So asks the Daily Caller, and adds: “The Koran forbids allegiance to non-Muslim authority, preventing these congressmen from serving two masters at once. As the Koran dictates Islam is in a perpetual war against all infidels until a sharia-dominant world is established, which master do they then serve in this conflict?”
“With Obama’s Help, Assembling Allah’s Domestic Army Is Now Easier,” by James Zumwult for The Daily Caller, August 7, 2015:
If immigrants to the U.S. seek citizenship but are reluctant to take an oath of allegiance because it requires a commitment to help defend the country, what is the solution?
If the immigrants in question are Muslim and you have a pro-Muslim U.S. president, the solution is simple — just change the oath to accommodate them.
For years, the oath for citizenship included a requirement the declarant agree to “bear arms on behalf of the United States” and “perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States” when required by the law. But the U.S. Customs and Immigration Service (USCIS) now says, “a candidate may be eligible to exclude these two clauses based on religious training and belief or a conscientious objection.”
The quandary for U.S. citizen candidates who are Muslim is this: Just like America’s first two wars as a new nation were against Muslims, so too have its last two been. However, Islamic law — sharia — prohibits Muslims from fighting fellow Muslims. While this prohibition seems somewhat hypocritical in light of extensive Muslim-on-Muslim violence running rampant in the Middle East today, the concern of would-be U.S. citizen Muslims is that a non-Muslim U.S. could require they fight other Muslims.
To accommodate this concern, President Obama now gives Muslim immigrants wishing to become U.S. citizens a free pass: they no longer are required to undertake a responsibility which even he has relinquished — defending our nation against any Islamic threat.
Raymond Ibrahim’s August 6th article “Obama Alters U.S. Oath of Allegiance to Comply with Islamic Law” explains another important aspect of sharia that is at odds with Muslims taking an allegiance oath to America.
While sharia imposes the above prohibition upon Muslims gaining U.S. citizenship, it also prohibits them from giving fidelity to any non-Muslim government. The act of taking such an oath and not really meaning it is permissible in Islam under the concept of “taqqiya” — feigning loyalty to non-Muslims when necessary to do so to gain their confidence.
This was why naturalized U.S. citizen Faisal Shahzad — convicted of attempting the May 2010 Times Square car bombing only to have the fuse to his device, and his hope of killing infidels, fizzle—when asked by the judge about having taken an oath of allegiance to America said he swore it “but I didn’t mean it.”
As authority for taqqiya, Ibrahim cites Prophet Muhammad’s close companion Abu Darda, who said, “Let us grin in the face of some people while our hearts curse them.”
This is why Muslim immigrants refuse to assimilate in a host country. While retaining one’s identity is not a concern in and of itself, it is the Muslim’s purpose in doing so that is. His purpose is to use his increasing numbers to eventually wield enough influence to replace the host nation’s fundamental laws with those of sharia.
Among those who discourage assimilation by Muslim immigrants in order to support what is known as “creeping sharia” within a host nation is Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. In February 2011, he addressed thousands of Turkish immigrants in Germany, challenging them to turn Germany into Turkey by refusing to assimilate.
Years earlier, as mayor of Istanbul, Erdogan boldly proclaimed democracy was but a temporary vehicle on the journey to establish global Islam. He said: “Democracy is merely a train that we ride until we reach our goal. Mosques are our military barracks, minarets are our spears, and domes are our helmets.” The goal of Islamists, like Erdogan, is to use non-assimilation to eventually claim non-Muslim lands as Muslim.
Erdogan made the mistake of revealing his intentions at a time Turkey was still very much secular, resulting in his arrest. However, today, his efforts to take the train of democracy back to the days of the Ottoman Empire are very obvious.
Erdogan is not alone in defending non-assimilation by Muslims. As Ibrahim cites, numerous verses from the Koran support it including:
Koran 3:28: “Let believers not take for friends and allies infidels rather than believers: and whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah—unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions;” and
Koran 58:22: True Muslims do not befriend non-Muslims “even if they be their fathers, sons, brothers, or kin.”
Lest we simply ignore the above sharia mandate in the interests of political correctness, we should reflect upon incidents in which Muslims have chosen the loyalty of religion over that of country — with deadly consequences for U.S. citizens. While there are several, among them are:
– The April 2005 grenade attack by U.S. Army soldier Hasan Akbar, prompted by his concern over U.S. troops killing his fellow Muslims in Iraq. He killed two and wounded 14.
– The November 2009 Fort Hood shooting by Major Nidal Hasan, prompted by his concern he would be deploying to the Middle East. Rather than doing so, he turned his weapon upon his true enemy—fellow U.S. soldiers—killing 13 and wounding more than thirty.
Ibrahim observes of the former incident: “In short, the first loyalty of any ‘American Muslim’ who follows the Koran is to fellow Muslims, regardless of their nationality. It is not to American ‘infidels.’”
Of the latter incident, he adds: “Much of Hasan’s behavior is grounded in the Islamic doctrine of Loyalty and Enmity. According to this essential teaching, Muslims must always be loyal to Islam and fellow Muslims while having enmity for all non-Islamic things and persons.”
It is chilling to reflect on statements by Islamist supporters such as Tarik Shah who, residing in the U.S., sought to assist al-Qaeda establish training camps here. Arrested in 2005, he boasted, “I could be joking and smiling (with non-Muslims) and then cutting their throats in the next second.”
The two observations above by Ibrahim should cause us to ask a question which, due to political correctness, never will: Where do the loyalties of two current Muslim members of Congress lie?
The Koran forbids allegiance to non-Muslim authority, preventing these congressmen from serving two masters at once. As the Koran dictates Islam is in a perpetual war against all infidels until a sharia-dominant world is established, which master do they then serve in this conflict?
Either these two congressmen are true Muslims serving Allah and, therefore, unable to serve America, or, they are true patriots serving the U.S. and, therefore, unable to serve Allah. The latter, incidentally, would make them apostates under sharia — a crime punishable by death….
jihad3tracker says
******* EXCELLENT AND WAY OVERDUE ARTICLE ! ! ! *******
Every reader here should put this JW blog post in their “essential” file. At the very least, they have been on a seditionist path for YEARS — ever since taking the oath of office.
ELLISON’S HAND ON THE QUR’AN — TOTALLY OBSCENELY IN CONFLICT WITH OUR CONSTITUTION.
Search and save all relevant web articles you can possibly find on them — particularly statements about “Islamophobia” — before that evidence is scrubbed out of the record.
jihad3tracker says
Send this post on to your federal, state, and local elected officials, AND INCLUDE DIRECTION TO ROBERT’S CREDENTIALS AT THE HOME PAGE TOP ( “ABOUT ROBERT SPENCER” ).
mortimer says
“ELLISON’S HAND ON THE QUR’AN” ??
The Koran requires he subjugate the disbelievers and hate them as ‘the worst of beasts’.
By swearing on the Koran, Ellison swore to help overthrow the Constitution.
Shmooviyet says
There was a large segment of the local population that was utterly impressed by the exotic-ness or ‘cool’ of Ellison taking his oath on something other than the Bible. For others it began as an odd, creepy moment and has grown into a real distrust and fear of what he truly stands for as they learn more about him, his beliefs, and his associations.
Yet he’s assured of a long ride as a MN politician– by the D after his name, the adoration he receives from the growing islamic population, and the desperately non-‘racist’ citizens who’ll SCREAM in your face if you dare question his motivation.
Ray Lanfear says
All lives due matter, not just black lives.
Political correctness on Islam is the issue of our time for all candidates. We all should be tired of the Islamic advance in America and the PC given to Islam. Enough is enough forget about PC. A clear and present danger. It is long overdue to forget about political correctness and watch out for all Mosques, and the Imans that preach the hate and violence toward America with their Quran and Sharia law. And now Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has called upon 10,000 blacks to kill all whites, and got a standing ovation at his church. He cites Islam and the Quran for justification to kill whites. Why he is not arrested for his hate and call to violence, which would come under a terrorist is beyond me.
The “Trojan Horse” is here and in your neighborhood. Its time to investigate all Mosques before further homeland attacks occur on our military, far too many Imans preach hate and violence toward America. How many more attacks will it take until America gets the message?4 Marines and one sailor are dead, as a direct result of the Mosques, Islam and the Quran what more is there to know?Have studied Islam and the Quran for several years now, have been inside Mosques and spoken to their Inmans. Let there be no mistake about it. Islam, from its beginning, has been a religion of the sword. The concept of Holy War (Jihad) mandated by Allah, requires all of Islam to completely subdue the earth through military and violent conquest. The Quran says it all. When will America wake up? One sad sick religion. They place a premium on death versus life. They will never grasp the concept of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness on earth. Women are treated as a sub class under Islam with no rights at all. They will never adapt to our customs and culture but rather want to force Islam and Sharia upon the World.. And if they can take a Jew, Christian or infidel to their death along with them, they view it as an honor. Like it or not, politcally correct or not, we are at War with Islam. And until America recognizes that fact, more tragic deaths will result. Sharia law will continue to expand. . Mosques are hiding places for terrorists and we have 3400 plus in America. Read the truth here about Islam and the Quran and Sharia. Get a copy of “heretic” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali. a former Muslim that speaks from experience.. Violence is inherit in Islam. it is not a religion of peace. When they are praying 5 times per day they are praying for death to Jews Christians and infidels and most people are clueless. The threat is real folks. Read the book now and get the real truth. Also google “theprojectmuslimbrotherhood” and see their plan to destroy America from within. Again read the book “Heretic” a must read for all America, for truth about Islam.
john spielman says
the obvious solution is to ban members of a certain fascist quasi religious death cult (islam) from being eligible for citizenship in the first place and strip it from those who have it as they have lied to get it. those born in the USA must renounce this fascist quasi religious death cult in order to obtain US citizenship. non citizens then can be deported
mortimer says
JS wrote: “solution is to ban members of a certain fascist quasi religious death cult”
This may be close to the answer. Since there is so much sedition and conspiracy in Islam and hatred of the disbelievers, the Koran and hadiths may eventually be considered by most people to be as toxic as Mein Kampf. Those who have studied Islam’s source texts realize they have more hatred of Jews and ‘others’ than Mein Kampf. Over 60% of the Koran is the argument that disbelievers are evil and should be subjugated or exterminated.
Shmooviyet says
Agreed.
Vlasta Molak says
Clearly Islam ITSELF, as written in Koran, Sira and Hadith is not compatible with the US Constitution and,therefore has no place in the US.
Chinese Communists KNOW what totalitarian ideologies such as Islam and Communism do, and they had banned anybody under 18 to enter teh mosques and also banned the Haj (going to Mecca from China) as Muslims get radicalized in Saudi Arabia and come back ready to murder and die for Allah.
gravenimage says
Vlasta Molak wrote:
Chinese Communists KNOW what totalitarian ideologies such as Islam and Communism do, and they had banned anybody under 18 to enter teh mosques and also banned the Haj (going to Mecca from China) as Muslims get radicalized in Saudi Arabia and come back ready to murder and die for Allah.
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I’m afraid this is mistaken.
“If China Is Anti-Islam, Why Are These Chinese Muslims Enjoying a Faith Revival?”
http://time.com/3099950/china-muslim-hui-xinjiang-uighur-islam/
People often believe that it is only the West that indulges in dhimmi behavior, and that China–or Russia–have even banned Islam outright. None of this is the case.
Despite sporadic and rather random crackdowns, the fact is that authoritarian nations are generally not doing any better in the fight against Jihad than is the West.
underbed cat says
While watching the reports on the massive explosions in China Teinsien City purportedly a chemical plant explosion in a harbor, I wondered is this jihad. Then I. heard the company managers had been arrested which seems to be the case many times in China. I felt sickened by the thought that they may not have been responsible if someone decided to martyr for Allah.
Westman says
How is the mandate of, “..Let believers not take for friends and allies infidels rather than believers: and whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah.” , any different than than the KKK prohibiting members to not befriend black people? Even the KKK didn’t have written doctrines of how to kill and maim.
Islam is “ethnic racism” to the extreme. It seems that when one is confronted with cries of “racism” or “islamophobia” when pointing out actual documented problems with Islam, one should respond with:
Islam promotes Ethnic Racism against unbelievers. Here’s a challenge to the trolls – show us using the Quran and Hadith how inclusive Islam is to the unbelievers, infidels, etc.
Islam is Ethnically Racist.
ECAW says
Wrong. Islam promotes a religious apartheid and hatred towards unbelievers but I see no racism in the Koran or even “ethnic racism” whatever that might be.
You are just doing what the opposition do but in reverse – shouting “Racist” as a generalised insult.
Westman says
ECAW,
Actually I’m not shouting but pointing out that when Muslims say unbelivers are racists it is just as legitimate to say to them that, based on THEIR definition and use of the term of “racism” , that they are more than equivalent “racists” because their demeaning of unbelievers is not simply individual, but actually enshrined in their scriptures.
You have not shown otherwise but in fact have confirmed the equivalency. It’s just the same in reverse so why not use it as the reponse, even if it not actually, intended? We are attempting to find tools to stop the use of “islamophobia” and “racism” at us for documenting the faults of Islam.
If an interviewer asked Choudary or Aslan if the directive to eschew unbelievers and in fact kill those that refuse to become Muslims, or be subjected and pay jizya, if that is Ethnic Racism, how shocked they might be to be wearing the shoe they designed for others.
Def. Ethnicity – the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.
Americans are an Ethnic group under the common National Constitutionally guaranteed cultural tradition of freedom. American patriot “unbelievers” are an ethnic group.
Westman says
One might note that much of the world’s Islamic Mahem is Muslim on Muslim. When one group of Muslims, say Sunni, start killing Shia Muslims(or vice versa) for their differences in religious tradition and cultural practice, it is in fact, based on ethnicity.
Daesh takes it further to Ethnic Genocide.
ECAW says
Westman – The definition I found is this:
an ethnic group; a social group that shares a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like
It strikes me as being so vague as to be useless. If you wish to slice it as fine as:
“American patriot “unbelievers” are an ethnic group.”
then where do we stop? Are French patriot unbelievers an ethnic group? What about French patriot unbelievers who think Islamism is the problem as opposed to those who think Islam is the problem?
Suppose I accept the definition of ethnicity above. If someone dislikes you because of your ethnicity then they might be ethnicist but where does racism come in? I am old fashioned and think racism should only relate to race. If you criticise the two Congressman above for their race that might be racist but if you criticise them for their religion that is not racist.
The correct response to being called racist for criticising Islam must be pointing out the nonsense of it. If you think that returning the name calling is correct than you must be accepting their use of the word is also correct. You can’t have it both ways.
Westman says
ECAW,
Of course it’s meaningless. But it may be a useful tool when someone makes the accusation of “racist” to an unbeliever to simply ask, “if that is true, Isn’t Islam, then, Ethnically racist?” Some won’t even know what Ethnic means, let alone recognize their own misuse of the word racist. They will need time to think.
ECAW says
Westman – So, when you initially said “Islam is ethnically racist” you didn’t mean it literally but were only proposing it as a debating ploy to show up the nonsense of the opposition’s habitual charges of racism.
I think I understand now.
Westman says
Yes, that was the intention.
Here is another that could be used for the Muslim immigrants who get citizenship while refusing to pledge allegiance: Patriotophobes, pronounced patri-aught-o-phobes.
It could be used in a sentence like, “Are these two Muslim Congressmen(or Reza Aslan) loyal Americans or closet Patriotophobes?”
duh_swami says
Allah is a racist…It’s simple…Allah is an Arabic god, who writes books in Arabic for Arabs, in Arab lands. He selected an Arab as his apostle and messenger…Arabs are the ‘best of people’;, the best looking with the best hair…While all Mahounbdians may be equal, some (Arabs) are a little more equal than others…
ECAW says
Charles Dickens was an English novelist who wrote books in English for English people, in England and selected Englishmen as the heroes of his books. I don’t think that makes him a racist. Everyone’s got to be born somewhere – even Allah. And my understanding has always been that Muslims were the “best of peoples” not Arabs.
gravenimage says
ECAW, Islam actually is Arab supremacist. And almost all Muslims look down on black people and consider them slaves.
The main focus of Islam is against Infidels, but it is also not the egalitarian faith Muslims would like the Kuffar to believe.
ECAW says
Morning gravenimage – I accept all that you say about Arabs thinking themselves above other Muslims and Blacks but I can find no basis for it in the Koran (Duh Swami’s original claim was that Allah is racist). Mo’s division of humanity into ubermenschen and untermenschen is based squarely on their acceptance or not of his bugaboo god Allah and much more importantly his own prophethood.
Searching the Koran for “Arab” using:
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/
I can only find:
Yusuf
[12.2] Surely We have revealed it– an Arabic Quran– that you may understand.
The Thunder
[13.37] And thus have We revealed it, a true judgment in Arabic, and if you follow their low desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you shall not have against Allah any guardian or a protector.
The Bee
[16.103] And certainly We know that they say: Only a mortal teaches him. The tongue of him whom they reproach is barbarous, and this is clear Arabic tongue.
Ta Ha
[20.113] And thus have We sent it down an Arabic Quran, and have distinctly set forth therein of threats that they may guard (against evil) or that it may produce a reminder for them.
The Poets
[26.195] In plain Arabic language.
The Clans
[33.20] They think the allies are not gone, and if the allies should come (again) they would fain be in the deserts with the desert Arabs asking for news about you, and if they were among you they would not fight save a little.
The Companions
[39.28] An Arabic Quran without any crookedness, that they may guard (against evil).
Ha Mim
[41.3] A Book of which the verses are made plain, an Arabic Quran for a people who know:
[41.44] And if We had made it a Quran in a foreign tongue, they would certainly have said: Why have not its communications been made clear? What! a foreign (tongue) and an Arabian! Say: It is to those who believe a guidance and a healing; and (as for) those who do not believe, there is a heaviness in their ears and it is obscure to them; these shall be called to from a far-off place.
The Counsel
[42.7] And thus have We revealed to you an Arabic Quran, that you may warn the mother city and those around it, and that you may give warning of the day of gathering together wherein is no doubt; a party shall be in the garden and (another) party in the burning fire.
Ornaments of Gold
[43.3] Surely We have made it an Arabic Quran that you may understand.
The Sandhills
[46.12] And before it the Book of Musa was a guide and a mercy: and this is a Book verifying (it) in the Arabic language that it may warn those who are unjust and as good news for the doers of good.
gravenimage says
Hi ECAW. Arab supremacism may just be implied in the Qur’an, but it is quite explicit in the Hadith, the Sira, and in later Muslim commentary:
Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah’s Apostle said, “You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin.”
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And ibn Ishaq, Muhammed’s biographer, attributed racist attitudes to the “Prophet”. Later important Muslim commentators such as Al-Tabari, were both Arab supremacists and racists.
Black Muslims, while not considered mainstream Muslims, have taken Islam’s essential racism and posited it as black supremacism.
And besides the usual denigration of blacks, there are also the white victims of Muslim rape:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/raymond-ibrahim-why-muslim-rapists-prefer-blondes-a-history
So–is Allah racist?
Not that I believe Allah exists, but one could certainly make a case for it.
But, as I noted before, the major fault line in Islam is against the unbelievers. Islam’s nasty racist tendencies are, like its vicious misogyny, just “icing” on a particularly diseased cake.
Anyway, an interesting topic.
Jaladhi says
>“Where do the loyalties of two current Muslim members of Congress lie?”<
Ha, ha,ha, if we have to ask this question then there are no bigger morons than us!!
Of course the world wide ummah is their country and they are simply biding their time for the caliphate to come to USA!1
Lynn says
Yes, they are merely place holders.
We must never forget what Hasan Al-Banna expressed as the founder of the muslim brotherhood: “It is the nature of islam to dominate not to be dominated; to impose it’s laws on all nations and to extend it’s power to the entire planet.”
These 2 are no different than our potus. They are pro muslim as apposed to pro American.
PRCS says
An otherwise excellent article, flawed by:
“Prophet Muhammad”
Does Mr. Zumwalt also use the titles Prophet Moses or Prophet Jesus?
“the fight against Islamic extremism”
After correctly noting what Islam prohibits and what it expects of Allah’s every slave, how does he then conclude that compliance constitutes “extremism”?
underbed cat says
For some people the name was suspect, for others it was diversity. But using the Koran to swear in a congressman or senator to political office to affect decisions in the U.S. shows no one opened the book and read it. Now finally it is finally coming out the decision made by a leader who could never really take an oath to the constitution but only to the community that the Koran represents, and has his smile to reassure his commitment to the U.S.. Excuse me…but another article written about this could soon be front center news in my opinion. It was about intent. Then the feathers will fly.
underbed cat says
Opps I just got the “finger ” picture….must be a warning.
Sam says
“The Koran forbids allegiance to non-Muslim authority, preventing these congressmen from serving two masters at once. As the Koran dictates Islam is in a perpetual war against all infidels until a sharia-dominant world is established, which master do they then serve in this conflict?”
This can not be really true as “iSLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE”. The problem is every Moslem misunderstands it and becomes violent often. That’s all, you know.
Angemon says
Not really. The muslims fighting one another deem the muslims they’re fighting against as not being muslims but heretics.
“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other“. Incidentally, my money’s on the former – they’re placing allegiance to their correligionists before the interests of the US.
somehistory says
You quote Christ in His instructions on serving God or mammon. And what He said is true.
somehistory says
An easy question to answer. Much like asking, “Is the sun hot?” Easy answer.
Where does their loyalty lie? Just as easy to answer.
Wellington says
It is impossible to be a devout Muslim and a patriotic American at one and the same time. One might be able to be a “so-so” Muslim, which means such a person is actually ignorant of their own faith and still a patriotic American, but even here such patriotism rests upon ignorance of Islam and patriotism resting upon any kind of major ignorance is patriotism that cannot, nor should not, be counted on (someone like Zuhdi Jasser comes to mind here).
Bottom line: One can be an informed Muslim or one can be an American patriot. No way you can be both. By now, one knows this or should know it. Therefore, every Muslim, yes every last Muslim in America, should be considered an actual or potential fifth columnist (ditto for other totalitarians such as Aryan Nation members and Communist Party adherents).
I would be interested in the argument that would dispute my thesis here, that would attempt to demonstrate why I am wrong. I would contend that no such argument, if forthcoming, could be convincing, not even half-so—-not even half-so of half-so. But give it a shot any Muslim or any obsequious dhimmi. Oh yeah, give it a shot.
Islam in any Western nation, precisely to the extent that it exists (and precisely too to the extent that foolish dhmmis defend Islam in a Western nation) is a mortal threat to liberty, equality under the law, and other wonderful things like, oh let’s see here, musical theater, fine beer and wine, and fun in general——also other important things like a true Golden Rule for all, in-tact clitorises and, apparently too, even having one’s daughter saved from drowning. Yes, indeed, the list is a very long one of what Islam is a threat to. Actually, it’s an almost infinite list. And so I would here rest my case while I go for a fine libation which of course, were Muzzies in charge, would deny me. Well, yet again I rest my case.
Ray Lanfear says
Very well said. All lives due matter, not just black lives.
Political correctness on Islam is the issue of our time for all candidates. We all should be tired of the Islamic advance in America and the PC given to Islam. Enough is enough forget about PC. A clear and present danger. It is long overdue to forget about political correctness and watch out for all Mosques, and the Imans that preach the hate and violence toward America with their Quran and Sharia law. And now Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has called upon 10,000 blacks to kill all whites, and got a standing ovation at his church. He cites Islam and the Quran for justification to kill whites. Why he is not arrested for his hate and call to violence, which would come under a terrorist is beyond me.
The “Trojan Horse” is here and in your neighborhood. Its time to investigate all Mosques before further homeland attacks occur on our military, far too many Imans preach hate and violence toward America. How many more attacks will it take until America gets the message?4 Marines and one sailor are dead, as a direct result of the Mosques, Islam and the Quran what more is there to know?Have studied Islam and the Quran for several years now, have been inside Mosques and spoken to their Inmans. Let there be no mistake about it. Islam, from its beginning, has been a religion of the sword. The concept of Holy War (Jihad) mandated by Allah, requires all of Islam to completely subdue the earth through military and violent conquest. The Quran says it all. When will America wake up? One sad sick religion. They place a premium on death versus life. They will never grasp the concept of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness on earth. Women are treated as a sub class under Islam with no rights at all. They will never adapt to our customs and culture but rather want to force Islam and Sharia upon the World.. And if they can take a Jew, Christian or infidel to their death along with them, they view it as an honor. Like it or not, politcally correct or not, we are at War with Islam. And until America recognizes that fact, more tragic deaths will result. Sharia law will continue to expand. . Mosques are hiding places for terrorists and we have 3400 plus in America. Read the truth here about Islam and the Quran and Sharia. Get a copy of “heretic” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali. a former Muslim that speaks from experience.. Violence is inherit in Islam. it is not a religion of peace. When they are praying 5 times per day they are praying for death to Jews Christians and infidels and most people are clueless. The threat is real folks. Read the book now and get the real truth. Also google “theprojectmuslimbrotherhood” and see their plan to destroy America from within. Again read the book “Heretic” a must read for all America, for truth about Islam.
Edward says
A Muslim’s human ethical nature are akin to those of an animal world’s chameleon!
Stealthy, by always changing its colors to achieve their generational tribal objectives!
These two Muslim politicians are getting their way by planted insiders. That’s why they are always seen with smart confident smiles.
gravenimage says
“Where do the loyalties of two current Muslim members of Congress lie?”
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Damn good question. It’s not with the United States of America…
And Keith Ellison, at least, swore his oath on the Qur’an–a book that mandates Muslim supremacy and the oppression and murder of Infidels.
More:
More:
However, Islamic law — sharia — prohibits Muslims from fighting fellow Muslims. While this prohibition seems somewhat hypocritical in light of extensive Muslim-on-Muslim violence running rampant in the Middle East today, the concern of would-be U.S. citizen Muslims is that a non-Muslim U.S. could require they fight other Muslims.
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They will never fight other Muslims at the side of the “filthy Infidel”. It is part of Shari’ah law that a Muslim can never really be punished for what he does to the Kuffar.
More:
This was why naturalized U.S. citizen Faisal Shahzad — convicted of attempting the May 2010 Times Square car bombing only to have the fuse to his device, and his hope of killing infidels, fizzle—when asked by the judge about having taken an oath of allegiance to America said he swore it “but I didn’t mean it.”
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This is the case with the vast majority of naturalized Muslims–and not just in America, but throughout Dar-al-Harb.
mach37 says
The Muslim excuse for fighting other Muslims: they believe that the ones they have a beef with are infidels – not TRUE Muslims. All the support they seem to need is their own personal opinion.
gravenimage says
Very true, Mach.
There is even a dedicated Muslim doctrine for this: Takfir, where a Muslim is deemed “apostate”, “heretical”, or “insufficiently Islamic”, and hence may be slaughtered like any other Infidel.
Tiredofstupid says
Went out dancing tonight and had a cold beer and had a couple more at home. Really enjoyed myself. Can’t do that under Islam, but I do think that Ellison and co are honorable men and true to their oath of office but just happen to espouse a muslim point of view on all issues ( as they should-look at their constituents). on the comments- Yes I concur–we should, hell the entire world should, – outlaw the quran and Islam as a criminal ideology and not as a real religion. Westman and ECAW–I’d go with religionist–I don’t believe on the evidence that Islam is racist( they hate everybody not muslim) or ethnicist (they hate anyone that doesn’t agree with their version of the best religion) Nope, I’m convinced by my own arguments. Dangerous, I kniow. However regionist seems to be the word that fits. Wellington- I agree 100% percent. The muslims tell us repeatedly that they will subjugate us and enslave our women and children, We should take them at their word. In their own way, muslims are honorable men–they told us in advance they were going to conquer us, and that’s what they mean to do. Doesn’t matter what lies they tell us along the way.
Some of you posters on BNI Jihad Watch and Pam/atlas are good enough and cogent enough you should be writing columns on the incoming and existing Muslim threat in the westt. Especially you guys in europe and southeast asia. Everywhere islam goes , so goes terror and war and despair, without fail, You on the front lines should be chronicling it so the rest of us can deseminate the truth of Islam to the rest of the world to stop it. I urge you all (well mostly-you know who) to obtain a carry permit for your state and be prepared, Remember that you are the knowledgeable shepherds protecting the flock from the islamic wolves and their ilk. Mnnn Finished 6 pack-good beer
mach37 says
Will US politicians EVER come to their senses and recognize that anyone who claims to follow the teachings in the Quran is not able to conscientiously abide by the First Amendment? Eventually the US constitution must be modified to recognize that true believers in Islam are not worthy of support by the US constitution.
Cliffhild says
We have the same problem in the UK. See:
http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/uk/uk-record-13-muslim-mps-elected-8-of-them-women/
RAM says
Andre Carson & family invited Louis Farrakhan a few years ago to be a featured speaker at the Indianapolis funeral of Congresswoman Julia Carson (D, IN)..
voegelinian says
While sharia imposes the above prohibition upon Muslims gaining U.S. citizenship, it also prohibits them from giving fidelity to any non-Muslim government. The act of taking such an oath and not really meaning it is permissible in Islam under the concept of “taqqiya” — feigning loyalty to non-Muslims when necessary to do so to gain their confidence.
And yet the Counter-Jihad Softies insist that Muslims who have citizenship in America (or in any other Western polity) are really citizens, and not rather a collective of seditious Trojan Camels, and that our conferral of citizenship upon any Muslim has been a terrible, disastrous mistake — legally and pragmatically for our exigent safety. When will the Counter-Jihad put two and two together, and begin to do the math…? Until they do so, they stand tall in their no-nonsense “I’m against Islam, not Muslims” stance, saluting our ship of state that’s going down, the U.S. Constitutional Suicide Pact (a brand-spanking refurbishment of the mothballed H.M.S. Titanic…).
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“And yet the Counter-Jihad Softies insist that Muslims who have citizenship in America (or in any other Western polity) are really citizens, and not rather a collective of seditious Trojan Camels”
And yet, you are unable to give an example of anyone saying that. Of course, it’s up to the state to say who is and who isn’t a citizen, and there are laws and procedures in place governing that call, but I guess they mean nothing to you.
“When will the Counter-Jihad put two and two together, and begin to do the math…?”
From “Counter-Jihad Softies” to”the Counter-Jihad” without passing “GO” and collecting $200? Hmmm, I it’s almost like you consider “Counter-Jihad Softies” and “the Counter-Jihad” to be synonyms…
“Until they do so, they stand tall in their no-nonsense “I’m against Islam, not Muslims” stance, saluting our ship of state that’s going down, the U.S. Constitutional Suicide Pact (a brand-spanking refurbishment of the mothballed H.M.S. Titanic…).”
I guess you speak for all the Counter-Jihad now, despite all your years undermining, deriding and lying about its forefront figures? Who died and made you the CJ spokesperson?
Linda Rivera says
Muslim in U.S.: “I could be joking and smiling (with non-Muslims) and then cutting their throats in the next second.”
This is taught in the BLOOD SOAKED Quran and it is why it is an ACT OF TREASON to allow any Muslims into America, Britain, Europe and other non-Muslim nations.
WHEREVER THERE ARE MUSLIMS, NON-MUSLIMS WILL NEVER BE SAFE.