May said: “In the not-too-distant future we will be launching an anti-extremism, counter-extremism strategy as a Government. That will be looking across the board at all forms of extremism – yes, Islamist extremism, but also neo-Nazi extremism.”
There is a global threat from Islamic jihadists, and a very severe jihad threat within Britain itself. To equate this with a minuscule threat from a handful of neo-Nazi nutjobs (who should, of course, be combated in any case, however much she exaggerates the threat they pose) shows how deeply May and the entire Cameron government are beholden to Islamic supremacists who will pillory the government as “racist,” “bigoted” and “Islamophobic” if it speaks too forthrightly and honestly about the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat.
Of course, May is not just speaking about real neo-Nazis. She also almost certainly is lumping in all opponents of jihad terror that she and her government consider to be “right-wing” with neo-Nazis, and in that she has behind her a series of libels from groups such as the hard-Left Hope Not Hate and the Communist anti-Semite Maryam Namazie’s One Law For All to abet and appear to buttress this mischaracterization. May and her government have ruled all honest discussion about how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and supremacism out of the bounds of acceptable discourse, and put in the place of that honest discussion the prevailing fantasies about how Islam is a Religion of Peace and groups such as the Islamic State are not Islamic.
She is, in other words, smearing an honest and realistic response to the jihad threat as “neo-Nazi” and enforcing falsehoods about “Islamist extremism” that will hamstring, and ultimately doom to failure, her government’s attempts to combat it.
Future generations of free Britons, if there are any, will condemn her and her boss Cameron as naive fantasists whose draconian measures against counter-jihadists and blind eye to jihad activity within Britain (except in the most egregious cases) doomed Britain to years of bloodshed and chaos.
“Extremism ‘threat to UK way of life’, says Theresa May,” Herald Scotland, August 25, 2015:
Extremism is a threat to the British way of life and must be tackled head-on, the Home Secretary has said.
Theresa May said extremists were united in “trying to divide communities” and it was up to both communities and the Government to challenge their message.
She also stressed the forthcoming counter-extremism strategy already announced by the Prime Minister for this autumn would deal with all strains of extremism, from “Islamist” to “neo-Nazi”.
Mrs May was speaking as she visited Birmingham, which in recent years has witnessed its share of anti-Islamist terror plots and the murder of a Muslim pensioner at the hands of a far-right extremist.
The Home Secretary was meeting city community workers and volunteers who have been tackling extremism, racism and wider issues including domestic violence.
Speaking after the visit in the city’s Digbeth area, a historic melting pot of cultures, she praised the “fantastic work” being done.
She said tackling extremism was a challenge the Government was “facing up to”, but that it required the help of the public also.
Mrs May added: “In the not-too-distant future we will be launching an anti-extremism, counter-extremism strategy as a Government.
“That will be looking across the board at all forms of extremism – yes, Islamist extremism, but also neo-Nazi extremism.
“What they have in common is trying to challenge the values we share in our pluralistic society and trying to divide our communities.
“The work I’ve seen today is groups across the board dealing with that, dealing with countering that message of hate, that message of division and bringing people together.”
She went on: “I think it is important the Government is bringing forward this counter-extremism strategy.
“I think it shows the importance of this issue.”…
KrazyKafir says
“Islamist extremism” and “neo-Nazi extremism”
Translation = We intend to fight against “Islamic extremism” and those who “point it out”.
Don McKellar says
Well, any rise of neo-Nazis is actually directly related to the rise of Islamic supremacists. The more the government of Britain coddles and promotes and imports blood-thirsty jihadis who, in gratitude, blow up, shoot down, and behead white Britons in the name of Islam, there will be a mirroring growth in neo-Nazis as a response out of desperation and anger not properly directed. The neo-Nazi movement will grow as a result of the British government’s insane, self-destructive policy of multi-culturalism continues despite the fatal flaw being the elephant in the room: Islam. And, in their continued denial and delusion, the British government will pour millions into rooting out neo-Nazis, while doggedly denying the truth about Islam which PREACHES ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME THING!
Huck Folder says
She’s not saying how resources will be divided.
My bet is 10% to ‘tackle’ islamism, with touchy feely emphasis,
and 90% for a violent frontal assault on any indigenous BRITISH
individual or group who DARE to even show the flag of the Union
(“The Union Jack”), or REAL English person who has the temerity
to display the flag of St. George, even on St. George’s Day.
Lia Wissing says
Is the lady coming awake?
Babs says
No. She’s being put in a position where even she cannot ignore what is going on and what drives it.
She and her government have been criminally negligent about the dangers to the people of the UK from the Islam they have been cosying up to, and given what is written here http://standforpeace.org.uk/islamist-charity-organises-extremist-event-weeks-after-censure-by-charity-commission/ she has learned not a thing, in spite of her fine words and promises
And the chickens are coming home to roost as all of us knew they would.
And these enemies of humanity and decency are aided and abetted by the likes of this wretch http://standforpeace.org.uk/tom-owolade-corbyns-supporters-should-be-honest/
ich says
you barely hear a thing about neo Nazism
And YES they are complete idiots too. All 20 of them ( sarcasm )
Now back to the millions of real muslims.
The ones who follow the real muhammed.
Dan says
Those were my exact first thoughts.
What neo-Nazis?
They’re as abundant, and about as much of a problem as any bunch of thug bigot idiots we have.
And the police can largely handle them.
Islamists however, are overrunning any law enforcement that confronts.
Forgive my mixing metaphors here, but talk about comparing a mountain to a mole hill.
Mr Upside Down says
don’t be so harsh on us Brits….the Government is CONSERVATIVE that means they are dedicated to conserving the status quo..the great history we have the monarcy parliment….yes British values…
THEY KNOW THE SCORE…they see what we see
but as governors must maintain equality for all..fair play..law and order..
there is no problem with other ethinc groups,we mean what we say
a socity that LIVES AND LETS LIVE ….side by side
i believe and know they want to tackle this evil like we ALL do…
SO to do so….they must have a counter balance ..ie the neo-nazis…
because if they just came out with…..we will tackle extreamist Islam there would be cries of unfair..persecution
so its RIGHT TO SAY….YES ISLAMIC EXTREAMIST AND IN THE SAME SENTANCE NEO-NAZIS……BOTH WORTHY OF THE SAME TITLE BOTH EVIL AND OBNOXOUS…
Western Canadian says
Just because the current crop of political whores have taken over the label ‘conservative’, doesn’t mean that they actually are conservative….. ignore the words, and watch the behaviour.
Huck Folder says
Seconded. In Canada, I’ve NEVER seen a right-wing flyer
or pole spam, NEVER. I’m guessing that there are 20-100
active ‘members’ of such groups, forming 5-10 ‘groups’,
which may have only a leader, and no followers, or
followers are members of a number of groups.
They may have 1-5,000 readers who are
mostly rabid antisemites.
But the ENTITLED left/far-left/socialists
absolutely smother neighborhoods
with thousands of pole spam garbage,
have regular hate-in rallies against
the US/Canada?Israel and frenetically
carry water for islam and jihad.
Such groups as No One Is Illegal –
who DEMAND the destruction of ALL borders
and the absolutely free flow of ‘migrats’.
That group would be VERY popular
in certain overrun European countries!
Another is Mobilization Against War
and Occupation, about 30-50 zombies
brainwashed by fake ‘refugee’ Ali Yerevani,
a Lenin clone of the Iranian Tudeh party
which enabled the return of butcher Khomeini,
and were butchered for their troubles.
That parasite is now in his milieu, in an
antisemitic Trade Union (aren’t they all?).
His group was (is?) the most prolific pole spammer,
and they have posted several thousand posters
on some occasions, and in hundreds of occasions,
mostly illegally. They are ALLOWED to do that with
impunity, especially by socialist Mayor Derek
‘Jabba the Hutt’ Corrigan.
At one time, City of Vancouver Councillor Tim Louis,
a rabid supporter of MAWO, appeared on thousands
of illegally pasted posters as a ‘guest’ speaker for MAWO.
So? the City has a bylaw AGAINST pole spam.
Run with the hare, hunt with the hounds.
Oh the hypocrisy of it all.
ONCE, in my thirty odd years here, there was a rumor,
that (gasp) ‘neo-nazis’ were meeting at a rail station.
I don’t know if any posters were put up for that.
Immediately, Canada’s equivalent of Antifa FASCISTS,
about fifty of them (from the above mentioned groups
and others) SWARMED that station looking to kill.
No ‘neo-nazis’ showed, but two passing skin-heads
were set upon and beaten by those ‘upholders
of peace.’
You can’t make this stuff up.
It’s not at ‘1984’ yet,
but it’s headed that way!
Huck Folder says
“…free flow of ‘migrats’.”
“migrants”
Or just leave it, as is.
john spielman says
The UK govt plans to fight ” ISLAMIC EXTREMISM AND neo-NAZI EXTREMISM”- does that mean that ordinary naziism is OK? (just like ordinary islam)?
PRCS says
Re: ordinary Islam.
Which is, of course, the true issue; the issue being obfuscated by the usual red herrings: “radical Islam”, Islamic extremism”, etc.
I have no doubt that Cameron, May and the like (and our own politicians) know full well the truth they–that Islam commands Allah’s every slave to comply–or else.
It should be so easy for them to ask Muslim–wherever on the planet is the amputation of a thief’s hands orally acceptable to them.
If, as their Muslim constituents constantly decry violence and barbarity–and the “perversion” of Islam– why should such questioning so intimidate Cameron and May?
But, as they undoubtedly know what the truth is, and how potentially politically explosive doing so would likely be, they are just too terrified to challenge Muslims to explain the Qur’an’s true, actual texts.
Michael Copeland says
The UK government have defined what they understand by “extremism”.
Like a glove, it neatly fits Islam, that is, ordinary basic Islam.
As Tony Blair said, “There is a problem within Islam”.
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6183-extremism-there-is-a-problem-within-islam
Jay Boo says
The “Also bad” meme
Theresa May is groping about in a desperate search to find another hand that will also fit the glove.
Mr Upside Down says
Michael I READ THIS from Tony Blair when it first came out..i thought a master piece of insight….
Jay Boo says
Muslim groups like to claim that we want to deport them merely because of the way they “look” because of our racist bigotry.
This is to take all the focus off the inherent filth and stink of their “No god but Allah” beast. Ever since the Serpent of Satan uttered his first satanic double-speak verses. Muzzies have been trying to con us.
Michael Copeland says
“Extremism is vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs. We also include in our definition of extremism calls for the death of members of our armed forces, whether in this country or overseas.”
UK Government,
“Prevent” strategy, a free download.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/97976/prevent-strategy-review.pdf
zulu says
OT — Jihad Watch readers, check this out!!
Ezra Levant video: “No infidels allowed”: Disabled man denied subsidized housing because he’s not Muslim
http://www.therebel.media/_no_infidels_allowed
Toronto man denied subsidized housing for not being Muslim
http://globalnews.ca/news/2185359/toronto-man-denied-subsidized-housing-for-not-being-muslim/
john spielman says
wow! Toronto must be sued and the person that worked for the city who signed that contract -FIRED!!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Say, this site The Rebel is a nice find.
Huck Folder says
Absolutely.
And Ezra Levant has fought the good fight
not only against islam, but their paid lackeys –
the ‘Human Rights’ INDUSTRY; where they
make up the laws as they go on, they are
professional cats-paws for the ‘complainant’,
and THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT.
Oh how they WHINE when they hear themselves
described as a STAR CHAMBER.
USELESS, good-for-nothings. SINISLAM.
I would definitely encourage all readers,
and especially Canadians to read The Rebel.
PRCS says
How is such a contract possible?
Is the city lawfully required to comply with provincial and national law–or not?
If the answer is no, why not?
If the answer is yes, but are not complying, what gives?
Even worse, if they are required–and are complying–Oh, Canada.
RonaldB says
What’s even more interesting is that the contract doesn’t specify just any old Muslim: they have to be Ahmadiyya Muslim, the “peaceful” Muslim sect that claims Islam is not violent.
Truthfully, I think communities ought to be able to pick and choose members on the basis of creed, religion, or race, or anything else they choose. And yes, I think living complexes should be all white if they can work out the financial details…
But, this is subsidized housing, which is a different ball of wax altogether. In the US, it would be strictly illegal for government funds to be used to promote a single-religion complex. It’s part of our first-amendment heritage. Also, in 1948, the Supreme Court declared that US courts would no longer enforce housing deeds which specified the exclusion of race, the so-called “restricted covenants”..also part of our heritage. The government rightly ought not to be involved in segregation by religion or race.
But, it ought not to be illegal for a privately-owned complex to rent exclusively to members of a particular race, religion, or community.
In brief, I have a certain sympathy to the Ahmadiyyas for wanting to maintain exclusion of others, particularly other Muslims. But, they have to do it on their own dime, and not as subsidized housing.
kay says
‘It’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion,” Hitler complained to his pet architect Albert Speer. “Why did it have to be Christianity, with its meekness and flabbiness?” Islam was a Männerreligion—a “religion of men”—and hygienic too.
“The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I admire is the Prophet Muhammad.”
— Adolph Hitler, quoted by Ahmed Huber; Kevin Coogan, “The mysterious Achmed Huber: Friend to Hitler”
“When one thinks of mass murder, Hitler comes to mind. If not Hitler, then Tojo, Stalin, or Mao. Credit is given to the 20th-century totalitarians as the worst species of tyranny to have ever arisen. However, the alarming truth is that Islam has killed more than any of these, and may surpass all of them combined in numbers and cruelty.”
From The Greatest Murder Machine in History, By Mike Konrad, AmericanThinker 2014
Raja says
Kay,
Excellent analysis..
kay says
🙂 Raja.
The real analysis comes from Dr. Andrew Bostom’s books and Dr Bill Warner’s videos and pdf files at
PoliticalIslam.com
And ibn Warraq. Please propagate these. This is real counter-jihad.
Ibn Warraq:
The world is divided into two spheres, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb. The latter, the Land of Warfare, is a country belonging to infidels which has not been subdued by Islam. The Dar al-Harb becomes the Dar-al Islam, the Land of Islam, upon the promulgation of the edicts of Islam.
Thus the totalitarian nature of Islam is nowhere more apparent than in the concept of Jihad, the Holy War, whose ultimate aim is to conquer the entire world and submit it to the one true faith, to the law of Allah…
“Ah, but you are confusing Islam with Islamic fundamentalism. The Real Islam has nothing to do with violence,” apologists of Islam argue.
There may be moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate…at most there is a difference of degree but not of kind.
All the tenets of Islamic fundamentalism are derived from the Qur’an, the Sunna, and the Hadith – Islamic fundamentalism is a totalitarian construct derived by Muslim jurists from the fundamental and defining texts of Islam. The fundamentalists, with greater logic and coherence than so-called moderate or liberal Muslims, have made Islam the basis of a radical utopian ideology that aims to replace capitalism and democracy…
Islamism accounts for the anti-American hatred to be found in places far from the Arab-Israeli conflict, like Nigeria and Afghanistan, demonstrating that the Middle East conflict cannot legitimately be used to explain this phenomenon called Islamism…
Islamic fundamentalists recruit among Muslim populations, they appeal to Islamic religious symbols, and they motivate their recruits with Islamic doctrine derived from the Qur’an. Economic poverty alone cannot explain the phenomenon of Islamism. Poverty in Brazil or Mexico has not resulted in Christian fundamentalist acts of international terror.
Islamists are against what they see as western materialism itself. Their choice is clear: Islam or jahiliyya. The latter term is redefined to mean modern-style jahiliyya of modern, democratic, industrialised societies of Europe and America, where man is under the dominion of man rather than Allah.
They totally reject the values of the West, which they feel are poisoning Islamic culture. So, it is not just a question of economics, but of an entirely different worldview, which they wish to impose on the whole world.
Sayyid Qutb, the very influential Egyptian Muslim thinker, said that “dominion should be reverted to Allah alone, namely to Islam, that holistic system He conferred upon men. An all-out offensive, a jihad, should be waged against modernity so that this moral rearmament could take place. The ultimate objective is to re-establish the Kingdom of Allah upon earth…”
http://ibnwarraq.com/statement-by-ibn-warraq-on-the-world-trade-center-atrocity/
Papa Whiskey says
All hail INGSOC and Minitrue! George Orwell knew his countrymen well, it seems.
mortimer says
Theresa May’s ideas would put Winston Churchill in jail for criticizing Islamic fanaticism!
PRCS says
And, at least temporarily, Paul Weston was taken into custody for quoting Churchill a few months back.
Marty says
In the UK I doubt if there are 2,000 Neo Nazis & few of them are open
with their views or hold rallies.
However, persons of a very similar mindset are numbered in their
millions & are even given their own taxpayer funded schools.
The KK is banned here (fine by me ) the men hide their faces & wear white robes.
There are 5 million mohammedans here, who are essentially above the law & receive many state had outs.
Their women hide their faces & wear black robes.
I doubt if Mrs May will do anything about the mohammedans, they are too numerous & have many votes each.
But that handful of neo Nazis better watch their asses
PRCS says
5 million?
Per the 2007 Pew study, the number then was 2.35 million.
CAIR and other Muslim “advocacy” groups have used 7-8 million (essentially to artificially boost their influence with pols).
I’m sure there are more Muslims in the U.S. since 2007, but that’s quite a jump.
Do you have a link citing that number?
Thanks/
gravenimage says
PRCS, you are talking about the US–this article is about the UK.
PRCS says
Thank you, my dear.
The line, “The KK is banned here (fine by me ) the men hide their faces & wear white robes.” threw me.
I thought it was a typo (KK vs KKK) and I wasn’t aware there are such folks in the UK.
Always willing to learn.
Your friend in the mountains.
gravenimage says
Thanks, PRCS.
gravenimage says
Marty, the 2011 census lists 2,660,116 Muslims in Britain–5.02% of the population.
Of course, I’m sure the numbers have gone up since 2011…
Jay Boo says
The only answer is to double down on perfecting the pander.
Theresa has the cure she reassures.
John Hartley says
When Theresa May equates Nazism with Islam she has, inadvertently, stated the truth because Islam is spiritual Nazism. They both seek supremacy and are both extreme Jew-haters.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
And the Wermacht had two all-Moslem SS divisions. Nobel Peace Prize laureate Yassir Arafat’s uncle worked with Adolph to set them up.
Mr Upside Down says
i thought the same thing John….we Brits are clever at Politics WE RAN 3 QUARTERS OF THE EARTH WE KNOW HOW TO DO POLITICS …it was a deliberate thing to put Islam-neo-nazi in the same sentence……SHE KNOWS
William says
Miss May would have a little more credibility with me if she had said she will be looking at all forms of violent extremism. But saying she will be looking into all forms of extremism, is she nuts? I guess extremism, in itself, in any form, is bad enough to warrant the government’s concern.
mortimer says
Theresa May said, ““trying to divide communities”
Who decides what is ‘divisive’? Based on what criteria?
It is ESSENTIAL to democracy to criticize a POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.
mortimer says
Why is ‘UNITY’ a holy cow? Representative democracy provides different political parties to represent different ‘divisions’ in thought.
No one can assume to be right all the time…not even Theresa May!
The appeal to ‘UNITY’ is in itself an appeal to censorship and FASCISM!
kay says
Re: “The appeal to ‘UNITY’ is in itself an appeal to censorship and FASCISM!”
TRUTH. There is nothing to negotiate. Either one accepts jihad and Sharia or one does not. There is NOTHING to negotiate.
…And you will be happy to hear I have taken the opportunity to post word of the new Robert Spencer book in several venues with more to come. I think that what works is to promote this book AND tie it in with the pre-Islamic State books by Andrew Bostom. (1) Sharia. (2) Jihad. (3) Islamic State. It’s a one two three. Nothing can break that stack of evidence.
Forcing bad guys to RESPOND to those really does destroy their communications strategy as well as their narrative. CAIR should really hate me. I am pushing the real stuff onto social media. It’s a REAL strategy. Next time Ben Affleck opens his collaborationist yap he’ll have to deal with Bostom and Spencer. And not just the cute nanny.
And Theresa May cannot argue with these books either. I read Winston Churchill and some Thomas Jefferson and the social biography of Benjamin Franklin. They would NOT put up with any of this “unity” garbage. Franklin and Stephane Charbonnier would have been great friends. The Frogs got their idea for the Republique from Paine and Franklin and Jefferson. Nous sommes tous Charlie.
“If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”
— George Washington
“Islam, this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives.”
— Kemal Attaturk, founder of modern Turkey
“All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.”
Thomas Jefferson
“Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.”
— Thomas Jefferson
“I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion.”
–Thomas Jefferson
“Educate and inform the whole mass of the people… They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.”
— Thomas Jefferson
Liberty and Islam Cannot Coexist – STOP ISLAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZp5mqVsjXA
Counter Jihad is about HUMAN RIGHTS
Paul says
Are they going to be monitoring what’s happening in local
hate speech centr….sorry, I meant mosques? Yeah, right!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
They say Jihad is an internal spiritual struggle, and that’s what I see in Ms. May as she flaps her jaws and wags her tongue about Islamic extremism. She should make an appearance on Sean Hannity’s show, they could bond in their collective self-comforting willful ignorance about what a billion hairy Moslems are really up to. Or on news entertainment superstar Bill O’Reilly’s show, The Spin Zone.
vox populi says
… which to me sounds like simple, plain neo-nazism alone can be tolerated. sounds like a good program …
Charli Main says
This crap is just government double speak for bringing in a total clamp down on any criticism of islam, muslims and their activities in Britain. Just throw in neo- Nazis to make it look all fair and above board.
Michael Warden says
That woman Theresa May is truly delusional.
PRCS says
I don’t think she is delusional.
I think that she and the UK government are simply too terrified to just tell the honest truth–knowing that doing so will not convince their Muslim constituents to end the denials and start telling the truth themselves.
vlparker says
As are all leftists.
No, Ms. May, extremism is not the problem. ISLAM is the problem. idiot.
gravenimage says
UK Home Secretary Theresa May pledges government fight against “Islamist extremism” and “neo-Nazi extremism”
…………………………………..
How many actual “neo-Nazi extremists” are there in Britain? And of those few, how many have ever been violent?
I am *not* trying to minimize how repellent Nazism is–but it just isn’t much of an actual threat in the UK today.
The only recent incident I can find at all was an “anti-Jewification” neo-Nazi rally that was to be held at Golders Green in London, which has a large Jewish population. After a protest, the rally was moved.
The most salient part of the article was *this*:
Some viewed the neo-Nazi demonstration as a distraction from more significant threats to the Jewish community. “It’s very unpleasant and upsetting, but one shouldn’t forget that the antisemitism that most concerns the majority of UK Jews today comes from Islamic fundamentalism and the [anti-Israel] left,” said Keith Kahn-Harris, co-author of Turbulent Times: the British Jewish Community Today.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/30/london-neo-nazi-rally-moved-from-golders-green
In other words, neo-Nazis are not at this time the most pressing threat even to the Jewish community.
And that’s the whole point. More:
Of course, May is not just speaking about real neo-Nazis. She also almost certainly is lumping in all opponents of jihad terror that she and her government consider to be “right-wing” with neo-Nazis
…………………………………..
Yes. This is exactly what hard-Left groups like “Antifa” are doing–purveying their own form of fascism while supposedly opposing “Fascists”, who in most cases are just centrists who oppose Jihad or a Communist agenda.
More:
Theresa May said extremists were united in “trying to divide communities” and it was up to both communities and the Government to challenge their message.
…………………………………..
“Divide communities” is code for daring to oppose violent Jihad. Apparently advocating violent Jihad and the imposition of Shari’ah doesn’t “divide communities”, but opposing this barbarism does…
Theresa May must love Pavlo Lapshyn the way apologists for Jihad terror in the US love Timothy McVeigh–he’s really the only figure they can point to to balance the thousands of Muslim terrorists…
Angemon says
Matthieu Baudin says
“…Future generations of free Britons, if there are any, will condemn her and her boss Cameron as naive fantasists whose draconian measures against counter-jihadists and blind eye to jihad activity within Britain (except in the most egregious cases) doomed Britain to years of bloodshed and chaos…”
Yes, in this arena they seem to have well and truly lost the plot. She may as well have stirred the imagination of the nation by crying – ” We cannot go forward unless we have our backs to the wall!”.
Has there ever been a time when both government and opposition have sung such a muddled chorus in unison?
Baucent says
Perhaps May could enlighten us all with details of some recent “Neo Nazi” terror attacks, because I can’t think of any. Or maybe she is thinking of the English Defence League who protest, make speeches about Islamization and carry the Cross of St George flag. The odd scuffle with hard left activists hardly rates as “terrorism”. But isn’t this really the agenda, to demonise those that dare to defy the Governments line that a growing muslim population is something to celebrate. In todays Britain to be a naysayer marks you as a Neo Nazi.
Raja says
when did the Neo-Nazis get the highly disproportionate propaganda and media attention for “mass murders”?
To club the two supremacist is ridiculous to say the least. O by the way, may be she thinks she can leave the Brits scratching their head. May be she thinks the Brits lack the wits to understand her scheming in the hate theater. Grave injustice. One is the cause of hate another effect of hate !!!!!!!!!!!
c777 says
Like all globalists she thinks she can control Islam, and control any dissent to mass immigration at the same time, and just carry on with the disastrous policy of mass immigration at the same time.
The government have in effect put them selves between the hammer and the anvil.
Bindon Blood says
Kay. Britain today is basically governed by the left ,in various guises,but they are all of the left. Scotland,a “separate” country is actually governed by a Marxist-lite party,The Scottish Nationalist Party.All the political parties except one,the United Kingdom Independent Party,are very pro E.U. The U.K.I.P is a Liberal party in the old sense,ie,private enterprise,libertarian, free market; not in any way to be confused with the modern term”liberal” which is a euphemism for Marxist lite. The U.K.I.P has a lot of support,it polled the third largest amount of votes overall in the last election but because of the system of polling in Britain only secured one seat,the next party had less than half the votes but managed to get ,I think,6 seats.
The E.U ,so dear to the hearts of many British and European politicians ,is a neo Marxist organisation that intends to abolish the nation states of Europe,abolish borders and form a new entity that also incorporates Muslim nations,”Eurabia”.This is a long term project and for many years was kept secret from the people of Europe,but eventually things do come out.The E.U is also supportive of the U.N and it’s dreams of World Government.
Europe & Britain will not wholeheartedly condemn Islam Because it has invested so much in it already,I mean political investment,and has many future plans that include it.Loss of European identity does not worry the politicians as they seek that anyway and to have a multi- cultural population in Europe does not phase them.They envisage a society where Muslims and Indigenous Europeans live in a society with different cultural values but existing side by side in harmony;an obvious recipe for disaster .This a typical Utopian type fantasy.
Europe and the U.N are inherently anti Israel because the O.I.C are very powerful, Europe enjoys trade deals with Muslim countries and Israel is seen as block to a trouble free relationship with Islam. Britain does outwardly support Israel but not,I would say,wholeheartedly. The ferocity of Islamic Jihad has caught Europe somewhat off guard,disturbing their portrayal of Islam as inherently peaceful. It has also caused problematic population shifts which deeply antagonise the people of Europe. Yet Europe dare not go back on it’s long prepared plan without destroying the whole project. If you notice Europe will not alter it’s pro Muslim stance no matter what transpires,it just repeats ,ever more adamantly, the mantra that Islam means peace. The Jews,so very beneficial to any society,can be driven out,shariah courts instituted,beheadings,murders, rapes;Europe does not shift one inch in it’s attitude.
Of course Europe has permitted itself to be taken hostage by allowing millions of Muslims to settle there;it cannot afford to antagonise them. The European solution to this is to make more concession to Islam and shut down those who would reveal the ,unwelcome,truth about Islamic tenets ,methods and goals.
The proponents of the E.U project are so blind in their hubris that they will see Europe destroyed or riven by serious conflict rather than admit they got it wrong. I can see no happy ending for Europe or Britain;Civil war or subjugation is the natural outcome of this profoundly ill conceived project
Discodave says
What a wonderful, informative post BB! It does make a lot of sense because our leaders behaviour does point to “planned all along.”
Bindon Blood says
Thank you DD.Nothing so wide spread could be a coincidence. Over the years politicians have talked a lot about controlling borders,made many promises but curiously do absolutely nothing. The old adage is right ,actions speak louder than words,especially where politicians are involved.
kay says
Re: “Nothing so wide spread could be a coincidence.”
This is a valid and important argument. Looks like a very serious problem.
As in severity 1 / priority 1. Eurabia is not a healthy choice. Big moves in that direction necessarily lead to fighting in the streets within two generations.
The only way to avoid generalized urban warfare in the major European cities down the road is to shut down the forward path to Eurabia. That is the only way to save Europe. Ignoring this failure path leads to extremely dire problems for all of Europe, and on all levels.
The Europeans must choose to shut down Sharia law and everyone who supports that. Sharia Law is fascism, and it is the primary threat to civilization as well as all indigenous peoples.
The Europeans must once again decide to fight fascism. Better to nip it in the bud this time. Last time was pretty bad for everyone.
kay says
Response to Bindon Part 1:
Hi Bindon. Thanks much for an extended response. I have seen several UKIP videos and prior to the last Brit election I posted background articles on UKIP, the UKIP’s Farage, and Euroskepticism, over on some political and European fora ). This does look very very bad:
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6863-living-under-anarcho-tyranny
My understanding was that the Scottish National Party was more independent and emphasizing local autonomy. If they just partly disengage Britain and still go with European Union then they still lose everything over time.
Of course the OIC are enormously powerful, and they even have Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton on their side, and in opposition to the Free Speech First Amendment. The OIC is The Main Enemy, and Europe is desperately vulnerable because of dependence on foreign oil.
Even if the domestic and import Muslims were not so dangerous, Europe does not have the carrying capacity or present means to quickly host or sustain large new and penniless immigrant populations. They can take in a lot of people in 2015, but not in 2016 and 2017, etc. The economic scenario would significantly parallel that of the Titanic ( slowly going down due to rapidly taking on more and more water ).
It is certainly true that bringing in a lot of foreign and basically hostile Islamic culture weakens and destabilizes European societies, and that could be an effective strategy for partially breaking and subjugating member nations under a supra-national European Union. However, we can all see, as of late 2015, that this approach cannot continue because it is insane. Meaning self-destructive due to the inherent crazy-making and destructive programs of the invader culture, both socially and with the broad slow ramp up of asymmetric military conflict.
So far Paul Weston’s earlier ( 2007 ) analysis for 2025 ( above ) looks fairly reasonable. I therefore expect general intermittent street warfare and substantial ghettoization in a good many parts of Europe by 2040. This is really bad for the indigenous Europeans if they remain basically unarmed civilians! So in the short term the European Union can grab more supranational powers with Parliamentary procedures, but in 25 years the general social fabric of the continent really starts tearing apart. And there are many huge costs for that on all levels.
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Bindon Blood says
Hello Kay. I can’t see the second half to your very interesting post. I would say do not be under any illusion about the Scottish Nationalists,they are far left and hate,I mean hate ,the English. I am referring of course to the core supporters ,not those who voted because they were swept along on a tide of rhetoric and romanticism about a past Scotland that never existed in reality. Already the SNP is preparing to grab the land of the Scottish Lairds,who have managed these family estates for centuries ,and split the land into parcels to dispose of as they think fit. The Lairds will have no ,or little,means of stopping it. But of course the left always follow the same pattern,they have no new ideas
There will be a referendum in Britain soon as to whether We leave the E.U.This referendum is mainly due to the UKIP. Scotland is saying that they won’t be bound by any decision based on an overall majority;this means that if the English and Welsh vote to leave and most Scots don’t then scotland will try to block the result.
Needless to say Cameron will urge a” stay in” vote along with most M.Ps. Because the British character now bears no resemblance of the British Character of my youth,I fear that when it comes to the time the people will cave in and vote to stay in the E.U.Should that happen,as it very well might,then I’m sorry to say that Britain will be finished,for ever.
In my childhood and youth Britain ruled,kindly ,despite what people are taught today,a vast Empire.Yet within 60 years it has all gone and even the Homeland is now vulnerable.Much of the problem in the world today is because the British Empire is no longer holding these trouble spots together as she did for about 300 years.My consolation is that I won’t have to witness the final blow;I’ll be long gone.
kay says
Hi Bindon.
I know the upcoming Brexit Referendum is huge.
All the Brits now see the invasions from the South. Everyone does.
Brexit is the indigenous peoples’ main opportunity to save historical Britain as a separate political lifeboat. This is very simple.
The risks are all very clear, Libya and refugee populations will be used against all European peoples. And you simply cannot afford the economic costs much less all the social, criminal and political costs of being progressively overwhelmed.
Here’s hoping common sense prevails.
Stand for what’s right. Save what’s left. And Mind. The. Gap.
kay says
Response to Bindon Part 2:
Success is the opposite of failure. The various European communities must seek to avoid this probable and now well-evidenced 2040 trajectory/ scenario. That means they must develop political platforms and mass political power to break down severely damaging oversight and control by the European Union. And in particular, secure local borders.
Transnational terrorism is greatly aided by the Schengen Agreement and the EU AFSJ seems to not have defined the most serious crime of treason as a European Crime. Larger scale and more lethal attacks can be mounted by international bad guy teams co-ordinated from the Caliphate. As with the hundred or two hundred Nigerian Boko Haram jihadis recently entering Libya to help break local resistance.
I see no functional “freedom, security and justice” for indigenous Europeans wrt Sharia fanatics, only crippling economic and legal threats to free speech under the labels of “racism” and “religious discrimination”. I can’t know whether Theresa May classes the English Defence League as “a right wing threat to society”, but the EDL web site clearly and decisively claims they uphold international human rights principles. Like the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Whereas Sharia Law seeks to destroy all that ( per Andrew Bostom and Bill Warner, 14 centuries of history, Islamic State and so forth ).
In principle, EDL is NOT “trying to divide communities”, while all militant proponents of Political Sharia are fascist extremists and traitors who serve foreign masters and the dangerous enemies of both the country and humanity entire. The bad guys have an enormous community, at least 700 million Islamofascists worldwide. The good guys are being criminalized and are beset on all sides. And sometimes shot down.
Right now we have to fight for real free speech, e.g. for Paul Weston and the Belfast Catholic priest. And also for equality under the law free of any/ all Sharia ( Laicite’ ). But only dismantling the negative, coercive, and self-defeating EU political controls and rejecting mass immigration can save the Europeans and western civilization.
The overall threat matrix is enormous, complicated and powerful. This means that only major and very active and well-organized political resistance will work. And that socially responsible massive grass-roots resistance is most necessary. Otherwise there is no good future for Europe, only the downward path.
We already have the overall global-historical story from Andrew Bostom and Bill Warner. There is nothing to negotiate wrt civilizational jihad. The European peoples must have self-determination! They MUST break Political Islam or their communities progressively fall down and become swallowed and consumed under pure Sharia fascism. Like large forest pigs in the jaws of a giant python.
We are human beings. Human Beings Must Never Submit To Animals. Save Civilization. Break Islam!
Bindon Blood says
I agree totally but when the left/Islamic alliances holds all the cards it is a very difficult task,and a dangerous one.Think of the Soviet Union and her satellites and recall how it was virtually impossible to break the grip of the Soviet state.True it was broken eventually but the elite themselves ,in the main,grew tired of it mainly because of pressure from Reagan and his close friend Thatcher.We have no Reagan or Thatcher now. Of course Europe is not the Soviet Union,YET. but give it time.It will be a different type of dictatorship ,one based on the clinging ,cloying ,institutionally hand-wringing,bleeding heart,faux rights tyranny of cultural Marxism,the nanny state,the moral relativity of “non judgmentalism” and the “all must have prizes” outwardly simpering social worker but inwardly vicious and heartless;the hateful vindictiveness toward those who oppose their Utopian fantasy.
The EDL ,at least under Tommy Robinson,was not “far right”(what that actually means no one seems to really know).They were not as vicious or mindless as their opponents,the “anti fascist league” which is actually a front for the very hard left “Socialist workers party.” Put “anti Fascist” in the title and all the dopey left and centre left will automatically assume one is good. Even Conservatives are fooled. The truth is very few even know what a Fascist is. Images of Hitler spring to mind of course,and he was “far right” wasn’t he? No. He was a Socialist;the name of the party gives it away;The National Socialist German Worker’s Party”. Fascism like Communism was a totalitarian centralist ideology,anti democracy ,anti freedom.
The EDL was mainly a working class organisation,which is probably why it attracted such venom from the BBC and the bourgeois left. In Britain one can make the most ridiculous statements,in the right accent,and people will listen,or make a profoundly sensible argument ,in the wrong accent,and attract ridicule. The middle class left are the worst offenders. The EDL ,I think,is a spent force at present,since Robinson left.
Bindon Blood says
I meant to mention Paul weston.Weston is ,in my view,a decent man who loves his country and fears for her future,as do many here in Britain,probably mainly England because England has taken the brunt of Islamic immigration and hostility. Weston speaks truth;that alone makes him a marked man in today’s Orwellian England. In fact he was arrested a couple of years ago whilst making an election speech in Salisbury ,I think it was. During his speech ,it was a local election of some sort,he spoke from the steps of a public building and quoted a well known passage from one of Churchill’s Early books,”The River War”.This was about one of Britain’s many minor campaigns in the Sudan etc.,which of course is Islamic. In this passage ,quoted by Weston, Churchill points out the failings of Islam and it’s deleterious effect on individuals and their behaviour.It was not favourable overall although Churchill ,being a man of action in his youth,praised the courage of the individuaL Islamic warrior and the bravery of the Muslim soldiers in the British Indian Army(there was no Pakistan then). Needless to say ,some snivelling “Quisling” called the police and about 4 Constables duly turned up. They tried to make Weston stop speaking(in a free country!) ,he refused and was duly arrested. I think police didn’t really know themselves what crime he’d committed. He was charged,I think,but I don’t know the outcome.
So when May talks about cracking down on extremists, and “Neo Nazis”(there is no serious Nazis threat ,neo or otherwise, in England).She means people like Paul Weston whose truth they don’t approve of. That would include people like me and many others who persist in following the “wrong” truth. Naturally this will scare off most people. In reality it is the enactment of the U.N/O.I.C resolution to close down criticism of Islam. All thinking people know it.
kay says
Can anyone confirm or disconfirm that the English Defence League is a “spent force” ?
If anything, recent events in Europe and the Middle East should greatly motivate Brits ( or just English?) to listen to the EDL and support them.
I saw the video on the Paul Weston recitation of Churchill. I do not know the legal outcome. Anyone care to tell us? This is as important as Pamela Geller in Texas. People should focus on any government attacks on free speech.
Churchill was far from being a fascist. He was anti-fascist. Painting him as “far right” is a false charge that can and should be broken.
If Theresa May wants to nail a Churchill recitation then the Brits should kick her out of office, pure and simple. And work to remove anyone else who tries to pull that kind of governmental fascist stunt.
If you Brits do not keep and defend basic free speech rights then you are not free citizens.
This is the fulcrum of the debate on basic human rights for the Brits.
What say the Brits here? Go on. spit it out.
There’s still a fight to be had.
King Elizabeth speech ‘Hoist the Colours’
Bindon Blood says
Kay.In America you have the first amendment, there is no such thing in Britain,or Europe as far as I know.There is no written Constitution and ,honestly,we never needed one ,until the last 18 years or so. It was taken for granted that “free Britons” had the absolute right to say whatever they liked,providing of course that didn’t stir up insurrection or encourage murder etc, Blair’s governments changed all that when he ramped up political correctness,invented the “phobias” and phobics” and “isms” and “hate crime” etc. English society started to change ,slowly at first but then it became apparent that things had shifted,to the left . As mass immigration increased other things changed too.Attacks became more common on Christianity,British history was denigrated and side lined. All sorts of faux “rights ” started to appear,normally championing Immigrants ,criminals etc. The “virtues” of Islam started to be extolled and the denigration of the traditional family.Militant feminism sprang up, with it’s fake outrage at trivia whilst ignoring serious offences against helpless women in Islam.
Blair was crafty.His governments borrowed billions to pump into welfare and state spending ;the masses didn’t notice what was happening during this sleight of hand.Money,and debt,was cheap. Life was one long spending spree .Until 2008.
There is continual talk by government of the renewal of the 17th century English Bill Of Rights,up-dated of course;it never materialises.
Now thanks to people like Farage,Weston,and ,yes,Robinson.the people are starting to realize that a massive con trick has been played on them. They are angry,lots of people are angry but no one really knows what to do about it. Unlike the French,the English don’t rush to the streets ,I mean the decent folk,not the yobs, rioting and threatening until they get their way. But we are getting heartily sick of being played for saps. Too much might just push a lot of people too far.
I think most of us realize or at least have a good idea that the England we all ,apart from the left of course ;they always despise their own, knew and loved is gone for ever,and a lot of us expect to lose ,in due course,what is left.
The English won’t stand for Islamic domination.Quiet as we are there is a limit. I don’t know how the future will be for my people and country,as I say,I won’t be here. But it does seem as if tempestuous times are inevitable. One thing I would say to you Kay,and all your fellow citizens;hold on tightly to that first amendment,don’t give one jot or comma away. Don’t let Obama or anyone else take it from you. It is vital for your basic freedom in the strange times to come.
kay says
Geert Wilders also says that the US is the hope for the free societies of the West.
I take this as a personal responsibility since I have more leeway with anonymous social media posts.
It appears that Brits ( and maybe others ) are harried and intimidated by their government and laws. Like the Belfast Ireland RC priest.
There should be some people your side of the Pond who can shred the bad guy theology, what with slavery, rape, anti-Semitism and all. Theologically speaking, Islam amounts to rats and sewage.
I have studied carefully what Farage and Weston have to say. These are good leaders. Plus, you have Oxford and Cambridge and serious high school courses in critical reasoning. And Douglas Murray. Ever see Douglas Murray? Use fighting dialectics to skewer these Rodents of Unusual Size.
Douglas Murray – Charlie Hebdo on Al Jazeera [HL]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N76w0pkz7yQ
This is the model to study for counter-jihad. Douglas Murray did say “Islamic fascism” in this video.
We gave you Andrew Bostom and Bill Warner and Acts17Apologetics and much more. It’s all there. Everything you need to break the Islamic narrative. It is doable: much good work is being done in Australia with Q Society and so forth. Insist on One Law For All.
Look, the old Celtic culture had really good fight in it. That’s the paradigm. The whole Christian approach, with the Anglicans and the Vatican etc., is worse than useless for this dire problem. Go Celtic!
“All things are ready if our minds be so.” “Punish the man whose mind is backward now.”
Henry V – Band of Brothers
Bindon Blood says
Kay ,I agree with you but at the risk of appearing totally discouraged i must say that the old style British are rapidly dying out and the young think differently.They have been neutered and infantilised by the welfare state and Socialism. Hardship and struggle is a foreign language to them. I seriously believe they could not cope with a harder life as my generation did. I really think they don’t care.