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Ahmadi Muslim leader claims Ben Carson’s words “intolerant and wrong,” dissembles about political aspects of Sharia

Sep 23, 2015 1:13 pm By Robert Spencer

Still more deceptions and half-truths from the smug and disingenuous Islamic supremacist Qasim Rashid. My remarks are interspersed below.

Qasim Rashid

“Make No Mistake, Ben Carson’s Comments About A Muslim President Were Intolerant, And Wrong,” by Qasim Rashid, Daily Caller, September 21, 2015:

“I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation … I absolutely would not agree with that.”

Replace “Muslim” with Catholic, or Jew, or woman — and ask if you feel any differently about the above statement. Because historically speaking, each of these demographics have had to suffer through this exact form of public discrimination, and in each case the intolerant voice ended up on the wrong side of history. Thus, hopefully you understand why it is unacceptable for GOP presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson to promote such narrow-mindedness against American Muslims.

“Historically speaking, each of these demographics have had to suffer through this exact form of public discrimination…” Actually not. Neither Catholics or Jews had ever carried out a terrorist attack that killed several thousand Americans and that was justified by its perpetrators by reference to the texts and teachings of their religion. Neither Catholics nor Jews had leaders who triumphantly boasted of their imminent conquest of the U.S. Neither Catholics or Jews had terror organizations that issued repeated calls for believers in the U.S. to murder American officials and ordinary citizens. Neither Catholicism nor Judaism contains a supremacist component that requires believers to work for the imposition of Catholic or Jewish law on a non-believing populace.

In sum, there are plenty of reasons to be concerned about a Muslim President, in light of the political aspects of Sharia, which are authoritarian and supremacist. To liken this concern to nativist paranoia and hostility to Catholics and Jews is a cheap rhetorical trick that ignores the reality of jihad terror and the justifiable response to it among non-Muslims.

Dr. Carson provided the above response when he was asked whether Islam is consistent with the United States Constitution. Let’s pause. Dr. Carson is not a Muslim, let alone an Islamic theologian. Likewise, Dr. Carson is not a lawyer, let alone a Constitutional scholar. With two strikes against him, the safe bet would’ve been to recite the First Amendment protection of religious freedom, and likewise America’s strong commitment to a separation of religion and state. One need not be an Islamic scholar or a Constitutional scholar to provide this basic answer.

I have refuted Qasim Rashid’s lies many times — see here for all the links — and all Rashid, a supremely arrogant and hateful man, ever says in response that he won’t respond to anything but a peer-reviewed academic article, as if his Daily Caller dawah were peer-reviewed. And here again his first impulse to refute Carson is not to prove him wrong with any evidence, but to impugn his knowledge of Islam and the Constitution. Ad hominem attacks seem to be the only tool in Rashid’s box.

But with two strikes already against him, Dr. Carson struck out when he instead advocated against a Muslim becoming President because of their faith. Dr. Carson did not hold fast to foundational Constitutional principles, but instead demonstrated his ignorance of both Islam and the Constitution.

Of course, the Constitution is explicitly clear in Article VI, paragraph 3 that, “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.” America’s founding fathers sought to escape religious persecution, not create a nation with more religious discrimination. None other than George Washington wrote, in a letter, that he would welcome “Mahometans” to his estate, provided they were “good workers.” Thomas Jefferson likewise incessantly demanded recognition of equal religious freedoms and rights of the “Mahamdan, the Jew, and the pagan.” American history records that Benjamin Rush, the Pennsylvania signer of the Declaration of Independence and friend of Adams and Jefferson, applauded Islam, asserting that he would “rather see the opinions of Confucius or Mohammed inculcated upon our youth than see them grow up wholly devoid of a system of religious principles.”

America’s founders saw no conflict between Islam and the United States Constitution. Who then, is Dr. Carson to disagree?

Surprise: Rashid is not being quite honest here. He doesn’t mention that Thomas Jefferson met with Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman, and then reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right to seize American ships and enslave their crews] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” Does Rashid think that Jefferson reported this approvingly?

In any case, the problem with a Muslim President is not religious, it’s political. Islam has a political aspect that is supremacist and authoritarian, as is obvious from the nature of Sharia states around the world (cf. Saudi Arabia and Iran). That was what Carson was concerned about it. Rashid is, probably intentionally, obfuscating the issue.

And should Dr. Carson study the Qur’an, he would discover that Islam does not specify any specific form of government, other than a beneficent government based on absolute justice. In 4:59 God declares, “Allah commands you to give over the trusts to those entitled to them, and that when you judge between men you judge with justice.” This is a critical point. Dr. Carson should take note that the Qur’an commands that justice — not religion, gender, or race — is the standard by which a government must run. In complete cohesion to this Qur’anic teaching, the United States Constitution likewise seeks to rule with justice and rejects religion, gender, or race as the determinative factor to govern. Accordingly, the U.S. Constitution is in fact the most Shariah compliant Constitution in existence today.

This is more cheap rhetorical sleight of hand. The U.S. Constitution is not at all Sharia-compliant, because it allows for the freedom of speech and equality of rights of all before the law, rather than providing penalties for blasphemy and institutionalizing discrimination against women and non-Muslims. Also, “justice” in an Islamic context means Islamic law, which is considered the law of Allah, and therefore perfect and valid for all time. The Qur’an says: “It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision” (33:36). That rules out the idea of elected officials legislating, except within the context of acceptance of Sharia. For Allah “makes none to share in His Decision and His Rule” (18:26). Indeed, “whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed is among the disbelievers” (5:44).

Rashid then goes on to proselytize for his Ahmadi faith, without bothering to tell his readers that his is a minuscule sect among Muslims, constituting less than two percent of Muslims worldwide and despised and persecuted as heretical in Pakistan and Indonesia. He sets it forth as if it were mainstream Islam, thereby lulling Americans into complacency and furthering their ignorance of the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat. With his steady stream of misleading, deceptive dawah pieces, Rashid is apparently determined to ensure that those who are persecuting his people in Pakistan and Indonesia have a free hand to implement their agenda here in the U.S.

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  1. jihad3tracker says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    Perhaps some of the notorious truth-mongerers here at JW would like to post a comment at the Daily Caller.

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    WORTH THE FEW MINUTES TO WATCH, AND SEND ON TO CANDIDATES IN THEIR WEBSITE “WHAT’S ON YOUR MIND?” PAGE: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/search/label/Taqiyya

    • mortimer says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 1:40 pm

      Qasim Rashid is a professional taqiyya-meister.

      • Huck Folder says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 8:48 pm

        And every single ‘ahmadi’ on this planet
        is a bigger hypocrite than the zombie
        worshipers of mo they pretend to be.

        The cold-blooded MURDER of the Banu Qurayza*
        gets a high five from these lick-spittle pricks.
        They deserve all the shit that Fuckistan throws
        at them, and more. THEY should end like BQ.

        They are quintessential water-carriers
        for the vilest CULT to ever infest this planet.
        If they come across as a ‘kinder, gentler’
        moslem, that’s their act.

        IF they ever want to be what they and their leaders
        claim to be, they will have to throw out 70-90%
        of “The Book of Hate™”.

        “The World Head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat and Fifth Khalifa, Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad said: “It is a dire need of the time to respond to all forms of fanaticism and extremism with Islam’s true message of peace and harmony.”

        Yeah, that and two bucks gets you a cup of coffee!

        • analiser says

          Sep 23, 2015 at 10:26 pm

          dont blindly hate..

          on my view, islam have 3 branch: ahmadi/ahmadiyya, sunni, Shiite/shia.

          – Of the total Muslim population, ahmadiyya is around 1%, Sunni is 87-90%, Shia is 10-13%
          – ahmadiyya the most peacefull/tolerant among all islam branch. they view jihad as internal struggle.
          – sunni and shia is the most violence. they do violence jihad.
          – ahmadiyya is controversial. in several case, sunni/shia said ahmadiyya is not islam branch.
          – ahmadiyya voice only represent 1% muslim population, doesnt have much effect

          still.. in my opinion islam is the most worst ideology.

        • Angemon says

          Sep 24, 2015 at 8:56 pm

          analiser posted:

          “– ahmadiyya the most peacefull/tolerant among all islam branch. they view jihad as internal struggle.”

          Not really. They don’t consider offensive jihad an imperative if they live in infidel-ruled lands but are allowed to freely practice their religion, but they reserve themselves the right to defensive jihad if they feel they’re being “attacked”. Their endgame is the same as sunnis and shias – that islam be made the law of the land all over the world with beheadings, stonings, chopping of limbs, etc. – they just go about it in a seemingly more peaceful manner.

        • Western Canadian says

          Sep 24, 2015 at 2:32 pm

          analiser, very few of us on this board are blind. We know more about the crime against humanity called islam (RTC), than they want us to know.

  2. l says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    As Spencer mentions in the last paragraph, Ahmadis are treated like shit in Pakistan and elsewhere,

    yet they choose to be the water-carriers for jihadists.

    Just click on Ahmadis under the Social network logos.

    So many articles on the persecution of Ahmadis.

    My pick is

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/pakistan-conference-calls-for-jihad-against-ahmadis-how-can-you-eat-your-meals-in-peace-while-there

  3. mortimer says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    Ahmadis usually begin every comment with the pretense that they represent mainstream Islam. Because the first thing Ahmadis commonly do is MISREPRESENT themselves, how can anyone trust the rest of their presentations?

    Unfortunately for the truth, most journalists have NO UNDERSTANDING OF ISLAM WHATSOEVER, so they fall for the Ahmadi pretense hook, line and sinker.

    Editors should find journalists who have done the reading of Islamic texts and understand the jihad doctrine.

  4. Wellington says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    Seems like Qasim Rashid, Ibrahim Hooper and many, many others are suffering from a bad case of Carsonophobia. Yes indeed, Carsonophobia is spreading quickly and creating a lot of hysteria.

    Carsonophobes are showing up everywhere and yet Dr. Ben Carson has not yet been responsible for even one act of terror. Not even one. Meanwhile, however, there have been almost 27,000 documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide just since 9/11 but to conclude Islam has had something to do with these attacks is widely portrayed as evidence of bigotry towards Islam, as evidence of, you guessed it, Islamophobia.

    Huh-uh. I detect disproportionality here. Heaps of it. Hypocrisy too. Lots of it.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 1:59 pm

      Thank you for nudging my ancient noggin to mention a superb website which prominently features those nearly 27,000 documented terror attacks: www dot thereligtionofpeace dot com. It also has a daily news section for the latest episode of slaughter and subjugation, and abundant links to reality.

      Here are two “gentler” resources, for those of us who don’t want to raise the blood pressure of relatives and friends with an “In Your Ignorant Faces, Bozos!” full-bore wake up call:

      www dot inquiryintoislam dot com & www dot citizenwarrior dot com. Comprehensive, well worth you taking time to look at in advance — for specific suggestions directing that clueless bunch of potential future allies to.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 2:05 pm

        abundant links to reality

        A person has to want to link up to reality to… link up to reality. Fictive Reality will continue to rule the day until the masses click those (and other) links.

        And read with an open mind.

      • Wellington says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 5:11 pm

        Thanks for those last two links, jihad3tracker. I have many times recommended thereligionpeace website, principally, though certainly not solely, because it chronicles every last damn Islamic barbarity day by day, week by week, month by month, year by year the whole way back to 9/11.

        When I have shown friends, relatives and acquaintances this categorization they are invariably astonished. Before I have shown anyone this I always ask a person to take a guess as to how many documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide have occurred just since 9/11, Without exception no one I’ve asked this had a realization that it has been so many. When I was at a dinner party back in July and posed this query to the hostess, she replied with a guess of hundreds of such attacks. When I told her it was over 26,000 she was absolutely floored by what I had just conveyed to her. Her going to the website followed her astonishment.

        Yes indeed, the more one really knows about Islam, the more the likelihood vastly increases that disgust with this wretched excuse for a religion will set in. It’s setting in with more and more folks every year across the world and this number will only keep going up. It will never remain static and it most certainly won’t go down. Take good care, my fellow detester of man’s worst and most menacing religion of all time.

        • Roy C says

          Sep 24, 2015 at 6:45 pm

          Spot on Wellington – What really alarms me about this latest Islam dust-up in the media is what I’m seeing on the only major media outlet worth watching, Fox news. Every prime time host including Bill O’Reilly and Megyn Kelly are backing down when asked if they would vote for a Muslim. I don’t believe for a second that they would ever do that anymore than I believe Barak Hussein Obama is a Christian. If asked if they would vote for a socialist they wouldn’t hesitate to say no way so why do they so fear the PC thought police? Gentle Ben is slowing walking his statement back under enormous pressure. Political correction works and it is all pervasive now in the media as well as in politics.

  5. mortimer says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    Cultural Marxists wish to import Muslims to hoping they will destroy Western civilization and replace Europeans with malleable peoples from Third World dictatorships.

    Marxist journalists go along with the PC party line and defend their ‘noble savages’ from all criticisms of their misogynistic culture or their violent and intolerant jihad ideology.

    In Marxist theory, only the bourgeoisie may be criticized. That is the ‘critical theory’.

    • mahghan says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 7:04 am

      It’s always puzzling when people associate extreme liberal thought with Marxism. Marx spent his whole academic life in the British Museum writing his critiques of Capitalism and liberal Bourgeois thought. Marx thought of religion as the “opiate of the people” that led to human alienation and backwardness. In no way, would Marx have supported Islam and jihad. Leave all that to the dissolute and corrupt liberal bourgeoisie.

      Marx never wrote on homosexuality, abortion, same-sex marriage Muslim refugees, Islamic law and culture, and other topics very dear to the hearts of dissolute liberals.

  6. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:54 pm

    I must admit, having a presidential candidate bring up the truth of Islam is something I never expected. This is a dream, and a good one. A good dream that gets even better when first the news entertainers over to the Fox RINO channel start backstabbing, if tentatively, then CAIR launches a full scale whine, and now the mealy mouth double talking Ahmadi goes into full bullshit mode.

    Am I hallucinating, or are the Moslems… on the defensive?

  7. jayell says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    “Ahmadi Muslim leader (Qasim Rashid) claims Ben Carson’s words “intolerant and wrong”……”

    Now, of course, one must without doubt defer to Mr. Rashid’s unquestioned wisdom, honesty and intellectual integrity (as indeed I commented to my good lady wife just now before being distracted by a flock of pigs migrating south for the winter as they customarily do at this time in the skies above London).

    Seriously, Mr Spencer, why DO you waste your time and talents validating this drivel with one of your excellent reasoned and informed replies? This sort of thing just doesn’t properly penetrate the muslim ego or intelligence (sic), and if anything I should think it would just reinforce Rashid’s delusions of grandeur as it might appear to him that his words are actually worthy of serious consideration by a greater mind (assuming he is able to recognise a greater mind). I regret that, with my background in East-End-of-London culture, my response would just be a single word. I would not dare to print it here, but it rhymes with ‘banker’.

    • Robert Spencer says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 2:36 pm

      “Seriously, Mr Spencer, why DO you waste your time and talents validating this drivel with one of your excellent reasoned and informed replies?”

      Because it’s in the Daily Caller. People read it. They won’t know they’re being had. And to give intellectual ammunition to people who encounter the arguments Rashid makes here in their daily lives.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 5:19 pm

      Jayell wrote:

      Seriously, Mr Spencer, why DO you waste your time and talents validating this drivel with one of your excellent reasoned and informed replies? This sort of thing just doesn’t properly penetrate the muslim ego or intelligence (sic), and if anything I should think it would just reinforce Rashid’s delusions of grandeur…
      ……………………….

      Jayell, Robert Spencer is not responding here in the hopes of changing the mind of a cynical Taqiyya artist like Qasim Rashid–he is writing to *inform Infidels* of the danger of this whitewash.

      And I know you cite your no-nonsense take on things as an East Ender–unfortunately, the East End of London now is less likely to bring up the image of proud Cockneys than it is to bring up ranting Jihadists, since that historic part of the city has long since been overrun with ravening Mohammedans.

      We all have to wake up to this threat–but those like Qasim Rashid are trying to discredit anyone who sounds the alarm, and all too many Westerners, out of fear or “political correctness”, or both, are all too eager to listen.

      • jayell says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 7:06 am

        Yes, Gravenimage, I know why Mr. Spencer is taking the time to do all this and I am fully aware how inportant it is – for people like us who may not be so aware of what’s going on. What I am doing is lamenting the fact that this is necessary at all, and the fact that Mr. Spencer’s excellent efforts seem to be wasted on the prime perpetrators of all this deceitful nonsense – the likes of Qasim Rashid and (for example) that comedian (Sheik someone-or-the-other?) who featured in a TV interview with Mr Spencer originally posted (I believe) round about 2011 (had me in fits, and God knows how the lady presenter kept a straight face!). People such as ourselves would (hopefully) listen carefully to, consider and possibly learn from intelligent dialogue, but Mr. Spencer’s well-informed, reasoned and highly articulate arguments either seemed to flow off these ‘individiuals’ like water off some demented duck’s back or deflected by some pseudo-intellectual force-field of ideological bigotry. It seems that they just won’t (can’t?) LISTEN (or understand?), you just get a monologue from these people, and I for one am now finding it very, very irritating indeed. But Mr. Spencer should keep up his excellent work, including writing his excellent books (I’m just getting through his ‘Complete Infidel’s Guide to Isil’ – very interesting!). I couldn’t do it. I’d probably lose my rag within five minutes!

        (By the way, I’m only an ‘East Ender’ at two generation’s remove, but I still like the attitudes and I’m not all that far from the East End, so unfortunately I know what’s going on there. I’m also half-Yorkshire, so that’s TWO lots of ‘no nonsense’. You see where I’m coming from?)

  8. Dan says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 2:02 pm

    The more I hear of Dr. Carson…

    And the more I hear these kinds of comments about him…

    The more I wish I could sneak into some American, “i.d. not required to vote” state, to vote for him.

    About sixty ‘leven times.

    Problem is if I had those kinds of scruples, by which I mean those that enable you to justify sneaking into a foreign country to illegally vote cause you always have to clarify to the dumbocrat crowd, I’d probably be voting dumbocrat.

    Which sorta kinda of defeats my purpose.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 5:21 pm

      You can still spread the word, Dan. I do what I can regarding elections in Canada and Britain, though I am American.

      What country do you live in?

  9. Don Foss says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    He’s talking only to liberals and media, the only fools dumb enough to take him seriously.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 5:30 pm

      Don Foss wrote:

      He’s talking only to liberals and media, the only fools dumb enough to take him seriously.
      ……………………………

      If only, Don. Rashid has been a fairly frequent guest on FOX News, which is generally regarded as right-of-center:

      http://www.foxnews.com/archive/qasim-rashid/index.html

      Not only can we not afford to write off every liberal in the country–they make up a fairly large part of the population–but all too many conservatives are prone to swallow this whitewash of Islam, as well.

  10. Angemon says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    America’s founding fathers sought to escape religious persecution, not create a nation with more religious discrimination.

    I thought that the Puritans were the ones seeking to escape religious persecution abd the Founding Fathers rebelled against a tyrannical, unjust government?

    • Katowice says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 2:28 pm

      Founding fathers, Puritans, whatever. Dead white imperialists are dead white imperialists, why sweat the details? Just start feeling bad about existing already.

      Alternatively, those kind of factually correct statements are discriminatory against people who want to talk about politics without knowing anything about it or who don’t identify with reality. Check your basic history knowledge/fact-based privilege!

    • Michael Copeland says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 3:49 pm

      Haven’t you heard?
      They were the Pilgrim Mullahs.

  11. manuel paleologus says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    The more I hear daily about Islam and Muslims, the sicker I become.
    There is nothing else on the mass media than to talk about who is saying what in regard Islam or how many killings different Muslim faction did against Christians or other Muslims.
    We do not have any other subject to brush other then islam.

    I do not care what this Muslim guy is saying. Islam is a danger to any Western civilization. Since 622 AD Islam is trying to subdue the West. It seems that now this ‘hegira-hijrah” is working well since the great influx of Muslims is flooding Europe. And who is to be blame-Washington. Because this administration created the hell in the Middle East and no one else. Thank God Putin goes in to save the Christians because America’s administration has diminished the world leader of our nation. We have a zero administration which lost any credibility in the world.

  12. wildjew says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Qasim Rashid is one slick debater. Robert I hope you can post a tape of that interview with Hannity and Qasim this afternoon on this site. I would like to listen to that again. He denied Aisha was 6 when the prophet Muhammad married her and that she is 9 when the marriage was consummated. Is there any Islamic authority in the Middle East that can corroborate that?

    • RG says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 1:16 pm

      @wildjew. Ahemm! You posted ‘the prophet Muhammad married her’…. No offense, but we all know that you really meant to say, ‘the pedophile, muhammad, abducted her’, right??? I just get my feathers ruffled a bit whenever I hear the words, ‘the prophet, mohammed’, ’cause the scumbag was definitely not a prophet. I just hope in his interview with Q. Rashid, that Hannity didn’t fall into the same trap of using the words ‘the prophet mohammed’. My guess–he probably did just that!!! P.S. It’s my understanding that the islamic authoritative Hadiths (which detail mohammed’s life activities) are all that is needed to corroborate the rampant pedophilia of the muzzlum piece-a-shitt!!! It’s irrefutable and for the most part beatified in the eyes of most scumbags (oh, I mean muzzlumz)!!!

  13. Edward says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    This dufus says: “But with two strikes already against him, Dr. Carson struck out when he instead advocated against a Muslim becoming President because of their faith.”

    Dr. Carson never criticized the Muslim’s faith intrinsically……he inferred that Islam’s government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided would be considered a Theocracy. He envisions that governing by theocracy tenants are not compatible to our established US Constitutional Laws of plus 236 years or so.

    Reference: http://video.foxnews.com/v/4500207939001/carson-stands-by-belief-that-a-muslim-shouldnt-be-president/?intcmp=hpvid1#sp=show-clips 8:19 min. video

    Checkout the video’s run time @ 1:58 min to hear his point of interest!

  14. Karen says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    So Franklin said he’d “…rather see the opinions of Confucius or Mohammed inculcated upon our youth than see them grow up wholly devoid of a system of religious principles.”

    Is that what Rashid considers to be a resounding endorsement? to me it sounds a bit like saying, ok, I lost a leg but at least I’m not dead.

  15. Edward says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 1:13 am

    Qasim Rashid’s writings can be considered a bunch of gobbledegook. Looking at him one sees the allusion of a turkey, “always gobbledy gobbling and strutting with ludicrous pomposity.

    BTW, the word gibberish is the synonym for gobbledegook. Interestingly utilizing gibberish acts can be used as an exercise in education. Another usage of gibberish is during meditation rites, which has been derived from an old Sufi practice.

    Gibberish talk has been used for many centuries as a sloppy jargon intended to confuse. Causing to think unclearly and as a form of contempt or more probably a mixture of both. A system that can’t or won’t communicate is not a safe basis for a democracy it has been said. Perhaps the convoluted psyche of Middle Easterners deviant evolution seems to be the results of such cultural practices!

    • Edward says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 1:38 am

      Definition of gobbledegook: language characterized by circumlocution and jargon, usually hard to understand

      circumlocution: a roundabout or indirect way of speaking; the use of more words than necessary to express an idea.

      Credit: dictionary.com

      • Lilithwept says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 7:31 pm

        Or in the words of Orwell in “1984” double plus ungood duck speak!
        I absolutely love the condensed language in 1984 and calling what muslims like Rashid say “duck speak” is dead right. Like a duck, quack quack quack quack just noise, meaningless noise.

  16. duh_swami says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 5:04 am

    I don’t trust anyone who believes Allah is God…
    Dr Carson has a history doing good things…What has Rashid ever done?

  17. Thomas F Mills says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 5:10 am

    Dr Carson and Donald Trump are 100% Correct. islam has no business in any way in Any Civilized Country. Their religious considerations should be immediately withdrawn as islam is in no way a religeon. It is straight evil murderous fashism and should never be tolerated in The U.S.A. And be destroyed at once.

  18. Charlie in NY says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 7:15 am

    The Constitutional arguments of religious tests and free exercise/no establishment of religion are red herrings. These provisions act as a limit on Congress, and through the incorporation principle, state power. Since no one is proposing any law to bar a Muslim from running for President (though a Constitutional amendment would in fact be necessary to add to the existing requirements of being native born and at least 35), the entire argument is irrelevant beyond being an obvious and desperate attempt to seize a moral high ground. There is nothing to limit an individual’s personal prejudice for his reason for voting for or against anyone in particular. Put differently, they claim Constitutional support, but their argument is really an implicit demand to apply anti-discrimination laws to the right to vote – now that’s fascism.

    • Lilithwept says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 7:35 pm

      I would support an amendment that says Islam is not a religion but a socio political system designed for dominating and taking over every country on earth,is treasonous, seditious and as such it is not under the protection of the Freedom of Religion amendment and is banned from the USA!!! As unlikely as it is THAT is my favorite day dream.

  19. Thinking From First Principles says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 11:16 am

    The constitution has an implicit assumption that church and state are separable. The constitution and amendments are structured on this basis, and the prohibition against any religious test naturally follows. Islam constitutes a unique challenge to the constitution since mosque and state are inseparable within Islam. Since Islam is inherently and inseparably political there is a unique confusion – any legitimate political test such as espoused by Dr. Carson and others is misinterpreted as a religious test. We need to be assertive in stating that “Islam is unique among religions as the only political religion, and the politics of Islam are totalitarian and supremacist first with respect to Muslims ruling over all non-Muslims, and then with respect to men ruling over all women.” Make the statement and don’t back down.

    • Western Canadian says

      Sep 25, 2015 at 2:30 pm

      “The constitution has an implicit assumption that church and state are separable”

      Your Constitution implies no such thing. You should know better. The references in the constitution to religion are to PROTECT

    • Western Canadian says

      Sep 25, 2015 at 2:32 pm

      “The constitution has an implicit assumption that church and state are separable”

      Your Constitution implies no such thing. You should know better. The references in the constitution to religion are to PROTECT churches from the state, to protect the state from a government enforced religion.

      Suggest you check out the statements made by various founding fathers about the need for a religious and moral people, to make a go of your constitution possible.

  20. Dennis says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    Having lived in India many years I have heard of Muslim attacks on Ahmadi folks. Can’t understand why this man argues in favor of the Muslims.

    • Lilithwept says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 7:39 pm

      It just proves that even with this supposedly “kinder and gentler” sect of Islam that all muslims are brainwashed by Islam. So Even gentled or dumbed down, Islam is still a violent,bloodthirsty cult bent on world domination! No form of Islam can be tolerated.

  21. Rodakowski says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    Wow! Did I ever learn something! I have never heard anything quite like the Jefferson quote regarding the divine directive of the Barbary pirates! Why is there no (scholarly or historical) analysis of Islamic issues? You really can’t refute history, no matter how much spin the media puts on things.

    Again, thanks for your clarity an insight Robert Spencer. Why do I enjoy Jihad Watch? I always have something to LEARN!

  22. RG says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    Ahmadis, Sunnis, Shias–same old freakin’ g-damned bullshitt! Total Paleolithic Neanderthals!!!!

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