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New Glazov Gang: Islamic Lobbyist Saba Ahmed vs. Ex-Islamic Imam Mark Christian on “Ben Carson and Islam”

Sep 29, 2015 11:41 am By Jamie Glazov

In this special edition of The Glazov Gang, I was joined by Saba Ahmed, an Islamic Lobbyist with the Republican Muslim Coalition, and Mark Christian, a former Islamic Imam who is now the president of the Global Faith Institute.

My two guests went toe-to-toe about Women’s Rights under Sharia and Ben Carson’s Comments about Islam.

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  1. Gary says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 11:56 am

    Saba,

    Would you please explain how Sharia Law is compatible with The Constitution of The United States of America?

    Sharia law:

    • Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand.
    • Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
    • A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
    • A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
    • A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
    • A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
    • Girls’ clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad’s words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
    • A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
    • A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband’s consent to divorce.
    • A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
    • Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
    • A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
    • A woman’s testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man’s.
    • A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
    • A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
    • A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
    • Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah – i.e., be Halal.
    • Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.

    • john spielman says

      Sep 29, 2015 at 1:14 pm

      excellent points and of course, no muslim apologist could ever deny that what you wrote is true. islam and sharia law is a FASCIST APARTHEID judicial economic military financial system wrapped in the guise of a religion

    • TH says

      Sep 29, 2015 at 3:12 pm

      All that she said is plain and simple taquiyya.

    • andrew sapia says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 9:44 pm

      Saba isn’t that the name a new seasonal donut at dunkin donuts. She is such a taqiya artist. Is cutting off the hend of a thief sharia and compatible with the US constitution? It’s such horse shit.

  2. Rodakowski says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 pm

    5:22 “Saba, is your testimony in court equal to a man’s under Shariah law?”
    Watch her mind do cartwheels trying to squirm out of this simple, direct question. She is a perfect example of cognitive dissonance at work.

    On one hand she says that Shariah is compatible with the constitution. But then she stumbles and fumbles when confronted with the fact that it isn’t… sadly she won’t admit it.

    Excellent job Glazov for calling her out on not answering the question.

    • Jamie Glazov says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 3:20 am

      Thank you!

      • t. says

        Oct 1, 2015 at 9:27 am

        Jamie,

        You always come to your work well prepared, clear minded, relaxed, alert and it shows!

        I get a lot of pleasure and satisfaction watching you handling Muslims trying to defend the indefensible.

  3. Azita Kerendian says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    It is very interesting that Saba refuses to discuss negative aspects of Sharia law. However, she tries to defend it.

    • t. says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 11:17 am

      Exactly! No doubt in my mind that she’s practicing Taqqiya or Kitman here, and she knows it!

  4. Michael Copeland says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    As Dr Mark Christian says, you cannot “pick and choose” what parts of Islam to observe.
    Islam INSTRUCTS what to do, what to believe, whom to hate and so on. Muslims have no choice.
    “ It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision.”
    Koran 33:36, part of Islamic law.

    • Anthony says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 9:07 am

      @Michael…you nail her, but she is a professional liar and when you say lie over and over again, you eventually believe it to be truth. what a hypocrite saying alhamdulllilah for living in infidel’s country.

  5. Roger Gangitano says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    Hi Saba – It’s me again, and I’m going to, AGAIN, show you lie or just make up answers to defend Islam as you go along (Taquiyya)

    Saba said that Shariah gave rights of inheritance to women 1,400 years ago, then refused to admit a woman is entitled to only 1/2 the inheritance as a man under Shariah.
    Hey Saba!! –
    According to the Quran, 4:11: “Allah enjoins you about [the share of inheritance of] your children: A male’s share shall equal that of two females — in case there are only daughters, more than two shall have two-thirds of what has been left behind. And if there be only one daughter, her share shall be half — and if the deceased has children, the parents shall inherit a sixth each, and if he has no children and the parents are his heirs then his mother shall receive a third, and if he has brothers and sisters then the mother’s share is the same one-sixth. [These shares shall be distributed] after carrying out any will made by the deceased or payment of any debt owed by him (the deceased). You know not who among your children and your parents are nearest to you in benefit. This is the law of Allah. Indeed Allah is wise, all knowing.”

    So, Saba lied, as usual. “A male’s share (of inheritance) shall equal that of two females.” That seems clear enough, even to an infidel.

    Since, Saba’s tactic is to muddy the waters with as many erroneous comments as possible, let’s concentrate on just that one for now. Saba! Try to Focus on just the above – F..O..C..U..S. …. Does the inheritance of the woman equal 1/2 that of the male as the Quran verse 4:11 states, or not?

    Just that one question ….. Come on, Saba – Prove me wrong and answer the question.

    (Jimmy the Greek lays 8 to 5 against her answering the question!)

  6. Angemon says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    Well, miss Saba, no one is pointing a gun to your head and forcing you to remain in the US – how about putting your theory to the test? Move to Iran, or Saudi Arabia, and se how you fare there under sharia. Maybe that way you’ll learn to answer questions instead of dodging them and trying to throw sand in our eyes. What goes on in Iran and Saudi Arabia is because of the government? Sure, let’s forget that those governments try to base their laws in islamic principles. Also, it’s no wonder you’d love to have tax law based in islamic principle – sweet, sweet jizya.

    And she’s a government official? It seems the more one probes the issue, the more right Dr. Carson seems to be…

  7. livingengine says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    i can’t stand Saba.

    • Judi says

      Sep 29, 2015 at 6:32 pm

      Me neither!

  8. somehistory says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    She is very foolish…only fooling herself and refusing to see the truth.
    When asked about the rights of women, she refused to answer the question asked and said what money she had, she wasn’t forced to hand any of it over. But she never admitted that if she and her brother were inheriting a property, he would get more…whatever he was told to do with it…he would get more.

    And she is *thankful* that she lives in America…proud that she is *part of the government* but also says, she would be *happy in another moslem country.* She should admit the U.S. is not a moslem country.
    And she should also admit that governments in moslem countries enforce the unlawful code of islam…and not just another form of government that chooses to limit the rights of women…such as driving and going out alone or wearing what they wish to wear.

    Mr. Christian was an imam…isn’t that the title of the guy in her barracks who does the *teaching* of their unholy book to her? And she is pretending to know more…..having to ask just where in their unholy writings what he was telling her is written.

    She is a blind fool. She will remain a fool as long as she refuses to admit just how evil islam is and the only *rights* she has as a moslem woman is because she lives in a country where her religion has not yet taken over the government…as she evidently hopes it will.

    And saying that Dr. Carson shouldn’t be allowed to have his own opinion on who should/should not be president because he personally wouldn’t want someone who practices the death cult of unlawful barbaric practices that are inspired by the devil to have that high office and use it to inflict his ideology on the country. She wants to pick and choose under which of those strictures she would be forced to live. But a moslem president wouldn’t stop at a few…he would go whole hog.

    She is so very foolish. And she has a place in government?

    • Gary Grammat says

      Sep 29, 2015 at 6:04 pm

      Some of the things she said was a pure taqqia, but her reaction and body language were natural when she said that Mohammed never bit his wives. She really did not know. Wouldn’t one expect a woman, dressed like she does, to know such a basic thing about Islam?
      The point I am trying to make is that most moslems do not know Islam. What they do know is that “moslems are the best of people” and should dominate. That is why hijab. It is a spit in our face.

      • somehistory says

        Sep 29, 2015 at 7:08 pm

        A former imam who knows what is in the unholy writings tried to reason with her and set her straight, but she didn’t allow him to do so. She talked louder, talked over him, and argued with him as though she were arguing with someone who had never been a part of the cult.
        She wishes to remain blind.
        The scarf to me…something women in this country used to wear to keep their hair in place in the wind or to cover their hair while cleaning…maybe even to cover curlers if one had to go out shopping while getting ready for a later date, etc.
        Just because she’s spitting, doesn’t mean we have to accept the nasty droplets of her damaged dna. Treat her as though she isn’t wearing it…certainly doesn’t enhance her looks.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 30, 2015 at 5:16 pm

          You guys are sure desperate to exonerate her. She can’t know Islam, she can’t be lying; no, the poor helpless female is just “ignorant of her own Islam” and hasn’t yet been browbeaten by the “Clerics” who are the only real Muslims in Islam…? Is that your story you’re sticking to? There’s too much data about taqiyya and the false moderate for us to be reaching for ways to exculpate Muslims — especially given the horrific dangers we reasonably suppose they portend, worse than 911, int he coming decades.

  9. hocus pocus says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    if islam is sooooooooooooo great, why does she leave her muslim country of origin———–PAKISTAN, and move to a judeo-christian country. HYPOCRISY at its finest

    its simple as that, muslims in muslim countries and non muslims in non muslim countries. SIMPLE AS THAT. if muslims dont like there 3rd world country which was taken back to the stone age by colonialist, then migrate to a rich stable muslim country. SIMPLE AS THAT

  10. Ren says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    Saba Ahmed is not only ignoring parts of the islamic scriptures, she is denying them. She is lying to herself and to others. She is not trustworthy.

  11. Judi says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    This woman speaks so much nonsense. Brigette Gabriel takes her down in this heated debate:

  12. pdxnag says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    The universally recognized Islamic/Sharia law requiring the death penalty for apostasy from Islam is sufficient all by itself to ban recognition of any and all Islam-based organizations as lawful.

  13. nacazo says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    I give her the benefit of the doubt. She didn’t even know that Mohamed hit his wife Aisha in the chest which caused her pain. She should learn more about what Mohamed did (sharia) and not what she thinks is sharia (whatever is convenient for her), If she learns more about Islam she may renounce sharia. Glazov and Christian just need to point to the truth.

    • Lynne Marton says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 2:10 am

      Saba = Taqiyya That’s the beginning, the middle and the end. She just sat there and disseminated and deflected and blustered her way through the whole thing – never sticking to the points that Mark Christian was trying to get her to admit to – lies all through. She’s a pro, all right!! Taqiyya is her name!!!!

      She does this all the time – I have seen her on several “debates” and it is always the same with her. And she is listed all over as a “Muslim leader activist” – not just a lawyer.

      Here’s a write up on her from 2011 – very much to the point of her radicalism.

      https://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/saba-ahmed-radical-muslim-for-congress/

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 5:39 pm

      You don’t know much about taqiyya, do you? Three things for us to know about taqiyya:

      1) widespread — how widespread it is in Islamic holy texts, teachings, and behavior of Muslims throughout the ages right up into our present.

      2) deep penetration — only by spending years acquainting yourself with a variety of reports from travelers, astute journalists of old, historians, ex-Muslims, non-Muslims who have lived among Muslims, does it begin to dawn on one how deeply it penetrates into the Mohammedan psyche & culture;

      3) motivation & function — taqiyya is not merely for the Muslim to hide the true Islam from the kuffar while the Muslim perceives himself or herself to be weak relative to the power of the enemy; it also functions much like the Communist Soviet tactic of Dezinformatsiya (“Disinfromation”) — to foster & foment a broad climate of confusion (enormously helped already by the West’s own Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism & Cluelessness). If one has noticed, there is a wide array of different types of Islamopologist out there, ranging from “fundamentalist” to “extremist” to slick and clever knowing just what sweet nothings to say to the hapless Westerner, to the seemingly sincere “reformers”. For just a glimpse of what I mean, consider one slice of the spectrum: Anjem Choudhery — Tariq Ramadan — Reza Aslan — Maajid Nawaz — Zuhdi Jasser. Multiply these by hundreds of flavors & styles, many less famous but still invited to televised or radio round-tables, or writing op-eds, or attending town halls to weigh in with their voice, meanwhile Tweeting and Facebooking galore.

      With this jungle of diversity and cacophany of voices, and with the West’s anxious need to remain in Denial of the full catastrophe of Islam, and the global train wreck of a shitstorm its metastasis is devolving into around the world and increasingly inside the West, each contribution of calculated, complex evasions & obfuscations performs its small part in the Jihad of Ideas which Muslims are currently waging far more effectively than the West’s War of Ideas… We may surmise that Muslims have a better sense than we do of the effectiveness of each small drop of activity, repeated over and over in stillicide; for they think collectively, as an army of ants, and they are patient with a long view of history, taking pious comfort in the prospect that victory will come after their lifetime, as long as each Believer does his part, whatever it is…

      to sincerely reform-minded

      • voegelinian says

        Sep 30, 2015 at 5:41 pm

        scratch that last dangling phrase at the bottom…

      • Angemon says

        Sep 30, 2015 at 6:31 pm

        How do you account for apostate “ants”, voeg? Also, why are Saudi Arabia and Iran at odds with one another and both at odds with the islamic state? You know, since they think collectively “like a colony of ants” and stuff.

      • Roger Gangitano says

        Sep 30, 2015 at 8:27 pm

        That just about sums it up ….

  14. nacazo says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    Sahih Muslim Book 004, Hadith Number 2127

    When sleeping with Aisha Muhammad surreptitiously left his bed and went to the graveyard at Baqi; Aisha spied and followed Muhammad; when Muhammad learned Aisha’s misdeed he hit her (beat her) on her chest that caused much pain to Aisha…[she was only 8 yrs old]

    Not only that Muhammad, in verse 4:34, asked men to beat their wives, he, at his last days, during last pilgrimage sermon, exhorted men to treat women as domestic animals, deny them food (when necessary, to discipline them) and and to beat them (just like the Bedouin Arab barbarians were used to beating their cattle).

    A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife…11.2142

    Book 11, Number 2142: Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.

  15. More Ham Ed says

    Sep 29, 2015 at 11:36 pm

    The first two things that come out of her mouth are (1) arrogance, (2) victimology, then it’s exaggeration, lying, deception, deflection, false accusation, combined with a claim of “YOU’RE extreme” all while 400 million muslims worldwide believe in the death penalty for leaving islam. Another stuck-in-islam deceiver trying to put a facade on islam.

    http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

    Quote: “Thank goodness I live in the United States…” (a non-islamic country).

    • Roger Gangitano says

      Sep 29, 2015 at 11:59 pm

      More Ham Ed – 400 million Muslims worldwide would be nice ….. Unfortunately, there’s 1.6 BILLION of ’em worldwide! – – – Just sayin’ ….

      • More Ham Ed says

        Sep 30, 2015 at 1:54 am

        The link refers to a secular, publicly available poll, not a census. It proves a minimum adherence to sharia, not a maximum. The point is, show me where 400 million of any other belief system believe in the death penalty for leaving the belief system.

        • Roger Gangitano says

          Sep 30, 2015 at 8:55 am

          My mistake … And, I really shouldn’t have missed that. I have both the 2007 and the 2011 Pew Reports on American Muslims on my desktop and refer to them often. Sorry.

  16. Karen says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 12:09 am

    Sharia Law is just a way of life? Now I know you are a liar, Saba Ahmed.

    Saba Ahmed, I see that you are faithfully quoting CAIR. Try having an original thought; does that vile organization write all your material? The U.S. Constitution prevents any religious test as a precondition to run for office, and is a restriction on the power of government, not individuals. Ben Carson was not suggesting that Muslims be prevented from running for office, as you well know. He *was* suggesting that the people of a Constitutional Republic should think twice about voting for anyone likely to promote Sharia. Any individual, including Ben Carson, can apply any test they please in the ballot box.

  17. Guest says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 12:18 am

    Let’s be totally clear: ‘women’s rights’ aren’t necessarily the same as equal rights. We need to emphasize equal rights. Sure, sharia allows women some rights. The difference must be made clear to everyone discussing this issue.

  18. D Brown says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 2:48 am

    The type of government official status Saba holds as a licensed attorney requires her to uphold U.S. law, therefore if she were to admit that she might place Sharia above U.S. law she could be risking sanctions or revocation of her license, which is unlikely to happen. But it’s still the type of thing an attorney would avoid saying publicly.

  19. Veronica says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 6:37 am

    Islam is a dangerous belief system at it’s root – notwithstanding millions of Muslims who are good people brought up to believe it is a good faith. I think that Carson’s view of the ‘faith’ is correct, given the chance the leadership of this ‘cult’ would subject us all to conformity-or-else ! We can all see that now and realize what a danger it is to the rest of the world. Now starts global war – maybe gradually – but i fear that is what we are witnessing because NOW their leadership knows the ‘jig is up’ ! We must put the ‘genie’ back in it’s bottle before it is too late. This Muslim lady represents what SHE thinks and has been taught to believe is the root of her ‘faith’, while not accepting that if the zealots get control, her lifestyle is in jeopardy. My feeling is that all is well for them as long as there is no confrontation – if there were however she would be forced to support whatever her local Imam said – or be in danger herself, and they know that !!

  20. alyn21 says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 8:35 am

    Difficult to tell whether Saba is lying or just incredibly stupid. People should not rule out the possibility of the latter although the former is probably correct.

  21. Blitz2b says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 10:57 am

    Jamie, Thanks for the entertaining exchange between Mark and Saba. Looking forward to round 2 between the two of them.

    It is apparent that Saba knows that she is not being forthright about Islam and the sharia, yet she is compelled to defend it tooth and nail.

    When you asked her if she was glad that she lived in the US she quickly quipped “alhamdulillah” (equivalent to “praise the Lord”), yet she said that if she lived in the KSA or any other Muslim country she would also be happy… Really? How can one love freedom and slavery at the same time boggles the mind.
    Well in reality if you are a Mussalmah you can easily justify that absurdly oxymoronic notion.

    Islam gives women equal rights to men, yet their inheritance is half of their counterparts. Men and women are equal in Islam yet women are equivalent to “tilth” or property that men can’use’ whenever they desired.

    Saba asked Mark ” Did the prophet Muhammad ever beat his wife?” …. What a ridiculous question for a Muslim to ask… I’m like ” well duh?… What do you know about Islam woman?”

    Mohammed’s wife Aisha even noted that the believing women were the most oppressed of all.

    Anyway thanks once again for brother Mark and his well researched answers.

    We need to do a lot more to inform and educate the ignorant Islam patronizing left, so that we can actually put a name on the enemy that has a clear divinely inspired agenda to dominate and subjugate us all.

  22. Daniel Rubio says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 11:09 am

    If I lived in a place where the law is so great and was dictated by none other than allah (some kind of god) to none other than the pedophile criminal I revered as a prophet, I wouldn’t want to leave that place at all. I wouldn’t have to struggle to convince the rulers of the country I move to that they implement this grandiose law, because that law is already in place and I live so happy, with a full life, meaningful, bountiful, with the creativity and multiculturalism such as I would advocate in the places where I want to move to.

    Therefore, why do muslims by the millions pour down over all of the Western countries where until the mid 70’s nobody had heard anything about them, their blood-thirsty god, their murdering prophet and their horrible, backwards, discriminatory ways?

    Because these millions of muslims have been activated in their deep-fried brain by their hating imams and other leaders to conquer those lands. They believe that the time is ripe for them to start a conquest of the magnitude that rendered to islam the vast areas they dominate today in the Middle East, in Southeastern Asia, in many ex-Soviet countries, in most of Africa and in Indonesia.

    You see, muslims know they don’t stand a chance in common warfare agains the Western culture. So since the mid 70’s, they’ve been cultivating with lavish cash gifts several key-positioned useful idiots in Europe, Australia and North America and they are battling a new kind of warfare that planes and tanks and standing armies and aircraft carriers cannot fight. The new fighting tactic is the immigration warfare that important muslim leaders such as Turkey’s Erdogan and Lybia’s Kadaffi so much warned about.

    And whatever a lying muslim says, with very few, numbered exceptions, is just that: a lie, taqiyya, another one of the tools in the muslim repertoire: stating a lie and fooling your neigbor into thinking something sugar-coated and untrue, as this specimen Saba just did at the Glazov Gang. Taqiyya is the tool used when your physical power is less than that of your opponent and that is allowed to achieve the ultimate goal of world subjugation.

    Or does anyone think that if the muslims had the military power, they would still be condescending and negotiating with us infidels?

  23. Mirren10 says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    Isn’t this the same repulsive lying cow that Brigitte Gabriel wiped the floor with ? Typical muslim.

    • Roger Gangitano says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 8:24 pm

      MOoooooo got that right!

      I mean, YOU got that right! Not only Brigitte Gabriel, but Tom Trento also ripped her to shreds, as has anyone else who knows anything about Islam. The woman is just a glutton for punishment. She must be “into” that S & M stuff.

      She likes to tell everyone that she wears the Hajib because she’s modest. The lipstick, eye-liner and nose piercing must also be signs of Islamic modesty. What would Mohammed say?!

  24. andrew sapia says

    Sep 30, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    she says it’s sad that since 9/11 Islam has been defined by terror. Yet her prophet said God has made me victorious by terror.

    • Roger Gangitano says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 11:17 pm

      Only Saba says Islam has been defined by terror since 9/11/2001…. “TheReligionofPeace.com” keeps a count of the deaths caused by Islamic terrorists since 9/11/2001. The count , as of this writing, stands at 26,989. Each death is documented in the site for those who don’t believe the number is accurate.

      Non-Muslims know that Islam has been defined by terror for the last 1,400 years.

      Saba doesn’t respond to any questions she’s asked about Islam – No matter what the question is, she will reply with a Quranic verse, (usually an abrogated one), or spout an Islamic talking point. Attempts to communicate with her are futile.

  25. dan says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    If she is equal to men then why ain’t she got four husbands??her husband has four wives?.Think of the housing benefits you could all have in UK.

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