Whether it’s race hatred such as that which drove Vester Flanagan to commit murder, or jihad hatred that drove the 9/11 hijackers to commit murder on a grand scale, it all ultimately comes from the same wellspring. Yet the enablers and tacit supporters of jihad terrorism gain a great deal of success in the U.S. by tarring foes of jihad terror as “hatemongers.” The real hate is all on their side. Vester Flanagan, a hate-filled non-Muslim, recognized that clearly.
“Man who shot Virginia journalists identified with 9/11 attacks: sheriff,” by Ian Simpson, Reuters, August 28, 2015:
The gunman who killed two Virginia television journalists on air carried out a well-planned assault and identified with mass murderers and the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, authorities said on Friday.
The shooter, Vester Flanagan, gave no sign of his destination or next move when he fled after gunning down the journalists from Roanoke station WDBJ7 on Wednesday, the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement.
“It is evident that Wednesday morning’s attack was well-planned and premeditated” and Flanagan apparently acted alone, the statement on the shooting investigation said.
Flanagan, a former station employee, fired 17 rounds from a .40 caliber Glock pistol when he attacked reporter Alison Parker and cameraman Adam Ward as they were conducting a live interview at Smith Mountain Lake in southwest Virginia, the statement said.
Flanagan shot himself during a police chase in northern Virginia and died. The woman who was being interviewed was wounded and hospitalized.
Evidence and his writings show that Flanagan “closely identified with individuals who have committed domestic acts of violence and mass murder, as well as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S.,” said the statement. Almost 3,000 people were killed in the 9/11 attacks….
In a fax to ABC News the day of the shooting, Flanagan, who was black, called himself a “powder keg” over what he saw as racial discrimination. He was fired from CBS affiliate WDBJ7 in 2013….

Anon says
Misleading headline, he “identified” with mass murder attacks, he wasn’t a Jihadist nor was he a Muslim
Brian says
Regardless of his “religious” affiliation…his ideology accorded with Islamists…murder those that you disagree with.
Shane says
He learned his lessons from White liberals very well – hate Whites and hate America. Liberals have a lot of blood on their hands.
Jay Boo says
Have they no shame?
Flanagan committed a racially motivated hate crime yet, the news media instead speculates about a hearsay (self-serving) accusation by Flanagan directed at the deceased victim.
jihad3tracker says
1. If he felt an empathy with and similarity to the Towers mass murderers, that puts his pathology into the “kill people who are not responsible for your wretched life” category — which is what the aircraft hijackers perpetrated..
2. Reciting the Shahadah in the presence of an imam, thinking of himself as a Muslim, mentally carrying out jihad — are irrelevant to the category of uninvolved-person murder he committed, identical intent as on 9/11.
Islam is the perfect ideology for perpetual grievance mongering — and managers at the TV station where Flanagan worked have spoken on his vendetta as being just the kind Allah loves to see in his fraternity boys.
voegelinian says
Anon is quibbling while Rome burns. If someone — anyone — “identifies with 911” then murders people, they are, for the purposes of our society’s safety, to be regarded in exactly the same manner as we (should) regard jihadists.
Anon says
“Quibbling”?? You,sir do not know who or what I am.
gravenimage says
How is it “misleading” to say that he closely identified with the 9/11 Jihadists, if this was indeed the case?
Vester Flanagan may not have been a Jihadist in the strictest sense himself, but he was inspired by their terrorist attacks against America.
Jaladhi says
I will be more interested in knowing if he was a Muslim or a convert to Islam for that will explain his murderous assault!
Wellington says
The time is due for a national discussion to begin respecting how much the deaths of these two white media persons was due to the self-pitying, black grievance industry, which is yet another aberrant creation of the modern Left. Certainly those blacks killed in South Carolina while attending church by a very confused, malevolent young white man were killed for racist reasons. Well, I submit the same occurred in Virginia this week, i.e., killing for the rank reason of deeply held racist sentiments. But, as Dennis Prager has observed, self-reflection by leftists is a pretty damn scarce phenomenon.
As another example, those against the death penalty, who are overwhelmingly found on the left side of the political spectrum, want to hold those FOR the death penalty responsible if an innocent person is executed. Very well. But these same people want to take no responsibility if a convicted murderer who was not executed because the death penalty was not an option murders again, be it a prison guard, a nurse attending him, one or more murders that occur because the murderer has managed an escape from prison and so on. Oh yes, as with Muslims, so is it the case with leftists that it’s a one-way street.
Shame on both of these groups for this putrid double standard. Profound and everlasting shame.
Jay Boo says
I won’t claim that:
— Vester Flanagan was projecting his own racism in order to excuse his own bigotry because that kind of thinking is not allowed.
Let it be known to the PC police that I am erasing such forbidden thoughts.
wink đ
Angemon says
Indeed. The comparison between what happened in South Caroline and Virginia, and the reactions they provoked, is definitely worth discussing over.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The word “identified” is murky when used a la “So and so identified with such and such.” Why not just publish what this guy said about 9/11 and anything else connected with Islam. If it was on Facebook that’d be easy enough; it was in spoken word statements to others, get their best recollections.
gravenimage says
Alarmed Pig Farmer wrote:
The word âidentifiedâ is murky when used a la âSo and so identified with such and such.â Why not just publish what this guy said about 9/11 and anything else connected with Islam. If it was on Facebook thatâd be easy enough; it was in spoken word statements to others, get their best recollections.
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APF, it’s from Vester Flanagan’s “manifesto”, which has not been released in full yet. Here’s what a statement from the Franklin County Sheriffâs Office said:
âBased on careful scrutiny of those writings and evidence seized from his apartment, it is apparent that Flanagan very closely identified with individuals who have committed domestic acts of violence and mass murder, as well as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S.â.
http://nypost.com/2015/08/28/on-air-killer-identified-with-911-attackers/
It’s difficult to imagine that they would be releasing statements like this to the press if they were inaccurate. His “manifesto” is bound to come to light in time.
Mirren10 says
Following your link, graven, I found an article on the ‘racist’ comments this poor woman was supposed to have made. Apparently, she said this;
”ROANOKE, Va. â The words are a part of everyday conversation â âswingingâ by an address and going out in the âfield.â
But in the twisted mind of Virginia gunman Vester Lee Flanagan II, they were pure racism â and saying them became a death sentence for Alison Parker.”
Clearly this evil cretin was insane, but even madmen have reasons, however mad their reasons are to the sane – but what, even in the mind of a madman determined to find racism, is racist about ”swinging by an address”, and ”going out in the field” ?
Absolutely *nothing* !
I wouldn’t be in the least surprised if it is discovered that, not only did he admire the perpetrators of 9/11, but he was either a muslim, or was seriously thinking of becoming one. The ‘racist’ (!) accusation was merely a front, to muddy the waters.
gravenimage says
Quite right, Mirren–yet how many will assume that this poor murdered woman really was a racist? Appalling.
gravenimage says
By the way, Vester Flanagan was virtually a neighbor of mine growing up in Oakland. He came from a family of Jehovah’s Witnesses, who would never condone this kind of violence.
He interned at KPIX news here in the Bay Area, which I often watch for local news.
By the way, here are the “racist” comments that set off this nutjob to murder two of his colleagues:
http://nypost.com/2015/08/28/reporters-everyday-comments-deemed-racist-by-on-air-killer/
No surprise that he was inspired by and respected the 9/11 Jihad murderers.
Mirren10 says
Oops ! I didn’t see your post, before I wrote mine.
gravenimage says
No problem, Mirren. It certainly bears repeating.
Bezelel says
sharpton and farakan publicly calling for such actions, even oprah saying all the old white men need to die.bryce had a definite weak spot in his perception of reality but why didn’t it manifest in some other form? I say indoctrination by the manipulators. sharpton, farakan jesse jackson, oprah and of course obola constantly reinforcing the victim mentality and encouraging people to act out their fantasies and this is what we get’. Every one of the afore mentioned racebaiters share the guilt. They have been premeditating on how to get their targets of influence to do just what the fool did. Doing their dirty dirty work for them. The “victim mentality” is the tool of the real oppressors.
TJFreedomjihad says
Stated once on Fox news was that initially, in this Roanoke, Va. âblack on whiteâ murderer’s employment history, was his working as an “escort”, then he entered his media employment!!!!
Also the incomparable Dan Greenfield brought out just how actually paranoid schizo the loser really was, âtotally drunk on his racist âcool aid” hatred dosing here:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/259950/bryce-williams-killed-white-reporter-bc-out-field-daniel-greenfield
Clearly, williams had multiple causes to murder, one of which was deep paranoia of racism, black on white, as well, who knows how much else does a âmade psychopathâ really need? One can look to mohammadanism for that, and those endless examples!
Now, in past 24 hrs. again, we have a âblack on white (10 year sheriff deputy)â murder (they got the bastard, in custody, already a shannon miles– http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c7c_1440887859 ) , while refueling his squad car, in Texas as another execution, to the back of the head of the officer, very, very clearly so, as above. Farrakhan and panthers seem to be restless and eternally stupid losers, on the Democratâs created plantation, these days. They have been preaching death to the whites for some time now, and the Democrats have been running the plantation, at the least, since LBJ promised, as supported in a letter to a daughter of his and others in his office, he’d âhave ’em (sic) voting Democrat for â200â yearsâ. When do the dumb ones, the unlucky ones, that are still on the Democratâs currently giveaway style plantation of liars, grow up and get educated, instead of following the line of âBoko Haremâ, and all the anti-education and anti-white âjiveâ both urban and suburban, and the simple minded and too often evil âblocâ. It can easily lead into self-perpetuating paranoia, and psychotic schizophrenia, and stunning delusions.
As David Clark, MKE County Sheriff, on Fox Judge Janine, just said, âwarâ was declared out of the white house on cops, and out of the former doj leadership, as well (Holder at least). He also called them âblack slimeâ referring to so called black activists (such as black lives matter, or his quote âblack lies matterâ) said this well-spoken and intelligent Sheriff! Sheriff Clark is black, and clearly a damn good man, by G-d.
Ben Carson MD, another damn good man, had been on a terrible path in the urban ghetto, in his youth, but his single mom, and grandmother helped straighten him out. His story is historic, and is oft repeated in whites and blacks and browns. Someone has TO BE THERE, AND CARE. And the lucky ones have the good fortune to have a family, who is actually there, a male and female, real ones, even together, and who involve themselves in the exemplifying and nurturing and leading, of offspring, in a responsible way. That is the ideal, and goes downhill from there to be more difficult and chancy to make it, for young people. And the government and dozens of non-related strangers canât do what a normal, yes normal, and hard to find, family, can do. Thank G-d for Ben Carsonâs mom, and her interest, involvement, and determination, in Ben.
And ditto for the ghetto mom on TV recently, who on national TV rapped her boy on the head to get back home, and out of trouble, in a riot on the street. Another heroine in difficult and far from ideal circumstance, not to mention on TV, in a nation where some lame heads, would consider her worthy caring work of loving discipline, to be child abuse, in this Democrat leftist, progressive fouled up nation, thanks to the ravings of all the Alinski disciples of Democrat leftists, on the way to an attempted marxist dictatorship.
And further, when do those of extended adolescence, (I’m speaking here mostly of whites, just so no one misunderstands), now even into their 50âs as so called adults, selfish, not selfless, grow up and learn to sacrifice, for family and country, and childrenâs and grandchildrenâs sanity and wellbeing, all colors, races, just people, humanity, that is of course, those that are in humanity, since there are many clearly not a part of humanity, like psychos, etc. That has been the model that the respected Asians have been using, a goal of success as success driven people. Long forgotten, and for way too many, never even learned, in these days of eternal self-actualization, and fun, fun, fun!
In America, demonstrated many, many times, so many blacks are responsible, family types, educated successful and very successful, some as businessmen and women, some goodly amount being superb standouts in business, medicine, science, philosophy, the Supreme Court, that is a fact, and thank G-d it is so. But so many have been unable to think for themselves, to do their own research, and instead 93% bloc voted for a criminal socialist marxist muslim. One who was obviously such, explained in his own biography.
And I speak from the experience as a close personal buddy of a pure dark black American, and a great guy, and American, not perfect, but no one is, and a long successful manager, and businessman, not either raised from an easy life, but a rural southern one, and a Democrat, but minimally so, I thought. Couldn’t change that (ha), but we did much and understood much together, as originally I was employed successfully by him, then we became pals, over a while. Much not said here, quite an enlightening adventure, but I’ve had many.
Many read the Bible, even know the Bible, yet stand idly by and do the wrong thing, and donât stand up, to vote for what is right, in spite of their bloc vote friends being, and doing wrong, and not vote for a criminal who kept company with crooks, marxists, radicals, terrorists, and muslims, all his life, and believed in and clearly demonstrated criminal deceit.
How can they not see their plantation, and all their keepers, except for the precious 7% thinkers, who believed in right? Many of those 93% were educated, in some way, also, but failed to be and think independent. He looked like a very slick hustler, that was his image to me, and others, but nowhere near enough, however I read the book on the sob.
And so many non-thinking whites, women, singles types, young people, totally bowled over, as though they knew nothing of learning, for themselves. Had they been in school, until graduation, or were they just âsocially graduatedâ, and here Iâm speaking of the non-blacks? And even worse, many of the silent majority, who knew right from wrong, exercised stupidity, of not voting, because âWTFâ it wonât change anything, my one vote, why bother, or equally stupidly, Romney is the wrong religion, or it isnât even a religion, etc. excuse, for being irresponsible fools, atheists, religious, or whatever write off excuse fools concoct.
AND NEVER FORGET, AT THE DNC CONVENTION, THREE VOTES REJECTED G-D IN THEIR PLANKS, AND THE CONVENTION LEADER FINALLY HAD TO DICTATE THAT IT WAS PART OF THE PLANKS OF THE CONVENTION! NOT ACTUALLY BY VOTE, I WATCHED IT TWICE, IN UTTER DISBELIEF, AND I KNEWâŚ.! In a thousand lifetimes, I could never be a Democrat, in eternity, neverâŚ..
Make America strong, and right again, under God, with Justice, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness for ALL, for centuries more, and do it now!!!! (Yes, I well know, it isnât a perfect history, but sure as hell better and stronger than others) Though the Heavens may fall, do it, make it happen, with Justice. Let us all rebuild, what the fools and tools, in the current regime, not administration, have torn asunder! Relight the beacon of Liberty, let it shine again, brightly!
jihad3tracker says
THANK YOU, TJF, FOR AN EXTENDED LUCID SET OF REMARKS — oOn what is likely to be the future for America in this slice of our national ethnic life. As a senior citizen (age67) and a Dem, I watched Dr. King speak at the Lincoln Memorial in 1965. That day of hope might as well have taken place a thousand years ago — so irremediably have we drifted away from what seemed a seriously achievable possibility.
AND, OF COURSE, ADDING TO THE CLIMATE OF HATRED : ORGANIZATIONS OFISLAMIC TRAITORS ALL OVER THE U.S. HAVE A CONSTANT BELOW-THE-RADAR EFFORT TO START A MAJOR RACE WAR. If they cannot take our nation down by ISIS remote control of loners, then motivate large numbers of Blacks to kill as many Whites as they can.
THFreedomjihad says
Bizarre madness, continues, on the Aug. 24, also a couple days ago, in Maine
On the subject of racism, mohammadanism, naturally murder or some other evil follows, and surprisingly, in this instance, and just as sadly, and tragically, black on black, so not really racism, but ideological beliefs and of course supremacism and intolerance (of course by mohammadans), and horrendous backgrounds of mohammadans (or they wouldn’t have done what they did), who appear to be immigrants of recent origin as opposed to long term Americans, fairly obviously, when things are put together, in this instance to Maine, youâll see, perhapsâŚ..
Beaten to Death With His Own Bible
http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/08/beaten-to-death-with-his-own-bible/#more-37184
“A horrific crime that may have been religiously motivated took place earlier this month in Portland, Maine. A Christian man was savagely beaten to death by three Muslims, but there is almost no information about the Islamic aspect of the murder in mainstream media reportsâŚâŚ. A neighbor said he believes the Muslim men got into an argument, âobjecting to the victimâs religionâ. This is corroborated by the heartbreaking thing police found next to Akoaâs head: the victimâs own King James Bible, drenched in his blood.”
How many more don’t we know about? Make of it what you will, whatever, it is tragic, outrageous, absurd, as are all such behaviors.
Baucent says
This is a very long stretch. I haven’t seen any media report that Flanagan had any interest in Islam or was a convert to Islam. What we know is he approved of those who carried out mass murders such as various school massacres and it seems 9/11. But the linking factor was revenge violence rather than any religious motivation.
Not sure why we are even discussing this on Jihad Watch Robert.
Western Canadian says
“But the linking factor was revenge violence”
Virtually ALL theft, rape and murder committed in the name of islam (RTC), to it’s hundreds of millions of innocent victims, was unjustified and unprovoked. But to devout muslims, it is ALL provoked and justified revenge committed as just payment to the ‘filthy’ non-muslim.
And there to this point is only the claim that he approved of muslim murders, which is what the article states.
JTD says
Oh, Please… This has Nothing to do with Muslim maniacs. This guy’s Koran-free. He just got screwed by the system and who-knows-what-else.
That church massacre pumped up his racial hypersensitivity which just added to this and pushed him over the edge.
What he “identifies” with is the fact that those dead guys got closure by “getting back.”
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
That church massacre pumped up his racial hypersensitivity which just added to this and pushed him over the edge.
It’s apparent that the racism touted by the likes of the Revs Al and Jesse, Prez Barack Hussein, and Eric Holder has caused the race riots and cop murders. But the racist strategy pursued by them I think also contributed to Dylann Roof’s mass murder in the name of white racism, because the very real racist agitation and hate being openly propagated by the liberals is pushing white racists over the edge because the racial hatred of Barack Hussein and Eric makes true what’s been predicted by white supremacists since the early days of the Ku Klux Klan.
Give them room to destroy. No shooting of race rioters, they are usually not even prosecuted (Baltimore, St. Louiis). Cop killing. And here we have the race monger Rev Al Sharpton with a national TV show.
Bezelel says
@JTD, You must have missed this part of the article,”Evidence and his writings show that Flanagan âclosely identified with individuals who have committed domestic acts of violence and mass murder, as well as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S.,â said the statement. Almost 3,000 people were killed in the 9/11 attacksâŚ.”
The Virginia State Police have come to that same conclusion.
Western Canadian says
“He just got screwed by the system and who-knows-what-else”
No, his victims were the ones who were screwed by the system. The ‘system’ failed to shut down dirty race pimps like jackson, sharpton, obama, and tens of thousands like them on campuses everywhere. The ‘system’ has encouraged black race hatred, disarmed their victims, and screams its vicious hatred of anyone who objects and points out where the problem really lies. The ‘system’ treats criminals, especially minority member criminals, like delicate crystal, and says the hell with victims. Which is what the ‘system’ of obama and his ilk, have been working so long and hard for.
gravenimage says
JTD–who I have never seen posting here before–wrote:
Oh, Please⌠This has Nothing to do with Muslim maniacs. This guyâs Koran-free. He just got screwed by the system and who-knows-what-else.
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He openly stated that he “identified” with JIhadists–why does JTD fail to have a problem with this?
And look what he considers “getting screwed by the system”–receiving a good education and working as a TV reporter. Oh, the humanity…sarc/off
And I linked to those non-racist “racist” comments that sent this homicidal creep “over the edge”.
More:
What he âidentifiesâ with is the fact that those dead guys got closure by âgetting back.â
Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Apparently JTD believes that murderous Jihadists and guys like Vester Flanagan “get closure” by murdering innocent people–and believes we should have no problem with this. *Ugh*.
Undaunted says
Tuesday is the 11th anniversary of the Beslan School Massacre. I’ve been working on a post at my blog that again encourages America and all decent and courageous people everywhere to prepare for such an attack where they live. Will post it on 1 Sep 15.
They say Beslan can’t happen here. They’re wrong. It only takes a slug like Flanagan to make a decision. And there are many more Flanagan’s out there than we can know.
Here’s my work posted on the 10th anniversary of Beslan:
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2014/09/still-crazy-after-all-these-years.html
underbed cat says
I feel sick, watching brief coverage of funeral and a speaker quotes Moh,,,,,, more delusion.
Cicero says
According to the Franklin County Sheriff’s office statement, Flanagan’s writings indicate that he “closely identified with individuals who have committed … the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.”
We know that ABC has chosen to publish only a portion of the 23 page statement that Flanagan faxed to them.
Most likely, the unpublished portions of the 23 page statement disclose in detail Flanagan’s adherence/allegiance to Islam and his aspiration to become a suicide jihadi.
In other words, we are looking at a (yet another) systematic cover-up of the Islamic angle of the story by ABC in coordination with law enforcement. Other media are as usual curiously incurious.
Baucent says
“Most likely, the unpublished portions of the 23 page statement disclose in detail Flanaganâs adherence/allegiance to Islam and his aspiration to become a suicide jihadi.” May be he really wanted to be a Fireman.
“Most likely” Ha,Ha, some of the folk on this forum are seeing “muslims and jihadist under every bed” I prefer to deal with facts not speculation.