Shukee Begum and others like her left Britain in order to join an entity that considers itself to be at war with Britain and has vowed to destroy it. To allow such people back into the country is suicidal. And that is exactly what Britain appears to be.
“British widow who left the UK to join Isil now stranded in Turkey and desperate to come home,” by Lauren Williams, Telegraph, August 15, 2015:
A British woman and her five young children who left the UK to join Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) in Syria are now stranded in Turkey and desperate to come home after her husband was killed fighting with the militants.
Shukee Begum is believed to have left her Manchester home with her family sometime in the last twelve months to live alongside her husband, a jihadist and also a British national, in Isil’s self declared capital of Raqqa.
Now widowed after her husband was killed in battle, the woman of Somali origin, is seeking to return with her young family to the UK. The children are aged between one and 12, including three girls and a toddler….
It is unclear whether Mrs Begum would face terror charges if and when she returns to the UK. Any decisions on prosecutions are taken by police and the Crown Prosecution Service on a case by case basis….
alyn21 says
She is Somalian. She belongs in Somalia
mortimer says
Yup. Agree.
Anyone who takes the Loyal Oath to sovereign of the United Kingdom and intentionally breaks it is guilty of treason and should receive the full penalty in time of war. She can always go to Somalia. UK should not pay traitors to return to UK nor pay them to live there.
Scott M says
Yep. Its back to Somalia for this parasite (well, it should be).
Qur'an is Haram says
Yep
jayell says
Hit the nail on the head there. She’s missing the benefits.
jayell says
Absolutely. The UK is NOT ‘her home’. She has nothing whatsoever in common with the ‘proper’ British. In any case, aren’t they supposed to be keeping her sort OUT?
gordon miller says
That says it all.
amy says
Yes she’s Somalian but she could is a British citizen. And if you was born her you have a right to come back. Not supporting anyone who have joined isil but it’s true. Her children should come back they don’t deserve any punishment cause of what their parents have put them through. And calling the children her brood isn’t a nice way to describe the kids. I’m just saying the kids just should come back to their home
Nambi says
IS is beheading innocent people. They are really deadly and were deadly before she went. I am an immigrant and a christian so I feel for immigrants and I have the Christian compassion BUTwith much love, she should be allowed back in Somalia. If I betrayed Britain, I would not beg to come back, I would simply go and hide in my parents country of origin. Surely that is the respectful thing to do. Going to Somalia should be her natural choice. Her children will be happy there, afterall there are people living peacefully in Somalia, maybe not economically ok but that is the price to pay. Unless the media is up to its usual tricks and we are not being told the whole story, with ISIS supporters roaming the streets i dont feel safe. Btw, the white widow as she was called. Denounced ISIS when her husband was killed only to abuse the system and fully join the group. Uk should simply be quiet and mind its own business. It does not need to spend anymore taxes responding. On a more productive note, instead a tougher stance should be taken against those people (foolish popular blabber-mouths with one brain cell and a lot of blonde hair) and institutions (the cheap media, lazy fools) who publish nonsense about immigrants, absolutely hulabaloo, lala land stuff, non-reality, causing division and tension among the people who care for the UK and are simply working hard to make UK work. Fools who think that if you shout the loudest, you are making sense, or if others remain quiet, that they have won or that they are superior. Fools who think that just having an English accent is enough and makes them more loyal (even if many of them, like Hitler, descend from immigrants themselves). Yet in reality, they are bad for the country. They do not want peace and I can bet many immigrants have the country in their hearts and are upholding its heritage in more real ways than simply being a controversial noise maker – a thing that many of us can do even better than they, if only we were given the microphone.
Angemon says
You made your bed, sweetie, now go lie in it. #NotFallingForCrocodileTears
EYESOPEN says
Could not agree more Angemon! Or to put it another way: “That’s just tough tittie.”, said the cat to the kitty.
Jay Boo says
Maybe Muslims in Turkey should be the one’s responsible for other Muslims as opposed to the assumption that non-Muslims in Europe and US are the one’s obligated to wipe Muzzie butts.
NPR won’t bring up that issue.
Georg says
Exactly. Come on, ummah, give your “sister” a life far superior to the one she’d be afforded in the Islamophobic West.
dumbledoresarmy says
Or Saudi Arabia could step up to the plate.
gravenimage says
UK Muslima who joined Islamic State now “desperate to come home”
……………………….
And now this Jihadist wants the “filthy Infidel” to come save her.
abad says
Dear UK:
Do NOT let her re-enter the UK for ANY REASON.
Thank you.
mortimer says
If all jihadists are charged with high treason and face a life sentence without parole, they may chose to stay out of UK instead.
Cecilia Ellis says
From the original article: “Isil, who rules its Syrian and Iraqi territory with an iron fist, exacts brutal punishments, including execution for anyone accused of spying or betraying its self-styled state.”
More:
“Basically they go there with noble ideas about Islam and then they get there and they see that it’s all lies and that it’s essentially a prison . . . They are shocked by what they find when they get there.”
…………
Explains that “desperate to come home” narrative pretty well. So, send her back home . . . to Somalia, where there is no welfare, no publicly-provided housing, no freedoms, etc.
voegelinian says
”
“Basically they go there with noble ideas about Islam and then they get there and they see that it’s all lies and that it’s essentially a prison . . . They are shocked by what they find when they get there.”
“Explains that “desperate to come home” narrative pretty well.”
No, it doesn’t explain it well. It explains it disastrously. Muslims aren’t going to join ISIS because they think it’s a paragon of Moderation, as that quote implies. They are going because it arouses their normative, mainstream Islamic appetite for the revival of true, bloody, supremacist Islam.
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“Muslims aren’t going to join ISIS because they think it’s a paragon of Moderation, as that quote implies.”
That quote implies no such thing and, as such, whatever you’re deriving from it is wrong by conception.
Cecilia Ellis says
Voeg, I disagree. I provided two excerpts from the original article. Taken together, I am certain that the provided quotes reveal that Shukee Begum found out the truth about conditions in ISIS-controlled areas and judged them to be demonstratively wanting, particularly as compared to her UK-high standard of living, freedoms, benefits, etc. Recognizing that she would be killed brutally for defection, she surely was desperate to get home.
Louise from Canada says
Stay were you are you idiot.
PRODOS says
Stay out bitch.
Jay Boo says
Another Muzzie-lima finds herself adrift and lost.
She thought that she would stay afloat on Muhammad’s scum at the mouth froth.
Victor Redlick says
Wot? Not it’s all cracked up to be, then, eh mate? Well you’ve gone and done it now, ‘aven’t ya? I guess “leaving it in Allah’s ‘ands” is a bit of a cheeky suggestion, under the present compromising circumstances. Wot’s mum gonna do for ya, now, ya stupid burk? Maybe your Prime Minister, Cameron, would be willing to trade places with you in a prisoner swap. Ooh, ya’d like that wouldn’t ya? Alas, no volunteers. Not even Muslims. Bollocks that!
Jay Boo says
Not to worry
Prime Minister, Cameron’s plan to protect British citizens from jihadis might be to change every Brits health plan to something (more basic) such as short term life insurance.
ECAW says
Gorblimey mate, who was your dialogue coach, Dick Van Dyke?
It’s berk not burk – rhyming slang for Berkeley Hunt.
Joseph says
@ ECAW
OK I’ll bite. Just what is the definition of Gorblimey? I kinda know blimey but gorblimey? If you could do both definitions please. I could guess at both, but I’d like to be sure. Thanks
Signed….curios Amer.
ninetyninepct says
When I was a kid it was always spelled corblimey.. I don’t know why. Right up there with Crikey I guess.
Michael Copeland says
Traditionally explained as originating in Cockney “[May] god blind me….”.
Cockney uses a long vowel sound In “Gawd”: “Gawd blind me” becomes “Gorblimey”,
ECAW says
Yes, I thought it was a euphemism for God Blind Me. Sounds very old, even mediaeval doesn’t it? Perhaps it was a way of avoiding punishment from the religious courts for blaspheming. Likewise perhaps with Christ and Crikey.
Gorblimey was also used to describe styleless clothing as here (note also the rhyming slang Daisy Roots for Boots):
ECAW says
Suicide to let her back into the country but homicide to let British citizens loose on Yazidis. It’s a mess Britain has made for herself and it’s her responsibility. There is one option but it seems not to be considered:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason_in_the_United_Kingdom#Treason_today
Sorry, considered – just not used:
“In 2014 the Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond revealed that the British Government was considering High Treason charges for Islamic Extremists in response to growing numbers of British Jihad fighters travelling to Syria and Iraq to join the Islamic State”
The maddest, and most maddening bit about this is in the Telegraph article where a Government spokesman said:
“We can confirm that a British national and her children have been reported missing in Turkey. We have been supporting the family in the UK, alongside the police,”
Do the police support the families of bank robbers these days? Perhaps they do.
mortimer says
These are very good arguments.
Since the Criminal Law Act 1967 is still in effect, a citizen can be charged who intends…”to levy war against the sovereign “in order by force or constraint to compel her to change her measures or counsels, or in order to put any force or constraint upon or in order to intimidate or overawe both Houses or either House of Parliament”, or to “move or stir” any foreigner to invade the United Kingdom or any other country belonging to the sovereign.”
Jihadists certainly are guilty of those crimes. They hope to invite jihadists to invade and overpower the UK and its allies and force change through terrorism.
Islamic terrorists are clearly chargeable in the matter of treason.
mortimer says
She doesn’t like the Islamic paradise on earth? No one can be surprised.
The majority of Muslims would leave Muslim countries at their very first chance without hesitation.
A billion Muslims or more would choose not to live in Muslim countries with their extreme backwardness, poverty, misogyny, paranoia, dysfunctionality, lies, corruption and lack of opportunity.
The catastrophic FAILURE of most Muslim countries proves Islam is false.
sidney penny says
that includes countries like:INDONESIA,MALAYSIA,BANGLADESH,PAKISTAN
Countries in North Africa like: MALI, SIERRA LEONE,ALGERIA,EGYPT,SOMALIA,SUDAN
and many more.
Why do Muslims do not want to go and live in Muslim countries?
dumbledoresarmy says
Because they want to drag everyone *else* in the world down into the same Hell that they inhabit.
Misery loves company.
In M Scott Peck’s book “People of the Lie” he says, of the really evil people, that they are so invested in their conviction that they themselves are perfect, that they have to *destroy* anything that contradicts that conviction. When reality collides with their perception of themselves, they are prepared to try to destroy reality rather than change their own beliefs/ behaviour. He writes “They [the evil] sacrifice others to preserve their self-image of perfection”.
The relative success – the liveliness and creativity and energy – of non-Muslim communities and societies over against the chaos and violence and sheer madness that plague Muslim societies, is a sort of standing insult to the self-image of Muslims; so they *have* to destroy us. (The alternative, is to engage in self-examination, which would if rigorously pursued lead to the conviction that Islam must be abandoned…this is the path that the bravest take, the apostates).
voegelinian says
“Because they want to drag everyone *else* in the world down into the same Hell that they inhabit.”
Well, yes (see my comment on mortimer’s asymptotic spasm); but dumbledoresarmy’s formulation implies a rather slapdash, amorphous, emotional process — and does not convey the concerted strategy that accompanies that mass, straggling caravan of Trojan Camels that have been making their concerted way into the West for decades (increasing post-911), as patiently and assiduously as an army of ants going through apertures and perforations into a house. Actually, the army ants (or jihad ants) realized long ago they don’t need to scout out cracks and holes to get in by, since the homeowners have just left their doors and windows wide open to let in all the sunny, breezy air of the Arab Spring in…
gravenimage says
Excellent post, DDA.
gravenimage says
Voegelinian, why do you feel the need to insult your fellow Jihadists even when you are in basic agreement with them?
Even if your sneering estimation of Dumbledore’s Army was accurate–and it *is not*–none of this helps you get your points across.
voegelinian says
“The catastrophic FAILURE of most Muslim countries proves Islam is false.”
Yes; but it doesn’t prove Islam false to the majority of Muslims, as the so-asymptotic-as-to-be-well-nigh-PCMC mortimer implies In his first sentence, mortimer implies Muslims are leaving their hellholes to immigrate to the West because they are like mortimer and recognize they need to escape their horrendous Islamic societies to come to a Better, Western Life. On the contrary, we must draw the more sober conclusion; namely, that Mohammedan mass-immigration over the past few decades, increasing post-911, has been a mass exodus of infiltration in order to try to conquer: a “Jihad of the Feet”, a Reverse Hijra.
Hijra in Reverse?
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2015/02/hijra-in-reverse.html
Paladin says
Somali? Used to hot, arid $hithole deserts? Let’s see….hmmm…where’s a natural fit for these people? I know! Let’s bring her and all her welfare babies to the official home of the Somali diaspora: Minnesota! She’ll fit in there like a glove. If Britain won’t take her, I’m sure obama’s state department will find her and her whole brood a comfortable living in the frozen tundra of America’s heartland.
Babs says
Hmm …. we can send people into space, can’t we? Put them among the other flotsam and jetsam in outer space. “Nearer my allah to thee..” and all that.
Dave says
Gee! I thought ISIS was supposed to be da kine.. What happened to the romance of the Caliphate?
particolor says
You Nailed their Caper to the wall there Mate !!
Charli Main says
Not only will the ” hug a Jihadist” brigade welcome her back, she will be treated like a heroine. First stop, the benefits office for her bag of money, then quick dash to the local council office for a free house. Then enroll the little musrats in the nearest Madrassa to carry on with their ” hate and kill the kufir” lessons.
Best of all, when she has settled back to a cosy life of sucking of the kuffirs, she can start playing the ” poor muslim victim” card and complain about bigoted, racist, xenophobic and islamophobic Brits making her life a misery and how she is suffering in Britainistan.
cs says
Perfect, post deserving to be saved for pasting 10000 of times, just changing the names. It is a “beautiful” pattern of Islam.
Charli Main says
Feel free to use anything that I post, as you see fit. Change Charli Main to any other name, as you deem necessary. Anything that helps spread the truth about Islam, its plans for non-muslims and world domination, can only be good.
Goat Pimp says
Excellent Charli. You nailed the Muslim game-plan which works perfectly but only against the retarded politically-correct, moral-relativist leftists.
It is suicide to let these terror-brainwashed people back into the West.
David the Kufir says
Very well written Charli. I wish 95% of western governments belived what you just said. Additionally at least 85% of the western country”s civilian population. We would soon have this war coming to a end.
We are at war. I am sure 60% of the regulars on Jihadwatch would agree. Those that don’t have some quick learning to do.
Marty says
Obviously this woman is dangerous & hates civilisation & on no account should
be admitted to the Disunited Kingdom.
The treasonous policies of most governments and all civil servants on
mohammedan immigration has been utterly disasterous.
It has emerged that gangs of arabic speaking “British muslims” have been very
active in the importation of illegal immigrants (including IS activists) into the UK
from Calais, Boulogne, etc..
My country has is being eaten alive by several knowingly imported & terminal
cancers.
bewick says
Of course she is desperate to get back to the UK. She appears to have spawned her kids here and the chances are that they are British citizens. She knows that we Brits happily pay the jizzya. She will be given a home with no charge; she will receive significant welfare benefits including child benefit and child tax credits which will be about £65 ($100) per kid per week. There is even a very good chance that she has been collecting these benefits all along since cancelling of benefits seems low in priority when someone moves to Syria. The Government will welcome her with open arms I promise. They have already welcomed back rather a lot and have even promised not to prosecute.
RG says
Kudos to ‘bewick’ and ‘Charli Main’. You nailed it to the wall! The ‘woman’ is a complete parasite and a TRAITOR! Her kind need to be denied all further access to Britain–or any other Western democracy, for that matter!
Ariel says
She and her children should be eliminated before they set foot on British soil. Is the West stupid to permit terrorist Muslims to enter its countries as refugees and then ponder how to deal with them later?
Marty says
I agree with you 100%
Mannie says
Don’t let her back into the UK. Let her drudge out her days being brood bitch and washing head rags for barbarians. She made her bed.
ninetyninepct says
“head rags” – are you referring to the used diapers they wrap around their heads to hide their pig faces?
Paul says
My heart bleeds for her. Do us a favour, please go back to Syria and get
married to some Chechen jihadi psychopath or something. We don’t want
to see what little we can of your subnormal face ever again.
toughLove says
I really feel your you my dear but you left Briton to join the enemy so enjoy your new duties as a brood mare sex slave and they thank you for the extra fodder especially if their female.
Enjoy your new hovel.
Barrie Pugh says
I am sure the UK authorities will have her back along with her family giving her free housing and benefits.
biff says
The best case is she becomes yet another poor family sucking off the tit of the state social security system.
The worst case is her kids stay on social insurance while she becomes a female suicide bomber.
Really for a progressive that’s just all positive.
Will help destroy own country? Check.
Mark A says
She willingly and deliberately left the UK to live in territory controlled by the Islamic State, an organization British troops are currently fighting against. The words “treason” and “traitor” apply to her fully.
The UK should strip her of citizenship and refuse her entry. She now in Turkey, which is a safe haven country as far as international refugee law is concerned. She can apply for refugee status in Turkey. Otherwise, back to Somalia.
But I doubt the UK government will see it that way. If she makes it back to the UK she will probably be allowed to stay and get the dole for herself and her kids in perpetuity.
Jail? Unlikely. Wasn’t there a story on JW recently about a Muslim woman – and ISIS supporter – in the UK who didn’t get jail time for a terror related offence because the judge felt her kids needed her care?
Mark A says
I just followed the link to the Daily Telegraph story on this. It says the UK government has been in touch with this woman and that she’s getting full consular services from the UK government.
I’m guessing that means she’ll likely get UK government assistance to get back to the UK.
What a joke!
ninetyninepct says
Her husband, the male that owned her, was killed. Allah Akbar. Inshallah. = God is great, it is God’s will.
Eric says
The British will let her back in. No doubt in my mind.
steve says
Hey, sounds like she’s missing the free stuff. Maybe she found out first hand how Islamists treat their women. I say anyone who leaves their country to fight for an enemy is a traitor and should lose their citizenship. Besides, she’s deserted once how do we know she wouldn’t still be working for the enemy.
Troybeam says
Wants to come home after she leaves to help kill non Muslims, let her stay and marry another Muslim and if he dies marry another and so forth, passports should be revoked and these people who leave to fight against their nation have lost the citizenship.
Matthieu Baudin says
Unfortunately a personal story of anguish is likely to trump a rational policy of containment directed against today’s international jihad. Life is a misery for the captive populations of the new caliphate but in the modern developed world it’s still a phony war, almost as if 9/11 and the many smaller terror attacks and plots had never happened.
Larry says
Please England . If you find yourself in another war. Don’t call America this time. As you Encouraged this one on with all this immigration.knowing
full well how these people are. Perhaps some loyal Muslims will help old England out.
munchenfez says
Please don’t be hard on us Brits. We get no effing choice in what these damn appeasing scum do. We die, they spout platitudes. We need another WSC just as you need another RR.
adele says
Think of her children. They are not to blame. If she reoents give her another chance and let her give testimonies about the evil of Isis. If she really has learned her lesson.