I wouldn’t be able to physically take on a man like the one in the video–I am a 5’1″ woman–but I would sharply tell him to stop and tell him I was calling the police. I would also ask the woman to come with me. I have done this in other cases of abusive behavior, and it has always worked (at least in the short term).
This is the least anyone can do. That this happened on a crowded street in the civilized world and no one tried to stop him is *profoundly disturbing*.
Peggysays
Same height as me. How about a nasty bite to the ankles.
I would be scared to take a savage like that on too. Hopefully I would have the presence of mind to call the police, take my phone out and video it.
She probably gets treated far worse at home. I doubt she would go along with the police and let them charge him. That would make things a lot worse for her unless she is prepared to leave him then and there and disasppear.
Bettysays
i GET MAD to see some thing like that. I’m 75 and 5ft 2 119lbs I would attack. that is my problem my Irish temper comes out.
Mirren10says
”She probably gets treated far worse at home.”
The video was set up by two *actors*, in order to see what people would do.
gravenimagesays
Exactly, Mirren. But this happens in reality all the time–though usually behind closed doors.
nicusays
It’s obviously that in most ” tricky ” situations women are more brave than men – I have seen that many times myself – and feel ashamed about that .
somehistorysays
It probably is a lot of psychology at work…the woman is all covered up…which means, her female vulnerability is covered. And how many times the guys might have passed by a woman in full burqa and got the look of superiority from the woman’s face…just like from the muslim male…might have something to do with it.
In the grocery on my most recent visit, there was a muslim couple, she with the scarf and the *look* and pushing her way down the aisle, making no eye contact with anyone, whereas the other women would make eye contact when passing where I stood.
It’s harder to help someone when they isolate themselves from others. Just my thoughts on this.
Marksays
I think the first girl vid was staged and as for the islam girl well it’s there world I would keep walking also unless she rip’s off her head gear and started to run. Then I think it would have changed things for the people walking by
Jack Gordonsays
“It’s THEIR world,” not “there world”. But that embarrassingly elementary mistake in grammar speaks more directly than even this video to why we will lose to the Mohammedan thugs eventually. We have become a complacent, ill-educated, and boorish society. We content ourselves with a bumper-sticker philosophy of life like that revealed by flip comment. Then we wonder why Mohammedanism, a vicious and patently disingenuous religion, rolls over us and manages to enlist Western youth in its several campaigns of terror and mayhem. As the American street adage goes, you can’t beat something with nothing.
gravenimagesays
Mark wrote:
I think the first girl vid was staged and as for the islam girl well it’s there world
…………………..
It’s not “there world” if they’re doing it on *our streets*.
Would you be OK with Muslim ‘Honor Killing’ disobedient wives or daughters in the streets? Beheading apostates? How about stoning “adulterers” to death?
For that matter, what about their murdering Infidels? That’s what they do in “there” world, as well.
And they will believe it is their world if we allow them to act like Muslim savages here.
abadsays
Ah yes the Kitty Genovese Syndrome.
For those of us old enough to remember who Miss Genovese was.
Stewartsays
In colleges these days the popular theory is that nobody intervened during the murder of Kitty Genovese because she was a well-known lesbian and that, evidently, every single one of her neighbors without exception both A) knew this and B) were so incensed with homophobic rage that they deliberately stood by and allowed her to be murdered. And this is the level of “debate” that accepted without question.
Angemonsays
Here’s your answer: passersby do nothing, doubtless for fear of being accused of “racism,” “bigotry” and “Islamophobia.”
And by doing nothing they still risk being called all those things for not helping someone. Heads they win, tails we lose.
nicusays
So very true 🙁
nicusays
If you would defend a woman with Hijab , the men would call ” his brothers ” and you would be in trouble – real life .
Karensays
People ignoring the elephant in the room because they’ve been conditioned to (remind you of the hands-off approach to the UK Muslim rape gangs?) It might be racist to say something, do something, think bad thoughts……we reap what we sow.
citycatsays
Reap what you sow?
I hope so.
I’ve been sowing anti “supremacist” suggestions to nearby “supremacists”, via loud whispers when the situation is right for it.
My black magican friend then does it more loud, but in latin, ha ha, some heads turn, in shops, arcades, anywhere.
Every little helps, don’t you think?
Easy.
Deb Pennysays
You should do what that guy did and threaten to call the cops. If you assault the man, no way a Muslim woman will give a true account to the cops by the time they arrive. Her husband/slave master won’t let her. You will wind up in jail.
Arthursays
I think it is notable that the only person to come to the aid of the Muslim woman was actually a cop. And the cop said that he was precluded from doing anything more than calling the police because he was a cop.
They did leave out the Koranic justification for beating women from the video, which would raise the serious question of whether state law or Islamic law has superiority in the UK. Perhaps that’s just too uncomfortable?
They’re probably not interested in putting their lives on the line by white knighting for some Muslim women behind probably hates him as much as her husband/ master does. Do you see the videos of they crying with joy and expressing their gratitude to Allah, that their son “martyred” himself and is now in paradise enjoying an eternity of seventy two virgin rape .
the 2 guys that attacked the (white) wifebeater, looked pretty choreographed to me, just another fakery to generate some victimhood.
gravenimagesays
I noticed that, as well.
citycatsays
Passers by do nothing, they’re not communal, and the muslim knows, and is testing out the ground or reinforcing supremacy, part of social bullying jihad
it might not happen in some places where there’s close knitting of people, or dangerous looking people.
Depends on the jihad level etc, but it will progress from that, no matter what the level is, from very nice to suddenly speaking the truth of their Islamic assault.
Myxlpliksays
White woman in a Hijab = convert, she is in it of her free will, she chooses to be oppressed, Why should I intervene on her freedom to be owned? She got what she asked for, I’d barely slow down.
That’s not really the main point. The main point is that by joining Islam, she has joined an ideology that is at war against us and killing us and plans to kill us even more horrifically in the future.
Myxlpliksays
Exactly, a white woman in a burka is a volunteer in a cult which wants me and everything I love dead. Why would I help her? I’d be thinking maybe she’d get some sense knocked into her.
Bill Corrsays
Whether we adore or detest Islam, all sane people realize that these staged incidents are contemptible – the last resort of desperate-for-attention journalists and wannabees.
Jay Boosays
That would be a good point except — for the rampant cover-up interference industry.
Will Brandeis University allow someone like Ayaan Hirsi Ali to hold a public forum on why Muslim men feel Islam endorses this behavior?
II don’t think so.
jayellsays
“Muslim women deserve better than this.” Islam’s the cause of the problem, so they should leave islam and have nothing to to do with muslims anymore. Simple. And if any of their former ‘friends’ what to make something of it, get the Law involved and throw the book at them.
duh_swamisays
A man who abuses a woman, or a dog, in my presence is in serious danger of body damage.
It’s called ‘crisis intervention’…The crisis interventionist runs to a problem not away from them. I used to get paid for that, now I do it for free if the opportunity presents itself. There are risks of doing that, if you put yourself between an attacker and his victim, you will get attacked (which is one reason people don’t do it). So if you intervene, intervene fast and hard, and never underestimate your enemy, or anyone for that matter…
cssays
I strongly suggest we should post comments there in the youtube. I did my part. We must be winning all debates, whenever we can.
Mirren10says
My husband intervened once, in a similar situation. But it wasn’t a set-up. *He* was the one arrested.
He says he would do the same thing again, and I support that, because as gravenimage cogently points out, by doing nothing, we are sending them the signal they can do what they like and no-one will stop them.
Concerning Muslims in the West, I would rather we not do anything about their mistreatment of each other, and just round them up and deport them all to any region from among the millions of square miles that already exist of the Muslim world as that defined by most of the nations of the 56 nations under the O.I.C..where they can mistreat each other to their hearts’ content.
Angemonsays
voegelinian posted:
“Concerning Muslims in the West, I would rather we not do anything about their mistreatment of each other”
Right, much better to let them freely break our laws without suffering any repercussion.
“Concerning Muslims in the West, I would rather we not do anything about their mistreatment of each other”
Let’s see:
– Non-muslim punching muslim in the face: charged with assault, faces prison time, etc.
– Muslim punching muslim in the face: no penalty whatsoever.
Clearly, that wouldn’t give muslims the impression that they’re an untouchable class and free to settle differences between themselves however they wish, right? What of, for example, Aqsa Parvez, killed by her father for refusing to wear the hijab and for whose memory Robert and Pamela fought an uphill battle? If you had your way, voeg, muslims would literally get away with murder – and yet, you claim to be a counter-jihadi.
Marcosays
Problem is in the UK a woman who tried to help a bagged up woman who was being beaten by her husband in a grocery parking lot was arrested and put on trial. The poor “victim” sided with her husband who was beating her. Let them beat hell out of each other.
I think what you are seeing here is the dehumanizing affect of a woman in a mobile prison. When I see them first I pity them then I just stare to make them as uncomfortable as I possibly can. These body bags have no place in our society, if they want to where them move to a country where they are the norm. This a good page to register your dislike of these mobile prisons for women. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ban-the-Burka-in-North-America/380704858773072
Jay Boosays
Of course if she had ‘insulted’ Muhammad all the butt kiss appeasers of anything Islamic would applaud loudly seeking his approval for their well timed groveling.
Marcsays
The exercise proves nothing. Run it again, and it could turn out differently. There was a case where a (non-Muslim) woman was attacked on a suburban train and what happened? The passengers got up and moved to a different carriage!
In other cases, a man has intervened – only to be attacked by the bad guy =and= the woman both.
Small wonder people don’t want to intervene…
Deb Pennysays
Adults who don’t ask for help, usually don’t want it. However, this wife beating thing supposedly justified by God does give me pause about how these “men” treat their children….and their “pets”.
Greggsays
Great video.
Alarmed Pig Farmersays
As I recall God did a chapter on woman beating in the Holy Ko-Ran, so I don’t know what all the criticism in here is about. It was mainly about causing no serious injuries or leaving any marks, plus forcing her to sleep alone until she learns what’s right for her. So, how would a street hero who sees a Moslima getting beaten gonna know ahead of time that the Moslem guy is gonna seriously injure her or leave some cuts?
It is best that this difficult issue be left to the lawyers, especially the ones wearing black robes. They have law degrees.
Radical Moderatesays
That was a brave Islamophobe at the end. But to be honest I would of handled the situation different. I would of made it clear to the Muslima from the Quran that
1. allah the god she prays to, has given the right to her husband to beat her.
2. allah has also forbidden the muslims to have kuffar as friends and protectors.
So after explaining that to her, I would ask her if she wants to leave Islam. If she said no, then I would tell the husband to carry on practicing Islam on his wife.
Deb Pennysays
You would “tell” the husband? LOL The husband would punch out your lights for interfering.
cssays
That would be a good excuse to kick the ass out of him.
Mosays
I’ll say what no one else wants to say:
Whether it involves Muslims or non-Muslims, women who are beaten up by their husbands/lovers usually side with them and go back to them over and over again. I’ve seen it endless times. Had a close friend who was one of those. I even let her stay with me for a while, thinking she was FINALLY dumping this guy. Nope. She went back to him.
More often than not, they choose that relationship over your friendship.
Stewartsays
This doesn’t happen to be the work of the same people that did that staged video about Police harassing Muslims, is it?
cssays
The same people. are you surprised?
Craigsays
The same guy also spread lies about Israel last year in a video. He made entirely false statements and never bothered to correct them.
gravenimagesays
Thanks for the background, Craig. The tone of this is definitely that it is the Infidels fault, and that they are not intervening because they are “Islamophobic”.
Of course, Infidels intervening would be considered “:Islamophobic” as well.
gravenimage says
I wouldn’t be able to physically take on a man like the one in the video–I am a 5’1″ woman–but I would sharply tell him to stop and tell him I was calling the police. I would also ask the woman to come with me. I have done this in other cases of abusive behavior, and it has always worked (at least in the short term).
This is the least anyone can do. That this happened on a crowded street in the civilized world and no one tried to stop him is *profoundly disturbing*.
Peggy says
Same height as me. How about a nasty bite to the ankles.
I would be scared to take a savage like that on too. Hopefully I would have the presence of mind to call the police, take my phone out and video it.
She probably gets treated far worse at home. I doubt she would go along with the police and let them charge him. That would make things a lot worse for her unless she is prepared to leave him then and there and disasppear.
Betty says
i GET MAD to see some thing like that. I’m 75 and 5ft 2 119lbs I would attack. that is my problem my Irish temper comes out.
Mirren10 says
”She probably gets treated far worse at home.”
The video was set up by two *actors*, in order to see what people would do.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Mirren. But this happens in reality all the time–though usually behind closed doors.
nicu says
It’s obviously that in most ” tricky ” situations women are more brave than men – I have seen that many times myself – and feel ashamed about that .
somehistory says
It probably is a lot of psychology at work…the woman is all covered up…which means, her female vulnerability is covered. And how many times the guys might have passed by a woman in full burqa and got the look of superiority from the woman’s face…just like from the muslim male…might have something to do with it.
In the grocery on my most recent visit, there was a muslim couple, she with the scarf and the *look* and pushing her way down the aisle, making no eye contact with anyone, whereas the other women would make eye contact when passing where I stood.
It’s harder to help someone when they isolate themselves from others. Just my thoughts on this.
Mark says
I think the first girl vid was staged and as for the islam girl well it’s there world I would keep walking also unless she rip’s off her head gear and started to run. Then I think it would have changed things for the people walking by
Jack Gordon says
“It’s THEIR world,” not “there world”. But that embarrassingly elementary mistake in grammar speaks more directly than even this video to why we will lose to the Mohammedan thugs eventually. We have become a complacent, ill-educated, and boorish society. We content ourselves with a bumper-sticker philosophy of life like that revealed by flip comment. Then we wonder why Mohammedanism, a vicious and patently disingenuous religion, rolls over us and manages to enlist Western youth in its several campaigns of terror and mayhem. As the American street adage goes, you can’t beat something with nothing.
gravenimage says
Mark wrote:
I think the first girl vid was staged and as for the islam girl well it’s there world
…………………..
It’s not “there world” if they’re doing it on *our streets*.
Would you be OK with Muslim ‘Honor Killing’ disobedient wives or daughters in the streets? Beheading apostates? How about stoning “adulterers” to death?
For that matter, what about their murdering Infidels? That’s what they do in “there” world, as well.
And they will believe it is their world if we allow them to act like Muslim savages here.
abad says
Ah yes the Kitty Genovese Syndrome.
For those of us old enough to remember who Miss Genovese was.
Stewart says
In colleges these days the popular theory is that nobody intervened during the murder of Kitty Genovese because she was a well-known lesbian and that, evidently, every single one of her neighbors without exception both A) knew this and B) were so incensed with homophobic rage that they deliberately stood by and allowed her to be murdered. And this is the level of “debate” that accepted without question.
Angemon says
And by doing nothing they still risk being called all those things for not helping someone. Heads they win, tails we lose.
nicu says
So very true 🙁
nicu says
If you would defend a woman with Hijab , the men would call ” his brothers ” and you would be in trouble – real life .
Karen says
People ignoring the elephant in the room because they’ve been conditioned to (remind you of the hands-off approach to the UK Muslim rape gangs?) It might be racist to say something, do something, think bad thoughts……we reap what we sow.
citycat says
Reap what you sow?
I hope so.
I’ve been sowing anti “supremacist” suggestions to nearby “supremacists”, via loud whispers when the situation is right for it.
My black magican friend then does it more loud, but in latin, ha ha, some heads turn, in shops, arcades, anywhere.
Every little helps, don’t you think?
Easy.
Deb Penny says
You should do what that guy did and threaten to call the cops. If you assault the man, no way a Muslim woman will give a true account to the cops by the time they arrive. Her husband/slave master won’t let her. You will wind up in jail.
Arthur says
I think it is notable that the only person to come to the aid of the Muslim woman was actually a cop. And the cop said that he was precluded from doing anything more than calling the police because he was a cop.
They did leave out the Koranic justification for beating women from the video, which would raise the serious question of whether state law or Islamic law has superiority in the UK. Perhaps that’s just too uncomfortable?
john Lord says
They’re probably not interested in putting their lives on the line by white knighting for some Muslim women behind probably hates him as much as her husband/ master does. Do you see the videos of they crying with joy and expressing their gratitude to Allah, that their son “martyred” himself and is now in paradise enjoying an eternity of seventy two virgin rape .
marc says
the 2 guys that attacked the (white) wifebeater, looked pretty choreographed to me, just another fakery to generate some victimhood.
gravenimage says
I noticed that, as well.
citycat says
Passers by do nothing, they’re not communal, and the muslim knows, and is testing out the ground or reinforcing supremacy, part of social bullying jihad
it might not happen in some places where there’s close knitting of people, or dangerous looking people.
Depends on the jihad level etc, but it will progress from that, no matter what the level is, from very nice to suddenly speaking the truth of their Islamic assault.
Myxlplik says
White woman in a Hijab = convert, she is in it of her free will, she chooses to be oppressed, Why should I intervene on her freedom to be owned? She got what she asked for, I’d barely slow down.
voegelinian says
That’s not really the main point. The main point is that by joining Islam, she has joined an ideology that is at war against us and killing us and plans to kill us even more horrifically in the future.
Myxlplik says
Exactly, a white woman in a burka is a volunteer in a cult which wants me and everything I love dead. Why would I help her? I’d be thinking maybe she’d get some sense knocked into her.
Bill Corr says
Whether we adore or detest Islam, all sane people realize that these staged incidents are contemptible – the last resort of desperate-for-attention journalists and wannabees.
Jay Boo says
That would be a good point except — for the rampant cover-up interference industry.
Will Brandeis University allow someone like Ayaan Hirsi Ali to hold a public forum on why Muslim men feel Islam endorses this behavior?
II don’t think so.
jayell says
“Muslim women deserve better than this.” Islam’s the cause of the problem, so they should leave islam and have nothing to to do with muslims anymore. Simple. And if any of their former ‘friends’ what to make something of it, get the Law involved and throw the book at them.
duh_swami says
A man who abuses a woman, or a dog, in my presence is in serious danger of body damage.
It’s called ‘crisis intervention’…The crisis interventionist runs to a problem not away from them. I used to get paid for that, now I do it for free if the opportunity presents itself. There are risks of doing that, if you put yourself between an attacker and his victim, you will get attacked (which is one reason people don’t do it). So if you intervene, intervene fast and hard, and never underestimate your enemy, or anyone for that matter…
cs says
I strongly suggest we should post comments there in the youtube. I did my part. We must be winning all debates, whenever we can.
Mirren10 says
My husband intervened once, in a similar situation. But it wasn’t a set-up. *He* was the one arrested.
He says he would do the same thing again, and I support that, because as gravenimage cogently points out, by doing nothing, we are sending them the signal they can do what they like and no-one will stop them.
voegelinian says
Concerning Muslims in the West, I would rather we not do anything about their mistreatment of each other, and just round them up and deport them all to any region from among the millions of square miles that already exist of the Muslim world as that defined by most of the nations of the 56 nations under the O.I.C..where they can mistreat each other to their hearts’ content.
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“Concerning Muslims in the West, I would rather we not do anything about their mistreatment of each other”
Right, much better to let them freely break our laws without suffering any repercussion.
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Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“Concerning Muslims in the West, I would rather we not do anything about their mistreatment of each other”
Let’s see:
– Non-muslim punching muslim in the face: charged with assault, faces prison time, etc.
– Muslim punching muslim in the face: no penalty whatsoever.
Clearly, that wouldn’t give muslims the impression that they’re an untouchable class and free to settle differences between themselves however they wish, right? What of, for example, Aqsa Parvez, killed by her father for refusing to wear the hijab and for whose memory Robert and Pamela fought an uphill battle? If you had your way, voeg, muslims would literally get away with murder – and yet, you claim to be a counter-jihadi.
Marco says
Problem is in the UK a woman who tried to help a bagged up woman who was being beaten by her husband in a grocery parking lot was arrested and put on trial. The poor “victim” sided with her husband who was beating her. Let them beat hell out of each other.
Roy Mears says
I think what you are seeing here is the dehumanizing affect of a woman in a mobile prison. When I see them first I pity them then I just stare to make them as uncomfortable as I possibly can. These body bags have no place in our society, if they want to where them move to a country where they are the norm. This a good page to register your dislike of these mobile prisons for women. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ban-the-Burka-in-North-America/380704858773072
Jay Boo says
Of course if she had ‘insulted’ Muhammad all the butt kiss appeasers of anything Islamic would applaud loudly seeking his approval for their well timed groveling.
Marc says
The exercise proves nothing. Run it again, and it could turn out differently. There was a case where a (non-Muslim) woman was attacked on a suburban train and what happened? The passengers got up and moved to a different carriage!
In other cases, a man has intervened – only to be attacked by the bad guy =and= the woman both.
Small wonder people don’t want to intervene…
Deb Penny says
Adults who don’t ask for help, usually don’t want it. However, this wife beating thing supposedly justified by God does give me pause about how these “men” treat their children….and their “pets”.
Gregg says
Great video.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
As I recall God did a chapter on woman beating in the Holy Ko-Ran, so I don’t know what all the criticism in here is about. It was mainly about causing no serious injuries or leaving any marks, plus forcing her to sleep alone until she learns what’s right for her. So, how would a street hero who sees a Moslima getting beaten gonna know ahead of time that the Moslem guy is gonna seriously injure her or leave some cuts?
It is best that this difficult issue be left to the lawyers, especially the ones wearing black robes. They have law degrees.
Radical Moderate says
That was a brave Islamophobe at the end. But to be honest I would of handled the situation different. I would of made it clear to the Muslima from the Quran that
1. allah the god she prays to, has given the right to her husband to beat her.
2. allah has also forbidden the muslims to have kuffar as friends and protectors.
So after explaining that to her, I would ask her if she wants to leave Islam. If she said no, then I would tell the husband to carry on practicing Islam on his wife.
Deb Penny says
You would “tell” the husband? LOL The husband would punch out your lights for interfering.
cs says
That would be a good excuse to kick the ass out of him.
Mo says
I’ll say what no one else wants to say:
Whether it involves Muslims or non-Muslims, women who are beaten up by their husbands/lovers usually side with them and go back to them over and over again. I’ve seen it endless times. Had a close friend who was one of those. I even let her stay with me for a while, thinking she was FINALLY dumping this guy. Nope. She went back to him.
More often than not, they choose that relationship over your friendship.
Stewart says
This doesn’t happen to be the work of the same people that did that staged video about Police harassing Muslims, is it?
cs says
The same people. are you surprised?
Craig says
The same guy also spread lies about Israel last year in a video. He made entirely false statements and never bothered to correct them.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the background, Craig. The tone of this is definitely that it is the Infidels fault, and that they are not intervening because they are “Islamophobic”.
Of course, Infidels intervening would be considered “:Islamophobic” as well.