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Canada: Muslim beats his wife in front of cops, says she is his “property”

Aug 16, 2015 8:34 pm By Robert Spencer

beaten woman“The family is very strong in the Islamic religion…”

“Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for Allah’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them.” (Qur’an 4:34)

Muhammad’s example is normative for Muslims, since he is an “excellent example of conduct” (Qur’an 33:21) — and according to a canonical hadith, Muhammad’s favorite wife, his child bride Aisha, reports that Muhammad struck her. Once he went out at night after he thought she was asleep, and she followed him surreptitiously. Muhammad saw her, and, as Aisha recounts: “He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?” (Sahih Muslim 2127) Aisha herself said it: “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women.” (Sahih Bukhari 7.72.715)

The Qur’an commentary Ruhul Ma’ani reflects mainstream Muslim understandings of this verse when it gives four reasons that a man may beat his wife: “if she refuses to beautify herself for him,” if she refuses sex when he asks for it, if she refuses to pray or perform ritual ablutions, and “if she goes out of the house without a valid excuse.”

“Beat wife in front of cops,” by Dean Pritchard, Winnipeg Sun, August 14, 2015 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):

A Winnipeg man who allegedly assaulted his wife in front of police and told an officer he could do what he wants with “his property” is now fighting a bail order banning him from having any contact with the woman.

“Even if her wish was to have contact with (the accused), the Crown would be strongly opposed to any variation of the bail,” Crown attorney Vuk Mitrovic told court Wednesday.

In the presence of police, the accused “was undeterred in committing an assault on his wife,” Mitrovic said. “The attitude he demonstrated … should cause the court grave concern about the safety and protection of the public.”

The accused, who is not being identified to protect the identity of the alleged victim, was arrested June 24 after police responded to a 911 call from his family’s Lorne Avenue apartment.

The man has filed a motion to remove a bail condition prohibiting him from living with his wife and nine children pending resolution of his charges.

“I have been away from my home and my family (for over a month),” the man told court through an interpreter. “This is a problem according to my faith to be away from my family.”

Court was told the family fled their native Iraq for Syria before arriving in Winnipeg last February. The family suffered persecution from terrorist groups including al-Qaida. While in Syria, one of the man’s children was kidnapped and held for ransom.

“The family is very strong in the Islamic religion and they have very strong cultural beliefs,” said defence lawyer Lincoln Atten. “The family is suffering on a daily basis. At one point, (the accused) was sleeping in a park near the home just to be close to his family.”

Police were called to the man’s home after a report of a 911 hang-up call, Mitrovic told court. The man’s wife, who only speaks Arabic, indicated through hand gestures that he had hit her in the eye.

Police were searching the man’s clothing when his wife kissed one of the officers on the hand, Mitrovic said. The accused then “grabbed her by the throat and violently shoved her.”

Police arrested the man and took him into custody. In an interview with an Arabic-speaking police officer, the man said “he wanted to be locked up in a mental hospital and the key thrown away as he didn’t know what he would do to his wife,” Mitrovic told court.

“He also said he doesn’t agree with Canadian laws and that his wife is his property and he can do what he wants with her,” Mitrovic said….

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  1. albert says

    Aug 16, 2015 at 8:41 pm

    Trow away the keys

    • Lia Wissing says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 5:09 am

      Keep this woman & her children safe. They may yet be an asset to the country. Drop him into a dungeon (though he seems more aware than most muslim men of his madness).

      • ninetyninepct says

        Aug 17, 2015 at 11:56 am

        “The man has filed a motion to remove a bail condition prohibiting him from living with his wife and nine children pending resolution of his charges.”

        This is exactly the kind of primitive violent dangerous muslim animals that PM Harper want to ban or deport from Canada and EXACTLY the breeding factories that trudeau and mulkhair are promising to give thousands of our dollars to every year.

        Nine friggin kids and I bet they get thousands every month in welfare. This makes me puke and it is no wonder we are disgusted with islam and their book of hate called the Koran.

        I am demanding the authorities deport the entire herd including the boar, the sow and all the piglets. In order for the legal system to retain what little respect they have from Canadians, $hit like this MUST be dealt with instantly and harshly. That is the only language islam understands.

        PS: Where is the Human Rights Commission on this? Why haven’t they taken action against this filthy abuser? Are they afraid of “offending” islam? Bull$ht.

        • EYESOPEN says

          Aug 17, 2015 at 2:23 pm

          I cannot help but agree with you “99%”. Even if the male swine were imprisoned that leaves the mother – and NINE children – to be paid for by the Canadian taxpayers. Not f___ right!

        • DP111 says

          Aug 18, 2015 at 10:20 am

          Nine little Jihadis who will grow up to be nine proper Jihadis, all raised Canadian welfare.

          Brilliant.
          .

        • Huck Folder says

          Aug 26, 2015 at 7:46 pm

          “I have been away from my home and my family (for over a month),” the man told court through an interpreter. “This is a problem according to my faith to be away from my family.”
          said Mr Pregnant Hands

        • Huck Folder says

          Aug 27, 2015 at 3:04 am

          Differently stated:

          “General Sir Charles James Napier, the Commander-in-Chief in India from 1849 to 1851 is often noted for a story involving Hindu priests complaining to him about the prohibition of sati by British authorities.

          “Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs.”

  2. Jay Boo says

    Aug 16, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    It is all relative.
    At first glance this seems to be a very, very bad thing to do — and yet when viewed through the lens of university educated intellectual enlightenment it all becomes clear that to criticize Muslims for this behavior is to show Islamophobic cultural bias and insensitivity to Muslims feelings of superiority over their property and reverence to Muhammad who’s example they emulate.

    • Harry says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 2:34 am

      Very funny…like your style 🙂

      • Goodby NewYork says

        Aug 17, 2015 at 4:47 pm

        Most of the university educated intellectual enlightenment types do not understand simple sarcasm.

        I agree with Harry. Jay Boo, I like your style.

  3. Angemon says

    Aug 16, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    “I have been away from my home and my family (for over a month),” the man told court through an interpreter. “This is a problem according to my faith to be away from my family.”

    But beating his family is not a problem, apparently…

    At one point, (the accused) was sleeping in a park near the home just to be close to his family.

    I think that’s called “stalking”…

    He also said he doesn’t agree with Canadian laws and that his wife is his property and he can do what he wants with her

    If you don’t like it, GTFO.

    • Karen says

      Aug 16, 2015 at 10:55 pm

      All excellent points, especially the last.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 2:24 pm

      Right on Angemon!

  4. KrazyKafir says

    Aug 16, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    His NINE children. Future punching bags and beaters,all. What a lovely addition to Canada.

    • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

      Aug 16, 2015 at 9:32 pm

      Yes. Exactly. Yes.

      Think of the desperation of that ‘wife’. She knows this is death for her; but her misery was great enough she decided to pay that price.

      • Zimriel says

        Aug 16, 2015 at 9:49 pm

        This is mentioned in Rifqa Bary’s book, “Hiding in the Light”. Rilvan “Carmel Love” the older bro pulled a knife on his mom because she was slow in getting the evening meal going.

  5. jewdog says

    Aug 16, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    “The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.”
    -Winston Churchill, 1899, from “The River War”

    • annieoakley says

      Aug 16, 2015 at 10:52 pm

      Said in 1899? And yet here we are still playing games with the men of Islam.

      • Mark says

        Aug 17, 2015 at 6:19 am

        You mean, with the ‘less than men’

      • voegelinian says

        Aug 18, 2015 at 4:14 pm

        Something happened in the meantime, from 1899 to now: the advent of the mainstream fashion of Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism: “One step forward, two steps back.”

  6. Joseph says

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:34 pm

    My hat is off to the police that arrested him. You can’t imagine how much restraint they had to use to not enforce their own “justice”.

  7. Doug says

    Aug 16, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    There is lots here to think about. Perhaps the woman will take courage and free herself from this monster and it will be an inspiration for others to do so.

    Nine children? With this kind of breeding demographics will destroy our culture in a very short time. However, they could make themselves useful and start a ball team.

    That he wants to be locked in a mental asylum speaks for itself. Perhaps this can set a precedent and put them all in an asylum. Better yet, ship them back to where they came from.

    • Charli Main says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 1:56 am

      I have long believed that muslim ” refugees” and ” asylum seekers ” should be sent to mega rich Saudi Arabia or to one of the other 60+ muslims countries in the World.
      Muslims should look after and provide for their muslim brothers and sisters.

      • Bikinis not Buras says

        Aug 18, 2015 at 5:03 am

        How can Islam dominate the world if they are confined to their S**t box countries, they are NOT “refugees” or “asylum seekers” they are Muslim colonists out to destroy the world.

    • Lia Wissing says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 5:12 am

      Do read Patrick Buchanan’s ‘Suicide of a Superpower’ re demographic realities.

    • skai says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 11:57 am

      Gugh ” Perhaps the woman will take courage and free herself from this monster ” You are right, but don’t forget that the vast majority of Muslim women know that they can be beaten as per their Quran 4:34 Had this been in Pakistan this women would have been killed Just because this happened in Canada she is safe, Even in the West Muslims have killed their own wives, daughters in ” honour killing ”its not unusual.

    • voegelinian says

      Aug 18, 2015 at 4:16 pm

      “Perhaps the woman will take courage and free herself from this monster and it will be an inspiration for others to do so.”

      Yes, Muslim victims (especially women) of Islam are our potential allies — I mean, they must be, right? They can’t possibly be so deformed by their culture as to have become Stockholm Syndrome co-dependent enablers of the very same monster that is oppressing them — and endangering our societies… right…?

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 18, 2015 at 5:23 pm

        Of course, the barest glance at the JIhad Watch archives shows that all too many Muslimahs are just as vicious as their male coreligionists, and just as eager to wage violent Jihad and to impose Shari’ah law.

        While women are institutionally oppressed under Islam, it would be mistaken to as a result consider them natural Anti-Jihadists.

        I hope this woman and her children *do* leave Islam and become model Canadian citizens–but I would *not* count on it.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 18, 2015 at 5:32 pm

        And it is not, of course, just women–many Muslims, *including the wifebeater in the story above*–have suffered under Islam. Facing persecution from Al-Qaida and having a family member kidnapped–assuming this is true and not just a sob-story to aid Canadian refugee status–did nothing to turn this pious Muslim into a civilized Westerner.

        We see this all the time, in fact. The Shia Hazara in Afghanistan were brutally oppressed by the Taliban, and many assumed that they were ipso facto “moderate”. But after the ousting of the Taliban there the first thing the Hazara petitioned for was legal right to practice Islamic marital rape.

        Few of the Muslim victims of Islam have rejected Islam’s savagery as a result themselves.

  8. Karen says

    Aug 16, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    Apparently he forgot he was supposed to savage her with a small stick or tooth brush. Minor detail; I’m sure the beatings were all meant to protect and honor her, and elevate her to a position of equality with her owner… I mean, husband.

    • dsinc says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 2:25 am

      She kissed the hand of the police officer. That’s a death sentence offense and he will kill her for it when he can.

      • Karen says

        Aug 17, 2015 at 3:50 pm

        This is all reminding me of two instances from long ago when Muslim women tried to reach out to me for help. I just wasn’t smart enough at the time to read between the lines. (Iranian women are very refined and polite). If I’m ever privileged again to help a Muslim women in need, I will not let her down.

        • Mary says

          Aug 17, 2015 at 11:44 pm

          Ministering to these people means giving your life. Probably blowing your budget, likely alienating many of your own friends, and you may need to go into hiding with them.
          When I say giving your life I don’t necessarily mean dying. (Though that is not without the realm of possibility) I meant giving up your privacy, your comfortable life, your spare cash. Many middle eastern families will build another story onto the house when a son gets married. He’ll then have an apartment up there with his wife/wives and children.
          The extended family often eats most meals together.
          If she were to leave, she will need a family. You are it!
          I’m all for this, but don’t imagine it will be easy.

        • voegelinian says

          Aug 18, 2015 at 4:19 pm

          Hey, there are people far more deserving of our time, energy, and compassion: like the Western societies endangered by Muslims; or the innumerable Christians of the Middle East and Africa; as well as Jews; and also Buddhists and Hindus of central and SE Asia. Don’t waste your time on Muslim “victims” just to stroke your own ethical narcissism.

    • skai says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 6:26 pm

      Karen ”Apparently he forgot he was suppose to savage her with a small stick or tooth brush” That may be so in some Hadiths, But in Sura 4:34 it doesn’t say any thing about small stich or tooth brush, it says ” BEST Them ”
      ” I’m sure the beatings were all meant to protect and honour her ” In what way?
      ” and elevate her to a position of equality wither owner……I mean her husband ” In Islam women can NEVER be equal to their husbands. ” WOMEN IN ISLAM Tabari IX:113 ” Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely ,if they abstain they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves ,Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies ” Women have NO equality in Islam .Period

      • Jimbo says

        Aug 17, 2015 at 9:41 pm

        Skai, you totally misses Karen’s sarcasm !! she was joking and only too well knows the perils and evils of islam and what it means to women.

        • skai says

          Aug 18, 2015 at 5:08 pm

          Jimbo. I did understand , but I still wanted to point out about women in Islam. Thanks any way

        • Karen says

          Aug 19, 2015 at 9:56 pm

          Thank you Jimbo, Skai, I appreciate your comments. I always get my feathers ruffled when the phony case is made to Westerners that Dreadful Sharia provides a model for women’s rights. That lie is being repeated over and over….. 🙂

  9. mortimer says

    Aug 16, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    Islamic misogyny should be front and center in the ongoing Canadian federal election.

    The Liberal Party is courting the Muslim vote by resisting Canadian opposition to ISIS.

    • Huck Folder says

      Aug 26, 2015 at 8:00 pm

      mortimer or others:

      In a couple of CBC shots of talking head ‘Shiny Pony’ there were at least two young swarthy ME looking (moslem?) males in his entourage. I tried without success to find those videos online, and that would be only step one. Step two would be: who are they, names, affiliations, ‘flavor’, mosques…

      And step three would be their jobs. They almost looked like bodyguards, looking around at the audience, not at SP. Are they his bodyguards? Are they moslem? Are they ‘protecting’ him or fencing him in? Are they there to see he earns his Qatar or SA retainer, to remind him what will happen if he strays off the script…?

      If anyone has answers I would like to see them posted here.

  10. tilda says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 2:46 am

    “…his wife kissed one of the officers on the hand… ”

    She might not be able to speak the language, but she was thanking the police in the only way that she could; in the only way that she could demonstrate what she was trying to say.

    Keep this man away from this woman.

  11. isabella van der westhuizen says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 4:46 am

    Why is a great country like Canada letting in all these Muslim immigrants
    They will never integrate into western society

    • skai says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 12:07 pm

      Isabella van derwesthuizen ” Why is a great country like Canada letting in all these Muslims immigrants .They will never integrate into western society ” Muslims have NEVER integrated not only in the western society but they have NEVER integrated in any society where ever they have migrated , not in India where they have also ruled over Hindus for centuries . Muslims have forcefully converted Hindus for centuries and they still do in Pakistan and Bangladesh

      • Jimbo says

        Aug 17, 2015 at 9:47 pm

        “Convert hindus”…. more like murder them for their beliefs ! millions murdered in paki and Bangladesh throughout the ages. all for not being a believer. typical of this religion.

        muslims hate polytheists !! with a passion. Hindus and Buddhists are on the top of the list of hate !!

        why ?? probs b/c mohammed hated the meccans who worshiped multiple gods/statues. they dissed him, kicked him out, only for him to exact revenge on Mecca, first thing he did was come and destroy all the other god idols apart from moon god Allah ! i think that’s the real reason.

        • Jay Boo says

          Aug 18, 2015 at 11:03 am

          Muslims hate everyone, even other Muslims.
          The more vulnerable ones are the people they hate the most, while to those with power over them they preach about dialog and tolerance.

  12. Wakeup says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 5:15 am

    Here is the problem and the solution women are victims of islam not the use of ower case upper case could possibly indicate respect. Anyway the solution is a sort of witness protection type program that gets them out of the family an islam. We have to degrade their power it is all about male power abuse and we have to rob them of it. As I have said before support the women but do not trade with support or employ muslims.

    saudi arabia is two years from going bust God bless the Bekken oil fields we are making progress.

  13. Barbie Mackay says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 5:55 am

    I have no compassion for women who choose to live this way.
    She can run away and nobody will recognize her in the burqa she has chosen to wear.

    • Joseph says

      Aug 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm

      There are many factors that go into a situation like this. I would not be so quick to delete compassion for this woman. Some women (and men) break free of their abusers, some don’t. I don’t know this woman’s life history and what she saw in her lifetime therefore I DO have compassion for her AND her children. If she can break free from this monster then maybe some of her friends will also see this and realize that they too can live a life free from abuse. Remember that she was brought up where beatings and rape are the norm. She was never taught that a woman is something to be valued Someone to walk beside her husband, not behind. Someone to work with her husband and not for him. Someone that should be loved as a person has every right to and not owned as a piece of property. Again, I do have compassion for this woman.
      The mind/psyche is a complicated machine and no two are the same. Walk a mile in her shoes and the journey might be much harder than you thought.

  14. ich says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 6:53 am

    this also could be a great way for buddy to have canada take care
    of his nine damn kids !!!

    8 of whom will grow up and be dangerous

  15. abhishek says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 7:24 am

    What a fu**ing dick…..

  16. andrew sapia says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 7:58 am

    The biggest problem is 9 children, who is paying for these 9 children? 20 years (or less) from now those 9 will marry 9 other Muslims and have another 9 each that’s 81, while the average Canadian family will have 1.8 children say about 15 kids from 9 couples. How many of the Muslim families kids will grow up unassimilated to Canadian values. It’s just a matter of time before there is civil war in every western society. The people that have allowed this to happen should be imprisoned or worse. Maybe exiled to some Muslim hell hole.

  17. bill reitzes says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 9:35 am

    Go to any woman’s shelter here in Canada, and they are full of similar cases.
    To give a mos lem an education in western values and laws, is thought to be racist.
    And nothing is being done about this, NOTHING

  18. Richard Hallin says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 11:28 am

    This is a world wide problem, we have the same thing happening here in Australia every day.

  19. Lioness says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    Spread the welcome mat to more islamic refugees who disregard Canadian laws. And they have 9 children! 9 potential jihadis who will grow up to despise Canada and follow their father’s footsteps.

  20. Uncle Vladdi says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 3:39 pm

    So – he doesn’t agree with Canadian laws?

    Perhaps he should move to Quebec (or back to Syria)!

    In Quebec, his muslim rights will soon be fully protected by plustard Jacques Frémont, SOROS – driven president of the Quebec Human Rights (and Zero Responsibilities) Commission.

  21. JerryS says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    Thank God for the misconceived doctrine of multiculturalism. So we can read a repetition of this same tripe that our DA leaders keep ramming down our throats and in our face.

  22. gravenimage says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    Canada: Muslim beats his wife in front of cops, says she is his “property”
    ……………………….

    Mainstream Islam.

    More:

    “I have been away from my home and my family (for over a month),” the man told court through an interpreter. “This is a problem according to my faith to be away from my family.”
    ……………………….

    Who knows what mischief they may get up to if this pious Muslim isn’t there to beat them?

    More:

    Court was told the family fled their native Iraq for Syria before arriving in Winnipeg last February. The family suffered persecution from terrorist groups including al-Qaida. While in Syria, one of the man’s children was kidnapped and held for ransom.
    ……………………….

    Yet more proof–were any needed–that victims of Islam can easily be victimizers in its name, as well. Many well-meaning Infidels assume that such victims are ipso facto opposed to the ugliness of Islam, but they are of course wrong.

    More:

    “The family is very strong in the Islamic religion and they have very strong cultural beliefs,” said defence lawyer Lincoln Atten. “The family is suffering on a daily basis.
    ……………………….

    They are certainly missing the pater familias beating them…

    More:

    At one point, (the accused) was sleeping in a park near the home just to be close to his family.”
    ……………………….

    As noted, this is stalking…

    More:

    Police were called to the man’s home after a report of a 911 hang-up call, Mitrovic told court. The man’s wife, who only speaks Arabic, indicated through hand gestures that he had hit her in the eye.

    Police were searching the man’s clothing when his wife kissed one of the officers on the hand, Mitrovic said. The accused then “grabbed her by the throat and violently shoved her.”
    ……………………….

    Of course he did! She was touching an unrelated male!

    While any sane person would take this to mean “thank you officer for saving my life”, a pious Muslim man sees this as proof of “infidelity”.

    More:

    Police arrested the man and took him into custody. In an interview with an Arabic-speaking police officer, the man said “he wanted to be locked up in a mental hospital and the key thrown away as he didn’t know what he would do to his wife,” Mitrovic told court.
    ……………………….

    Well, Islam does make one insane…

    More:

    “He also said he doesn’t agree with Canadian laws and that his wife is his property and he can do what he wants with her,” Mitrovic said….
    ……………………….

    That’s the problem, isn’t it? The civilized West doesn’t allow the imposition of savage Shari’ah law, so no Muslim can ever abide by our laws.

  23. abad says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 pm

    Maybe Canada should just round up this supersized Muslim fambly on welfare and deport them back to Syria.

  24. jimbo says

    Aug 17, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    whats the problem here !!! its a cultursal thing. muslims beast their wives. no problems !! the dhimmi leftard liberal mediua dont seem to mind. womens rights movement – anything – no **crickets chirping**.

    well at least there is 9 kids. perhaps they might grow up and form a Canadian ice hockey team or similar !! that’d be a bonus you didn’t think about !!

    oh no wait. sport is haram. enjoying life is haram. love & compassion is haram. music is haram. enjoyment is haram. integrating with society particularly your host nation is haram, associating with infidels is haram, friends who are non muslim is haram.

    bleeding off the benefits provided by idiot dhimmi western non-believer society….. NOT haram !! its halal !!

  25. denise says

    Aug 18, 2015 at 1:10 am

    Well there you have it. We are now paying for an Abusive man an abused woman, her 9 children and the legal bills for this disgraceful display of gratitude to Canada and Canadian Law/courts for and by Dad. Mr. Punch himself. Why is he not deported no questions asked. Canada will pay for all this plus all schooling, all medical. Nice and our own people live homeless, starving, something is so very wrong with this picture. Why did they get this gift and not a christian family. after all they are muslim and so was their home country. They are killing christian and jewish families over there, chopping the heads off of Families with dull knives. Now we get to deal with more Islam crap until Canada is like England. If they Love it here so much convert to our ways. This guy has no respect for anything. Send him Back. For get all this expense, she can stay but she and all her kids should leave that Islam crap behind. Islam such an abuse of women eh?

  26. blake says

    Aug 18, 2015 at 10:41 am

    9 fucking children… god damnit

  27. richard courtemanche says

    Aug 18, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    Obviously prime for deportation and without all the legal rambling.

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