’ve absolutely NO business whatever assuming that they have any ‘rights of disposal’. So who’s going to tell these arrogant, greedy, brainless, presumptious, ignorant, unprincipled gasbags where they get off?
By the way, pathalogical ‘short-termism’ seems to have become a national disease in the UK, certainly since WW2. We (i.e., the self-styled ruling ‘political elite’) are decimating our defence capability like there’s no tomorrow, and we threw away our coal industry and manufacturing base largely because of short-term political expediency. In the transport sector ‘we’ destroyed a lot of our railway infrastructure also for short-term reasons (including a rail link right up the middle of England built which was built to the larger continental loading gauge, just right for a high-speed link) and now the press is going into hysterics celebrating the introduction into London of a non-polluting electric bus from China, when London already had the biggest network of electric buses in the world until 1962, when ‘we’ threw it away! And now we throw away just about everything else that the UK was supposed to stand for.
Mr. Spencer shouldn’t bother himself printing stories about the idiotic goings-on in these small offshore European islands just like he shouldn’t get himself inot a state about nincompoops here stopping him coming to tell evertone how it is; because if global warming has its way the sea level will rise and put them all out of their misery, thank God. Or Allah. (Probably the latter).
kinley says
Dear Lu
About 2 or 3 decades ago London aspired to become the world’s centers for Islamic finance, where middle east oil money would flow through. BIG PROFITS, TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS, POUNDS, EUROS, etc. This happened, but not without social, cultural, and religous ramifications to the UK.
RonaldB says
jayell,
You bring up the point that British Muslims are falsely described as having contributed to British society and prosperity, such as it is.
That fact is attributable to an inherent flaw in a republican form of government which gives a disproportionate influence to a small, cohesive, philosophically-united group. Muslims form multiple Muslim local and national groups. They badger politicians and news-entertainers. So, they achieve influence entirely out of proportion to their actual numbers.
Once a politician decides to court any group, he will lie shamelessly to keep the group in his camp. Thus, you have the spectacle of Obama claiming that Muslims were part of the history and culture of the US.
My point is that politicians are whores: and in a republican form of government, the truly independent thinkers do not get elected. It’s one of those cases where freedom is contrasted with security: you either have a non-representative government, or you have the government you deserve.
I believe that as a government evolves, the bureaucrats and paper-pushers evolve ways of making the decision-making more complex, more obscure, and more divorced from consequences to the bureaucrat, so following and influencing the government is literally a full-time job.
jayell says
No, Ronald B, I think you’ll find it’s just a load of fanciful bullsh*t dreamed up by the lefty, multi-culti establishment merchants because someone told them that they’ve got to try to brainwash the plebs with this rubbish to counteract all the REAL news coming in – which the same people tried to suppress by either keeping it right out of the national press or burying it in minimal column inches in the middle pages. The same people (who also have a handle on the BBC and the police, which we aLL now know are both bent as £9 notes) organised the infamous witch hunts against famous celebrities, designed to act as a smoke screen to divert attention from, and minimise the impact of, all the muslim paedophile grooming gang news when they couldn’t brush it under the carpet or keep the lid on it any more. (I was predicting well in advance that they would try THAT one on our own squeaky-clean Christian Cliff Richard when they needed a high-profile fall guy, and – lo and behold, dead on cue – they went for it, BBC, Police, Hollywood helicopters, the lot, when the Rotherham genie got out of its bottle!). The thing is that even the Church of England is in on the act now – welI I mean, they’ve got to propagate the Gospel according to HM Government et al (including Common Purpose) haven’t they? People like Cliff Richard are just an embarrassment with all this Jesus Christ stuff – better cosy up to Mohammed, because all his chums have got the OIL!! and the MONEY!!!
voegelinian says
…then it would be very, very unlikely that they could have made much of a ‘significant’ contribution to British society at all, and patently absurd to suggest that their contribution could have been in any way ‘invaluable’.
Ah, but it depends on how you measure “significant contribution”. We are talking about Politically Correct Multi-Culturalists here — PC MCs (both the ones that reign, the Dastardly Elites, as well as the public at large, probably a slim majority of whom remains affected with PC MC). As such, perhaps the most important value they anxiously seek to cultivate is the reassurance that they are not “bigoted” but are rather “open-minded” and “tolerant”. Thus, the spectacle & situation of Muslims streaming in, and the PC MCs accepting & embracing them, is itself precisely the contribution! It provides the PC MCs with the ongoing satisfaction of their ethical narcissism. By accepting & embracing all these Muslims, the PC MCs can feel good about themselves, and pat themselves on the back for not being “bigoted”.
This anxious reassurance becomes doubly important in our present situation of an ongoing metastasis of Muslim mischief, mendacity & mayhem; for deep down in their semi-concious, the PC MCs know there is something horribly wrong, and it is a disastrous train wreck horribly coming down the pike, and as such, it means we must buckle up our shoes, tighten our cravats, and take seriously critical view of the Muslims in our midst. But oh no! — this means we must now think unaccpetable thoughts, thought crimes of bigotry! Thoughts that are suspicious and uncharitable towards the precious Brown People in our midst, the Muslims! Etc… (With my “Brown People” reference, I am here channeling the thought process, if it can be dignified by that term, of the PC MCs — so Angemon and Phillip Jihadski can lower their water pistols before they go off half-cccked and accuse me of “racism” or “Nazism” — speaking of residues of PC MC…)
jayell says
“Ah, but it depends on how you measure “significant contribution… (etc)”…” You’re being much too clever, Voegelinian. This lot haven’t even bothered to observe or ‘measure’ anything. You notice they don’t even begin to give us a clue what this incredibly “significant contribution” really is because if they did, and were honest, the information would look so pathetically INSIGNIFICANT as to show up the whole exercise for what it really is – an attempt public opinion con-trick. Or if they fabricated ‘facts’ or simply over-hyped what material they have in order to give their assertion some credibility, it would be seen through sooner rather than later and they’d soon be shot down in flames. No, “Generations of British Muslims have…….made an invaluable contribution to British society” is a convenient stand-alone, knee-jerk, bland PC buzz-phrase that one can throw in somewhere near the beginning of one’s little diatribe in order to create some kind of ‘initial instant dignifying effect’ on one’s subsequent material so as to render it credible; that is, until the more discerning in one’s audience have had the time to think back analytically and realise that the opening premise was a load of specious clap-trap. By which time, however, you’ve probably managed to brainwash the majority. It’s a bit like applying verbal narcotic anaesthesia before injecting intellectual toxins into the mind. Probably works with most people most of the time. Hey, I could be a politician!!!!
Baucent says
“But when minorities become majorities, things change… in the event of Islamic dominance in Britain our friendly Muslim shopkeepers will have little option but to march behind the radicals.”
A very good point Professor McLeod.
mortimer says
Prof Macleod is literally correct when he writes: “in the event of Islamic dominance in Britain our friendly Muslim shopkeepers will have little option but to march behind the radicals.”
There are no examples of Muslim countries where there is full freedom of expression.
So Scots and English readers, are you willing to stand and do nothing while the lights are put out all over Britain?
Yaffle says
Anyone who knows that part of the world knows there are virtually no Muslims, or any other ethnic minorities, for miles around. I doubt a single Muslim was even aware or either Prof Macleod’s original column or of Wilson’s defence of it. I bet officialdom didn’t notice it either.
Instead, as the “employee owners” of the newspaper are being so tight-lipped – compounding their shame IMO – we can only assume that this was an act of voluntary self-abasement (made after they’d published the “offending” columns!)
So much for modern British journalism. And journalists.
wallace says
I agree Yaffle being aquainted with this neck of the woods Muzzies are indeed thin on the ground, there are however vast swarms of voracious Scottish midgies waiting in ranks like angels that will have the Muslimas committing suicide en-masse when they get inside their burkhas, very nasty in beards as well. West Highland Free Press ? not so much , i would not be at all surprised if the Muslim infitrated S.N.P had a hand in their dismissal.
Yokel says
Does anyone have links to the two offending columns? I have spent a while hunting through whfp.com and can’t seem to find them.
RonaldB says
“So much for modern British journalism. And journalists.”
Let me make a point I have made elsewhere:
The mainstream journalists are not journalists, but entertainers. You can rage about it, but it remains a fact.
The real journalists are writing on blogs like Jihad Watch and numerous others, propagating a point of view and digging in the mud for little or no pay. Once a journalists subverts facts to ideology, it’s time to drop him. Facts are facts, whether they support your point of view or not.
ECAW says
He wrote: “The precedent he quoted was what happened in Algeria between the fourth and seventh centuries, from Augustine to Mohammed, so in raising current issues he was – as ever – taking the long view of history.”
Can someone explain where this bit fits in? If the issue is the increasingly domineering face that Islam presents with increasing numbers, shouldn’t he be talking about the centuries after rather than before Mohammed?
voegelinian says
Perhaps he means to draw a comparison between a thriving Christian civilization from the 4th century to the mid-7th, and the disastrous intrusion of Muslims (into the entire north African region, eventually to the Iberian peninsula) beginning shortly before the mid-7th century. It’s not really an analogous parallel, however, since the Muslim expansion in the 7th century was by means of frank conventional (albeit terrorizing tactics) military invasion; whereas what’s happening in the UK (and most of the West) now is an invasion by a variety of means that do not, obviously, including frank military invasion. Indeed, it is this tendency on the part of the West to think that a war can only involve the kind of frank military invasions that, for example, Hitler perpetrated, that is one factor in the ongoing myopia to this world war being waged under their noses. The other crucial factor is Western White Guilt/Reverse Racism.
Thus, the PC MC West (let us say a stalwart 5-star general, played by the gap-toothed mustachioed Terry Thomas) scans the horizon for signs of a possible world war invasion:
“What do you see, sir?”
“Hmmm, I’ll tell you what I don’t see, Corporal Spivens: I don’t see any frank conventional armies mobilizing on our borders…”
“Quite right, sir.”
“And — I don’t see any white Western Christian racist demagogue leading them…”
“Indeed, sir. No armies led by any white bigots on the immediate horizon.”
[Gen. Terry-Thomas collapses his telescope with a snap] “Right! Nothing to see here! We can pack up and go home, Corporal Spivens!”
“Yes, sir.”
“Oh, and make sure we keep an eye on our white racist homegrown hooligans… you never know what kind of infernal, seditious backlash may be brewing among those unwashed sorts…”
“Yes, sir.”
ECAW says
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=terry+thomas&biw=1024&bih=635&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI-4X-ivzUxgIVwj0UCh0DaQkV
Byy the way, from another post “ethical narcissism” – spot on!
ECAW says
This is the one I meant:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=terry+thomas&biw=1024&bih=635&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI-4X-ivzUxgIVwj0UCh0DaQkV#imgrc=u1zKaGj0btx2HM%3A
ECAW says
No, still didn’t work. I meant the picture with him in a feathered hat, but the one of him holding a gun to his own head would illustrate the point as well.
voegelinian says
Thanks! How about this one:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00177/t2-terry-thomas-898_177297c.jpg
Dinosaur Joe says
Here’s the editor’s email.
editor@whfp.co.uk
I just sent an email to vent my displeasure.
Please feel free to do likewise.
Yaffle says
Done. Of course they’ll probably congratulate themselves on provoking “islamophobic” “bigots”
pongidae rex says
The self condemnation of Western civilization and ethnic Europeans under politically correct multicultural magical thinking is reaching the level of a mass social psychosis. It may prove fatal to Western civilization as a tidal wave of Muslims and people with anti-Western ideologies wash up on European shores in vast and ever increasing numbers. None of those people are going home and few of them are employable in the unlikely event they might choose to work. We are witness to the collapse of a civilization that endured for over 1000 years.
ich says
REVOULUTION ?
One is needed huge.
Either the daily reported carnage is made up by “THE WEST”
or it is in fact happening.
Because thats the latest BS I keep hearing.
These stories are ALL made up. LOL
IF WE UNITE AND STAND PROUD……Islam would be afraid.
They cant and wont fight face to face.
And ya another one I heard is they are all trained in martial arts. LOL
OK BRING IT !!
BUT….right now. Seems we are losing 🙁
We ignore the biggest of problems and concentrate on nonsense.
Speaking of…isnt “Caitlynn Jenner” beautiful ?
“She sure is …blah blah blah “
ich says
@pongidae
great point-mass psychosis
I believe thats happened many times in history
anyone care to expand on that ??
voegelinian says
What’s going on in the modern PC MC West I think is unprecedented in all world history. No other culture or civilization in history has cultivated the amount of handwringing, anxious self-criticism, coupled with adoration & respect of the Other, as has the modern West. Our self-criticism/white guilt/cultural shame we pursue industiously — in academe, public school curricula, news media, information punditry, popular culture (TV shows, movie fare, literature, even songs), and politics.
As I keep noting (to little avail, apparently), the degree to which the PC MC neurosis has penetrated the hearts & minds of the Western societies may be measured by how much it has been able to pop up here and there even within the Counter-Jihad. Not to mention in various conservative communities: I can’t tell you how many times I have been attacked or otherwise censured in conservative online forums over the years, when I bring up the problem of Islam too close for comfort among those otherwise stalwart conservatives who hate Obama, hate Hillary, stand for guns, are pro-life — the whole nine yards. But when the problem of Islam is brought up in a robust way (as opposed to the mealy-mouthed Tiny Minority of Extremists way), they begin to behave like Leftists. Quite a surreal phenomenon. It indicates to me that PC MC is so pervasive, psychologically and culturally as a worldview, it has seeped into the hearts and minds of people who otherwise pat themselves on the back for not being “like those Lefty loonies”.
Matthieu Baudin says
These are dark days for dissent from mainstream attitudes. In this case we have a left of centre man who has served his country in Parliament and brought to his column a well tempered and reasoned case for examining the changing influence of Islam in British and European Society. Now he has been figuratively beheaded, lost his audience and will realise in a few weeks time how his career as a public thinker and leader has been destroyed. Most of the contributors to Jihad Watch appear to be conservative, perhaps centre left politically and it would be very rewarding if some of the discarded anti Jihad voices of the centre left could continue to be heard via this site.
Matthieu Baudin says
Sorry, correction to above, it should read “… Most of the contributors to Jihad Watch appear to be conservative, perhaps CENTRE RIGHT POLITICALLY and it would be very rewarding if some of the discarded anti Jihad voices of the centre left could continue to be heard via this site.”
apologies for the error, M.B.
RonaldB says
Matthieu Baudin says:
“Most of the contributors to Jihad Watch appear to be conservative, perhaps CENTRE RIGHT POLITICALLY”
It’s a heterogeneous readership, with mostly conservative and religious, but not all by any means.
If you have a left or center point of view, and are anti-Islamic, by all means make a contribution. You may get criticized or argued with: so what? Make your best case and don’t take it personally if someone gets carried away. The whole point of free discussion is your views may not be accepted, but you have the right to express them.
Martin says
Free Speech here in UK is not allowed as it may upset someone. I have been banned many times for saying things about the religion of peace when person’s say “it is peaceful” when the truth shows it is not.
I feel sad but when you say anything about the religion of peace. You can be charged by our police for breaching the peace and goes on your record for life.
One day we may have to decide to stand and fight like century’s ago until then I can only voice my views and point out to others when they hide the truth about the religion of peace.
Yokel says
“One day we may have to decide to stand and fight “
One daySoon wemaywill have to decide to stand and fightThere, FTFY
Don Foss says
I have lost respect for the Brits. They will die off as a country. Pussies unwilling to fight for themselves do not deserve to live. Their only hope is that America comes in to save them when the time comes.
noellsq says
America is becoming like Britian but slower especially with the POTUS they have today. Just look how they are negotiating with Iran. The animals have left their cages and will destroy themselves and the world.
fred says
It looks increasingly like the Brits are too stupid to defend themselves and their traditional freedoms from the contemporary threats they now face. Too bad the courage they showed vs. fascism in 1940 is no where to be seen at the moment. Its an object lesson on the real cost of the indiscriminate importation cheap labor.
Albine says
When people never experience oppression or lack of freedom they don’t understand and this is the real problem about modern Britain.
Derek Blow says
No surprise really. The vast majority of Scots vote for political parties on the left that despise debate and silence any opinion that is not in keeping with their socialist ideals. They are the enablers of jihad and fomenters of the ‘islam is the religion of peace’ nonsense.They are cultural self loathers. The only thing they despise more than themselves is the English.
duh_swami says
Free speech is the worst possible thing for humanity. It causes all kinds of disruption and chaos…If you have seen the old movie, ‘Metropolis’, you can see how society should model itself, everyone is the same, everyone dresses the same, eat the same, think the same… everyone marches in a straight line to the work assignment and back, and are forced to watch Bill O’Reilly, Alan Colmes reruns and Marie Harf commentary on jobs, before going to bed. It’s social order…Free speech completely wrecks that
noellsq says
You are either an idiot,a muslim or a leftist who hates everything and doesn’t want to think for oneself.
ECAW says
duh-swami is speaking ironically.
George Orwell says
I am working on a sequel, Animal Forest, as coded analogies are more difficult to censor… will the prey comprehend it, in time?
underbed cat says
P…B..’s will be “right” on the story……and JW will get another contributor. Strike silence into the heart of the informed, wonder who influenced those set of circumstances.
rcourtemanche says
Another coward failing to support free speech and his staff as well as being a contributor to Islamism.
Uncle Vladdi says
We will eventually have to use military force to invade Britain to oust and hang the traitors, evict the muslims infesting it, and to restore order. Same goes for Sweden.
And as for the lost cause of France, I recommend using a few neutron bombs.
ECAW says
Who’s we – America? Don’t kid yourself. You’re in at least a bad way as Britain, and you’ve only got a fraction of the proportion of Muslims that we have.
Where is your political party calling for an end to Muslim immigration:
https://ecawblog.wordpress.com/liberty-gb/
TheDane says
I agree with you! There is no turning back now. There is no solution other than to try and correct our present politicians – and the EU’s – huge faults! There can be no ‘dialogu’ and babbling on and on to get out of this mire. There remains two solutions: deportations, or extreme violence to stop the constant threat we Europeans are living under, thanks to our new ‘co-citizens’ that have been imposed on us!
Moist Von Lipwig says
Brian Wilson is a keen defender of the Communist regime in Cuba.
He is a strong opponent of free speech.
TheDane says
I Wonder what Churchill would think of his country nowadays, if he was alive? The UK has become islamized. Even the airports are hideous, and you have to undergo extreme whisks to get past the control. But airports have many moslem prayer rooms, to make sure that the moslem bastards can worship their Devil-god before take-off. I dislike the UK more and more.
ECAW says
Things are better in Denmark? In that case Nicoai Sennels has been misleading us.