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India Muslim leader threatens violence over government billboard misquoting Qur’an

Sep 9, 2015 1:35 pm By Robert Spencer

So the billboard is inaccurate. So are the Islamic Circle of North America’s billboards up all over the United States these days, claiming that Muhammad taught peace and tolerance. The sane response from Shabbir Alam would have been to ask that the billboards be taken down, and the record set straight. But to threaten violence? All too often that is the default reaction from Islamic supremacists.

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“Indian leader warns of unrest over Modi govt’s ‘Quran discourages eating beef’ claim,” AFP, September 9, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

A Muslim leader in India warned on Wednesday of communal unrest after a state government claimed the Holy Quran discourages eating beef, the latest contentious effort to protect cows in the Hindu-majority country.

The government of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s home state of Gujarat has erected billboards with an alleged Quranic verse saying eating beef causes disease, together with an Islamic symbol of a crescent moon and star.

Hardline Hindu groups have long pushed for a national ban on the slaughter of cows which they consider sacred.

But moves to protect cows have intensified since Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) came to power after general elections last May.

Several states have introduced a ban on slaughtering the animals and selling their flesh, a move that critics say discriminates against Muslims and other religious minorities who rely on the cheap meat for protein.

Shabbir Alam from the main mosque in Gujarat’s Ahmedabad city said the billboards were an insult to Islam because no such verse existed.

“Such hoardings can spark violence and disturb the peace between the two communities,” the mufti told AFP.

“Anything which is not from the Quran and publicised as part of the holy book is an insult to Islam. I strongly condemn this act of the Gujarat government.”…

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Filed Under: India, Islamic supremacism, Jihadist intimidation and thuggery Tagged With: Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), Shabbir Alam


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  1. Susan Bourgeois says

    Sep 9, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    Listen to the Ten Commandments and do not worship any idol or you will be punished by God. Only worship God. And feed the hungry!

    • lothos says

      Sep 9, 2015 at 11:27 pm

      …lets remind ourselves of the 10 commandments shall we…?

      1) You shall have no other gods before Me.
      2) You shall not make idols.
      3) You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
      4) Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
      5) Honor your father and your mother.
      6) You shall not murder.
      7) You shall not commit adultery.
      8) You shall not steal.
      9) You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
      10) You shall not covet.

      …so while some are admirable (6,8,9), some are stoopid (1,2,3,4), at least one is impossible (10) and the remainder are ‘ok’ (5,7)…so no, susan: i will not be following your ‘threat’ about being punished by an ‘all-loving’ god…just because islam is a major threat to the world (and humanity) right now does nothing to excuse christianity from its violent past…and the only reason why christianity STOPPED being violent was because we started to use ‘reason’ instead of ‘faith’…

      …but i do agree with you about helping others though…except if they want to kill me afterwards… :0P

      • ravee says

        Sep 10, 2015 at 8:24 am

        Most interesting to me is No 6………..cows too have life as all living being. Respect life, be a vegan. I have high regards of Jesus but never the SEX MANIAC, PEDOPHILE Muhammad.

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 9, 2015 at 11:44 pm

      I have no idea why Susan would post that on a topic about Muslim Hindu conflict and then lothos would jump in and falsely generalize Christianity as being only about the Ten Commandments.

      Unless they are a tag team in cahoots

      • lothos says

        Sep 10, 2015 at 12:42 am

        Jay Boo:
        nope…not a tag-team i’m afraid…i just get narky when i read ppl telling me that i should obey their ‘special rules’…

        …and admittedly, susan didnt say she was a christian, i simply assumed she was due to her ‘feed the poor’ statement which seemed more in line with christian doctrine than judaism…

        …btw, i don think i ‘generalised’ at all…i didnt state or imply anywhere that christianity was ‘only’ about the 10 commandments…

        …although here is some irony for you: my first name is christian… :0D

        …finally, i may have been a tad agressive with susan; i am currently involved at my workplace with a potential disciplinary issue because during some ‘down-time’, my supervisor asked me what i was doing…while i was drawing a pic of muhammad as darth vader…

        …my muslim supervisor wasnt impressed and said i shouldnt be doing that as it was offensive…i advised that he could be as offended as he wanted (as is his right), but that didnt mean he had the right to stop me from drawing what i wished…

        …after several minutes of ‘discussion’, he then said i shouldnt be doing it on work premises…to which i asked where in the staff policy/handbook did i say i wasnt allowed to draw legal images…it kinda went downhill from there… :0D

        …anyhoo…the upshot is that he has made a disciplinary issue out of the matter…and, in return, i have complained about his conduct which goes against company policy regarding bullying, discriminationa and conflict of interest…

        …so yes…i may be a bit sensitive at the moment… ;0)

        • Jay Boo says

          Sep 10, 2015 at 12:53 am

          I believe Susan was just trying to get off topic
          In fairness Susan was the one to mention the Ten Commandments
          peace

  2. Don Foss says

    Sep 9, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    The two sides can surely compromise. Muslims need their protein in a country wihere a majority of people consideri the cow sacred and are highly “offended” when cows are slaughtered for food? (You Muzzies know all about the horrors of being offended over something sacred, right?) So let the majority ban the beef and the minority get your protein from pork…all the pig you want.

    • Oliver says

      Sep 9, 2015 at 5:49 pm

      A better way ( which was WHAT THE BRITISH ATTEMPTED TO DO IN 1947-48)– TWO STATES- Pakistan for Muslims; India for Hindus and everyone else.

      Let ALL of the Muslims from India ( and the US) move to Pakistan. They can, there, eat all the beef that they want.

      (Hopefully, laced with poisons-_)

      • Don Foss says

        Sep 10, 2015 at 11:33 am

        Perfect. And put to a vote I am sure the nonMuslim Indians would get a 100% turnout for Yes.

      • IndianTiger says

        Sep 10, 2015 at 4:02 pm

        Perfect solution! I could not have put it better.

  3. Mirren10 says

    Sep 9, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    ”A Muslim leader in India warned on Wednesday of communal unrest after a state government claimed the Holy Quran discourages eating beef, the latest contentious effort to protect cows in the Hindu-majority country.”

    Only islam. Only mohammedans.

    What sane group of people, would, as Mr Spencer says, threaten **violence** over such a thing ?

    Let’s translate this into human intelligence speak.

    ”A Christian ( replace with any religion of your choice – except islam) leader in India (again, replace with any country of your choice, except a mohammedan one) warned of ‘communal unrest’ ( aka bloody violence) after a state government claimed the Holy Bible discourages eating beef, the latest contentious effort to protect cows in the Hindu majority country.”

    How utterly **insane** is this ?

    Any Christian, told that the government said the Bible discouraged eating beef, would simply shrug their shoulders, and carry on doing whatever they wanted to do. They *might* mildly point out there was no Biblical ukase against the eating of beef, but that is as far as it would go.

    But *insane* muslims, threaten *violence* over such nonsense. Is there really anything more we need to convince rational, normal, decent people, that islam is a ‘religion’ for the vicious, lunatic, supremacist psychopaths of this world ?

    Silly me. Of course, there are, and will be, *many* more examples of the vicious lunacy of these cretins. The problem is, they’re not content to cosset their own insanity, they want to force it onto the rest of decent humanity.

    And of course, the other problem is, that leftard morons will continue to enable this moronic and vicious nonsense, in the name of ‘multiculturism’.

  4. TheBuffster says

    Sep 9, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    ““Such hoardings can spark violence and disturb the peace between the two communities,” the mufti told AFP.”

    I don’t know whether Shabbir Alam said this in the spirit of threat or in the spirit of stating a fact about a good portion of his fellow Muslims. But it doesn’t matter too much. The fact is, misrepresenting the Koran is bound to be taken as an insult to Islam. Misrepresenting it in order to manipulate Muslims into not offending against an infidel religion – particularly a polytheistic religion – seems to me an unendurable insult from a Muslim context.

    How could the Gujarat government not know this? Are they trying to stir up strife? Do they think all Muslims are ignorant of what’s in the Koran and that none of the Muslim leaders would call them on such a blatant lie? It’s just incredibly stupid to try this tactic, unless violence is the desired end.

    On the issue of Muslims eating beef versus Hindus protecting cows – as long as the cows that the Muslims are eating don’t belong to Hindus, the Hindus should let the Muslims be on this… and let the Christians and Jews and atheists, etc., be as well. Just as non-Muslims should be free to eat pork and serve it in public places, so should Muslims be free to eat beef in their home country.

    This is the kind of mess you get when religious traditions become an interest of government, and you have two or more clashing religions, at least one of them quick-on-the-trigger. The quick-on-the-trigger people set the agenda, if there are enough of them. And once they’re a large enough presence in your country, you have to watch what you say and yield to them in any clash, unless you are ready for violence.

    A lesson that should be obvious to everyone by now, including the leaders of the Western world. But some people live in such thick bubbles, they can only get out of them when ugly reality smashes them with a nuclear bomb.

  5. kevin says

    Sep 9, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    Muslims are not supposed to eat pork or any other meat that is blessed to another god, if the hindus put up billboards to say that all indian cattle are blessed to one of their gods, then that meat product becomes unlawful to muslims,to eat
    quran 2:173 He hath forbidden you only carrion, and blood, and swineflesh, and that which hath been immolated to (the name of) any other than Allah

    • TheBuffster says

      Sep 9, 2015 at 11:52 pm

      Kevin, “immolated” doesn’t mean “blessed”. It means “sacrificed”. That’s exactly what Hindus do not want to do to cows.

  6. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Sep 9, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    What an uninformative report this is! Would a report like this get a passing grade in any course in Journalism 101? What Quran verse is allegedly being quoted on a billboard? The picture at the top of this Jihad Watch report shows a billboard, but it is unclear whether it is the same billboard that is referred to in the original report
    http://tribune.com.pk/story/953749/indian-muslim-leader-warns-of-unrest-over-cow-protection-push/ ,
    which shows a picture of cows, not of the billboard in question. It should be an easy matter for the reporter to verify whether the cited sura and aya says any such thing. Does this Muslim leader who warned of unrest have a name? How did he give his warning? In a radio interview? In a sermon? And what is this “Holy Quran” that the reporter refers to? Is it different from the plain-vanilla Quran that we all know and love? Does this reporter really think that there is an edition of the Quran that is holy?

  7. Angemon says

    Sep 9, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    Several states have introduced a ban on slaughtering the animals and selling their flesh, a move that critics say discriminates against Muslims and other religious minorities who rely on the cheap meat for protein.

    Practicing Hinduism (in India, of all places) is “islamophobic”, or “discriminatory” against muslims.

    If it were the other way around, if India were a muslim-majority country and Hindus wanted muslims to slaughter pigs for food and that muslims stop slaughtering cows for food, how do you think the muslims in charge would react?

  8. Hindu American says

    Sep 10, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    Lets also focus on what Shabbir Alam said, and I quote, “Anything which is not from the Quran and publicised as part of the holy book is an insult to Islam”. Therefore, “Anything which is from the Quran and publicized as part of the holy book is not, by extension, an insult to Islam.

    Very well, then perhaps the muslims should not object to direct quotes from the Quran that promote murder, rape, slaughter, polygamy, sharia law, dictatorship, ignorance, pedophilia, second/third class status to women and non-muslims, (the list goes on)…

    • Don Foss says

      Sep 10, 2015 at 2:48 pm

      Bingo!

    • mortimer says

      Sep 10, 2015 at 6:31 pm

      Agree: “perhaps the muslims should not object to direct quotes from the Quran that promote murder, rape, slaughter, polygamy, sharia law, dictatorship, ignorance, pedophilia, second/third class status to women and non-muslims”

      If you quote those verses, American Hindu, they will claim you are taking the verses OUT OF CONTEXT!

      • Don Foss says

        Sep 11, 2015 at 8:05 am

        But the Qur’an is the very word of Allah, all-knowing and without limits…except, apparently, he could not make himself clearly understood in his last message to all humanity.

  9. IndianTiger says

    Sep 10, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    The perpetually offended are at it again! Don’t issue such threats in Gujarat, which in 2002 gave a fitting reply to muslims when muslims torched a train coach full of Hindu pilgrims.

  10. patechinois says

    Sep 10, 2015 at 11:55 pm

    Muslims want a cheap protein? How about eggs? Or is an egg too symbolic of life for a death cult follower?

  11. Vijay says

    Sep 11, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    we made the muslims in india issue a fatwa on ISIS. That’s how scared they are

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