“They have jihad factories in Pakistan. The poor people are their targets as they can train and brainwash them easily. The ISI present there provide them with weapons and ammunitions and train them from their childhood itself.”
And they’re funded by the money the U.S. government sends to Pakistan to fight terrorism. Pakistan’s Double Game Update: “‘Jihad factories’ in Pak trained to launch attacks on India: R.K. Singh,” ANI, August 5, 2015:
Former home secretary R.K. Singh on Wednesday lashed out at the Pakistan Government, saying there are ‘jihad factories’ actively being operated there which are spewing terrorists to launch attacks on India time and again.
His comment came after a Pakistani terrorist was caught alive today and another was shot dead in a gun battle in Udhampur, Jammu and Kashmir.
Singh maintained that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has no power to end terrorist activities in his country.
“Nawaz Sharif is not in the state to deliver on terrorism front. He has no control over his country and over the terrorism spread in his land,” he said.
“He cannot deliver on any promises he makes, and I don’t think that there is any scope remaining to talk on this issue now,” he added.
Singh stressed that talks with Pakistan are futile as they do not fear repercussion from the Indian Government.
“Pakistan will not stop attacking India until we hit back and create fear in their hearts. After the Gurdaspur incident, this incident in Udhampur is solid proof of their involvement in terrorist activities,” he said.
“They have jihad factories in Pakistan. The poor people are their targets as they can train and brainwash them easily. The ISI present there provide them with weapons and ammunitions and train them from their childhood itself,” Singh added.
Don McKellar says
Jihad factories in Pakistan? No surprise, but what is their military doing about it? The products of jihad factories will attack them just as well as India if they are deemed not Islamic enough. Or perhaps they will apply for some Obamacare foreign aid to help address this problem?
mortimer says
The madrassahs in Pakistan are already jihad factories. They brainwash the Pakistani youth 95% and so it’s a small job to brainwash them the rest of the way to suicide-murder.
The only way for Pakistan to take control of jihad is to suppress completely or radically reform the curricula of the madrassahs so there is no time to teach children to hate.
Pakistan needs to introduce critical thought into its school curricula. The students will apply whatever they learn to Islam on their own time.
Don McKellar says
“Pakistan needs to introduce critical thought into its school curricula. The students will apply whatever they learn to Islam on their own time.”
Making a course on basic logic and critical thinking mandatory for all schools would act like an antibiotic for the Islamic infection in any country. Of course once the imams catch on to what’s happening, it would be shooting/bombing/knifing season on the teachers and principals of the schools. But you have made a good suggestion that the military government needs desperately to apply. The result may not be the end of Islam, but it sure would produce a new generation of lax, not very observant moslems. If the teachers can be protected while the seeds are planted…
Cliffhild says
But Islamic spokespersons have already said that critical thinking must not be applied to the Islamic faith. So there you have it, Muslims are not allowed to think for themselves. If they do, they will be threatened with hell fire.
May I suggest a book: It’s All About Muhammad: A Biography of the Prophet by WF Burleigh
voegelinian says
Wow. mortimer and Don McKellar ought to start an Asymptotic Society or something, what with their boundless hope for the Muslim People (as opposed to the Tiny Minority of Dastardly Clerics who hoodwink all those lovely Muslims who just wanna have a sandwich & apple pie…)
voegelinian says
I wonder why they don’t avail themselves of home-grown Muslims inside India — there are some 180 million Muslims in India. Since I apply “Hesperado’s Law” to questions like this (i.e., never give the benefit of the doubt to Muslims, and always assume the worst about them), it can’t be because Indian Muslims are magically delicious and moderate. The answer would have to be subtler, more complex, more interesting — and, of course, would not let Indian Muslims off the hook. Thus avoid like the plague such speculative flights of fancy as this op-ed from the New York Times:
Why India’s Muslims Haven’t Radicalized
http://op-talk.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/why-indias-muslims-havent-radicalized/?_r=0
An article chock-full of nausea-inducing nuggets (have your vomit bucket handy) as this:
“Islam in South Asia has a long history, over 1,000 years, but was long dominated by Sufis who integrated closely with non-Muslim Hindus, sharing many cultural practices.”
So that’s how that NYT op-ed breezes over the genocide of Hindus by Muslims to the tune of at least (by conservative estimates) 60 million massacred. And so on, ad Islamonauseam — or should I say, Dhimminauseam.
Jaladhi says
This is expected from NYTimes, lies, lies, lies and more lies – they are just as big liars as Muslims are and also they love Islam. Amazing a company with Jewish roots will be in cahoots with Muslims! Liberals have become radicals! Just like the “moderate” and radical Muslims we have moderate and radical liberals and taking the similarity farther there are no moderate liberals, they are all radicals like their Muslim brethren.
Gary says
In case of nyt and many other like them , its the saudi qatar funding that speaks !
shams78 says
You should strengthen your ties with Arabs.
The Hindu Marathas hated Indian Muslims (of Central Asian Turkic and Afghan origin, such as the Mughals and Durrani Pashtuns. Timur and Ghaznavaids were both Central Asians too). Marathas had no beef with Arab Muslims. The Marathas concluded an alliance with Arab Muslims against the British while the Marathas were fighting the Mughals. The Arabs and Maraths launched joint naval attacks against the British. The Maratha hired thousands of Arab Muslim mercenaries to fight in India against the British in the Anglo-Maratha wars.
There was a Marathi Muslim named Ibrahim Khan Gardi who fought on the Maratha side at the Battle of Panipat against the Durranis.
Indian has strong trading ties to the southern Arabian peninsula dating back over 1,000 years. There were Hindu merchant communities and a Hindu temple in Aden, Yemen, and there is a Hindu community, temple and crematorium in Muscat, Oman, where they have received Omani citizenship and practice their religion freely.
Yasser Arafat called Indira Gandhi his “sister” and was friends with the Serbian leader Milosevic.
Western Canadian says
arafat had no friends, was a complete sub-animal. And you are his sister.
Angemon says
This guy gets it.
Jaladhi says
Absolutely right!! Muslims only understand brutal force and nothing else. They will never stay as equal – either they dominate or they dominate you!! If we can’t learn this from history then we haven’t learned anything at all!
umbra says
When India hits back, it may lead to another major Indian-pak conflict (it’s 2-0 India so far). If this conflict is prolonged, pak will likely face yet another ignominious defeat unless it goes nuclear. In which case it may lead to a stalemate (small scale nukes exchange only), or the disintegration of the pak state (full scale nuke war). India will be severely damaged – population, infrastructure and industries, but pak would just become debris.
Westman says
One hopes not, still, it is likely that the next use of a nuclear device will either be in an India-Pakistan or Israel-Iran conflict. In both cases Islamic supremacist ideology is the driving force that is never satisfied to live alongside unbelievers. Unbelievers don’t share Islam’s 7th Century delusion that it has kept up with the world’s progress or that it has a viable future as it slips further into obsolescence.
Ivan says
Israel will shoot down every A bomb about Iraq.They can shoot down mortars,so a big bomb is no problem.So Iran will contimated their own Shiit brothers..but i know that the press will write-“Israel is the bad guy”…
and to Muslims:
A guy from Tadjikistan told me with 1 muslim alone you(as a non muslim) can talk good,if they are 2 they make fun of you,if they are 3 they try to start a fight….then he came to Europe and it was the same…
abad says
India should kick out the Muslims on their soil.
dumbledoresarmy says
A new poster called “Ivan”, above, has quite an interesting little line. Worth filing away, because it does in fact sum up mohammedan behaviour very neatly.
“A guy from Tadjikistan told me with 1 muslim alone you (as a non muslim) can talk good, if they are 2 they make fun of you, if they are 3 they try to start a fight….then he came to Europe and it was the same…” (presumably, that is, ‘the same’ with the Muslims in Europe – DDA).
So, to repeat, here’s the line, worth memorising, because it correlates pretty well with the observable facts on the ground, both now and historically. It’s a formulation of the phase shift’ from ‘make nice’ to ‘aggressive’ that occurs when the Mohammedan Mob moves from being very small and weak, to a position of perceived/ actual strength.
“with 1 muslim alone you (as a non muslim) can talk good, if they are 2 they make fun of you, if they are 3 they try to start a fight.”
dumbledoresarmy says
Above, “Face the Truth” has referred readers to the works of K S Lal on the subject of Islam in India.
These books are an excellent source of information. Harrowing reading; the damage done by Muslims to India is immense, incalculable; a loss not only to India, but to the *world*.
Those books – along with Dr Mark Durie’s incisive study of the Dhimma system and how it works, “The Third Choice: Islam, Dhimmitude and Freedom” – should be compulsory reading for any non-Muslim diplomat or journalist who is being sent to India. Also recommended: Coptic-American author Raymond Ibrahim’s series of excellent articles on the subject of Muslim deception, and ex-Musllim Sam Solomon’s book, “Al Hijra: The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration”.
With information like that under their belts, our diplomats and journalists would be more able to understand why, when there are hostilities between India and Pakistan, it is a good rule of thumb to assume that the Indian (non-Muslim) side is more likely to be telling the truth about whatever happened, and that the Pakistanis are lying in some way; and also that the Pakistanis are most likely the aggressors. And the same applies to the situation *within* India; that it is generally safe to assume that the Muslims are the aggressors/ provokers if trouble breaks out, but that they will *claim* to be the victims.
mortimer says
Pakistan is filled with cultists who worship Mohammed as a god. Influenced by Hinduism and its many avatars, Pakistani Muslims see Mohammed as an incarnation of the deity, though they would deny it.
They rant and rage about Mohammed’s holiness without ever considering that much of what passes as normative Islam (not just their blasphemous version) is attributing a partner (Mohammed) to Allah.
Pakistani Muslims are some of the greatest blasphemers in the world, since they literally worship Mohammed in their delusional ignorance and lack of critical thought.
Jack Diamond says
Why couldn’t any Muslim mistake Muhammad for Allah’s partner? Yes, he is a mortal but….
“It is not for a believer when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah & His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.” Qur’an 33:36
4:65 “But no, by your Lord, they will not [truly] believe until they make you, [O Muhammad], judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full, willing] submission.”
24:62 “Indeed, those who ask your permission, [O Muhammad] – those are the ones who believe in Allah and His Messenger. So when they ask your permission for something of their affairs, then give permission to whom you will among them and ask forgiveness for them of Allah.” “So let those beware who dissent from the Prophet’s order, lest fitnah strike them or a painful punishment.” 24:63
Muslims must seek the permission of Muhammad for what they choose to do. Worse.
Bukhari v2b24n533 “Muhammad will intercede with Allah to judge amongst the people.” Partners!
The Qur’an, the word of Allah, says Allah curses the one who harms the Prophet in this world and He connects harm of Himself to harm of the Prophet. “Those who harm Allah and His Messenger, Allah has cursed them in this world and in the next and has prepared for them a humiliating punishment.” (33:57; 9:63)
Thus, the mufti quoted at Islam Q&A “Insulting the Prophet (Muhammad) is one of the worst of forbidden actions and it constitutes kufr and apostasy from Islam, according to scholarly consensus…the one who did it is to be executed even if he repents and whether he is a Muslim or a kaffir…”
Of course Allah has a partner, Muhammad (with or without being a Hindu god too) or rather it is Muhammad who has a partner…Allah Deus ex machina.
sidney penny says
Sufi not peaceful.
Please do not fall for Islamic propaganda.(which continues to today everywhere in the world)
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com.au/2007/10/sitaram-goel-on-chisti-ajmer-school-of.html
It is very fashionable among the Indian dhimmis, (usually Hindus) including some so-called nationalists to praise Sufism, its “syncretic culture” and its alleged “moderation” to the skies.
Therefore, one should not lose sight of these pertinent facts about it.
True Face of Sufism
A study of this literature leaves little doubt that Sufis were the most fanatic and fundamentalist elements in the Islamic establishment in medieval times.
shams78 says
Western liberals and hippie and orientalists are the ones who try to label Sufism as pacifist. Because they want to subvert and degrade Sufism to fit their own drug induced fantasies. Sufis would spit in their faces if they tried to make tem fit their fantasies about Sufism being some mystic drug induced stupor to get a high.
Western Canadian says
More gibbering from a muslim troll and liar. The ‘liar’ point is redundant
sidney penny says
What they teach in madrassas in Pakistan,(and everywhere else in the world) and not only in masrassas but in normal schools in Pakistan.
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/
JIHÃD
THE ISLAMIC DOCTRINE OF PERMANENT WAR
Jihãd has five clear components, and a complete understanding of the subject requires a discussion of each one of them.
Thus jihãd stands for
(1) Forcible expansion of Islam;
(2) Destruction of infidels;
(3) Establishment of jizyah on the subdued infidel population;
(4) Plunder in the form of properties wrested from infidels; and
(5) Plunder in the form of enslaved female and child population acquired from the vanquished infidels.
sidney penny says
read and educate yourself so you are not ignorant of what Muslims tell you about Islam.
This applies especially to journalists and the main stream media..
sidney penny says
““They have jihad factories in Pakistan. The poor people are their targets as they can train and brainwash them easily. The ISI present there provide them with weapons and ammunitions and train them from their childhood itself,” Singh added.””
You can say this again.Not only poor but uneducated.poor.
Robert ,your highlights are super.Thanks.
And who is providing the money for all of this.It is the infidels(USA)
Why are still providing Aid to Pakistan?So that it can make war on India,make friends with China and double cross USA?
dumbledoresarmy says
why is the USA (and other countries, too, like the UK and even Australia, both of which can ill afford it) giving “aid” to Pakistan?
Short answer is: because they were *fooled* into it during the Cold War days, by Muslims who knew just how to finagle an intra-Infidel conflict (Communist vs Free World) to their own benefit. You, as an Indian, with a country *full* of deluded Dhimmis, should know exactly how effective Muslim deception can be…and Americans, even American military and political leaders, are and have been, in general, more naive and less worldly-wise than the average Indian, more willing to believe the flowery nonsense and lies that slick Muslim con-artists have peddled to them.
Longer answer is probably …tribute/ Jizya, extorted by Pakistan by means of Pakistan’s nuke arsenal. As soon as Pakistan got those nukes, they could blackmail the West with them. They could say, “Oh, but if our government falls/ if we become a failed state, the jihadis will get the nukes…so give us lotsa money!” Alternatively, who knows, what if behind the scenes they just tell the diplomats, and the intelligence officers: if. you. do . not. pay. the .aid. we. WILL. use. those . nukes”. Muslims are mad and bad enough to do that. And so the Jizya, or should we call it the Tribute, keeps on rolling in…because no-one is brave enough to call their bluff…or to start figuring out how to *destroy* that nuke arsenal.
The only way forward, in India and in the USA, is for the Islamosavvy, those of us who *have* woken up, the Order of the Phoenix, to stubbornly refuse to despair and keep on keeping on…educating our fellow infidels, until a ‘critical mass’ is reached that is *so* large that our politicians cannot ignore it.
By the way, I just came across an article that you might find interesting. It’s written by an English social scientist who is pretty clued-up about Islam, and it appeared at Ali Sina’s website a little while ago. I would quibble with her wording – one should really replace “Islamism” with “Islam” and “Islamist” with “Muslim”, throughout – but she makes some very good points, about the psychological warfare that Muslims are using upon westerners, specifically. If you, as a non-westerner, understand that – and you’ll also see, in her description of the Muslim modus operandi, things that will remind you of the way Muslim operatives deal with certain types of Indians – you may be able to help counter it, in internet forums and elsewhere.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/how-islam-fascinates-the-west/
BY BABS BARON · JUNE 30, 2015
Excerpt, to give you an idea of the “flavour” (and these two paragraphs are pure brilliance):
“To allow one group of people [that is, the Muslims – dda] to create conditions whereby the rest of a population are made nervous, and then to allow them [i.e. the Muslims – dda] with impunity to accuse that remainder of paranoia, is a denial of reality.
“People who are forced to live under this double bind — that they will be damned if they speak out against this erosion of culture and free speech and damned again if they do not — have a third oppression added to their existence — they are forced to live with the consequences of not speaking out…”.
Jack Diamond says
dda, coincidentally Babs commented recently at JW on this thread:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/08/uk-muslima-who-joined-islamic-state-was-radicalized-at-london-mosque#comments
Philip says
And this is …NEWS? Come on this was old hat in the last century when Jihad was fighting the Soviets in Afghan. Can’t we do better than this…?