Amir Meshal “was already under scrutiny from federal authorities for possible activities helping to recruit young people for terror groups. He was banned from attending a local mosque in 2014, which said it ‘does not tolerate any advocacy or recruitment or extremism on its premises.’ He’s also been placed on a U.S. government ‘no-fly’ list.” And now he will be driving a school bus. What, oh what, could possibly go wrong?
An update on this story. “Man On ‘No-Fly’ List Granted School Bus Driver’s License,” by Pat Kessler, WCCO, September 14, 2015:
MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — The state Department of Public Safety has granted a school bus driver’s license to a Minnesota man who is on the Homeland Security “no-fly” list.
The department said it has no legal reason to deny a license to Amir Meshal, who already has a Minnesota commercial truck driver’s license.
But some lawmakers say the state law regulating school bus and commercial truck drivers should be changed.
The man, Amir Meshal, was already under scrutiny from federal authorities for possible activities helping to recruit young people for terror groups.
He was banned from attending a local mosque in 2014, which said it “does not tolerate any advocacy or recruitment or extremism on its premises.”
He’s also been placed on a U.S. government “no-fly” list.
Documents obtained from the Department of Homeland Security by WCCO-TV say Meshal “is an individual who represents a threat of engaging in or conducting a violent act of terrorism.”
But in Minnesota, Meshal obtained a commercial trucker’s license on August 3, and got a school bus driver’s license on September 9, after passing a background check.
“I do have some concerns,” State Representative Brian Johnson, (R) Cambridge, said.
Top lawmakers like Johnson — who serves as the chair of the Minnesota House Public Safety and Crime Prevention Policy Committee — say the state needs to take a closer look at how anyone on “no-fly” list can get a Minnesota license to drive a truck or a bus.
“Are they doing a proper background check?” Johnson said. “We have the safety of our children to think about. I am concerned that they granted him a commercial drivers license as well”
Meshal has never been charged with a crime, and he says he has never been told exactly why he’s on the no fly list.
The American Civil Liberties Union is suing the government, which it said extracted information from Meshal under torture.
“Like any other American, Mr. Meshal is entitled to obtain a license for a job so he can build a full and peaceful life for his family, including his 11-month-old baby,” said Hina Shamsi, Director of the National Security Project at the ACLU.
“He has never been charged with a crime and has sued the government to obtain a fair process to challenge his wrongful inclusion on the No Fly List. Any suggestion that Mr. Meshal’s license somehow presents a concern is meritless and unfair.”Meshal, who is an American citizen, was detained for more than four months in 2006 and interrogated over 30 times in three different countries by U.S. officials, according to the ACLU, after he traveled to Somalia to study Islam.
Under Minnesota law, the state cannot disqualify any applicant who passes a background check and does not have any disqualifying offenses….
In a written statement, the Minnesota Department of Public Safety said:
“The Department of Public Safety Driver and Vehicle Services Division (DPS-DVS) has a legal obligation to issue driver’s licenses to qualified applicants when all requirements in Minnesota law have been met.
“DPS-DVS does not have the authority to deny a license unless there is a specific reason to do so as outlined in the law.
“There’s nothing in state or federal law that would allow DPS-DVS to deny a license to an individual for being on a “no fly” list, or for other reasons mentioned in recent media stories. Denying a license for this reason would require a change in state or federal law.”…

Paleologos says
Why not?
They hand out driver’s licenses to illegal aliens like it’s candy.out here in California.
R/
Paleologos
somehistory says
All of the parents on the route he is given should take their kids to school…or take them out of school. and home school.
He should not be allowed to be in complete control of children and in a school bus where he has control of the bus.
This is beyond insane. If anything happens, there is a lawsuit waiting. And possibly dead children for whom money and apologies and even a term in prison won’t help.
Huck Folder says
@ somehistory:
“If anything happens, there is a lawsuit waiting.”
We wish. If that’s the law, passed by the appropriate body,
what can anyone do? Whom would you sue?
Can the licensing authorities get a signed ‘clearance’
from DHS or FBI that this person is a ‘safe’ driver?
I doubt it.
The only way would be if the no-fly or other criteria
would flag on that background check. But if that flag
were not specific, the ACLU would be all over it,
unless it was a white man.
somehistory says
Huck,
I was a school bus driver in Texas. The school district hired a few muslim men. One of them was a driver and one day, he became angry at a teen girl and although he didn’t really do her injury, and tried to justify his actions of pushing her, screaming at her, etc….he was fired and sued by her parents. The school district was also named in the suit.
Just because a person has a license to drive, doesn’t mean that the school district, or State, has to hire him. I went through a long interview before I was hired and had to have several character references. If he has to go through the same procedure, perhaps they will be able to eliminate his options for a school bus driving job.. If not, I still believe he and his bosses could be sued if he does something on the bus, with the bus, or to the kids that is not lawful to do.
gravenimage says
Thanks for sharing that story, somehistory–very disturbing. And this is in *Texas*, which is now often as “politically correct” when it comes to playing Muslim roulette as blue states like Minnesota.
Shane says
I can see the future headlines – “Jihadi bus driver drives bus over a cliff.” When will we learn that devout Muslims make bad citizens in Western countries? Stop all Muslim immigration into the USA, as every Muslim is a jihadist or a potential jihadist.
somehistory says
It’s like playing Old Maid with a regular deck, taking out one card at random which no one sees. No one playing the game knows which card in the deck is the Old Maid until the end when it stands alone.
No one knows ahead of time just which muslim…man or woman…or man in burka…will light a fuse, leave a loaded backpack, or drive into a crowd of people. They can’t know if this guy will plow a school bus full of children into oncoming traffic, off a cliff, or something else. He just might be the Old Maid card.
I would find out his assigned route and not allow my child to get on the bus if he ever drove the route where my child would be exposed to him. Thankfully for my family, this doesn’t directly affect. But it will affect other families.
gravenimage says
That’s exactly the kind of thing that worries me, Shane.
Frankie F. says
Since Mr. Meshal was never charged or convicted of a crime, he cannot be barred from obtaining a school bus or commercial truck license in any state, assuming all other requirements have been met. Unlike Islamic countries, American is a nation of laws which accords citizens equal protection under those laws. Unless and until the geniuses at DHS come up with a compelling case with real evidence showing Mr. Meshal’s terrorist affiliations and intentions, he should be free to drive the bus unmolested by the U.S. Government. People who don’t get this don’t understand the US constitution and how it differentiates us from religious tyrannies in the Middle east.
Incek Mahallesi says
“…said Hina Shamsi, Director of the National Security Project at the ACLU.”
__________________________________________________________
Fox, henhouse, blah, blah, blah.
Nothing to see here. Move along rubes. Go back to watching the Kardashian butts.
Oh, and…die Kuffar.
Jay Boo says
With all the filth of Muhammad it is no wonder Muslims feel a need to call us dirty Kuffar just to feel good about being dirty Muslims.
gravenimage says
Incek Mahallesi wrote:
“…said Hina Shamsi, Director of the National Security Project at the ACLU.”
__________________________________________________________
Fox, henhouse, blah, blah, blah…
………………………….
The ACLU doesn’t actually have any direct authority, Incek–but many clueless people do assume they are actual defenders of our freedoms, which is rarely the case. That the ACLU is so perverse as to put a Mohammedan in as head of their “National Security Project” shows just how far gone they are.
How Orwellian is this project? They say that “the ACLU’s National Security Project (NSP) advocates for national security policies that are consistent with the Constitution, the rule of law, and fundamental human rights”–which sounds great, but actually means that they oppose all efforts at protecting us from violent Jihad.
And Hina Shamsi is not the only high-ranking Muslim at this project–the director of the Center for Democracy is one Jameel Jaffer, who has been undermining defense against Jihad for years through “Lawfare”.
Hina Shamsi has been fighting “post-9/11 discrimination against racial and religious minorities”–what do you want to bet that the “religious minorities” in question are all Muslim?
Here’s Jameel Jaffer sneering at there being a threat of Jihad terrorism at all on his Twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/jameeljaffer/status/407528069688074240
Lots of nasty stuff at Hina Shamsi’s Twitter feed, as well:
https://twitter.com/hinashamsi
Rob says
..and probably ‘of course’
Milo says
Consider the words of Fr. Daniel Byantoro, a Muslim convert to Orthodox Christianity:
For thousands of years my country (Indonesia) was a Hindu Buddhist kingdom. The last Hindu king was kind enough to give a tax exempt property for the first Muslim missionary to live and to preach his religion. Slowly the followers of the new religion were growing, and after they became so strong the kingdom was attacked, those who refused to become Muslims had to flee for their life to the neighboring island of Bali or to a high mountain of Tengger, where they have been able to keep their religion until now. Slowly from the Hindu Buddhist Kingdom, Indonesia became the largest Islamic country in the world. If there is any lesson to be learnt by Americans at all, the history of my country is worth pondering upon. We are not hate mongering, bigoted people; rather, we are freedom loving, democracy loving and human loving people. We just don’t want this freedom and democracy to be taken away from us by our ignorance and misguided “political correctness”, and the pretension of tolerance. (Source: Facing Islam, endorsement section).
There is also a lesson to be learnt from the history of India. Ancient India was plundered pillaged and destroyed by the Arab Muslim Invaders. The job was made easy for them, the door left wide open as is being done now by Europe. Centuries of Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism had bred the fight out of Indians, the principles of these religions though noble and admirable could not stand up to the gut wrenching savagery and chilling cruelty of the Arab Muslim invaders who lived by the sword. While Hindu India was discussing theology, professing peace, reveling in the arts, creating Universities like Nalanda and seeking the spiritual, the Arab Muslim world was smelting itself in the fires of war, sublimating the softer instincts, toughening mind and body to accept and melt out mind numbing cruelty, separating the women and children from the men so they could not be corrupted by kindness or compassion in their quest to rule the world and to spread their faith by force.
When the invaders from the Arab world stormed into India the Indians were taken by horrified surprise. Their genteel breeding was no match for the savagery of the invaders. They were stunned into immobility by the scale of cruelty that the invading hoards were able to perpetuate. Their ineffective and sluggish response to the attacks, were the result of centuries of conditioning about benevolence, kindness, sympathy following the path of Dharma (Truth) Ahimsa (nonviolence) and renunciation.
When Mohammed Gazni and Mohammed Ghor were plundering the many temples including the Gold rich Somnath temple, when they were raping the young girls, when they were dragging away thousands of women and children to be used and sold as slaves in the Arab markets, the Indians had no fight in them to stand up to it. In fact they could not even understand that the human mind was capable of such exquisite savagery.
Years later even after being left battered and bruised, trounced and ruled over by Arabs and Persians, millions forcibly converted and the rest subjugated, the Hindu India could not break free of its nonviolent mold, could not rouse themselves for the ruthlessness of war. They continued to accept passively the various Mongol invasions, the Mughal rule and the British rule. Even when they did break free it was done by appealing to the British (who were certainly more civilized and could be negotiated with) by using nonviolent principles.
But by then the damage was done.
The Europeans now are in the position the Indians were in. They do not understand what they are getting into. Years of civilized living has made successive generations unable to grasp the savagery of the Arab Muslim world.
This time the invasion is relatively peaceful, Europe anyway having opened its doors willingly.
The regret will come too late, when hard won freedoms are slowly lost, when women gradually lose their rightful place in the scheme of things, when boys and young men are lost to the pleasures of savagery and when a civilization starts to decline is when the regret will come. It will be too late to turn back the clock.
It is time for the dark ages again. This time we cannot recover. A day may come when perhaps the Louvre will meet the same fate as the museums in Palmyra and the Bahamian Buddhas. The cancer has spread and infiltrated now.
The oil money is responsible for this destruction. The oil money in the hands of the Arab Muslims. It has been used to buy the media and mess with people’s head, to make them open doors, to accept inequality as normal, to instill a sense of shame and guilt to be used for leverage, to wave accusations of islamophobia and racism to halt debates or criticisms, to squash the voice of reason. The oil money has also been used to buy the various heads of state, to pass laws that will accept unreasonable demands and laws that will justify bigotry and curb freedoms, laws that will promote inequality and disparity.
The press being used to convince the people, hordes of single young men in the age group of 18 to 40 in designer jackets with iPhones are all starving ‘refugees’. Pictures of a little dead baby used gleefully and shamelessly to whip-up sentiments to bulldoze all obstacles. The press has informed people that they are closet fascists and xenophobes for objecting to these people trampling into their lives; they are told it’s ridiculous to be wary of these young men. Men who have so far lived in a society that has given them no more than a glimpse of a woman’s ankle and indoctrinated into believing that any women who shows more, is a loose woman who deserves to be taken advantage of.
The press has managed to draw an imaginary line between the so called refugees and the chaos they have created in their home counties. As if the chaos is not of their making. That these are people who believe in freedoms and democracy, running away from extremists persecuting them. Extremists who are not made from them but from some alien race, following a different religion and ideology from the so called refugees. The press has invested victimhood on the very people, whose beliefs lead to the intolerant society they are fleeing from, still carrying with them the same beliefs that will automatically destroy any place they flee to.
Europe has invited a savage cult into its midst for the sake of diversity. May be it is already too late.
Ernie says
Dear Milo , thank you very much for your truly excellent posting . It is a very clear warning for Western civilisation . If we want to survive we must toughen up our attitude and actions against islam without any delay . Have a nice day Milo !
Ringgo1 says
Very well put, Milo. Good job.
TheDane says
One is becoming sooo tired of seeing moslems and hearing about them! They are a big, red boil on the World’s butt! Send this critter back to Somalia where he belongs.
Roderick MacUalraig says
In case you haven’t heard of Jan Morgan:
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4484574835001/gun-range-owner-on-refugee-concerns/?intcmp=obnetwork&playlist_id=trending#sp=show-clips
Very impressive.
vickie says
Have you noticed – On this video and the news last night the few number of women crossing the border? There appeared to be a huge number, many, many men compared to just a few women. WHERE are the women? I also noticed the men were young!
Now if Muslims can have up to 4 wives and sex slaves, WHERE are the women crossing the border?
gravenimage says
This is one factor that proves this is a Hijira–a violent invasion–and not a “refugee crisis”. Refugees typically include large numbers of women, children, and old people–not here.
Angemon says
And the Obama administration won’t stand for it. Heck, they’re more likely to end “no-fly” lists than letting then be used to disqualify someone from anything.
Jay Boo says
The obvious question.
Why did he feel a need to go to Somalia to — “(study Islam)”?
Has Somalia invented a new and improved version?
He could have saved a plane fare.
Marty says
Parents should stand up and fight this now !! If you let anyone that wants to run right over you , run right over you they will , these people have more hate stored up inside than most they live , eat , dream and poop hate .
It is ridiculous to even think that something horribly bad is not going to happen , #WakeUpAmerica
BC says
Well because he got licence it does not mean he will get a job driving kids. Or does it? There are always some do gooders ready to give him a chance I suppose
Cartimandua says
Not driving my kids on his scoolbus, that’s for sure. Parents in that area had better check who is driving their kid’s bus. Every Day. Thanks to Milo for the history lesson.
gravenimage says
Minnesota Muslim suspected of jihad recruitment given school bus driver’s license
…………………….
Because balking at this would be “islamophobic”. Giving Amir Meshal a commercial trucker’s license is madness enough, considering how this could be abused by someone bent on aiding or waging violent Jihad–giving him unsupervised access to our children is even more insane.