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UK allows jihadi preacher to stay in country despite “extremist” views

Aug 9, 2015 2:51 pm By Robert Spencer

cameron-and-mayNot only is this jihadi allowed to remain in the UK, but he is living on benefits. My ban from entering the UK has become a staple of the Leftist/Islamic supremacist dossier of lies, distortions, and defamation on me, but this shows how hollow it is: the British government is reeling in terror of Islamic jihadists and is in full appeasement mode, allowing preachers of jihad murder to remain in the country and banning counter-jihadists. Being banned from shattered, staggering, subjugated, cowed, confused, capitulating dhimmi Britain is not the mark of shame that jihad enablers pretend it is; on the contrary, it is a badge of honor.

“Jihadi preacher linked to bin Laden allowed to stay in UK despite ‘extremist’ views,” by Robert Mendick and Robert Verkaik, Telegraph, August 9, 2015 (thanks to Anne Crockett):

The Yemeni-born imam has spent more than a decade fighting for UK citizenship in a case that has cost the British taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds in court bills.

The Telegraph is prevented from naming the preacher under protection given him by the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC).

The special court has ruled that the 50-year-old preacher – known in documents as FM – is not entitled to a British passport because of his extremist views and connections to bin Laden.

He has been detained between four and five times at British airports under terror laws and his home searched by Special Branch officers and ‘items’ seized. He frequently travels to Yemen, a known hotspot for al-Qaeda linked terrorist groups.

But incredibly, the Home Office cannot deport the imam, who preaches at a large mosque in the north of England, because it would be a breach of his human rights to do so.

The court case shows the problems facing Mr Cameron in tackling Islamist extremism. In his toughest speech yet on the issue last week, Mr Cameron launched a five-year plan to defeat home-grown extremism, which included countering the “warped” extremist ideology, and the journey to radicalisation.

Critics say that will be difficult if foreign-born hate preachers cannot be deported. A study, conducted by an anti-extremist think tank, has shown that 28 foreign-born convicted terrorists and suspects have used the Human Rights Act to prevent their expulsion from the UK because they come from countries such as Yemen, Algeria and Egypt where they would face torture or mistreatment on their return.

Under Article 3 of both the European Convention on Human Rights and the Human Rights Act, individuals are protected against torture and inhuman or degrading treatment.

SIAC has ruled that FM must not be given British nationality. The commission, made up of two senior judges and the former head of MI5 Sir Stephen Lander, agreed with the Home Office that the imam had preached extremist views and was not of ‘good character’ needed to become a UK citizen.

Theresa May, the Home Secretary, had blocked the imam’s bid for a UK passport in 2014, 11 years after he first made the application. Using ‘secret and reliable sources’, Mrs May decided that ever since FM’s arrival in Britain as long ago as 1995 he had visited ‘various mosques’ where he had “preached extremist Muslim and anti–western views”.

Mrs May concluded that “FM has been a supporter of jihad”. The SIAC judgment adds: “He has openly claimed a historic association with Osama Bin Laden and/or sympathy with him. The Secretary of State was therefore not satisfied, that on the balance of probabilities, FM was a good character.”

The preacher came to the UK in November 1995, applying for asylum a month later. He married in 1996 and has five children all born in Britain. He dropped his claim for asylum in 2003 when he was granted indefinite leave to remain and a year later began his decade long battle for citizenship. The Home Office denied the imam British nationality as long ago as 2006 and the legal battle has raged since then.

It is understood he has been living on benefits since coming to the UK and declared on his citizenship form in 2004 that he had no job and had never supported any “acts of terrorism”….

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  1. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    UK allows jihadi preacher to stay in country despite “extremist” views.

    In a phrase, this should read “UK allows jihadi preacher to stay in country despite normative views.

    The word “extremist” tricks the reader into the false belief that the views of the Jihadi preacher are at odds with Islamic teachings. Extreme compared to what? Ask that, and you’re forced to conclude that he is not extreme.

    • Shane says

      Aug 12, 2015 at 11:09 am

      This guy is a “Good Muslim” who is trying to emulate Muhammad as the Koran and Imams tell Muslims to do. We have got to start deporting these scumbags and taking away their citizenship.

  2. TediNeo98 says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    It will be a great day when this vermin and his ilk are wiped off the face of the earth. He can take all his hatred and love of death with him…there is no peace in islam – all lies.

  3. Karen says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Looks like Theresa May broke her long record, and did something sensible in this one instance.

    The learned imam has been living on benefits for 20 years with his wife and 5 children,……….ok, wonderful, he’s quite a man.

  4. Jan Aage Jeppersen says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    Yet another example of the decay of Western civilization.

    What lies behind this decay?

    A new theory by the Danish professor of psychology Helmuth Nyborg gives an answer: DOUBLE RELAXED DARWINIAN SELECTION.

    Let me quote the abstract of this peer reviewed article to outline the broad idea:

    “This article briefly describes Lynn’s view on what makes modern populations rise and fall. It then provides a demographic analysis of what happens to modern sub-fertile high-IQ Western populations when Internal Relaxation of Darwinian Selection (IRDS) combines with External Relaxation (ERDS, in the form of super-fertile low-IQ non-Western immigration) into Double Relaxation of Darwinian Selection (DRDS). The genotypic IQ decline will ruin the economic and social infrastructure needed for quality education, welfare, democracy and civilization. DRDS is currently unopposed politically, so existing fertility differentials may eventually lead to Western submission or civil resistance.”

    The article – The decay of Western civilization: Double relaxed Darwinian Selection – is available on the internet, and I highly recommend it.

    • RonaldB says

      Aug 9, 2015 at 5:10 pm

      If I may summarize the article:

      IQ is a genetic and heritable trait. A lower-IQ group will have lower IQ children. Neither improved health measures nor improved education will change this fact.

      Health measures designed to reduce death, particularly for pregnant women and children, actually degrade the population, as the dysfunctional traits such as the inability to have a natural childbirth, are no longer selected against. Similarly, with public health measures and public welfare, individuals who are physically and mentally incapable of normal functioning can not only survive, but procreate.

      Low-IQ individuals have a higher fertility rate than high-IQ individuals. Given the elimination of natural selection, an isolated population will experience a systematically lower IQ over years.

      Immigration will accelerate the process of IQ deterioration, as the low-IQ immigrants maintain their higher birth rate, flooding the country with low-IQ individuals.

      It seems that immigration is disastrous, but in fact, it merely accelerates a problem which is already present in modern, welfare society: the deterioration of the indigenous population.

      I’m going to add my own observations hereafter:

      The earlier eugenics movements recognized a lot of these trends, but depended on government coercion and involuntary measures to maintain the quality of the population. Furthermore, the eugenicists were not fully scientific, as they depended on junk science such as phrenology and used racial prejudice as a substitute for a fully scientific program.

      In my opinion, any solution to the internal deterioration of an isolated population will have to be private and flexible. One possibility is to reduce or eliminate government entitlements and allow private charities to dispense aid, setting their own conditions on the recipients: in other words, there might be a deal that a lower-IQ individual will be supported for life on the condition he voluntarily submits to sterilization. If he chooses to not be sterilized, he simply supports himself, if he can, or applies to another private charity, if he can.

      The government is responsible for maintaining the borders and excluding most, if not all, immigrants. This is not a private function. There is a case to be made for the benefits of controlled immigration. There may be a Darwinian selection among nations: the countries that get the control of immigration wrong might be at a disadvantage, or might go out of existence altogether.

      • Jan Aage Jeppersen says

        Aug 9, 2015 at 6:47 pm

        You summarize the article very well. Thank you.

        If we in the West don’t react politically to the new knowledge this theory supply our civilization is doomed.

        Islam is of course a problem but underlying this problem is a deeper one: All Muslim countries are characterised as having a low average IQ, ranging from IQ 71 in Sudan to IQ 90 in Turkey. The US with an average IQ of 98 is on level with European democracies. It seems that democracy is impossible to achieve and maintain if the IQ gets below 90. So the implications are indeed serious.

        Before entering a discussion about what should be done politically to avoid the collapse of our civilization I will quote from the closing chapter of the article:

        “The damage implies that even if fertile low-OQ non-Western Immigrants are the ultimate winners in the third DRDS demographic transition, they will conquer a lesser country. Danish average IQ will, for example, then have approached 90, or perhaps even be close to the projected mean immigrant of IQ 86. An intellectual corrosion this size will have undermined the economic and educational infra-structure of DK, and ultimately made its democracy unsustainable. Another factor is the increased frequency of partly heritable antidemocratic attitudes, authoritarian culture, and dogmatic religious preferences, traits often seen in low IQ-countries (e.g. Lynn et al., 2009; Nyborg, 2009; Vanhanen, 2009).

        All this would seriously challenge the characteristic social coherence and solidarity of the Danish tribe. Tragically, the third demographic transition may also simultaneously damage the countries of origin, due to brain drain. In short. DRDS may increasingly doom modern countries, harm developing countries, and has nothing to do with racism or nationalism.”

        So if the mass immigration to Europe continues we may expect a further drop in the average IQ of the countries in the Middle East they leave behind thus giving rise to a more dogmatic and radical Islam and Islamism. To stop this development a total ban on Muslim immigration seems necessary. The 30 or so millions of Muslims already in the EU may partly explain the surge in jihadism and Islamism in Muslim countries in general and the Middle East in particular.

  5. jayell says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    “Not only is this jihadi allowed to remain in the UK, but he is living on benefits. My ban from entering the UK has become a staple of the Leftist/Islamic supremacist dossier of lies, distortions, and defamation on me, but this shows how hollow it is:…”

    You are so RIGHT. Mr Spencer, but it’s patently obvious that we’re dealing with stupid, iuprincipled idiots here, so please don’t take this sort of rubbish to heart. This jihadi joker is sponging off the UK taxpayer, I am a UK taxpayer, so that makes me sore as well. The Anjem Choudhary idiot has also been sponging of the taxpayer for years (and he’s got board and lodgings now, courtesy of the HM Prison service), which hardly makes one feel any better. And something like 62.5% of all muslims in the UK are also enjoying life here in the UK thanks in part to MY generosity, and that really makes me feel good. Not.

    Just ignore our government. They don’t speak for the British people. But they’re saving you the airline fare.

  6. mortimer says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 3:49 pm

    British thinking is backwards and upside-down! They exclude the solution (à la Spencer-and-Geller who preach AGAINST jihad) and they INCREASE the PROBLEM (in the form of this Yemeni-born Al Qaeda supporter who preaches in FAVOR OF JIHAD!)

    How can the British people be more wrong? Nurturing those who wish to destroy the British people and their culture will not benefit the British people.

    • RonaldB says

      Aug 9, 2015 at 4:22 pm

      The problem is a bit more complex.

      “Under Article 3 of both the European Convention on Human Rights and the Human Rights Act, individuals are protected against torture and inhuman or degrading treatment.”

      Britain, like other European countries, has surrendered its sovereignty to a supra-national European body which has no particular interest in protecting European culture or the security of European citizens.

      Britain should unilaterally declare that it does not recognize the jurisdiction of these and similar bodies, and any representatives of these organizations will be persona non gratis and denied entry into Britain.

      • kay says

        Aug 10, 2015 at 7:34 am

        Yes.

        But. the law was meant to protect noncombatant refugees, NOT psychopaths who threaten society. No society should be forced to shelter and protect those who actively seek to destroy the society they enter. That legal “requirement” is failure to protect society and human rights, not functional human rights protection. It’s contrary to the whole purpose of law.
        Time for Euroskepticism.
        Britain has a right to defend itself against the criminally insane and their conspiracies. The only way to do that is to remove non-citizen bad guys and revoke citizenship for bad guy citizens. As they do in France.
        This Islamofascist should be quite welcome in Islamic State.
        Drop him off over Raqqa by pushing him out the back of a high-flying cargo plane with a parachute. Or better yet, without the parachute.
        That tosser Cameron and TheresaM still don’t get it. They have the right and the responsibility to protect British society.
        The Brits couldn’t even protect the little girls in Rotherham or Oxfordshire.
        This is completely ridiculous. All they have to do is arrest him, try him for treason, and throw him in prison for life. That’s easy!

        http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/oct/17/treason-act-facts-british-extremists-iraq-syria-isis
        The Treason Act is one of the earliest statutes still in force today – albeit with significant amendments.
        The last time it was used in the UK was in 1945, to prosecute William Joyce, or Lord Haw-Haw, a Nazi propagandist who had aided and assisted Germany during the second world war by:
        “Broadcasting to the subjects of our Lord the King propaganda on behalf of the said enemies of our Lord the King.”
        However, since the 1998 Crime and Disorder Act became law, the maximum sentence for treason in the UK is life imprisonment.

  7. Stephanie says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    (pic) Dumb & Dumber

    http://192.96.206.71/reza-aslan.html

  8. Nazael says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    And thus I clothe my naked villany
    With odd old ends stol’n out of holy writ,
    And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.

  9. Angemon says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    Under Article 3 of both the European Convention on Human Rights and the Human Rights Act, individuals are protected against torture and inhuman or degrading treatment.

    That’s a fuzzy umbrella term…

  10. Judi says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    This so-called Human Rights Act was the worst law ever passed in the UK.There has been talk for several years about repealing it, but so far it’s all talk and no action.

  11. Baucent says

    Aug 9, 2015 at 8:16 pm

    No doubt he is living in the lap of luxury as well with benefits paid for 5 children.

    But here’s the problem; The European convention on Human Rights is imposed on all EU states and so overrides the local laws national governments set. It’s like the meddling that the UN gets up to.

  12. Matthieu Baudin says

    Aug 10, 2015 at 12:15 am

    The sooner a voice of sanity, in the form of Robert Spencer, is allowed to travel to the U.K. to mix and converse as a free man of ideas; the sooner Britain and it’s continental neighbours can start to climb out of the very confused conflict in which they find themselves.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Aug 10, 2015 at 6:12 am

      Matthieu, maybe Robert could get into the UK easily if he just temporarily presented himself as Haq al-Amriki (American Truth). He, of course, would have to throw the name Muhammad somewhere in there…

  13. Paladin says

    Aug 10, 2015 at 2:22 am

    When you preach ‘tolerance’ you find that you’ve dogmatically locked yourself down to tolerate anything; even the intolerant and the intolerable fascism of Islam. I keep reading these articles from the UK and wonder when the populace will rise up and demand their country back but, alas, it never happens. The 5 welfare babies this human fecal sample has cursed the British taxpayer with will grow and spawn an even more virulent strain of the filthy death cult of islam on the supine, dhimmi British public. Unless there is a radical sea change, Britain will be over in 20 years.

    • TediNeo98 says

      Aug 10, 2015 at 7:31 am

      Well put Paladin; however I do feel that an uprising is in our future, as the local British populace get more and more fed up with muslims playing the victim card and then quietly supporting the building of the caliphate in the UK…they are in for a surprise if they think we will go quietly.

  14. Paul says

    Aug 11, 2015 at 7:24 am

    “UK allows jihadi preacher to stay in country despite “extremist” views”.
    More like “UK allows jihadi preacher to stay in country precisely because
    of “extremist” views”. All talk of supposed naivety should be completely
    obsolete by now. The powers that be are 100% complicit. Simple as that.

    • Paul says

      Aug 11, 2015 at 7:25 am

      “The powers that be…”

  15. ENDZOG says

    Aug 13, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    UK ANTI-NAZI EXTREMIST BILL BRITISH NATIONALIST RESPONSE:

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