Hijrah, or jihad by emigration, is, according to Islamic tradition, the migration or journey of Muhammad and his followers from Mecca to Yathrib, later renamed by him to Medina, in the year 622 CE. It was after the hijrah that Muhammad for the first time became not just a preacher of religious ideas, but a political and military leader. That was what occasioned his new “revelations” exhorting his followers to commit violence against unbelievers. Significantly, the Islamic calendar counts the hijrah, not Muhammad’s birth or the occasion of his first “revelation,” as the beginning of Islam, implying that Islam is not fully itself without a political and military component.
To emigrate in the cause of Allah – that is, to move to a new land in order to bring Islam there, is considered in Islam to be a highly meritorious act. “And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many locations and abundance,” says the Qur’an. “And whoever leaves his home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah. And Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful.” (4:100) The exalted status of such emigrants led a British jihad group that won notoriety (and a shutdown by the government) a few years ago for celebrating 9/11 to call itself Al-Muhajiroun: The Emigrants.
The Hungarian crack down followed the suspension of the Schengen free movement area by Germany and Austria this weekend. It became clear to German authorities that a significant number of the migrants they were processing were not in fact refugees from Syria. Germany’s local authorities have also complained that they were overwhelmed by the influx of people, and were not about to process or house them effectively.
Reuters reports that Serbia says it has been informed by Hungary that the Roszke-Horgos border crossing will be closed for the next 30 days, and that Hungarian humvees with mounted guns are moving towards the Serbia border.
There are reports that some migrants have managed to break through the border fence, and Hungarian police have begun to use the water cannon to deter the rioting migrants, dozens of whom are climbing onto local buildings, hurling rocks at the border police, while others find more ammunition and keep a constantly supply going. One Sky News correspondent reluctantly reported this afternoon that most of the migrants, “about 70 per cent” were men. “There are families too,” he hastily added.
The pro-migration charity Save The Children appeared to dispute the United Nations’ own statistics, claiming that most of those involved were not in fact men.
EXTRAORDINARY: “I would not say its mostly men” says @uenumafi of @SavetheChildren. HELLO!? Time to boycott STC. pic.twitter.com/arkxDZ0wgI
— Raheem Kassam (@RaheemKassam) September 16, 2015
In the past few days Hungary has begun construction on another border fence, this time on its Romanian border, and has positioned military vehicles along its border to scare off migrants.
According to the Hungarian press, migrants have been chanting, “Open! Open!” as well as “Allah Hu Akbar” as helicopters circle overhead. According to Sky News, the migrants had a “ringleader” with them with a megaphone who was egging the migrants on, shouting demands at the Hungarian police.
The Associated Press reports: “Hungarian police have used tear gas after hundreds of migrants broke through a razor wire fence on the border with Serbia.
“The police stopped the crowd, who threw plastic water bottles at them. There were no reports of injuries. Several people were seen with tears in their eyes from the gas.
“The crowd coming in from the Serbian border town of Horgos remained in front of the gate facing the police cordon. A Hungarian water cannon was parked facing them.”
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has made it clear that he doesn’t intend for his country to be used by the migrants to cross further into Europe. He has previously commented upon the threat the migrants pose to Western civilisation.
Lasslax says
“There were no reports of injuries.”
Actually there were. About 20 policeman injured of the stones and conrete thrown on them. They are under treatment in hospital.
But even worse: the “refugees” throw (!) 2 children over the fence, they landed on the concrete with injuries. They are hospitalized in Hungary for their wounds.
Peggy says
Muslims have always used women and childeren to hide behind and gain sympathy.
kay says
“Muslims have always used women and childeren to hide behind and gain sympathy.”
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It’s true, there are Muslim fanatics who do that, and much worse than that.
In Nigeria the Boko Haram Islamofascists use women and children to carry exploding vests to blow up village markets.
These Islamists ARE Nazis. Only they are worse than Nazis.
Even major bad guys like the classical Nazis and the Communists would find this pretty repulsive. But the Iranian Shia mullahs sent many young kids to war against Iraq.
There is nothing worse, nothing lower, nothing more hateful, nothing more dangerous than Islam. Islam is the ultimate child abuse.
The Islamists are criminally insane. They must be identified, isolated, and crushed. With as little collateral damage as possible.
You don’t even have to care about western civilization ( as I do ) to support this necessary fight against Islamofascism: Islam is the greatest enemy of women, children, and all other human beings.
And they don’t quit, do they? So basically, we have a fight to the death. I find that very straightforward in principle.
The problem is that there are a lot of Islamofascist snakes in a lot of Muslim grass all over everywhere.
There is only one way to save the children. It is to destroy Political Islam. And that is a most noble and necessary cause. We owe it to the kids. Therefore social media counter-jihad is Most Necessary. Clear?
Peggy says
I agree but how?
They are fully aware of what thier religion stands for and they still follow it without question.
Killing adults and sparing kids is only going to result in those kids kills us when they grow up. They are not going to say that it was necessary.
We will never be able to get rid of them of Islam but we can control them if we have the stomach. That means we have to become dictators to them and put dictators in their government. We made a huge mistake getting rid of Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and the Egyptian government (prior to Morsi). They were the dictators that region needs.
kay says
Re Peggy ( following ) : “Killing adults and sparing kids is only going to result in those kids kill[ing] us when they grow up…”
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No Peggy. We have to teach nonviolence. And scalable response.
First, it is an important distinction: all murder is killing, but not all killing is murder. So, thank you for that. Murder is a transgression, and basically all jihad is murder, so we say we are against murder in general and jihad in particular. We are better and more reasonable because we reject murder. We have ethical superiority.
Second, we individually and collectively oppose ( murderous ) jihad and kill ( or otherwise neutralize ) jihadis as necessary and appropriate to protect ( ourselves and ) society. This argument scales well and is totally straightforward. It does include the principle of “mutual assured destruction”.
Should the Pakistani regime launch a first strike against India, or Iran launch against Israel, then the folks on the receiving end have to destroy the bad guys right back.
This means that various groups and even whole nations and whole peoples have a vested interest in peace, and preventing the failure path that leads to mutual destruction. If I were a Pakistani or Iranian, I would want peace, and not a government that threatens war and the destruction of its own people.
Islamists must always seek war and destruction, so we have to make clear that will only hurt them. Of course, kamikaze-style murder/ suicide is culturally respectable and even sacred to Islamists. It’s a hard problem. I favor a two for one punishment ratio.
Ultimately our only hope is education, free speech, free thought, free assembly, and laicite’ ( rejection of theocracy ). And the defense of free and egalitarian societies.
This means mandatory public schooling where we teach civics and stuff like (a) the Silver Rule ( Do Not Engage Others Except As You Would Be Engaged ) and (b) that religion is a private sphere activity and NOT something to be pushed on others.
In general I favor a big push for teaching basic stuff in History ( bloody Islamic history ), Ethics, Philosophy, critical thinking, and negotiation.
My hope is that women everywhere will choose peace and freedom and social responsibility, and emphasize those to and for their own children.
Otherwise millions will be killed and/or forced to flee, and societies will be broken. Like in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen. I think peace is the better option, and that bloodthirsty Political Islam must be destroyed. Peace is only possible with the Silver Rule.
Peggy says
kay says
September 17, 2015 at 2:07 am
Re Peggy ( following ) : “Killing adults and sparing kids is only going to result in those kids kill[ing] us when they grow up…”
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No Peggy. We have to teach nonviolence. And scalable response
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If only that were possible.
It’s the generations after, born in the west who are most radical.
It’s part of their DNA and we can’t change that. I for one wouldn’t want t take a chance on a child whose family we killed not to want to kill me when he/she grows up.
They hate us now, imagine then.
talkingcloudorg says
#Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban for European President. One of the few EU politicians with any brains. Salute the electable Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban
nicu says
So true ! though they don’t care about them at all .
most ” refugees ” are men ! Fighters !
I wish all would all like Hungary does !
Canuck says
Hijra or Hijrah is the Islamic doctrine of migration, which is nothing more than a form of stealth jihad.
To emigrate in the cause of Allah – that is, to move to a new land in order to bring Islam there – is considered in Islam to be a highly meritorious act.
The Qur’an 4:100 states: “And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many locations and abundance. And whoever leaves his home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah. And Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful.”
Angemon says
Historically, when foreign men shouting “allahu akbar” tried to force their way into a country, they’d be met by local men who would drive them back or die trying.
I understand that the Hungarian police can’t do a thing because they’re still on the other side of the border, but that begs the question: what are the Serbians doing?
Peggy says
What are the Serbs supposed to do?
They are coming from Greece then on to Macedonia and then Serbia. Serbia is a third country for these people.
Seeing how Serbia isn’t a member of EU but Greece (port of origin) is and so is Hungary, they or the EU has to sort the mess out. Serbia is just caught in the middle of it all.
Angemon says
They’re misbehaving in Serbian soil – literally breaking, although not entering. “Refugees” or not, if they break the law (and I guess those gates are property of the Serbian government) they can be arrested and kicked out of the country.
Peggy says
I get that but don’t forget what happened to Serbia the last time they tried to defend themselves and their territory against Muslims.
NATO kept dropping bombs for 78 dyas and nights until they surrendered.
I think they don’t want a repeat of that so they don’t react.
Damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
Ernie says
Agreed Angemon . Your solution is based on COMMON SENSE . The already in place laws must be implemented .
Ernie says
Since these migrating people came from (relatively) save Turkey , they must be returned to Turkey as being UNDESIRED CITIZENS , who have broken the law by illegally having entered the European Union ( Greece ) . Serbia must close it’s borders and send all these illegals in Serbia back to Greece . Greece must return them to Turkey . Have a nice day Peggy !
Peggy says
I am not arguing against that at all. I wish that was a real possibility but don’t forget what NATO did to Serbia when they had a spat with Muslims before.
I really don’t think that Serbia can afford to force any Muslim into anything. So when they resist what do you think Serbia should do? Use force? Look how well it turned out for them the last time they did that.
Lasslax says
Angemon, correct again.
Thanks!
somehistory says
Well, this is what we here were all expecting. Hungary is now between muslims throwing rocks and hard decisions about what they can legally and reasonably do about it. Destroying property, demanding to be admitted, …and the covered faces just like they cover them when throwing rocks and other weapons at the Israelis. When looking at the video, it is impossible to see any women and small children like the media keep showing in order to cause people to feel sympathy.
How widespread will this video be seen? Probably not as much as the little boy dead on the beach. But this is the beast of islam, child of satan, in action. And it is all about islam…shouting ala schmalla akkingbar…wearing the dish towels across the face and after hitting the gate, running for cover.
The world will soon be on fire and islam is making its play for supremacy before it is destroyed.
More Ham Ed says
“Flooding with muslims, tell me where they’ve integrated well, tell me why muslim nations won’t take the syrian refugees, if they’re all such stering characters, why is saudi arabia refusing to take them in, why have they put military equipment on the border…”
Myxlplik says
Serbs are probably afraid if someone sprays a Muslim with water on their territory the UN will come in and just finish the rest of the Serbs off this time.
Don’t blame them.
Peggy says
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying but it seems to fall on deaf ears. How come nobody is angry at Greece or Macedonia who are allowing them passage to Serbia?
The area they are getting through to Serbia is populated by Muslims mainly so imagine the chaos if Serbia was to send their soldiers to that border. They would not only have the migrants to deal with but the local population as we who are Albanian and Muslim.
The last time Serbia sent army to Albanian populated areas resulted in merciless bombing and taking away 15% of it’s territory. Albanians are itching for something to start down there so that they can take more territory and join it with Kosovo who they are joining with Albania, even if unoficially.
Serbia is forced to take the abuse now.
I cannot see how some people are dismissing this asnot a real problem for Serbia.
Roxane says
There are some things the foreign media is reporting that are being left out by the corrupt MSM in the US. Along with attacking the police the migrants also tossed two children over the razor wire at the police. The children were being treated for injury by Hungary. Canadian media also reported that there appeared to men in t-shirts organizing the migrants. Directing women and children to the front for photos like the one with an article in the NYT. To make it appears the migrants are mostly families when they are overwhelming young males.
In the comment section of the NYT there is a German reporting some disturbing information about the migrants. He said a group of migrants went into a grocery store and bagged up what they wanted and then left without paying. He said the store was closed while authorities try to determine what to do. Rather then just arrest the migrants for theft. He is in Dresdan and reports that a building that housed 350 migrants by morning 300 had disappeared before they could be registered. So there are 300 unregistered migrants wandering around Germany. He also said in another incident migrants pulled the emergency brake on a train on three occasions and the migrants jumped from windows rather then be registered. Since registration is needed in order to obtain benefits in Germany this German asked why would the migrants not want to be registered unless they are not who they say they are. Given the violent behavior at the Hungarian border I think the security services know more then what they are telling the public about these migrants thus the reason Germany and Austria shut down their borders.
Cartimandua says
Hungarians are right. Anyone yelling Allah Akbar should be pepper sprayed and kept out. This may seem a minor point, These well fed, well dressed, always men. but they do keep a few women and children so that we wouldn’t dare pepper spry them. THESE ENEMIES, mostly raised among us are the ones that we should see as our enemies, yes we should. Modern people should see these invaders as such. Anyone who does not believes in cultural suicide….or genocide of the people that MIGHT hand over our countries and culture to these invaders. I will never submit.
Ernie says
Dear Cartimandua , how right you are ! The Christian East European populations KNOW this enemy . They have not forgotten ! Hence the fence at the Hungarian border . Mr. Orban , THANK YOU !!!
Lasslax says
+1
Peggy says
Lasslax says
September 17, 2015 at 12:39 pm
“No Eastern European country has more Muslims than Serbia. ”
As far as I know there are 2 East-Europian countries with more muslims, Albania and Bosnia-Herzegovina.
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I was talking about a country which is mainly populated by Christians and Muslims as a minority.
Bosnia was a creation of Bill Clinton. That was not a country but a republic within a country.
Albania was always a Muslim country with Christians as a minority.
So you want Serbia to stick her neck out again and send soldier down to the border which is heavilly populated by Muslims, especially Albanian Muslims. Do you remember the last time that happened? How did it end for Serbia?
Now you talk about north of Serbia which has a significant Hungarian population. Do you think that Serbia should lose that territory too because of it? I can’t understand your meaning about that.
As you can see, Serbia is the most diverse European country. Croatia is almost ethnically pure, as is Slovenia and Hungary isn’t nearly as diverse as Serbia. What does that tell us? It tells me that Serbia needs to tread very carefully because of it. It’s easy to sit back and say how Serbia should do the same as Hunary.
Who is going to start trouble in Hungary because of it? Nobody.
Serbia has to really worry about that.
Peggy says
No Eastern European country has more Muslims than Serbia. Southern Serbia is heavily populated with Muslims and that’s where the migrants are entering from. Kosovo was heavily populated by Muslim Albanians and when Serbia sent soldiers to stop the madness and stop Muslims from persecuting Christian Serbs NATO declared war on Serbia and now Kosovo has been taken away.
Do you think that Serbia can afford another problem in the south where there is a majority of Muslims by sending soldiers again to that area?
It’s easy to say they should just do it but the last time they just did it, it cost them 15% of their territory. It’s not that simple for Serbia.
Lasslax says
“No Eastern European country has more Muslims than Serbia. ”
As far as I know there are 2 East-Europian countries with more muslims, Albania and Bosnia-Herzegovina.
As Serbia populated the mainly Hungarian Vajdasag/Vojvodina with serbs, så did the Albans with Kosovo. You have nothing to complain about that. Serbia was just gaping too big, instead of accepting the reality, Serbia wanted too much territories there other etnicities were living. This has been foreseen by even the US president in 1921 in Trianon (W. Wilson). He even WARNED the newly created Yougoslavia for that.
Nevertheless, it is very understandable that the Serbs don´t want these muslim migrants. Then Serbia should stop them on its border instead of transiting them over to Croatia and Hungary, and definitly NOT pointing on Hungary and criticizing Hungary for defending the EU, its territory and its people.
Mind you, my ancestors were serbs, croats, hungarians, and germans and God only knows what more. So I have no special preferences.
gravenimage says
Yes–I noticed how well fed these “refugees” are, as well.
Joseph says
The few women and children that are there are for human shields and photo opportunities, nothing more nothing less.
Funny thing is that the men treat the women like garbage and slaves and yet they hide behind their skirts for protection. I hope that they are real proud of themselves.
Dave J says
It looks like a zombie invasion because that is what it is. The militants with their dead zombie eyes, their thirst for violence and blood. The women and children thrust forward as cannon fodder, with more zombie dedication. The presumptive attitude of superiority, tho it is only in callousness and cruelty, nothing noble. The often stated intent to take over the West and kill all of us “unbelievers”.
I hate Islam. I hate Allah and the whole mind rotting death cult established in his name.
The real name being Satan.
Cartimandua says
Canadians are lucky in our upcoming elections. We can vote for Steven Harper who has taken us through the bad times since 2008 that left most of the world in shatters and now Canada is very well indeed. Or we could have the son of a prime minister, very rich, charging charities thousand of dollars to put in his OWN bank account, nothing in his own resume but a great speech y his fathers coffin. Or Canada could choose mulcair, a FRENCH from France citizen. NDP. They have ruined everything they have ever touched. Socialists. Commies.NDP under Bob Rae ruined Ontario in the 90s, Alberta is now ruined in 6 months of NDP. shouldn’t Canadians be so stupid to vote in Trudeau or FRENCH Mulcair, Canada can look forward to. Quebec, Quebec
Quebec all the time again. I thought Canada got rid of Quebec all the time. I do not look forward to the Quebec seperatism problem again.. Which these two Mulcair, a French citizen and Trudeau want. Canada does not want this french separtism shit again. Canada wants good quiet government, keep it rolling, Elect either of these two and yo will get Quebec separ#tion all the time. Is this what Canadians want? I am so happy to be just a Canadian. I don’t think Canadians like me EVER want to be embroiled in it’s all about Quebec again. But if you vote for either of these two, damnation, it will be all Quebec all the time. They forget Canada is a very large country and Quebec is the past. The Rest of Canada is Canada’s future.
Newfie Templar says
And not a Moderate Migrant Muslim among the lot of them. It may be too late for Europe but North Americans have to learn exactly what Islam is all about before our culture is thrown back to the 7th century by this backward ass, hate-filled ideology. Political Correctness + Multiculturalism=Death of Western Society. Get vocal. Talk to your elected representatives and tell them that you do not want these barbarians at the gate transplanted into our society. These animals should be beating down the doors of an Islamic country where they all dress alike and speak the same language and worship the same nonsense.
Lasslax says
Yes please GET VOCAL!
The PC media demonizes everyone against this Jihad, as they demonize Israel, now Hungary, tomorrow…the next. Who is next?
Yes please protest against your newspapers and TV stations pumping you full with this demand of submission in the name of humanity. Don´t let dismantle REAL humanity by this hordes.
kay says
Re Newfie: “tell them that you do not want these barbarians at the gate transplanted into our society..”
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Basically you are completely right. Social media work is not enough.
We have to insist to elected representatives that society must be kept free:
1) Uphold freedom of speech and separation of church/ mosque and state or be voted out.
2) Reject unsafe/ undocumented refugees ( all refugees ) or be voted out.
Also, I see that Islamic State fascists use Kalashnikov machine guns inside the United States to try and kill people, e.g. at the Draw Muhammad contest in Garland Texas a few months back.
Looks like regular Americans need machine guns too. Not my first choice, but the old saying is true: never bring a knife to a gunfight.
Maybe we need to kinda all go Israeli style and take turns carrying machine guns.
This is something the Muslims really understand.
Machine guns are very dangerous and I don’t like them. But not having a machine gun and facing an armed bloodthirsty Islamist is more dangerous.
kay says
Looks like the US is in real trouble.
The Troubling Math of Muslim Migration
excerpt (c) by Ian Tuttle January 13, 2015 4:00 AM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/396262/troubling-math-muslim-migration-ian-tuttle
“In 1992, 41 percent of new permanent residents in the United States — green-card holders — hailed from the Asia-Pacific region, the Middle East and North Africa, or sub-Saharan Africa, according to the Pew Research Center. A decade later, the percentage was 53 percent. Over that same period, predictably, the number of Muslim immigrants coming to the United States annually has doubled, from 50,000 to approximately 100,000 each year. In 1992, only 5 percent of Muslim immigrants came from sub-Saharan Africa; 20 years later, it was 16 percent. Of the 2.75 million Muslims in the United States in 2011, 1.7 million were legal permanent residents.
“There is no official estimate of Muslims in the U.S.; religious affiliation is not tracked by the Census Bureau. However, Pew’s estimate of 2.75 million seems to be on the lower end. The Council on American-Islamic Relations says there are approximately 7 million Muslims in the country.
“Whatever the exact level, it can hardly be considered surprising that as the Muslim population in the country has expanded, so has the incidence of radicalism.”
PRCS says
“The Council on American-Islamic Relations says there are approximately 7 million Muslims in the country.”
I believe the Pew studies are accurate; citing 2.35 million in 2007.
CAIR uses that phony number to falsely puff up their political credibility.
David says
Worldcitizenship cannot be stopped. This is a sign of the times we live in.
Baha’u’llah has decreed:
“The world is but one country and mankind its citizens”
His Words are the Word of God for this age. His Son Abdul-Baha further explains how nationality will be a thing of the past to be replaced by loyalty to humanity as it should be. We all belong to the same human race and to say otherwise is racist.
The oneness of the kingdom of humanity will supplant the banner of conquest, and all communities of the earth will gather under its protection. No nation with separate and restricted boundaries — such as Persia, for instance — will exist. The United States of America will be known only as a name. Germany, France, England, Turkey, Arabia — all these various nations will be welded together in unity. When the people of the future are asked, “To which nationality do you belong?” the answer will be, “To the nationality of humanity…” The people of the future will not say, “I belong to the nation of England, France or Persia”; for all of them will be citizens of a universal nationality — the one family, the one country, the one world of humanity — and then these wars, hatreds and strifes will pass away. – Abdu’l-Baha, The Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 18.
Baucent says
I’m afraid your Baha’u’llah would get his head ripped off with a rusty knife if the brothers of the Islamic State got their hands on him and the oneness of the kingdom of humanity would be trampled into the dust. San Francisco might be his best bet.
gravenimage says
More sickening apologia from David:
Worldcitizenship cannot be stopped. This is a sign of the times we live in.
Baha’u’llah has decreed:
“The world is but one country and mankind its citizens”
His Words are the Word of God for this age. His Son Abdul-Baha further explains how nationality will be a thing of the past to be replaced by loyalty to humanity as it should be. We all belong to the same human race and to say otherwise is racist.
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Is it “racist” to want to keep these Allahu-Akbarring thugs out of our civilized societies? This apologist for Muslim savagery would have us think so.
More:
The oneness of the kingdom of humanity will supplant the banner of conquest…
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Really? Perhaps you should tell these invading Mohammedan hordes that.
More:
…and all communities of the earth will gather under its protection. No nation with separate and restricted boundaries — such as Persia, for instance — will exist. The United States of America will be known only as a name…
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Note that David considers the civilized United States to be no better than the Islamic hell hole of Iran–and if pious Muslims have their way, of course, it *won’t be*.
What David won’t tell you is that his fellow Baha’i suffer under Muslim oppression and violence in their native Iran–so much so, that Baha’i is actually headquartered in…Israel.
But this doesn’t stop many Baha’i like David from carrying water for the foul creed of Islam, which they assure us is actually a “religion of peace”.
Here’s how Baha’i view Islam:
“The mission of the American Bahá’ís is, no doubt to eventually establish the truth of Islam in the West.”
– Shoghi Effendi, Lights of Guidance, #1665
http://www.bci.org/islam-bahai/BahaisIslam.htm
Here’s how they fawn over the vicious “Prophet”:
“Blessing and peace be upon Him [Muhammad] through Whose advent Bathá [Mecca] is wreathed in smiles, and the sweet savours of Whose raiment have shed fragrance upon all mankind– He Who came to protect men from that which would harm them in the world below. Exalted, immensely exalted is His station above the glorification of all beings and sanctified from the praise of the entire creation…”
It goes on in this vein.
The truth is that Baha’i venerates Islam:
“As to Muhammad, the Apostle of God, let none among His followers who read these pages, think for a moment that either Islám, or its Prophet, or His Book, or His appointed Successors, or any of His authentic teachings, have been, or are to be in any way, or to however slight a degree, disparaged…”
The purpose of David here is to whitewash Islam, and to deny that this Muslim invasion represents a threat.
sinantara says
si vis pacem para bellum
kay says
Re: Baha’u’llah has decreed: “The world is but one country and mankind its citizens” His Words are the Word of God for this age.
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RUBBISH. I know about the Bahai faith. They are renegade Shia Muslims and they got mostly eradicated.
Baha’u’llah decreed NOTHING. Nobody cares what Baha’u’llah said or thought. The Muslims all reject Baha’u’llah. For obvious reasons.
The Bahai are ridiculous New Age type monotheists. They foolishly think they can claim a revelation for and representation of Mahayana Buddhism.
But ALL Buddhists wholly reject ALL of monotheism.
All Buddhists reject ( or more exactly ignore ) Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, not to mention Joseph Smith. Buddhists do not derive their teaching from any of the laws and the prophets, and no one can graft that type of religion onto Buddhadharma.
Listen Simple Jack. The Bahai do NOT have ANY of the teachings of Buddha Maitreya. The Buddhists do have big books of teaching on Buddha Maitreya and you can get high quality translations and commentaries from Amazon.
The Bahai claim to Buddha Maitreya is as ridiculous as the same claim made by L. Ron Hubbard. He didn’t know what he was doing either. The Bahai and the Scientologists have no connection whatsoever to any of the Buddhist teaching. And nobody cares about either the Bahai or Scientology any more.
If you claim the Islamic law ( sharia ) and prophet Shia style, then you reject Judaism and Christianity as Islam distorts and condemns these. Further, you embrace the Islamic system which murdered up to ten million Buddhists in South Asia, along with seventy million Hindus. The long Islamic war against South Asia was the bloodiest in world history. In other words, your theology is just stupid nonsense, even more ridiculous than the western Sufis. So give it up.
You have zero understanding of the Buddhist teaching nor do you understand how the “Abrahamic Tradition” is fundamentally broken in a couple ways. As well as being completely irrelevant to the Asian Dharma traditions.
In 1972 the Dalai Lama visited the Vatican and talked to the bishops there. They kept asking him, “But what about God? What about God?”
The Dalai Lama answered for all Buddhist teachers when he said
“God is YOUR business. Karma is MY business.”
The book you ( and many others ) need to read is “God Is Not One.” This is an independently written book. This is one of the only people who actually gets theology in the broader sense. As I recall the author may not even bother to discuss Bahai “faith”. Which faith doesn’t make much sense anyway. Bahai faith is gibberish.
Don’t go full retard. You’ll just go home empty handed, Simple Jack.
Tropic Thunder (2008) “You never go full Retard!”
Charli Main says
Ban Ki Moon is ranting on about the inhumanity of Hungary and the UNHCR about the dark side of European nature.
OK, Mr Ban Ki Moon why don´t you arrange to resettle 2 million of these poor Muslim refugees in South Korea.???
and exactly what is the UNHCR doing about resettling refugees apart from demanding that Europe take them in???
Lasslax says
Let me give you completelt different approach. And PEASE do not misunderstand it! PLEASE!
A jewish friend of mine says like this:
Hungary has since a 100 years back a very bad country for jews, antisemitism before and under WW2 is well known. After the fall of the communism, these straems are back quite a bit. Untill recently, some idiot nazis were loving the “palestinians” and the arabs for trying to destroy Israel. Now they shit their pants when those “heroes” are at the gates of Hungary.
Also the official Hungary and the press willingly joined in the choir of western medias of hating Israel.
Now Hungary just gets the same that they supported before.
It does not legitimate the hate campagne against Hungary, but I think he has some strong points here.
Lasslax says
Sorry for my typos, it´s a very small keboard on my phone
gravenimage says
Even if you believe Hungary “deserves” this, how is this Muslim invasion into Hungary and Germany going to improve things for Jews–or anyone else, except for the conquering Mohammedan hordes?
Lasslax says
Of course it gives no improvment. My jewish friends notice is more about the irony, that the country is paid back with its own coin.
Should be a warnings finger for those campagning against Israel or as in this case against Hungary – that next time it can be THEM pointed at as black sheep.
jayell says
Well, looks like these people want to make a ‘nice’ impression so that we’ll all want to welcome them as good neighbours! (Actually, they must all realise that a lot of people over here are watching this. So isn’t the bottom line something more like…’We don’t care what you think about us’? Which is, in turn….’We don’t care about you (we just want what you’ve got)’. Which is what Islam is all about, even more or less with their own kind (NB. the response of the Gulf States to these people….”They are not our own people, they are too poor to live up to our standards” – quoted from the Gatestone Institute, I kid you not!!!) Sorry to be so blunt, but why don’t our cock-eyed-optimistic (or just plain deluded/thick) ‘leaders’ just accept the unsavoury fact that these ‘people’ are – to all practical intents and purposes – rubbish, no good to anyone, even themselves, and all they’re going to do is reduce everywhere they infest to rubbish and abuse and drag down any unfortunate person/society/country that they contaminate. You can’t say that’s ‘prejudice’, because the appalling evidence about this human flotsam is sadly staring us in the face!!! Sorry. That’s the way it is.
gravenimage says
With respect, jayell, this has nothing to do with these invaders being “poor”–the United States has long welcomed such “rubbish”, and such people have usually thrived when given the chance. This is, in fact, enshrined on the Statue of Liberty.
The problem here is not some sort of mythical genetic determination of poverty–instead, it is that these Muslim invaders adhere to a violent and conquering creed.
And the Gulf States don’t want them for two reasons–many of them won’t consider these countries sufficiently Islam, and so will wage violent Jihad there; and they want them in the West, where they can threaten and destroy us.
jayell says
“the United States has long welcomed such “rubbish”, and such people have usually thrived when given the chance.”
Very good. My concern is (a) with the raisond’etre of the modern Nation Sate and (b) with the overall impact of extraneous groups upon the condition of the State and the well-being of its citizens. A ‘country’, ‘society’ or ‘state’ does NOT exist as an international charitable institutuon nor a general social/economic resource for a world population to avail itself of its resources as and when individuals from wherever feel so inclined to take advantage. It is rather a product of its constituent citizens and exists primarily for the benefit of its constiuent citizens and does not necessarily owe any duty of care to those who are not its prime responsibility. It is the responsibility of each separate State to see to the welfare of its citizens, and to be held to account by the International Community if it fails.To take the opposing view, and to take this to the absurd, would result in an intolerable burden on a minority of responsible societies around the world to facilitate the well-being and development of the world’s population, and which would in turn fail, to the detriment of all. So, whilst the USA may be justly proud of its record in allowing individuals from wherever place on the planet to thrive, the USA should not be deemed to have any such duty towards extraneous individuals. And the same should apply to any other ‘desirable’ country, State or Society.
My second point is that, where any society or State acts with generosity beyond its proper remit in admitting and supporting those to whom it has no original duty, it is incumbent upon those who have sought to present themselves in order to benefit from this (unearned) generosity to conduct themselves in a correctly respectful manner that would not in any way prejudice (collectively) the integrity and well-being of either their adopted State or (individually) the safety and well-being of its citizens. Where this standard of behaviour and attitude is NOT abided by, or, on all evidence, not likely to be abided by, those responsible should, individually and collectively, be deemed to be unsatisfactory as candidates for support by a prospective host nation/society and their presence not entertained. In the last analysis this is simply a case of expecting basic good manners, civility, consideration and proper respect from those to whom no duty is owed, and to dismiss those who fail, or apparently lack the fundamental social competence to conform to such basically reasonable standards. Which is all a long-winded way of saying that no-one should be expected to tolerate rubbish. You disagree?
kay says
Re Jayell: “Very good. My concern is (a) with the raisond’etre of the modern Nation Sate and (b) with the overall impact of extraneous groups upon the condition of the State and the well-being of its citizens. …”
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TRUTH x 2.
Well said Jayell.
I coulda put forward something of what you said. My writing would have done the job, but not have been half as effective as your statement.
I’m gonna steal and partially rework your stuff here. So, thank you. 🙂 🙂
Richard says
Some would say it seems as if the culture of entitlement has been extended magically, to include anyone who can make it, never mind about who pays. The excuse being that it has so far proved difficult for policy makers to come up with an effective strategy to counter feuding warlords in an era of nation-states.
kim says
christians in europe are facing imminent danger from this muslim. They finish christians in their countries and now advancing to europeans
kay says
Re: “christians in europe are facing imminent danger from this muslim. They finish christians in their countries and now advancing to europeans…”
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There are stages of jihad. Christians get marginalized, then oppressed, they lose their lands and basic rights, they are forced to migrate, and down the road they get exterminated. This is the nature of Islam. It is fascism.
The danger is progressive. Actual destruction and enslavement of Christians in Europe would occur over a three hundred year period or longer.
Basically you have to look at what happened in Turkey and Egypt. And to do that you need to study Doctor Bill’s History:
Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
The point here is that civilizational jihad occurs Over Many Generations.
Looks like things are speeding up in Europe. Looks like a compressed schedule for civilizational warfare.
A critical issue is the key support of internal traitors/ collaborationists, meaning the leftist street protestors, the press, European Union officials, national elected officials, and academia.
There is not much imminent danger to European Christians right now.
The imminent danger is to Jews and to women.
European Jews and women should be terrified. And in fact a good many of them are.
The Christians get smashed later.
Anyway, get the overall historical story from Dr. Bill’s video.
The indigenous Europeans will have to fight back, with or without the support of the police. This century there will be more and more blood in the streets of major European cities.
Like I say elsewhere, you can back up a lion only so far, but when it is up against the wall it will stop retreating and come out, fighting to the death.
The nature of Islam is war and cruelty, and there will be Europeans who refuse to live as caged animals.
That’s why I prefer the old Celtic ethic to the pacifist early Christian ethic.
As Stephane Charbonnier said: “I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.”
Learn from history says
Politicians who can’t take stern action against muslim invaders are basically signing the death warrant for their country. History DOES repeat itself and any country or empire that CANNOT control its borders is basically finished. The Roman Empire finished because their borders were porous. The same thing is happening now…if you want to live in Europe just walk in.
In turn, the people that pay their taxes leave as the conditions become unbearable. Jewish people (high end human capital…you know, people that aren’t freeloaders) are fleeing France in droves, leaving just the muslims who are there to bleed the country dry. Europe is finished.
Pistache says
The “Allah uAkbar” shouting has been captured and shown by Belgian (Flemish) television, yesterday noon ; see at 11:57 on the video: http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/videozone/programmas/journaal/2.40979
kay says
Bill Warner’s brand new video – share this widely!
Migration As Jihad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlKfQB6y0AM
Published on Sep 15, 2015
Migration is part of the doctrine of jihad. Migration is so important that the Islamic calendar is based upon the Hijra, Mohammed’s migration from Mecca to Medina. Why? Because it was migration that lead to the creation of jihad in Medina. And it was jihad that made Islam triumphant.
In the past Muslims tended to stay in Islamic countries. Today, the new politics is to migrate to Kafir lands and immerse themselves in local politics. This is the jihad of money, writing and speech.
Their politics is to bring the Sharia to Kafir culture. An example is using Islamic money is to build departments in universities that will support Sharia and never criticize Islam.
Truth Seeker says
Now it Very Clear, they are Not Refugees but Invaders with the Mission of Jihad. Still many Innocently call them Refugees! Blind to the Facts.
ICH says
Why is there no big news about Muslim countries NOT taking the refugees.
Saudi Arabia could take all of them.
Why is this our problem.
Jay Boo says
Syrian Muslims could go to the Hajj in Mecca, Saudi Arabia and then ask for asylum while there.
Muslims don’t seem to be complaining very loudly about Saudi closing there borders.
I bet the Syrians know that the Saudis would never put up with fence crashers. Instead of water cannons and tear gas there would be head chopping and MSM saying that is Saudi custom, so let’s not be judgmental.
Jay Boo says
Muslims don’t seem to respect our borders.
Maybe if the BORDER signs were (written in Arabic) they would utter a collective sigh, “Oh Well” and turn back.
Seriously though, Germany’s open door policy has invited this flood of Muslims.
Angela Merkel must have been feeling very self-congratulatory when Muslims already living in Germany began encouraging other Muslims to emigrate there as well.
Baucent says
Good on Hungary for standing up to the muslim invasion. Merkel and Germany have a lot to answer for for allowing this stampede. The old war time saying “loose lops sinks ships” springs to mind. Frau Merkel created the stampede by broadcasting that Germany expected 800,000 refugees this year. I hope the Hungarians send Merkel the bill for the border fence as this is a German created crisis.
gravenimage says
Muslim migrant mob screaming “Allahu akbar” tries to break through Hungarian border
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Does this rock-throwing, Allahu-Akbarring mob–made up almost entirely of aggressive young men–look like “refugees” to anyone here? I didn’t think so…
lakshmi narayan says
these people are way way well nourished than poor people in africa or india. the real hungry dont make noise. better that these people stay in th place where they are