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Iraqi priest: “There’s no such thing as moderate Islam…ISIS represents Islam one hundred percent”

Aug 27, 2015 4:15 pm By Robert Spencer

frdouglasalbaziFr. Douglas al-Bazi’s coreligionists in the West, and their leaders among the U.S. Catholic bishops, would be supremely embarrassed if they heard him talking this way. They are sure that Islam is a Religion of Peace, and woe to you if you don’t fall in line behind them. They don’t want to hear about Islamic supremacism or about Muslim persecution of Christians. Instead, they bow and scrape before imams and Muslim leaders who have never lifted a finger to stop Muslim persecution of Christians. They actively work to silence and marginalize those who speak out about this persecution. They consign today’s new martyrs to their fate, sacrificing them on the altar of their fruitless, delusional and self-defeating quest for “dialogue” with Muslims. How many Christians has that “dialogue” prevented from being persecuted or martyred? Why, absolutely none, of course. But the comfortable suburban Church continues on its comfortable suburban way, secure in its illusions and delusions.

One day, however, the truth it has so assiduously endeavored to ignore, deny and suppress will dawn upon it with undeniable and terrifying reality, and maybe some of those bishops will realize how ill they served their people by enforcing and reinforcing their ignorance and complacency.

“‘There’s No Such Thing as Moderate Islam’: An Iraqi Priest Describes the Christian Genocide,” by Matteo Matzuzzi, Il Foglio, August 26, 2015 (translated by Francesca Romana, Rorate Caeli):

Rome. “Please, if there’s anyone who still thinks ISIS doesn’t represent Islam, know that they are wrong. ISIS represents Islam one hundred percent.” Father Douglas al Bazi, an Iraqi Catholic parish priest in Erbil, raised his voice during an intervention at the Meeting in Rimini, with a choice of words – in a provocative way and in hard tones – that few had ventured use so far.

He carries on his own body the scars of the torture he underwent nine years ago, when a band of Jihadists kidnapped him for nine days, keeping him in chains and blindfolds along with a broken nose from being kneed: “For the first four days they didn’t even give me anything to drink. They would walk past me saying ‘Father, do you want some water?’ All day long they would listen to the reading of the Koran to let the neighbours hear what good believers they were.”…

Father Douglas Al Bazi is in charge of two refugee shelters for Christians who survived the advance of the black horde – not far from Ankawa. After the marking of houses with the “n” of the Nazarene plus the Christians displaced on the Nineveh plain, a year ago, “from morning to night we receive thousands of refugees” and the exodus continues. “I’m proud to be an Iraqi, I love my country. But my country is not proud that I’m part of it. What is happening to my people is nothing other than genocide. I beg you: do not call it a conflict. It’s genocide”, said the priest, who doesn’t want to hear anything about “moderate Islam”: “When Islam lives amidst you, the situation might appear acceptable. But when one lives amidst Muslims, everything becomes impossible. I’m not here to instigate you to hate Islam. I was born amid Muslims and I have more friends among them than I have with Christians. But people change and if we go to my country, no-one will be able to distinguish the light from the darkness. There are those who say: “but I have lots of Muslim friends who are very nice”. Yes, certainly! They are nice over here! Over there the situation is very different!”

A situation in which regard the vice-President of the French Conference for Imams also had some tough words to say. Hocine Drouiche, also the Imam of Nimes, intervened last July at the European Parliament: “In the world, Christians are being persecuted, hunted down, deprived of work, imprisoned, tortured and murdered. All means are being used to force them to deny their faith, including the ritual of collective rape, considered in some states a form of penal sanction. Owning a Bible has become a crime, religious worship is prohibited and there has been a return to the times of Masses in the caves and the first martyrs”. And the fault, Drouiche had added in a discourse which had not been highlighted very much by the European media”, is contemporary Islam”, which is much closer “to sectarianism rather than a universal, open religion”.

“I believe in the end they will destroy us”

Father al Bazi’s account is of one who runs the risk of being murdered on the street every day: We never know if coming out of the church we’ll be able to go into it again alive. In Baghdad they had the church explode right in front of me. They shot me on the legs with a AK-47, a type of Kalashnikov, and probably sooner or later they’ll kill me”. Yet his faith is solid: “When they put me in chains, during my kidnapping, they tightened a big padlock on my wrists. On the chain there were ten extra rings, which I used to recite the Rosary. I have never prayed it so earnestly as I did in that situation”. “I – added Father Douglas – don’t implore your help. I’m not frightened just as my people aren’t frightened either. I believe they’ll destroy us in the end. But I also believe that we will have the last word. Jesus told us that we need to carry our own crosses, and that is what we in the Middle East are doing. Yet the most important thing is not the carrying of the cross, but following it. And following it means accepting, challenging and committing oneself right to the very end”.

“We need to have patience and carry the cross each day, but we also must react”, said Father Ibrahim Alsabagh, parish priest in Aleppo, echoing him, and reported how the city is now “divided in tens of parts, each one of them in the hands of a different group of Jihadists. Our Church of St. Francis is sixty metres from the firing line. They have already hit many churches, we don’t know when it will be our turn”. Here is why Father Douglas, at the end of his intervention, launched a warning to the feeble West:

“Wake up! The cancer is at your door. They will destroy you. We, the Christians of the Middle East are the only group that has seen the face of evil: Islam”….

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  1. Ginger says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    The Vatican’s lack of support for persecuted Christians is not just a disgrace; it’s criminal. The dope Pope will only realise when Islam is breaking down his door.

    • Neil Jennison says

      Aug 27, 2015 at 5:35 pm

      Yes. True.

    • Brian says

      Aug 27, 2015 at 11:26 pm

      FALSE:
      The Pope has called for military intervention many many times, even describing the persecution of Christians the third world war…Just because main media outlets do not report this, does NOT mean it is not fact.

      SEE:
      http://tribune.com.pk/story/918279/third-world-war-pope-deplores-genocide-of-christians-in-middle-east/

      • ECAW says

        Aug 28, 2015 at 4:24 am

        But he won’t say who is doing it, will he?

        And it’s not just Islamic State “extremists”.

      • Blitz2b says

        Aug 28, 2015 at 8:51 am

        The ” dope Pope” is right….
        He is still betraying the persecuted Christians by advocating for Islam when he says that the Koran in its authentic reading promotes non violence…. How absurd that the leader of a Church condescends to Islam’s brute force…
        ..

        • Jay Boo says

          Aug 29, 2015 at 8:59 am

          The pope’s favorite song is Misty
          “Play Misty for me, I’m as helpless as a kitten stuck up a tree, Play Misty for me”

          Trailer for Clint Eastwood movie about psycho killer

    • Huck Folder says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 12:43 am

      “…when Islam is breaking down his door.”

      While he’s busy washing, fondling and kissing their feet.

      Fetish? Anyone?

    • patrick walsh says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 2:15 am

      Our titular Pope wants to flood Europe and USA with the curse if Islam but ignores the suffering of Christians if all denominations.

    • karpenter says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 11:40 am

      He’s Already Invited Them In The Door, Remember ??
      Had A Muslim Cleric Into The Vatican To Recite The Inshalla

      • Brian says

        Aug 28, 2015 at 12:01 pm

        Are all of you total dolts without a brain? Just because pope Francis invites some Muslim to the Vatican does NOT mean he condones the persecution and murder of Christians. I have already posted a link to what he ACTUALLY said about Christian persecution and how he has asked MANY times for military intervention and that it is a third world war in the making.

    • Tattymucher says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 9:26 pm

      The Pope can’t say anything. If he did, many more Christians would be killed in retribution. Remember the atrocities which followed the Regensburg address? I’ll remind you, several years ago now, in Germany, Pope Benedict gave a speech wherein he quoted a medieval emperor, I believe it was. Anyway, all this emperor said is that there is ‘nothing new in Islam’. For this, there was a backlash and this must really haunt the Pontiff emeritus to this day.

      Likewise, were Pope Francis to speak out, it would cause more suffering I think. This happened during in the third Reich leading up to and during World War II. The Catholic Church often couldn’t speak out against the Nazis because this would lead to retributions. For example, when the Dutch Catholic bishops spoke out against Nazi occupation the Nazis decided to round up all Catholics of Jewish extraction, including the philosopher nun Edith Stein, who has been canonised a Catholic martyr.

      • ECAW says

        Aug 29, 2015 at 2:49 am

        The mediaeval emperor said a bit more than that:

        “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached”?

        Quite true, of course. But, as you say, it appears to have shut Benedict up on the subject for the rest of his papacy. There was no need for Francis to change his views. At the time the then Cardinal Bergoglio said:

        “Pope Benedict’s statements don’t reflect my own opinions….These statements will serve to destroy in 20 seconds the careful construction of a relationship with Islam that Pope John Paul II built over the last twenty years.”

        No wonder the Bishops who Robert Spencer rails against take the position they do.

        Yes, if Francis told the truth about Muslim persecution of Christians there would be bloody reprisals but isn’t part of Christianity bearing witness regardless? As it is his silence allows the slow genocide to continue without alarming those of us in the West who need to be alarmed.

        When there are no more Christians in the Middle East I wonder whether he will ask himself what his silence gained.

        More details here:

        https://ecawblog.wordpress.com/2014/10/22/popes-priests-and-islam/

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Aug 29, 2015 at 3:40 am

          Awesome comment, ECAW! Right on target!

    • Dr. Divinity says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 10:09 pm

      The Vatican may soon change its name to Vaticanistan

  2. mortimer says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    Fr. Douglas al-Bazi’s point is well taken: “Islam is codified by the mullahs…individual Muslims practice Islam or they don’t.”

    In other words, some Muslims are ‘moderate’ in practicing Islam or totally non-practicing.

    Those who practice classical Islam are called ‘extreme’ by Westerners.

    Muslims who allow themselves to have friends among the KUFAAR are non-practicing.

    According to Sharia law, a Muslim may be ‘friendly’ towards a kafir, but may never be a genuine friend to kafir.

    How do we know if a Muslim is a ‘real’, ‘genuine’ friend or if he is just FAKING being ‘friendly’?? We don’t. That is the problem.

    • Neil Jennison says

      Aug 27, 2015 at 5:37 pm

      Yes. True.

    • Porky The Crusader says

      Aug 27, 2015 at 7:32 pm

      I have the solution to your problem, don’t be friends with muslims. It’s simple as that,lol

    • Huck Folder says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 1:00 am

      @ mortimer:

      “According to Sharia law, a Muslim may be ‘friendly’ towards a kafir, but may never be a genuine friend to kafir.”

      “Al-Bukhari [compiler of the most canonical hadith collection] recorded that Abu Ad-Darda [a companion and pupil of Muhammad] said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.” Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “The Tuqyah [or taqqiyah], deception on behalf of Islam] is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.”

  3. mortimer says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    Interfaith dialogue without a THOROUGH knowledge of the doctrines is an invitation to deception.

    Most of our Western clergy are going into interfaith dialogue without the smallest acquaintance with Islam’s supremacism, misogyny and ESSENTIAL doctrine ‘AL-WALAA WAL-BARAA’ (Islamic apartheid).

    They are walking in to dialogue with a large sign on their backs that says ‘KICK ME’. Such clergy emerge from dialogue thinking that ‘friendly’ Islam is genuine and then they confidently talk down to those who have studied Islam FOR YEARS!

    The pompous asses!

    • ECAW says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 4:39 am

      Indeed. There is professor/priest in Birmingham (I can’t remember his name) and an advisor to the CofE who said:

      “I start from the principle that Islam is what Muslims say it is”

      Can you imagine any more fatuous, naive outlook? Islam is what Allah said it is, and he was very clear.

      • The Doctor says

        Aug 28, 2015 at 3:46 pm

        So do I. I start from the idea that Islam is what Muslims say it is. Al-Bagdadi has a Ph.D. in Islamic studies, so he should know what Islam is.

        • ECAW says

          Aug 28, 2015 at 4:31 pm

          How do you choose between what Baghdadi, Zuhdi Jasser and Mehdi Hasan say it is then?

    • RG says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 9:50 am

      @mortimer. Wow! Well said….

  4. Neil Jennison says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    Yes. true.

  5. Sam Hawkins says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    When Islam lives amidst you, the situation might appear acceptable. But when one lives amidst Muslims, everything becomes impossible.

    That’s it, in a nutshell.

    What more needs to be said?

  6. Neil Jennison says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    What can anyone say about the Catholic hierarchy today?

    Despair is what I feel, utter despair. They promote (with some notable and holy exceptions) heterodox, pick’n’mix Catholicism for our own “Faithful”.

    But then they ignore the fact that Muslims, who are following their evil, satanic scripture to the letter, are involved in the massacre of Christians, Jews and others.

    This is done on the grounds that “not all Muslims are evil”. I am sure they are not. But those that follow this evil cult to the letter are following evil and it is about time someone in the Catholic Church had the bollocks to say it.

    I won’t be holding my breath.

  7. Wellington says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    Exactly what Ibn Warraq had said. Yes, there may be moderate Muslims (and how useless and clueless they are) but there is no moderate Islam.

    Islam in its theological blueprint is spiritual fascism. To the extent anyone disagrees with this assertion, they are either manifesting their ignorance or their mendacity. No third alternative exists.

  8. epistemology says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    I remember a time not so long ago before 1989 when muzzies used to behave in Europe. But when they get more numerous they want rule and that’s what ISIS is doing right now. We’ve got to tell everybody here Islam and ISIS are the same, as Robert pointed out in his new book. It’s the same murderous ideology.

  9. gravenimage says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    Iraqi priest: “There’s no such thing as moderate Islam…ISIS represents Islam one hundred percent”
    ……………………………………..

    Fr. Douglas al-Bazi is a brave and honest man.

    It is often forgotten in light of the sanguinary horror of the Islamic State, but Christians in Iraq were subjected to genocide and were fast facing extinction *before* ISIS ever came along.

    Here’s a story from 2010, a year before ISIS began making incursions into Iraq:

    “Iraq: ‘Seven years have passed and Christianity is still bleeding. Where is the world’s conscience?'”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/iraq-seven-years-have-passed-and-christianity-is-still-bleeding-where-is-the-worlds-conscience

  10. Michael Copeland says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    “There is no radical or moderate Islam. There is only authentic Islam.”
    Mohamed Achamlane, of Forsane Alizza,
    In his trial in Paris for plotting terrorist attacks.
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/08/we-are-committed-to-being-active-participants-in-our-society-but-it-has-to-be-on-islams-terms

  11. Angemon says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 8:22 pm

    Rome. “Please, if there’s anyone who still thinks ISIS doesn’t represent Islam, know that they are wrong. ISIS represents Islam one hundred percent.” Father Douglas al Bazi, an Iraqi Catholic parish priest in Erbil, raised his voice during an intervention at the Meeting in Rimini, with a choice of words – in a provocative way and in hard tones – that few had ventured use so far.

    Disagreeing with the official papal narrative? People have been excommunicated for less…

  12. wildjew says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    No big surprise, Bill O’Reilly told his audience tonight Muslims who engage in mass murder practice a perversion of Islam.

    • dlbrand says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 12:05 am

      wildjew says: “….Bill O’Reilly told his audience tonight Muslims who engage in mass murder practice a perversion of Islam.”

      Just one more prime example of FOX News feeding their gullible audience falsehood.

      ‘ pity the minds that trust FNC for their info.

      Just like the well informed and well aware Iraqi Priest stated, “ISIS represents Islam one hundred percent.”

      Indeed it does; only fools believe and assert otherwise.

    • Huck Folder says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 1:05 am

      @ wildjew

      “Muslims who engage in mass murder practice a perversion of Islam.”

      per which version, sunni or shia?
      Probably not ahmadi, they’re just
      water-carrying HYPOCRITES.

  13. Cristina says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    I just read this piece. What do you think? A good step forward to promoting a non extremist interpretation of the Koran? http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Muslims-defend-Christians’-freedom-in-Beirut-Declaration-35135.html

    • koran-at-a-glance says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 6:00 am

      Not looking very far into this Declaration on Religious Freedom we find this –

      “Religious faith is a free choice and obligation. It is every person’s right. The Holy Qur’an unequivocally protects this right when he says, “There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong” (Surat Al-Baqarah – The Cow, 2:256).*

      In another verse, it goes on to state, “So remind, [O Muhammad]; you are only a reminder. You are not over them a controller “(Surat Al-Ghāshiyah – The Overwhelming, 88:21-22).”

      Not only has 2:256 been abrogated by 9:5 (see here for details) –

      http://www.koran-at-a-glance.com/sura2.html

      but the very next verse says “As for those who disbelieve, their patrons are false deities. They bring them out of light into darkness. Such are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein.”

      Is this threat of eternal fire not compulsion, or at least an offer you can’t refuse, on Allah’s part?

      The same goes for 88:21-22. See here for details –

      http://www.koran-at-a-glance.com/sura88.html

      So, no I don’t think it a “a good step forward to promoting a non extremist interpretation of the Koran”, not one which would cut much ice with the majority of orthodox Muslims at least.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 1:58 pm

      Cristina wrote:

      I just read this piece. What do you think? A good step forward to promoting a non extremist interpretation of the Koran? http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Muslims-defend-Christians’-freedom-in-Beirut-Declaration-35135.html
      ………………………….

      Ah–I wish, Cristina.

      Here it says that the “Beirut Declaration” was motivated in large part to counter “Islamophobia”–in other words, this is mostly Taqiyya:

      http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Islamic-Makassed-launch-doctrinal-battle-against-Muslim-extremism-35112.html

      In it, Makassed blames the rise of radical Islam on the survival of Israel in the 1967 war–in other words, it is the fault of the Jews.

      And one of Makassed’s major goals has nothing to do with the treatment of Christians–they want to reestablish compulsory Islamic education in Lebanon–certainly a disturbing goal.

  14. dlbrand says

    Aug 27, 2015 at 11:54 pm

    ” ISIS represents Islam one hundred percent.”

    Well of course it does.

    They earned the title, “This is Islam”; object lesson of such, nonpareil.

  15. Jack Diamond says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 12:15 am

    “the comfortable suburban Church continues on its comfortable suburban way, secure in its illusions and delusions.”

    “Wake up! The cancer is at your door. They will destroy you. We, the Christians of the Middle East are the only group that has seen the face of evil: Islam”…. Spoken by a man whose every day might well be his last.

    I was reminded of an exchange between Father Zakaria Botros, the Coptic priest from Egypt, and Michael Coren, a few years ago on his television show in Canada:
    FZB: Muslims pretend to be nice people…
    Coren (appalled) Oh, but this is so jarring to Canadian ears!
    FZB: And so the Westerners are very naive. They say that ‘they are very peaceful and love people’…. Coren: Surely, most Muslims are peaceful people….
    FZB: Naive!
    Coren: You think every Muslim is like that?!
    FZB: Look, every TRUE Muslim is like that. A moderate Muslim, polite and moderate. But when the Islam prevails, all of them they will become true Muslims and follow that strategy. We know them because we live among them fourteen centuries! We live among them and we know them very well. But the Western people did not live with them. So they just only see the peaceful way. But one day will come and they will know the truth but it will be too late. I’m sorry to say that.

    FZB (later): Islam is not just a religion, Islam (is) a State..Islam is ideology, Islam wants to prevail (over) the whole world. And 9/11 is not so far from us. This is their ultimate intention.
    Coren: Many Muslims watching will be so hurt by what you are saying. They don’t want to take over the world, they simply want to live their life, be happy and be good….
    FZB: Those people follow the Meccan Islam because they are weak now. But when they have the upper hand (knowing laugh) they will do more than that.

    • dlbrand says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 11:55 am

      “Those people follow the Meccan Islam because they are weak now. But when they have the upper hand (knowing laugh) they will do more than that.”

      Indeed, and if they did not do that “more” when opportunity for it showed, they would be apostates–rejectors of the way of Muhammad–no Muslims.

  16. Linde Barrera says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 2:20 am

    Father Douglas al-Bazi said: “I believe they’ll destroy us in the end. But I also believe that we will have the last word.” This is so sad because the western world Christian churches are not helping at all. That makes them (their leaders and members) complicit with ISIS. What a horrific thought…complicit with ISIS. As I read Father al-Bazi’s words over, it seems like he is preparing for martyrdom. God bless him and his followers. In Matthew 24:35, Mark 13:31, and Luke 21:33, Jesus tells the crowd: “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.”

  17. Richard Hallin says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 5:57 am

    I am bewildered by this constant rubbish the pope and his priests keep coming out with, islam in not, and never will be, “the religion of love and peace”, we are told to believe in. Anyone who has been watching developments around the world in the last few years can see that, you do not need to have studied islam to see exactly what this barbaric, cruel non inclusive religion stands for. There is of course a precedent for the catholic church to promote a vile, evil regime, this was during WW2 the catholic church actively supported the Nazi, and fascist governments of Germany and Italy, going so far as to the setting up of an escape line for SS and other Nazi’s wanted for war crimes. However what they expect to achieve this time spreading disinformation regarding the truth about islam I fail to see, They must realise that under islam, their very religion is cause for them to all be put to death for being non believers.

    • Western Canadian says

      Aug 31, 2015 at 2:27 pm

      I am no lover of the RC church, but I find ignorant fools like you repeating smears and lies to be completely disgusting.

  18. Kasey says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 7:00 am

    This priest is so correct in his assessment of Islam. Even the Turkish President Erdogan agrees with him. He has said so, that Islam is Islam, period. That of course really means “Islam is as Islam does”. and the sooner the whole World recognizes this, the monster can be controlled and defeated by logic and reason as well as by military means.

  19. Baucent says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 8:13 am

    Father Douglas is a true hero and a true Christian. The cardboard Cardinals of Rome and elsewhere should be ashamed in his presence.

    • Raja says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 10:26 am

      Very true. I admire him a lot. Although the Catholic church sanctions abominable customs/practices I feel he is a Christian in practice. I don’t think it is God’s will that the Christians should be persecuted for so long and in huge numbers. in Matthew chapter 24 Jesus gave a solution to the impending genocide and Christians who heeded his words were saved (as reported by Josephus , the historian)

      Conscientious people should raise the voices to God, the politicians and social media.. The media should be shamed by the public.

  20. Raja says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 10:00 am

    Western “leaders” cannot face the reality that some Islamist some where is ever ready to kill him. These leaders are real evil as they don’t want to tell the truth about Islam. Few leaders like Bobby Jindal have had the guts to quote: Islam has problems with criticism etc. We clearly lack wise people around us.

    There was a German Pastor Martin Niemöller, 1945 who had said:

    “In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade
    unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I
    didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to
    speak up.”

    People have become very cold and numb not to bother about future Sep 11’s

  21. Raja says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 10:10 am

    Give Pople a break !!!! !He won’t really care for the well being of people as he is not a disciple of Christ. If he was he would speak the truth about Islam in a subtle way. He is the “head” of the Catholic Church and I don’t know what it’s doctrine is about mass murders/Genocide.

    The “head” of other Churches is no better.These heads are NOT FUNCTIONAL OR DYSFUNCTIONAL !!!!

    • Raja says

      Aug 28, 2015 at 10:14 am

      Sorry for the typo error Pople. It should be Pope.

  22. Christian A. Beltram says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 11:59 am

    If the Vatican were the powerful force that it was centuries ago, Christians in the Islamic World would have a better chance at survival than they do now. Today, the Vatican is the smallest country in the world with a population only in the hundreds. That fact alone makes groups like ISIS think that they can conquer Christianity with little or no difficulty.

  23. Joe says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    Thank you for sharing this. I’m sure you know that it is not only “Fr. Douglas al-Bazi’s coreligionists in the West, and their leaders among the U.S. Catholic bishops” who believe that dialog is the best thing Christians can do with Muslims. Long before the events of 9/11 in the USA, an Anglican leader in the UK once told me that Muslims don’t need to be saved. He said that it would do more harm than good if a Christian tried to lead a Muslim to Christ. His main goal was to get Christians and Muslims to talk with each other and live in peace together. If that is the goal of dialog, the Church has lost it’s mission. It appears the goal of Islam is to keep Muslims and everyone else from being “born-again” through faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and the leaders of the Christian church do not seem to care.

  24. sidney penny says

    Aug 28, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    Another super introduction to the story ,Robert

  25. Cecilia Ellis says

    Aug 29, 2015 at 1:39 am

    Fr. Douglas Al-Bazi attended an annual conference (August 20 – 26, 2015) entitled, “What is this lack a lack of, oh heart, of which all of a sudden you are full?” According to the host, the purpose of the annual meeting in Rimini, Italy is as follows:

    “A CERTAIN IDENTITY, AN INFINITE OPENNESS
    This human and cultural position is the starting point for a gaze towards the whole world. The Meeting is a place where it is possible to value each other, where the other’s differences are a positive provocation, a help to discover the truth that corresponds to the human needs. For this reason every year Jews, Buddhists, atheists, Orthodox, and Muslims attend it.”

    The agenda commenced with a session entitled, “RELIGIONS ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION. THEY ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.” Presenters included the following participants: Azzedine Gaci, Rector of Othman Mosque in Villeurbanne, France; H. E. Card Jean-Louis Tauran, President of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue.

    Later, on the same day, there was a session entitled, “A REASON TO LIVE OR TO DIE. MARTYRS OF TODAY.” It was at that session that Fr. Douglas Al-Bazi sought to enlighten attendees on the reality of ISIS and Islam as being one and the same. Notably, other presenters included Ibrahim Alsabagh, Parish Priest of the Latin Community of Aleppo, Syria. At that session, attendees also viewed a video-interview with Iraqi refugees at Fr. Al-Bazi’s camp in Erbil.

    Subsequently, another session addressed “ISLAM, CONSTITUTIONS AND DEMOCRACY.” Presenters were Ibrahim Kaboglu, Professor of Constitutional Law at Marmara University, Istanbul and Adel Omar Sherif, Deputy Chief of the Supreme Constitutional Court of Egypt.

    Other than the presentation provided by Fr. Al-Bazi and Fr. Alsabagh, the persecution of Christians was not an official subject of the week-long meeting, which focused on music, art, economics, and social concerns, e.g. sharing the wealth, poverty, etc.

    The purpose of the conference and the complete agenda may be viewed at the following links:

    http://www.meetingrimini.org/eng/default.asp?id=826
    http://www.meetingrimini.org/core/programmapdf.asp?id_lingua=39&anno=2015

    What a sad response to such an urgent need! For that, there is no excuse.

  26. dumbledoresarmy says

    Aug 29, 2015 at 7:25 am

    As regards the Muslim persecution and murder of Assyrian Christians:

    There is a book about the mass-murder that was carried out by Turkish, Arab, Kurdish and Persian Muslims, at the time when Armenian Christians and Greek Christians, within the Ottoman (Muslim) Empire, were also being mass-murdered.

    It is written by a man whose mother was one of the survivors, and ended up in America.

    I just read two articles about it in the English-language Israeli news outlet, Arutz 7.

    Here are the links.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17457
    Op-Ed: Silencing the Past, Part I
    The massacre of the Assyrians by ISIS has awakened horrifying echoes of their massacre by the Ottoman Turks in WWI. The author’s mother lived to tell the tale.

    Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:59 AM

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17456
    Op-Ed: Silencing the Past, Part II
    The story of an Assyrian woman’s life sheds light on ISIS today. Nothing changes in man’s inhumanity to man.

    (Or, more precisely, nothing changes in Muslim cruelty toward any non-Muslims over which Muslims have power to do exactly as Muslims feel like doing and are taught to do – dda)

    excerpt:

    “The stories recorded of the savage brutality against the Christians seemed limitless.

    “It wasn’t beyond the Muslims to soak Christians in oil and burn them alive, saw off their legs and arms, gouge their eyes with knives, chop babies into pieces, and cut open the stomachs of pregnant women to remove their fetus.”

    Exactly as Muslims did in the late 19th century, to the Bulgarian Christians.

    Exactly as Muslims did when engaged in Jihad against south Sudanese Christians, and exactly as Muslims did on many occasions when engaged in Jihad in India….

    The vicious cruelty of Islamic State jihadis is nothing new at all. It is bog-standard mohammedan brutality.

  27. Shawn says

    Aug 31, 2015 at 1:01 am

    Muslim Scholars Release Open Letter To Islamic State Meticulously Blasting Its Ideology
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/muslim-scholars-islamic-state_n_5878038.html

    • Robert Spencer says

      Aug 31, 2015 at 9:28 am

      What a shame that it was so dishonest:

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/international-group-of-muslim-scholars-refutes-islamic-states-islamic-case-while-endorsing-jihad-sharia-caliphate

      http://pjmedia.com/blog/6-elements-of-extremist-islam-that-moderate-muslims-endorsed-as-they-condemned-the-islamic-state/

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