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Surprised — But Not Really

Aug 3, 2015 10:36 am By Noor al-Amriki

I converted to Islam at the age of 18, on February 25, 2001 at the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City (ISGOC). (I left Islam in 2003 and went back to ISGOC as an informant for law enforcement from 2006 to 2011.) Before that, I had visited the mosque on numerous occasions to ask questions and to observe prayers. Around this time, I met a young African-American Muslim man named Ali, as well as his older brother Abdul-Tawab. The two were very devout in their faith as Muslims, and I saw them regularly at the mosque.

One day, as I was preparing to leave the mosque, I was standing in the tiled space outside of the carpeted area where you left your shoes before you went into the prayer area. I was talking to Saad Mohammed, the Director of Dawah (Islamic evangelism/outreach) at the ISGOC. While we were speaking, Ali passed us and went out the door with a big smile on his face. Saad Mohammed waited until the door shut and said to me, “There goes a young man excited about Islam.” Those words came back to me and sent chills up my spine last night.

I don’t know how I missed it (most likely because of work and school), but I found out just last night that Ali Muhammad Brown, the young man so excited about Islam, is now in custody facing terrorism charges. I was watching Fox News and saw that Greta Van Susteren was hosting a show on so-called Lone Wolf terrorists. I caught the program in progress, and the first picture I saw put up onto the screen was Ali Muhammad Brown’s.

I am not surprised by Ali’s actions, since I know what Islam truly teaches, as opposed to the smokescreen that many Muslim leaders feed the media. Ali was over at my house once and we were out on the porch joking around. I jokingly called him a punk, and he became very angry, because he stated that, “A punk is a faggot, and I am no faggot.” I apologized, and we did not speak much after that. Not too long after that incident, Ali and his brother left Oklahoma. I only spoke with Abdul-Tawab once by phone, while hanging out with some other converts (they called Abdul-Tawab to tell him that I was engaged to be married to a Pakistani woman in England. The marriage didn’t happen.)

To anyone in the media or law enforcement out there who wonders what his motive was, skeptical of his claims that it was because of his devout Muslim faith, I say to you I can testify that this is so. This man was devout and Islam was his life. I am in no way surprised he was willing to kill for it and provide material support for other jihadists. I offer my condolences to the victims of his jihad. I pray that the government and law enforcement agencies will wake up and quit believing this nonsense that jihadists practice some hijacked form of Islam. A simple reading of the Islamic texts will show them otherwise. However, as Robert Spencer has so awesomely stated, these people assume, wish, or hope that Islam is just like Judaism and Christianity and that the religion teaches peaceful coexistence with no jihad imperative. Ali Muhammad Brown and so many others are absolute proof, to those willing to see it, that this is completely false.

Note: Saad Mohammed, the Director of Dawah at ISGOC, was shown right before my interview on Megyn Kelly, denying access to the mosque leaders to Fox News. We once discussed what Imam Suhaib Webb told me about the three choices (conversion, subjugation, or death) to be offered to non-Muslims. Saad Mohammed agreed and stated that Muslims in the U.S. were on the first part, calling to Islam, at this point in time. This is Islam, not a radical form of Islam, but pure Quranic Islam as practiced by the Islamic prophet Muhammad himself.

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  1. ECAW says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 10:45 am

    Confused. The author writes as you would expect from an ex-Muslim yet he still has a Muslim name ???

    • cranky.white.woman says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 10:56 am

      Yes, I noticed that as well. Why would they stay with this “religion”if they think jihad is a very real and terrible part of it? I don’t get it.

      • Robert Spencer says

        Aug 3, 2015 at 11:05 am

        I know the author personally. He is an ex-Muslim who has left Islam and has written this under this name so as to protect his real identity. Apostates from Islam, as you may recall, are under a death sentence as per Sharia.

        • Marty says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 2:31 pm

          In the UK, the state actually supports with taxpayers’ cash muslim schools that
          peddle this evil dogma.
          It is worth remembering that, thanks to multiculturalism, (different laws/expectations
          for different groups) the problems of ex muslims are made worse.
          I have met excellent people in the UK who come from muslim backgrounds.
          The best wear Western clothes, speak standard English & join in all our pleasures,
          including drinking & liking music. The more timorous muslims would like to be like that, but arescared of the “community leaders” who terrorise local areas.
          The UK has officially about 4 million muslims + about 500,00 illegal immigrants.
          If we closed down muslim schools & dumped the community leaders, I reckon we’d have about 2 million devout muslims (who should quit our country) and an assortment of ex muslims who are as good citizens as any other immigrant group.
          Our politicians are terrified of islam, and as a result are encouraging terrorism & extremism at taxpayers’ expense.

        • Shane says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 4:37 pm

          This killer is one of many Black Americans who convert to Islam because they hate America and hate White people. His victims were White men, who are most hated by Black supremacists and their liberal allies.

        • Noor says

          Aug 5, 2015 at 3:17 pm

          Ali Brown was not racist against white people. His crimes were based solely on Islamic teachings.

        • bewick says

          Aug 7, 2015 at 4:54 am

          In response to Marty. A few years ago I had cause to deal with the UK “official figures” (UK) whilst working for a major public authority. “Ethnic minorities” (of all races and creeds) in our area were offically less than 2.5%. That didn’t match with what we were actually seeing “on the ground”. Local research quickly revealed that the true figure was over 4.2% and could well have been more.

          In the particular area even the official figures now suggest over 20% and this is 25 years later. So the “official” figure of 4 million muslims in the UK very likely means that there are at least 6.5 million and probably close to 8 million and hence well over 10% of the population and rising. Much the same applies to the illegals. If the Government believes that there may be 1/2 million then you can be fairly sure that there are at least 1m and most of those will be muslim. One has to wonder if the Government deliberately conspires to keep secret the true numbers.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 12:57 am

        “Noor Al-Amriki” means “Light of America”, and is probably more a nom de plume (as well as an in joke) than a regular Muslim name.

        • TheBuffster says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 1:31 pm

          Cool!

        • Noor says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 9:43 pm

          Actually, Noor means light and al-Amriki means The American. Noor is a pseudonym I chose before I did the media interviews with Fox News last year. Robert Spencer added the al-Amriki part before posting this article. A perfect addition to the pseudonym was using, I feel.

    • TheBuffster says

      Aug 4, 2015 at 1:03 pm

      I doubt that he’s writing under his real name. I mean, not only is he an apostate from Islam, but he’s also been a spy for law enforcement, having infiltrated ISGOC after he lost his faith. He would be an idiot to publish an article under his real name.

      • Noor says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 9:20 pm

        Indeed. Noor al-Amriki is merely a pseudonym I use for safety. It was never my real name or the Islamic one I used when I was a Muslim.

  2. Noor says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 10:56 am

    My Islamic name was never Noor. I use that name as a pseudonym now as a way to protect my identity.

    • Joseph says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 11:35 am

      @ Noor al-Amriki
      The only thing I can say to you is that you have made me happy that you have left Islam and that you have made my day. The world needs more people like you until and after this evil is under control. My prayers are with you that you will be protected and that you will achieve your goals in counter jihad.
      THANK-YOU once again.

      • Noor says

        Aug 3, 2015 at 4:03 pm

        I appreciate the support. But the real thanks should go to Robert Spencer. He is one of my heroes and is to be commended on his wonderful work to wake up Western Civilization to the threat of Islam.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 4:47 pm

          To Noor al-Amriki- I am so very happy that you are no longer what I call “a devout Muslim robot”. I congratulate you for being so brave. Mr. Robert Spencer is one of my heroes too, as he is a very brave man as well. I pray God’s richest blessings to you both. Stay safe.

        • jayell says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 6:04 am

          Hello Noor. So if you see so clearly now that Islam is such a threat, perhaps you could explain why you fell for it in the first place? From my own personal perspective, I was also subconsciously ‘looking for something or the other’ back in the early 1970’s, came across a ‘Divine Light Mission’ meeting (the infamous Guru Maharaj-ji lot) and they also seemed very enthusiastic and ‘excited’, but it hardly took five minutes to see that there was a total lack of substance in their ‘creed’ (whatever it was supposed to be) and many of the followers came across as wilfully deluded idiots. Then the scandal about the charlatan ‘Guru’, with all his money and big cars, came out in the press. But the scandal about this islamic charlatan ‘Prophet’ has been out of the bag for a lot longer. So why were you so easily swayed by the ‘excitement’ of a disciple from what must have been a clearly limited background and with no doubt equally limited and uneducated critical faculties? Sorry, Noor, but you have yet to impress me.

        • Noor says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 10:42 am

          For someone putting on an egotistical facade about how they are too smart to fall for Islam (or any other cult), you seem to have trouble reading. I didn’t fall for Islam because of Ali Muhammad Brown and never said I did in my article. I was 18 years old and at a time in my life where I was questioning the Catholic upbringing I had and all the beliefs that upraising entailed. I found strict monotheism very attractive and as there were few Orthodox Jews to learn from, Islam was the only option available. At least, that was what I thought at the time. I was barely an adult at the time, and it only took two years for me to learn how repulsive Islam truly is and then I left. I don’t care if I have failed to impress you, so good day to you. Fighting against jihad is not about you. Sorry to have to break that to you.

        • jayell says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 7:16 pm

          ‘Egotism’ doesn’t come into it, and I most certainly do NOT have trouble reading. Your article gives the clear impresssion that the apparent ‘excitement’ of a follower of this ‘faith’ with whom you came into contact was an initial factor in leading you subsequently to decide to take up this faith, and whether or not it was the final deciding factor, this person clearly seemed to make an important impression otherwise you would not have mentioned him. This is perfectly understandable. I would completely agree that monotheism is just about the only reasonable concept for belief in a Deity – I find the idea of a ‘cosmic committee’ governing the Universe vaguely ludicrous, but despite the unfortunate acquisitions from Roman and Greek mythology during the early centuries, I don’t think the Churches quite teach that. It would seem that my own position in investigating an ‘alternative philosophy’ was somewhat different to yours, in that I was still convinced enough about what I had already taken on board to be able to stand back and be objective about what I went along to witness. In this case, enthusiastic and ‘excited’ as the proponents of this particular faith were on this occasion, the shortcomings and lack of substance were (regretfully) very transparent. This may not have been quite the situation in your case. That does not, however, alter the basic premise that the adoption of a faith or belief system without thorough investigation of that system both in terms of its all its dogma and its practice – and ramifications thereof – remains unsatisfactory.

        • Noor says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 9:25 pm

          I never once stated nor implied that Ali’s excitement was a contributing factor to my conversion to Islam. This is merely your inference and that is your problem. I pointed out Ali’s excitement as being one of several reasons I knew he was devout in his faith. I don’t really care what you think of me nor do I care if you found fault with my decisions when I was barely 18 years old! As I am sure you are a god (or at least believe yourself one), I will add you next to Allah as deities I don’t worship. Good day.

      • voegelinian says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 12:23 pm

        “The world needs more people like you until and after this evil is under control.”

        It is exceedingly unlikely that the horrendous problem of Islam will be sufficiently reduced (let alone “solved”) by anything remotely approaching a critical mass of apostasy such as Noor’s.

        Being exceedingly unlikely, it is not only impractical to peg one’s hope on it, but may very well inculcate a false hope that could lead to disastrous policy (as has already happened, with the “Lewis Doctrine” pursued by both Bush and Obama). Given the unfolding train wreck of the disaster of Islam globally imploding (and taking down likely millions of non-Muslims in the process) while the West rearranges deck chairs on its Titanic hope for multiculturalism, we will be lucky if a few thousand Muslims jump ship to save their souls and join humanity.

        The Lewis Doctrine
        http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-lewis-doctrine.html

        • Joseph says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 10:11 pm

          @ voegelinian
          It is exceedingly unlikely that the horrendous problem of Islam will be sufficiently reduced (let alone “solved”) by anything remotely approaching a critical mass of apostasy such as Noor’s.
          ____________________________
          Yes there will come a time when it will be defeated or under control, to say otherwise is defeatism. If you don’t have a positive attitude about this then you have already lost and you might as well convert.
          I personally appreciate that Noor is on our side. He can give unique insight on the inner workings of Islam in the US AND he is one less person on their side. This is a small victory but it is still a victory.
          ____________________________________
          Being exceedingly unlikely, it is not only impractical to peg one’s hope on it, but may very well inculcate a false hope that could lead to disastrous policy

          I NEVER said I was pinning a victory on the hope of conversions/apostasy such as Noor’s.
          STOP putting words in my mouth

        • voegelinian says

          Aug 6, 2015 at 2:04 pm

          I didn’t put words in Joseph’s mouth; I reasonably inferred an implication in his statement (particularly since he didn’t include any way or a signal for a reader to be sure he wasn’t implying such a hope — a hope rather frequently expressed in the Counter-Jihad).

    • PRCS says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 8:43 pm

      I really enjoyed reading your article.

      I caught your appearance on Megyn Kelly’s program. Unlike your honest and straight shooting article here at JW, however, I was so frustrated that you didn’t correct her use of the phony PC phrase “radical Islam” that I wanted to throw things at the television.

      In my opinion, until knowledgeable people like yourself tell television personalities that term is factually wrong, they will continue to misinform the public.

      I hope you will consider doing so in the future.

      All the best to you.

      • PRCS says

        Aug 3, 2015 at 9:05 pm

        P.S.

        I wish Megyn Kelly would also invite another apostate to her program, as well: Brother Rachid.

      • Noor says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 2:38 am

        I too grow tired of hearing the term “radical Islam”. However, I hoped that by stating that the Islamic sources taught jihad I would expose Islam as the problem.

        • Noor says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 9:33 pm

          I am a Roman Catholic.

      • Noor says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 2:42 am

        I highly doubt that if we corrected them on using that term that they would stop using it. I explained to Sean Hannity on his show that the Islamic sources are out there for anyone read and they are the sources of jihad teaching. You could say I was correcting them in a way.

        • PRCS says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 3:40 am

          Thank you for your responses.

          I do believe that news personalities need to be told–bluntly–they are confusing a written ideology with the desire and ability of individual Muslims to either comply–or not, where that is possible.

          I note that Hannity now uses the phrase “radical Islamic terrorism”, wonders why Obama won’t call it that, and pronounces jihad with some sort of French accent. He definitely needs to hear the truth–up front.

          Vær trygg

        • Noor says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 8:06 am

          I wouldn’t know where to start in writing a book and I am not sure I would have enough to say to write one.

      • voegelinian says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 12:27 pm

        Yep. Even Megyn Kelly has the asymptotic twitch. And it’s not just the qualifier “radical”; there are many others (“extremist”, “Islamist”, “hardline”, “conservative”, “Salafist”, “Wahhabist”; etc.). The multitude of qualifiers and semantic padding the West uses to avoid talking about mainstream normative Islam — the Islam of all Muslims — is a way to remain Orwellian about this problem.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 4, 2015 at 7:18 pm

      You are a brave and principled man, Noor.

      • Noor says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 9:36 pm

        I try to be. The real man of principle is Robert Spencer. He is an example to us all of standing firm no matter the cost.

  3. somehistory says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 10:57 am

    Those who deny and lie will continue to deny and lie. satan doesn’t want his beast to be found out for the beast that it is and instructs his willing accomplices to lie as he lies.
    Has the writer left the cult of death about which he seems to realize is evil?

    • awake says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 11:14 am

      Did the author not explicitly state that he left Islam in 2003?

      • ECAW says

        Aug 3, 2015 at 11:19 am

        Ah, yes.

        Not awake.

        • Joseph says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 1:38 pm

          @ @ awake & ECAW
          Yes it should have been directed at somehistory.

      • Joseph says

        Aug 3, 2015 at 11:38 am

        @ awake & ECAW
        ” (I left Islam in 2003 and went back to ISGOC as an informant for law enforcement from 2006 to 2011.)”
        _______________________________

        He is on our side.

        • awake says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 12:42 pm

          And did I imply anything different? Was it not obvious by my comment that I was replying to “somehistory”, who either did not read, or misread the article?

        • Joseph says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 1:33 pm

          Sorry, my bad.

        • Joseph says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 1:39 pm

          @ @ awake & ECAW
          Yes it should have been directed at somehistory .

        • voegelinian says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 12:50 pm

          Noor is quite analogous to the numerous Germans who helped us with espionage during WW2, and during the Cold War, the numerous Communists who became ex-Communists and helped the FBI infiltrate the CPUSA (and no doubt there were counterparts in the UK and elsewhere in the West). This world war we are in involves a great deal of espionage — a tactic at which the enemy (Muslims, natch) continues to excel; in great part because of the stupidity of the West.

      • somehistory says

        Aug 3, 2015 at 2:52 pm

        Evidently, I didn’t see that line in the text. I have a lot of eye problems, and sometimes I do miss things when reading.
        My apologies to all whom I may have offended with my question. Esp the writer. It was not meant as an offensive question. Guess I was mislead also by the name being the islam one used.

        And….when I wrote my comment, it was second only to the one above….one other above mine…although now, it seems others posted before mine.

        So, again, apologies to all. It was just a question.

        • Noor says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 5:15 pm

          Don’t feel bad. You didn’t miss anything. I forgot to mention that I left Islam when the article was published this morning so I asked Robert to include the info about me leaving Islam so as to prevent further confusion. I was interviewed by Robert and later by Fox News last year and specifically mentioned leaving Islam during those interviews so I figured people would remember that but I guess not, lol.

        • somehistory says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 6:02 pm

          Thank you, Noor.
          I am so glad you cleared that for me. I do have eye problems due to a severe eye injury and retina detachment…sometimes can’t see much, other times see double. (Thankfully, I touch type or would not be able to comment)
          But, I thought I had read every word. It seemed to be written by someone who was no longer in, but I did have that question. Your response makes me feel better on several counts. Thank you.
          I’m sorry I missed your interviews. I’m sure they were most enlightening to those who truly wish to know the truth about islam. And I am very glad you left the cult behind you.

  4. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 11:19 am

    There goes a young man excited about Islam.

    When I was a young man I was excited about building a career and earning enough money to provide for a happy life. That was pretty much the whole deal for me, personal happiness. And that was attainable without taking from others, and indeed it was possible by contributing to others, by contributing to society as a whole.

    The source of excitement among young Moslem men is about another kind of personal happiness, and an altogether different kind of society. If you can call it that.

    Ultimately, for civilization to survive, Islam must be done away with. There can be no more Moslems; where they exist, there is unhappiness along with the sole prospect for that unhappiness to increase.

  5. jayell says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 11:24 am

    The big problem is that these people are spreading themselves around the West as students/migrants/refugees/ ‘asylum seekers’, etc., partly or largely because of the failings of Islam, but bringing their Islamic contagion with the them. And because they’ve all been indoctrinated/brainwashed with this arrogant supremacist crap they’re all full of it and full of themselves (‘excited’ as the writer nicely puts it).They won’t/can’t listen to any other point of view (and certainly won’t RESPECT it), so maybe some people politely listen to them – as one does – and maybe without one’s critical faculties properly engaged And thus the contamination spreads. The only way round this is to ‘immunise’ people over here in advance by telling them the truth about the ‘Religion of Peace’ so that few if any will be impressed by the newcomers’ ‘excitement’ when they arrive. and instead be prepared to put them right.

    • RonaldB says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 12:58 pm

      “The only way round this is to ‘immunise’ people over here in advance by telling them the truth about the ‘Religion of Peace’ ”

      A better way to handle Muslims who take their religion too seriously is to leave them (Muslims, no qualifier) in their country of origin. That trumps the question of whether they’ve been “immunized” to fervent Islam.

      There is no reason to import any Muslim under any circumstance, unless the Muslim has personally provided a critical service directly to the US military or security. There should be a very limited number of discretionary visas (say, 100 a year) for that purpose.

      • jayell says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 5:41 am

        “There is no reason to import any Muslim under any circumstance…” I really wish we in the UK could say that, but then we somehow we acquired this bl**dy empire (and, if you know your history, you’ll know that it wasn’t really out of any great ‘imperialistic zeal’ but more like our ‘Tesco’s’ – or your ‘Walmart’s’ – got their ’empires’). So we got shot of the Empire and tried to make a nice little ‘club’ out of it so everyone would be reasonably happy on their own patch, but a lot of the wretched ’empire’ seemed intent on following us back to our front door – and through it, even. And sadly, many of these are muslims who, apparently, we can’t legally get rid of (yet).

  6. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 11:28 am

    I pray that the government and law enforcement agencies will wake up and quit believing this nonsense that jihadists practice some hijacked form of Islam. A simple reading of the Islamic texts will show them otherwise.

    Unfortunately, almost nobody reads anymore, except for text messages and fantasy league stat sheets. And, those who do still read things of substance, read “in” to the text in hand what they wish to see there.

    Our news entertainers have collectively spent literally tens of thousands of hours of airtime talking about Islam and Moslems. Had they spent a tiny fraction of that time reading the Holy Ko-Ran and the Hah-Deaths, reading them honestly, the threat of Islam to civilization would be drastically reduced in a matter of days. The first reduction step would be to immediately halt all Moslem immigration and to deport those legal immigrants not yet sworn in as citizens. That would only be a small start, but it’d be a start. And there must be a reading for that start to… well, start.

    But no such reading will happen, with emphasis on the word will, for it is the lack of will that causes the ignorance and self-delusion to persist.

    • ECAW says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 12:20 pm

      So true. The thing I find most dispiriting about all this is that I can’t get people to actually read sites like JW and others, even those who understand that there is a problem. It’s as though they’re anaesthetised.

    • RonaldB says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 1:09 pm

      “Our news entertainers have collectively spent literally tens of thousands of hours of airtime talking about Islam and Moslems. Had they spent a tiny fraction of that time reading the Holy Ko-Ran…”

      I’m afraid your posting contradicts its own vision. I’m not accusing you of being illogical, but why would you expect news entertainers, whose job is to boost ratings, to be interested in the true nature of Islam…or anything else?

      The fact is, there are plenty of excellent reporters and news analysts available on the internet. They have their own blogs and they don’t make much money. Someone who is interested can easily find out the facts. A progressively higher proportion of the electorate, thanks to immigration from backwards countries, is uninterested in facts or logic at all, and may not have the slightest conception of what they mean.

      And yet, the low-budget blogs are having an effect, along with somewhat newsworthy stations like Fox. This is why you can look for a big push to put the content of the internet under government control in the last years of the Obama administration. Most likely, the push will be under the label of “net neutrality”.

  7. Don McKellar says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 11:29 am

    What a superb piece this is to read! Thank you very much for giving us this insight into the life and times of a muslim “Noor al-Amriki”. All the deception and lies dismissed by somebody who has lived it and broken away to breathe the fresh air of reality.

    Please ignore the retards and idiots who might comment on this comment thread. Some are well-meaning, but many are hopeless raving religious nutcases, and some are even covert muslims on their own form of internet jihad, thinking they are doing the “right thing”.

    If only we had more brave men speaking to truth like “Noor al-Amriki” shutting down the lunatic-level delusions of far too many, both left and right. Again, thank you.

    • Noor says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 pm

      I appreciate the support. But true thanks goes to Robert Spencer, a true hero in this fight for Western Civilization.

    • Linde Barrera says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 5:22 pm

      To Don McKellar- I enjoy reading your posts, regardless of what you think of mine, but I wish to comment on your 11:29 am, Aug. 3 post. You state: “Please ignore the retards and idiots who might comment…some are well meaning…many are hopeless, raving religious nutcases…” This makes me chuckle. Is this not a “free speech” site? Additionally, I adore Pamela Geller’s slogan: “In the battle between the civilized man and the savage man, side with the civilized man.” In my opinion, any civilization that had a spiritual being who taught love, kindness, mercy, and the right to inquiry at its core, is a good civilization. (Taking human and animal sacrifice does not qualify, and in fact there is a point in the Old Testament when the people are told “In is better to obey God than to sacrifice.”) So a new concept was given for the human mind and heart with this “edict”. And in the Gospel of John, Jesus Christ states “I and the Father are One.” When I showed that to my nice Muslim neighbors (originally from Uzbekistan) their reply was “One what?” So if I am a witness for Jesus Christ, does that bother you? Does that qualify me as a nutcase in your dictionary? Do you believe in yourself, to the exclusion of other deities or higher powers? I have no problem with agnostics or atheists, but I always thought they had an axe to grind with somebody! Lastly, Robert Spencer wrote a book (2007) entitled “A Religion of Peace? Why Christianity Is, and Islam Isn’t”. This sounds like a comparative theology book to me. But thanks to articles on Jihad Watch and it’s many knowledgeable commenters about Islam, I wouldn’t need to buy THAT book, because I have learned why Islam is not the “religion of peace”. I have ordered from Barnes and Noble “Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam is Subverting America without Guns or Bombs”. (I should get it tomorrow, Aug 4, and I am sure this book will teach me a few new facts.) I would like to get a response from you. Kind regards.

      • somehistory says

        Aug 3, 2015 at 6:13 pm

        Linde,
        Am not answering for Don…but I agree with you. I think he has me in the nutcase category. 🙂

        • Linde Barrera says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 9:29 pm

          To somehistory- Thank you! And btw, I think your comments are very insightful, whether you mention religion or not. Kind regards.

      • JIMJFOX says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 1:16 am

        “I have no problem with agnostics or atheists, but I always thought they had an axe to grind with somebody!”
        There it is!- the big ‘BUT’….

        Nut-cases? no, not really. Just people with the ability to compartmentalise their minds into ‘rational’ and ‘fantasy’ segments.
        1. ‘When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.
        When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion’
        2. ‘Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities’
        3. ‘The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exists; indeed, the passion is the measure of the holder’s lack of rational conviction.’
        — Bertrand Russell, Unpopular Essays “On the Value of Skepticism”

        Although an atheist I find the modern version of Protestantism tolerable; not so Catholicism [original sin- repulsive and ridiculous concept].
        ISLAM- well, there is SO much wrong that it’s hard to know where to start; ridiculous, idiotic, ludicrously false, violent, murderous, cruel, the cult of hatred and death. And that is trying to be fair and non-judgemental…

        • Linde Barrera says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 2:31 am

          To JIMJFOX- I did truly enjoy your 1:16 am post of Aug. 4, 2015, but you threw me a curve when you wrote: “Opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exist; indeed, the passion is the measure of the holder’s lack of rational conviction.” With every due respect to you, and Bertrand Russell, it is hard for me to agree with this because I have always given my passion to my chosen teaching profession, to my late husband, and to other aspects of my life. Example: If a parent wants his/her child to grow up to be a kind, educated, productive person in society, and puts a plan into action to achieve that aim, would you say that that passion “lacks rational conviction”? I hope not! And with respect to religion, historically more often than not, the leaders of the religions have jockeyed for power making it seem that the religion, any religion in question, was “all about who has the power”? Where Islam is presented, I believe many in Islam have a passion to kill or be killed. It is degrading and insane, but that is where their focus lies. And for reasons you mentioned, Islam can’t seriously be considered to be a religion that helps anyone, encourages inquiry, produces productivity or invites thinking in new ways to be progressive. I’m sure you have heard the expression “Charity begins at home”? Yet nobody can tell me why the fossil fuel rich Saudis and Iranians haven’t yet helped the Palestinians, by building livable apartment complexes instead of allowing the Palestinians to remain in refugee camps. I would like to hear from you again, JIMJFOX. Stay safe.

  8. Mahendra Singh says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    Congratulations on getting rid of the “fastest, etc,etc. Getting into it
    is easy- repeat the Shahada a few times, and presto! you
    are converted. As a penalty for getting out Islam buts bounty on the
    deserter’s head. So keep on with your pseudonym. Wish you happiness

    • particolor says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 10:11 pm

      In Memory of all those that Didn’t read the Contract before Converting ! 🙁 🙁 🙁

  9. jihad3tracker says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 12:14 pm

    ********* OFF-TOPIC —- THE LIES HUSSEIN OBAMA MAKES HIS PALS TELL *********

    Sourced at Pam Geller’s website — http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/dhs-chief-dont-call-it-islamic-extremism-because-it-doesnt-have-anything-to-do-with-islam.html/

    BETTER TAKE YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICINE BEFORE WATCHING THIS . . . DHS SECRETARY JEH JOHNSON.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 12:20 pm

      By the way (for PC-Wiindows users) sorry to write this, but there may be malware loading under some of Pam’s posts.

      If you get a “Microsoft driver support” page popping up, better to ignore it — and run whatever program you use to remove cookies, caches, etcetera.

      • Linde Barrera says

        Aug 3, 2015 at 3:54 pm

        To jihad3tracker- I’m getting “virus warnings” from The Times of Israel blog I follow.

        • jihad3tracker says

          Aug 3, 2015 at 4:39 pm

          Hello Linde — I am definitely no IT genius — maybe some readers here who DO have some expertise can post a comment about your T.O.I. situation. But even the best of Internet protection from major companies like McAfee, Avast, Symantec, and so on, cannot catch all the bad guys.

          And sometimes the website owner IS FOOLED INTO TAKING PAID “ADS” which seem to be legit but redirect to bad stuff. Extreme caution on clicking to any place you are not 100% sure about — is the best protection.

          One test of vulnerability that you and others here might find interesting is by Gibson Research Corporation — a bit old as current tests go, but free. It is at www dot grc dot com. Look for the one that probes all 1024 port addresses with a “ping”. Apology for not remembering the exact name.

          Also, the “virus warning” you see is likely from a fake site that actually infects computers whose owners are gullible enough to install and run executable files (.exe — file extension). Then is almost impossible to recover.

          One more excellent FREE tool to help remove truly nasty infections is by McAfee — “Stinger”. DOWNLOAD IT BEFORE YOU NEED IT ! ! ! ! Then remember where the shortcut is on your home screen.

          Stinger runs on start up (when you turn the computer on) and gets all the way into a boot sequence, where the most devastating viruses are. I’d be glad to hear of other resources, too, from readers here.

        • ECAW says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 2:39 am

          Thanks for those jihad3tracker – I’ll try them out.

          I use Advanced System Care to clean up every now and then. I wouldn’t know if it does any good but someone I know who does know about these things uses it.

          On the subject of things techie, I’ve been looking around for a new computer and see refurbished Dell all-in-ones advertised on Amazon for a snip. The main attraction is that they have Windows 7 so it would be possible to avoid the horrible Windows 8 (Windows 10 is more like 7 so I hear). Anyone know whether these refurbished computers are any good? Thanks.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 3:09 pm

          To ECAW- Thank you for your 2:39 am Aug 4 post about how you deal with techno problems. But, to be honest with you Ecaw, I am such a techno dunce, that when someone says “Go to Windows 8” it makes me think they are referring to the windows of my house! I will go to my Smartphone store and show the support person your advice. Thank you kindly.

        • jihad3tracker says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 3:25 am

          HELLO ECAW — No “reply” option below so I will do it here. BTW, don’t you ever go to bed ??? Neither do I . . .

          I’ve no idea about refurbished machines on Amazon —- but probably reliable. Just be sure to get an ironclad return policy. On the subject of Windows 10, I am dreading its release — my comp is comfortable running Windows 8, and has done so for however many years it has been out.

          THREE OTHER RESOURCES FOR HEALTHY AND HAPPY COMPUTERS AFTER BROWSING SESSIONS. All used by me personally for several years — and genuinely OK, IMHO.

          1. PIRIFORM MAKES “CCLEANER” WHICH IS TOTALLY FREE. It also has a registry cleaner and uninstall program. I use it after every internet browsing session, so cache files and cookies do not accumulate days at a time.

          2. SPYBOT SEARCH & DESTROY by Patrick Kolla is a classic for getting spyware out of your machine. Make sure you download it from Mr. Kolla’s very own site, however. There are many piggyback leeches that have captured the program and load up your machine with sh*t..

          3. “DEFRAGGLER” — spelled just like that — gets more deeply into sectors than Windows defragger does. A thorough pass of defraggling can take some time, but you end up with an OS (or flashdrives — it does those too) which are really pristine in their sector file sequencing.

          BTW, the Gibson Research Corporation tool for port vulnerability that I mentioned earlier is definitely NOT the most user friendly and tries to get you in an offhanded way to buy some old Gibson products. But it is interesting from a geeky perspective — really getting into the weeds of how nasty humans f*ck up computers.

        • ECAW says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 3:36 am

          Thanks jihad3tracker.

          Yes, I do go to bed. It’s morning here on the wrong side of the Atlantic (wrong because we’ve lost our counterfaith and we’re not allowed to play with guns. Nanny knows best!).

        • Linde Barrera says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 3:16 pm

          To jihad3tracker- As per your 3:25 am post of Aug. 4 regarding “Piriform”, “Spybot” and “Defragler” I will take my Smartphone to the store and show your post to the technical support person. When it comes to technology, I am a self proclaimed dunce. But thank you for your thoughtfulness in passing on the information.

        • duh_swami says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 9:13 am

          I have no virus-malware or firewall protection at all…Don’t need any…Windows 8 has a reinstall feature that lets you start all over like your computer was new. You have to externally save anything important, on a thumb drive…I have gone a year with no detectable problems…If things get screwy I just reinstall…However I do get, ‘your unprotected’, messages urging me to buy something for $39.95…I just click them off and proceed as usual…

        • Linde Barrera says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 3:25 pm

          To duh_swami- Thank you so much for your advice given on the 9:13 am post of Aug. 4, 2015. I will show your comment to my technical support person at my phone store. To show you how much of a techno dunce I am, I only learned last month how to take a photo on my Smartphone and send it to someone, having purchased said Smartphone on 01/02/2015. All good wishes, and I love your moniker, btw.

    • RonaldB says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 1:27 pm

      This guy reminds me of the admiral The Rt. Hon. Sir Joseph Porter, KCB, First Lord of the Admiralty in Gilbert and Sullivan’s HMS Pinafore.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLIyWcxPlEU

      Some relevant lyrics:

      Sir Joseph.
      When I was a lad I served a term
      As office boy to an Attorney’s firm.
      I cleaned the windows and I swept the floor,
      And I polished up the handle of the big front door.

      Chorus.
      He polished up the handle of the big front door.

      Sir Joseph.
      I polished up that handle so carefullee
      That now I am the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

      Chorus.
      He polished up that handle so carefullee,
      That now he is the ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

      Henry Lytton as Sir Joseph 1920
      Sir Joseph.
      As office boy I made such a mark
      That they gave me the post of a junior clerk.
      I served the writs with a smile so bland,
      And I copied all the letters in a big round hand.
      Chorus.
      He copied all the letters in a big round hand.

      Sir Joseph.
      I copied all the letters in a hand so free,
      That now I am the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

      More lyrics http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/gilbert_and_sullivan/when_i_was_a_lad-lyrics-446448.html#ixzz3hm2hUT32

      • jihad3tracker says

        Aug 3, 2015 at 2:01 pm

        Thank you for my first solid chuckle of the week . .

        BTW, my tiny bit of knowledge about those two geniuses of light comic opera: for a good part of their collaborative lives, they totally despised one another. I must look up the full details sometime soon.

  10. Angemon says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    A simple reading of the Islamic texts will show them otherwise.

    Assuming they don’t retract into denial mode – that was only meant to the people living back then, muhammad was only defending himself, etc.

  11. Cecilia Ellis says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    Noor, may God bless you and keep you safe. Perhaps more than any of us who now read your article, you are in a vanguard of many courageous individuals who risk death in order to present the truth about Islam, so much so that you must assume a pseudonym even in the United States. Thank you for being “the American light” that you are. I shall not forget you.

    • Noor says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 5:17 pm

      Thank you for the support. It is deeply appreciated.

  12. RG says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    Of course, most of the willfully blind moslems who read this post will scream “lies, lies”. That’s because they simply don’t have the true manhood (AND BRAINS) to get out of this DEATH CULT….

  13. mortimer says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    Noor al Amriki has a valid message for politicians: “these people assume, wish, or hope that Islam is just like Judaism and Christianity and that the religion teaches peaceful coexistence with no jihad imperative.”

    I hope some politicians heed his message.

    Real Islam is jihad.

  14. Jack Diamond says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    The mosque and Saad Muhammad should be investigated with a fine-tooth comb (and shouldn’t every mosque?) as should the reasons for Ali Muhammad Brown being in Oklahoma and then Washington State and anyone he was connected there and in New Jersey. And what of his older brother? They call him a lone wolf because he is not connected to a terrorist “group” when in fact he is connected to the largest terrorist group in the world, Islam/Muslims. He did try to hit on lots of things in his jihad, ambushing and killing unarmed infidels in return for America’s ‘war on Islam’, killing gays (“a punk is a faggot, and I am no faggot”), stealing infidel money to fund mujahideen, even sentenced to a year in jail for “communication with a minor for immoral purposes” (just conducting himself like his prophet….).

    “I pray that the government and law enforcement agencies will wake up and quit believing this nonsense that jihadists practice some hijacked form of Islam. A simple reading of the Islamic texts will show them otherwise.” Thank you for your testimony, Noor. It is very valuable.

    • Noor says

      Aug 3, 2015 at 5:18 pm

      Thank you for the support.

      • Jack Diamond says

        Aug 5, 2015 at 2:53 am

        Noor, the five years you spent working undercover for law enforcement, what initiated you being approached or did you approach them with certain information? Are you at liberty to speak of any arrests that were made or plots disrupted? Was there genuine understanding by anyone in law enforcement that you worked with concerning Islam, or were you frustrated by political correctness at every level?

        • Noor says

          Aug 5, 2015 at 8:33 am

          I can’t say much about my time as a CI. I apologize.

    • voegelinian says

      Aug 6, 2015 at 2:12 pm

      Random searches of mosques, randomly selected, regularly performed. A minimal safety measure that should be instituted, while we continue to indulge and promote and reinforce the insanity of allowing any Muslims at all to remain in the West.

  15. Beagle says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    “We once discussed what Imam Suhaib Webb told me about the three choices (conversion, subjugation, or death) to be offered to non-Muslims. Saad Mohammed agreed and stated that Muslims in the U.S. were on the first part, calling to Islam, at this point in time. This is Islam, not a radical form of Islam, but pure Quranic Islam as practiced by the Islamic prophet Muhammad himself.”
    — —
    This is a critical observation. I have note here many times that the ‘peaceful Islam’ lie promoted by all our major institutions is a huge catalyst in converting more and more people into the martyrdom cult of real Islam. Many think it is a harmless lie to spin Islam into something it is not. But in reality it aids recruiting into jihad and causes countless maimings and deaths.

    The media, law enforcement, educators, politicians, and even counterterrorism officials are actively recruiting more terrorists, sharia advocates, and Islamic supremacists every day.

  16. Daniel Degginger says

    Aug 3, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    Why is the Pope stating that Islam is the Religion of Peace. Christianity and Islam are diametrically opposed. Between his communist thinking on free enterprise and now this, I wonder how he was elected.

    • particolor says

      Aug 4, 2015 at 5:29 am

      White Smokes from the joints they were Enjoying in there. 🙂

  17. PJG says

    Aug 4, 2015 at 12:06 am

    Does the assumed name mean “Light of America”?

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Aug 4, 2015 at 12:25 am

      Noor means “light” and al-Amriki means “the American.”

      • Noor says

        Aug 4, 2015 at 8:03 am

        I had to choose a pseudonym before I appeared on Megyn Kelly’s show last year, so I chose Noor because I was attempting to shed light on the truth about Islam. My Islamic name was not Noor. I did have an Islamic name but of course I don’t use it anymore.

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Aug 4, 2015 at 1:04 pm

          Noor, your choice for a pseudonym is perfect! I noticed it immediately and understood it to have deep meaning not only for you, but for others as well. You honor truth, and for that reason, you have earned a special place in the hearts of those who hold dear the valiant efforts of those who risk all to reveal the inherent evil of Islamic ideology. Likewise, you have earned the wrath of those who manifest the core principles of that evil. For that reason, as I earlier said, I shall not forget you. Each day, my prayer for you will be that the Lord bless you and keep you safe. Remember, it is the Spirit of Truth Who guides you.

  18. duh_swami says

    Aug 4, 2015 at 9:32 am

    Noor… a man among men…not rare but scarce…thank you…
    The FOX’er’s are usually accurate, but not always precise.
    Hannity is an enigma…he knows quite a bit about Islam, and then says it has been hijacked…But like others who also say that, they never explain just exactly how…And it seems hard for him to say the name ‘Islam’ straight up without using the ‘R’ word. That other guy on ‘The Factor’, a no spin zone, is hopeless and clueless…

  19. duh_swami says

    Aug 4, 2015 at 9:54 am

    Over religiosity on JW…A little of that is Ok, and sometimes called for depending on article, but this is not a site dedicated to Christianity and its study…Some people are ‘in the spirit’ or maybe a frustrated preacher, and can’t help it, but most people don’t come to JW for a sermon and a lot of scripture.
    I don’t call this nut cases, but it is a little over enthusiastic.
    It maybe be their right and privilege to post, it is also mine to skip right over it…So, carry on…

    • Linde Barrera says

      Aug 4, 2015 at 3:41 pm

      To duh_swami- As per your 9:54 am post of Aug 4, regarding religiosity at Jihad Watch, I endeavor to say why I have posted about Jesus Christ. Many commenters here are atheists and agnostics, and that is ok with me because that is their choice and nobody can be or should be forced to believe in anything. But I do feel sad for them, because St. Paul says “The Gospel is nonsense to those who are perishing.” In my opinion, the Gospel was given to make humans more civilized. Another reason I post about Jesus is because I do not want any islamists who come to Jihad Watch with a warning like that of Haya a few months ago where she/he/it said something like “In another few years we will have more people on Earth and will take over, so you might as well convert to Islam now.” As a Christian, I will not be intimidated and I am not afraid. If I were captured by an islamist, I would prefer to be shot rather than cut up, but I have no control over that. So even if you don’t like or don’t agree with my explanation and intent here, I hope it made some sense to you. Take care duh_swami.

    • voegelinian says

      Aug 6, 2015 at 2:27 pm

      There are two types of dislike for what is sometimes termed “preaching”:

      1) a general, indiscriminate dislike of all preaching

      2) a dismay (or wry amusement) at the sectarian differences which preaching often entails.

      While #2 can be redeemed insofar as it shows how important the matter is for various individuals and groups, and how genuinely complex it can become as we work out our tension of existence in this vale of tears in a riddle, wrapped in an enigma, enfolded in a spicy burrito, it can also be overdone or done dysfunctionally or neurotically (not to mention pneumopathologically, as Eric Voegelin was fond of saying).

      • voegelinian says

        Aug 6, 2015 at 2:27 pm

        #2 being the sectarian differences, that is — not the dismay (or amusement) thereat.

  20. Cy Halothrin says

    Aug 4, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    I see a few people here attacking Noor for mistakes he made (ie converting to Islam), but personally I think he’s a brave man and deserves a thumbs up. Though I never converted to Islam, I too made plenty of mistakes in my life. At age 18, I was pretty naive, and faced with peer pressure to convert to a nutty religion, I could have done the same. That Noor recognized his mistake within two years and backed away, and now speaks out (at risk to himself) shows that he has gained considerable maturity and wisdom, and he deserves our praise.

    Congratulations Noor on surviving your brush with Islam, which easily could have ruined your life and those around you. I only hope that your words will help others to not fall for Mohammed’s death cult.

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