He said he should be tried only by an Islamic court. British authorities will no doubt ascribe this to his “mental health problems,” without pausing to consider the fact that Islam asserts political authority and rejects all non-Muslim political authority. Yet that fact is going to cause Britain a great deal of trouble in the future — far beyond Atiq Ahmed’s “mental health problems.”
“Man who admitted sharing terror videos rants about ‘enemy of Islam court,'” Lancashire Evening Post, August 7, 2015:
A jobless man from Oldham admitted sharing two terrorist videos on Google+ before launching a rant from the dock of the Old Bailey about being in an “enemy of Islam court”.
Atiq Ahmed, 32, from Copster Hill Road, appeared before judge Michael Topolski charged with three terror-related offences.
Ahmed, who has a history of mental health problems, pleaded guilty to two counts of dissemination of a terrorist publication.
They related to two videos with Arabic titles he posted links to on his publicly accessible Google+ account over a period between January and March and on or around March 8 this year.
He pleaded not guilty to a charge of possession of information useful for terrorist purposes contrary to Section 58 of the Terrorism Act.
The 60-page document entitled Hijrah to the Islamic State (IS) was published by IS and contains a how-to guide for aspiring jihadists. It was allegedly found on Ahmed’s Hewlett Packard laptop computer on March 9.
Ahmed’s lawyer Andrew Selby said the guilty pleas were made on the basis he was “reckless” when he posted the links.
Prosecutor Steven Gray said this was accepted by the Crown but not his assertion that he acted out of “curiosity and study”….
Ahmed wore a grey tracksuit and muttered to himself throughout the brief hearing.
He began ranting about killings and bloodshed as he was led away from the dock by two officers.
During the brief outburst, Ahmed said he should be before an Islamic court and not in an “enemy of Islam court”.
particolor says
He Was reckless ? Yeah 60 pages reckless ! 🙁 ….Dear Mum I’m freezing here in England ! Please send Vest !
Your son Antiquity !
Cop the Army waiting at the Tunnel to “Freedom” OMG ? 🙁
They even built a Tent Mosque !!
Marty says
Characteristically the BBC’s “Songs of Praise” will be coming from this
Camp of Criminals in Calais.
Some of the inmates have built a “church” to garner favours from
gullible Christians (the only sort in the UK now, with the last Archbishop of Canterbury
recommending we incorporated sharia law into our UK laws — Honestly.)
Ric says
Indeed, Marty, the UK is slip-slidin’-away and has been for some time. The self-anointed overlords, the Archbishop of Canterbury and others of his milieu hold a death wish, unfortunately the entire Union will suffer the same fate as these aforementioned dullards steeped in the inanity, insanity of political-correctness. .
The Beeb should be indicted for treason along with the above mentioned overlords.
M S case says
Incorporating sharia laws into western laws Hmmmmmm Will that work????
Babs says
Not surprising. Al-Beeb’s Head of Religious Programming is Muslim.
Kasey says
They should just deport him to IS.
Beth says
“They should just deport him to IS.”
No Kasey – he needs to stand trial for murder.
ninetyninepct says
This is England, remember. He will be released free based on racism and religious beliefs. Better to send a message to all muzzies and deport him to Syria where they have muzzy courts. Tattoo a message on his forehead declaring him gay. Justice will be carried out there.
Angemon says
That was what the muslim who purchased ricin said – that it was out of curiosity, and to see what it was all about. Gee, it’s almost as if they’re, I don’t know, reading from the same play-book or something…
A “rant”, eh? I wonder if they would be so dismissive if a “right-wing extremist” said something regarding the dangers of islam…
Charli Main says
Angemon
ALL muslims sing from the same song sheet, only some sing louder and more enthusiastically than others
particolor says
Aint that True ! 🙁
jayell says
I didn’t think that muslims liked music, let alone singing. Isn’t that why thay make that tone-deaf cacaphonic din from their PA systems on their minarets? In any case, they wouldn’t be singing from a hymn-sheet because they wouldn’t sing hymns – unless there’s a muslim version of a hymn? How would a muslim version of ‘All things bright and beautiful’ go?
mortimer says
‘Enemy of Islam court’?!
Well, that says a lot. Sounds like a death threat to me. Obviously, he feels he’d have a better chance of beating the ‘terrorist’ rap in Saudi Arabia, maybe. He shouldn’t count on that either. Saudis believe only the House of Saud can declare a jihad. Everyone else who disagrees with Saud gets the chop.
Atiq Ahmed is no more mentally ill than 15% of Muslims who claim to support jihad terror. One in six Muslims is as ‘mentally ill’ as Atiq Ahmed. Normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
Beth says
“Atiq Ahmed is no more mentally ill than 15% of Muslims who claim to support jihad terror.”
If you are a Muslim – then you support jihad terror. It is commanded of them by their Koran. If they do not support jihad terror – then they’re not muslims – no matter how much they claim to be one.
It’s the same with Christianity. If you call yourself a Christian, and yet, – murder, lie and steal – you’re not a Christian – no matter how much you claim to be.
So, no, – they’re not mentally. They’re just carrying out the commands of their own Koran. The so-called ‘moderate’ muslims, on the other hand, may be mentally ill. They claim to be muslims, but then thumb their noses at their own Koran when it comes to keeping with the violent commands contained in that book – and even deny them. As far as I’m concerned, you have to be ‘mental’ to do such a thing. No?
Babs says
There’s a strong argument that anyone who can be a devout Muslim, particularly those who are female and embrace their woefully inferior status, has mental health problems in the way that cult members such as Moonies and Hari Krishna slaves do.
On another thread here I read that O’barmy has offered them counselling. I said there that sociopaths are never cured, and are rarely helped to behave in a civilised manner by mere counselling.
Having said that, there’s a wealth of research about exit counselling for the needy and otherwise deluded who are ensnared by cults.
jayell says
This is old hat. They’ve done this sort of thing before (like refusing to stand up or/and face the judge, creating riots when one of their sort gets the sentence that deserve……it’s getting boring.
Beth says
“Ahmed said he should be before an Islamic court and not in an “enemy of Islam court”.”
He should have thought of that before hand – and moved to an Islamic nation.
Michael Warden says
French port of Calais is now vurtually an African Islamic town.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/french-moving-out-calais-town-morphs-afro-islamic-invasion-staging-post
particolor says
Loved the fake Takiyya Christian Church !! 🙂 🙂
They learn all that in the Moosk before Deporting for Duty ! 🙂 🙂
jayell says
Must be happening elsewhere in France as well, e.g., around Paris. And it’s been going on for years in the UK where those who don’t just move out of ‘muslim areas’ get pushed out evetually.
JihadwatchJane says
Once again my pitiful home country abnegates its responsibility to prosecute Islamic jihadists and instead targets those who oppose them.
Here’s copied text from an email appeal I just received from Britain First, who are being threatened with imprisonment if they continue to fight jihadism in the UK:
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JihadwatchJane says
Continued: here’s the email from Britain First: “I am so, so sorry for having to bring this issue up again, but I have no choice.
As you know, at the end of last month deputy leader Jayda Fransen and I were dragged into the High Court in a blatant attempt to stop us leading our protest in Luton.
This was an outrageous abuse of police powers and demonstrated just how desperate the authorities are to stop Britain First.
Thankfully, the judge didn’t entertain the police request to bar us from Luton.
Unfortunately, because of the way these things work, he did grant several other clauses of the injunction on a temporary basis.
He did this mainly because the legal paperwork was served on Jayda and I at a very late stage, only several days before the protest was due to take place.
Thanks to this deliberate tactic employed by the police, which was designed to prevent us from having time to launch an appeal if the judge banned us from Luton, our legal team had no time whatsoever to mount a full defence of all the clauses in the injunction.
Because of this, the judge decided against clause “A” which would have prohibited us from entering Luton, but granted all the other clauses.
The hearing was adjourned and now we face a full hearing in the High Court to argue against the clauses the judge granted on a temporary basis.
The clauses that were granted temporarily are as follows (we have underlined crucial parts):
b) Entering any mosque or Islamic Cultural Centre or its private grounds within England and Wales without prior written invitation;
c) Publishing, distributing or displaying, or causing to be published, distributed or displayed, any words or images, whether electronically or otherwise, which having regard to all the circumstances are likely to stir up religious and/or racial hatred;
d) Using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour thereby causing harassment alarm or distress to anyperson;
e) That a power of arrest be attached to these conditions.
As you can see, these conditions are pretty draconian and will cripple mine and Jayda’s ability to run Britain First.
If we are not allowed to “publish, distribute or display” any words or images, how can we continue as leader and deputy leader?
If we post up an image that is critical of Islam, we will be breaking clause “C” and we will be arrested and flung in prison, so extreme are the consequences of breaking a High Court injunction.
If I am giving a speech in a town centre and a Muslim tells the police he feels “offended” by my words, I will be guilty of breaking clause “D” and will be arrested and imprisoned.
If this injunction is granted properly at the forthcoming full hearing, then breaking any of its terms will mean “Contempt of High Court” which is a serious crime and a guaranteed prison sentence for both Jayda and I.
Our legal representatives have delivered the final bill for their services at the High Court on the 26th of June and it stands in at £5,300.
As you can see, defending yourself in the High Court is very expensive and this is one of the reasons the police (using taxpayers’ money of course) are doing this to us.
But let’s be honest: we beat them last time and we can do it again if we all pull together, close ranks and contribute to our legal fighting fund.
Our solicitors tell us that the full hearing for this injunction is “imminent” and we must prepare ourselves.
The good news is, if we beat the police again in the High Court, it will deter other arms of the State from persecuting us legally.
https://www.britainfirst.org/donate/
The bad news is that, should we lose, we face disaster and will most probably end up paying the entire (or part) legal costs that the police have run up, such is the way the court system works (“the loser pays”).
This is a defining moment for Britain First.
If we lose, the consequences are extreme.
If we win, we secure our existence and we give the establishment an almighty kick up the backside.
Britain First will not be pushed around, mistreated or forced into a corner!
We are a fighting movement with backbone and courage to face all enemies.
That is what makes us so different to the “Old Gang” parties that are wrecking our beautiful country.
We must raise another £5,000 to fight our case in the High Court or we will go into it undefended and face catastrophe.
https://www.britainfirst.org/donate/
I am not prepared to let that happen and neither is Jayda.
Last time showed that if we raise the funds to pay a QC barrister we can win!
I am gutted to be sending this email once again appealing for more donations but, what choice have I got?
I can’t ignore the situation any longer and as leader of the movement I must make difficultdecisions and this is one of them.
This injunction will not go away – that’s wishful thinking.
At any time now I will get a phone call from our solicitors and they will say that the full hearing has been called and we need approximately £5,000 to fight it.
I must admit, Jayda and I are worried sick about this happening and balk every time the phone rings.
I have checked our records for you on this appeal and here’s what I found:
Target: £5,000
Raised so far: £2,922
Suggested action: Chip in £10
Please remember, if we lose this case then it will create a “precedent” that binds all future court decisions of a similar nature.
So not only will this affect Britain First, but also every group or individual in the country that wants to protest or take part in politics.
Once again, freedom and democracy are on the line.
https://www.britainfirst.org/donate/
Britain First and this impending legal battle is the new “front line” where the fate of our nation will be decided.
It has monumental consequences for our entire democracy.
Let’s fight to win!
We need literally every single member, activist, commanding officer and supporter to chip in with an urgent donation once again.
I know many of you receiving this dug very deep last time to fund our legal defence and for that I am eternally grateful.
I hate to ask again so soon but this is as critical and perilous as it gets.
Jayda and I have already emptied our pockets and donated considerable amounts to our legal fighting fund and we need true commitment and dedication at this time of true danger to our movement.
Please send your most generous gift as soon as possible:
https://www.britainfirst.org/donate/
I thank you in advance for your generosity, commitment and loyalty.
Yours sincerely,
Paul Golding
Leader, Britain First
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particolor says
OH Dear !! 🙁 They have You over a Barrel now ! Just Surrender and nick off down the High Street and pick yourselves out some Nice Slave Outfits !! 🙁
BC says
All religion is a mental health problem to some degree, once you start believing in something that does not exist you obviously have a mental problem. If I went around claiming Santa Claus was real and actually did visit every child’s home in the world on Christmas Eve, I would most likely be committed.