If we had a sane and responsible government, John Kerry or Joe Biden or Jeh Johnson or some other official who has assured us that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam would explain why young Muslims in far-off Indonesia think that it is the embodiment of authentic Islam, and what their strategy is for countering this phenomenon. Instead, they leave the chasm between their confident proclamations and reality to grow ever wider.
“Islamic State’s influence stretching thousands of miles to Indonesia,” by Jonathan Kaiman, Los Angeles Times, August 8, 2015 (thanks to Darcy):
When Rahmat and Afrian talk about Islamic State, their eyes widen, their speech slows, and their expressions soften into smiles.
The two friends, both 33, say they plan to join the Islamist militant group in Syria, 4,500 miles away from their middle-class homes in Medan, Indonesia’s fourth-largest city, as soon as they can save enough money to fund the trip.
“The Islamic State is like a dream come true for me and all Muslim people,” said Rahmat, a perfume trader wearing a Quicksilver T-shirt and a G-Shock watch, who, like many Indonesians, goes by one name. “Now is the time to return to Islamic glory, like we experienced in the old days.”
Southeast Asia is emerging as a new recruiting frontier for the Sunni Muslim extremist group that seized control of large portions of northern Syria and Iraq last year. Hundreds of Indonesians, at least 150 Malaysians, and even a few young men from Singapore have joined Islamic State, according to the best assessments of analysts in the region.
“I think support for ISIS is increasing,” said Sidney Jones, director of the Institute for the Jakarta-based Policy Analysis of Conflict think-tank, using an acronym for the group. At least 200 Indonesian citizens have traveled to the Middle East to join Islamic State, she said.
Others have pledged devotion to the group, which proclaimed itself a caliphate in June 2014….
Rahmat and Afrian have been busy preparing by viewing jihadist videos online, especially the slick, brutal execution videos that have become a cornerstone of Islamic State’s global propaganda push. They have also been doing push-ups, sit-ups and martial arts.Both say they plan to take their families with them. Afrian, a high school teacher, has a wife and a 2-month-old, and Rahmat has a wife and three children.
“My son will become a fighter too, inshahllah,” God willing, Rahmat said. “Once he asked me, ‘Dad, why don’t we go to Syria?’ I think he understands everything.”…
According to an Australian intelligence report obtained by news website The Intercept, two Indonesian commercial pilots have pledged devotion to Islamic State. Ridwan Agustin, a former AirAsia pilot, may have already traveled to Syria. The pilots “pose obvious threats,” the report says. “Their access and knowledge of security and safety regimes provides the ability to attempt attacks as witnessed by past global events.”
Rahmat and Afrian said they decided to join Islamic State in June 2014 after it released a video declaring a caliphate in Iraq and Syria. (Indonesian authorities have blocked the video; Rahmat says he first saw the contents on BBC and Al Jazeera.)
Rahmat said that law enforcement agents had not contacted him since he pledged devotion to the militant group in a small ceremony with fellow members of the Indonesian Muslim League. Afrian said that police had visited his house about 10 times to gather information, but did not threaten him with arrest.
“First they interrogated me about my views on sharia law,” he said. “Then, at the end, they also asked me about ISIS.”…
Both Rahmat and Afrian said that they had kept up to date on the group’s videos of beheadings, defenestrations and mass executions and fully support them.
“One verse in the holy Koran says we have to deter our enemy,” Afrian said. “The Islamic State is a state. It has territory, government, citizens, and laws. If you don’t want to get in trouble with the Islamic State, don’t go there.”
Rahmat said that he began thinking seriously about sharia law in 2000 in a Medan prison, where he was held for two years on drug charges. ” I met someone who taught me the Islamic way, knowledge, how to be faithful to the creator,” he said. “It was like being reborn.”
Alchaidar has known Afrian and Rahmat since 1999, and has interviewed them extensively.
“It’s very hard for me to understand why their beliefs changed from secular to very religious,” he said. “For me, it’s incomprehensible.” He said both seemed motivated mainly by ideology.
Rahmat said he hopes to become a martyr in the Middle East. Afrian said he dreams of eventually returning to Indonesia.
“Success, for me, would mean that all of Indonesia adopts sharia law,” Afrian said. “That’s the only way to avoid repressive actions by non-Muslims against Muslims.
“For Muslim people, there’s a quite famous proverb: Live in dignity, or die in jihad. If we die doing this, we will have won.”
Stephanie says
Dreamer_allah, e.g. Q5:33
July 2015: Islamic State (ISIS/L) Shooting
http://192.96.206.71/isis-shooting-syria.html
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john spielman says
islamic theology is a” perfect fit” for sociopaths and psychopaths as it allows sanctifies (makes holy) murder rape slavery stealing pedophilia and necrophilia
mortimer says
“When I examined the Koran and hadiths under my microscope, I came to the absolute conviction that it is impossible…impossible…for any human being to read the biography of Mohammed and believe in it, and then emerge a psychologically and mentally healthy person.” psychiatrist Dr. Wafa Sultan
RG says
Yeah, so tell me this–anybody…. Starting with Sura (verse) 2.23, and on through innumerable other passages, ad infinitum, the magnanimous “allah” begins referring to himself in the PLURAL form. Yeah, PLURAL form…for an alleged “god” who seemingly has no equals and definitely expressly has ‘NO SON’!!!!! Yeah…talk about total incredulity and idiocy!!!! Just ‘shows-ta-go-ya’ how dumbass this moh-ham-head really was!!!!! He couldn’t even get that right!!!!! P.S. I really would like to hear an explanation from some BRILLIANT imam or WHATEVER…..
Uncle Vladdi says
Great point!
*Allah is not “I AM” – Allah is “WE ARE (LEGION)!”*
dave says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosism
RG says
Not for nothin’, Steph, is it me? or, please tell me…. Que lengua hablast tu???? Abbreviated comments and links are beautiful–sometimes plain English–even better! NO OFFNS. INTND. THVM!!!!
duh_swami says
A dream for some of them, a nightmare for others…
particolor says
Dear Imam..
Please be a little more lenient next time ! It is a Pain in the Ass trying to tear Toilet paper off with one hand ! And I have lost My position on the Football team as Striker because of a Foot missing on the other side ! When all I said was :”Sometimes I wonder about that Allan !”
Thank You..
Muhammad.
Stephanie says
“Jihad is the HIGHEST LEVEL in Islam”
http://192.96.206.71/son-of-hamas-jihad-is-the-highest-level-in-islam.html
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Angemon says
You mean, like those Americans killed in American soil, Canadians killed in Canadian soil and Europeans killed in European soil after the caliph exhorted muslims to attack non-muslims in the US, Canada and Europe?
“Live in dignity, or die in jihad”. Meaning they can live the most unislamic life they can possibly think of, but they’re off the hook as long as they die in jihad.
BC says
Same deal applies in Christianity especially RC church, You can be a sinner all your life but if you beg forgiveness and acknowledge ‘god; on your death bed you are ‘saved’
Just shows what a load of BS it all is.
mortimer says
RADICAL JIHAD CHIC!
mortimer says
John Kerry or Joe Biden or Jeh Johnson … they all insult our intelligence.
We have studied Islam…they haven’t. They’re talking hot air.
RG says
Two more freakin’ schittheads!!!!! What else can ya say?????
Jay Boo says
First cousin marriage defects.
Linda Rivera says
“The Islamic State is like a dream come true for me and all Muslim people,” “Now is the time to return to Islamic glory, like we experienced in the old days.”
What Islamic glory is he referring to? He’s referring to the thousands of Yazidi and Christian girls captured for sex slaves and constantly gang raped and tortured.
He’s referring to the forced conversions, beheadings, mass barbaric murders, crucifixions and other satanic horrors.
These are the *people* our traitor leaders have massively colonised tiny Britain and our small European countries with. Polls in Britain and Europe show huge percentages of Muslims support ISIS.
One Muslim in Europe declared, “Muslims are proud of ISIS.”
The only way our people can be saved from the coming planned satanic horrors, is to deport all Muslims.
wayne says
We can look forward to this: As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States — Muslim 1.0% Australia — Muslim 1.5% Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
particolor says
A bloke just gave the recipe for Beer and Cheese Soup on the Talk Back Radio and then went on to Chirp about Gay Marriage !! 🙁 And then I Read This !! Who Stole the World ?? 🙁 🙁