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Relax: Australia and Indonesia to work together to rehabilitate jihadis

Sep 27, 2015 11:01 pm By Robert Spencer

How they propose to do this is unclear. Probably they think they will rehabilitate these jihadis by showing them that the tragically misunderstood Qur’an is actually a Book of Peace. Perhaps they will be able to get John Kerry or Pope Francis or David Cameron or some other world-class authority on Islamic teaching to go to Australia and Indonesia and explain to these jihadis how they are misunderstanding Islam.

Rehabilitation programs for jihadis have failed spectacularly in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. But that won’t stop Western authorities from throwing a few hundred million their way.

Julie Bishop

“Australia and Indonesia to work together to rehabilitate hundreds of convicted terrorists,” by Nick O’Malley, Sydney Morning Herald, September 28, 2015 (thanks to Kenneth):

Australia and Indonesia will work together to rehabilitate hundreds of convicted terrorists expected to be released from Indonesian prisons in the coming years.

Addressing a high level counter-terrorism meeting hosted by the United States Secretary of State, John Kerry, on the sidelines United Nations General Assembly in New York, Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop said Australia and Indonesia would hold a conference next month on the threat posed by convicted terrorists who will soon finish their sentences.

“We are aware that in the coming years a significant number of prisoners in Indonesian prisons who have been convicted of terrorist related activities will be released, it runs to the hundreds, and of course if they have not been rehabilitated then they pose a serious risk, not only to our country but to our region,” Ms Bishop said after the meeting.

During the meeting of the Global Counter-Terrorism Forum, both Mr Kerry and Ms Bishop urged the international community to step up its efforts against the threat of foreign fighters.

Mr Kerry said the number of foreign fighters engaged with ISIS in Syria and Iraq had increased by an estimated 3000 to up to 33,000, despite combat operations and efforts to stem the flow of foreign fighters in the region.

And he said that the successes the international community had enjoyed in preventing their citizens from travelling to the region to fight presented another problem – what to do with radicalised citizens now kept in their home countries, but still in online contact with terrorist organisations.

He said it was now necessary to deal with what he called the “lifecycle” of terrorism, from online radicalisation to the de-radicalisation and reintegration of returning fighters.

Speaking after the meeting Ms Bishop said the number of Australians thought to be engaged with terrorist organisations in Iraq in Syria had doubled to 120 over the past 12 months.

But she said she expected that trajectory to slow as efforts to prevent potential fighters from getting access to passports began to take affect.

“What we are seeking to do is preventing them from joining Daesh in Iraq and Syria to prevent them from becoming experienced terrorists… and then making their way back to Australia,” she said….

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  1. Jeremiah says

    Sep 27, 2015 at 11:10 pm

    Is this another Obama Foreign Initiative?

    • Scott M says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 4:15 am

      No, its not – but this woman recently showed everyone in Australia what a conniving, deceitful individual she really is. She is supposed to be representing the ‘conservative’ side of politics – but since the political coup she helped orchestrate last week – we have all got to see her true face.

      She is a leftist imbecile, that now holds high office – and doesnt it show? Her ego is just bursting.

      This is just another DUMB ‘initiative’ which we ALL know just means throwing millions of dollar$ at a problem they have not got the faintest chance or idea of how to fix.

      • particolor says

        Sep 28, 2015 at 5:53 am

        She may as well have gone to China and told them to Stop eating Rice !!

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Sep 28, 2015 at 10:43 am

        It’s a cold comfort to see that Oz like the States is in the clutches of fake conservatives who naturally are in the thrall of the mantra Islam is one of the world’s great religions one of the three Abrahamic faiths it is being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists doggerel. Look at Europe today, and see our future. It’s not that far of a boar ride from Indonesia to Australia, and anybody can walk across the Rio Grande, Mexico is ok with that. There is trouble and it is incoming.

        • umbra says

          Sep 28, 2015 at 11:19 am

          Cultural progressiveness has caused severe retardation of common sense in western countries. This in turn has allowed the continual weakening of western cultures. It seems that most people in western societies are afraid to stand up against anything that threatens the increasingly precarious culture that they take for granted. One day, some parts of western cultures may very well be consigned into the pages of history books (or oblivion) much like pre-islamic cultures in saudi arabia.

    • brenrod says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 8:29 am

      here’s an idea: encourage and send wannabe jihadis to fight in foreign deserts to be killed, after they go revoke their citizenship and dont let them back. If they cannot kill enough of each other there then send planes to kill them there in the foreign lands
      gosh, looks like they are almost doing that but they need to send more, not let them back, find a way to kill more of them in foreign and revoke their citizenship

  2. Jeremiah says

    Sep 27, 2015 at 11:13 pm

    What is Julie Bishop smoking?

    • Huck Folder says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 12:44 am

      “What we are seeking to do is preventing them
      from joining Daesh in Iraq and Syria to prevent them
      from becoming experienced terrorists…
      and then making their way back to Australia,” she said….

      How about not letting any more in in the first place?
      How about getting rid of all those that you can now?
      How about streamlining the rules that you have; NO APPEALS!
      How about creating legislation to OUTLAW islam,
      preparatory to mass deportations/relocations?
      How about making all mosques and groups liable
      (jointly and severally?) to compensate Australians
      and all their services for all costs of islamic mayhem?
      How about indigene Australians FIRST?
      Not INCOMPATIBLE supremacist moslem ALIENS?

      • Peggy says

        Sep 28, 2015 at 1:43 am

        Hey, stop making so much sense. It’s not PC.

    • Angemon says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 7:18 am

      Obama’s secret stash, apparently.

    • von says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 8:23 am

      This lady is probably smoking the same stuff as frau Merkel is.

      • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

        Sep 29, 2015 at 12:13 am

        True.

        It hits me: I never thought I’d encounter any group more impervious to ‘rehabilitation’ than pedophiles. But I have-islamic terrorists.

        Of course they both share pedophilia. Interesting.

  3. mortimer says

    Sep 27, 2015 at 11:15 pm

    There is no way to ‘rehabilitate’ jihadists unless they are completely DEPROGRAMMED right out of Islam.

    Normative Islam is a jihadist death cult, but the politicians will never learn that until after they read the ISLAMIC SOURCE TEXTS for the very FIRST TIME!

    • ECAW says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 7:40 am

      Always the “D” word Mortimer, but never any details about how it should be done or any evidence that it has ever worked anywhere in the past.

      Is it not patronising to imagine that jihadis can be persuaded that what they’ve invested their whole identity and future in is just a crock of shit? Wouldn’t it be better, and more realistic, to accord them the dignity of simply being our implacable enemy who must be confronted accordingly?

  4. Peggy says

    Sep 27, 2015 at 11:19 pm

    They are probably just going to throw some holy water over them and ask them to accept Christ.
    They are such morons.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 27, 2015 at 11:23 pm

      Disagree. They will try to convince the jihadists that there is a ‘good version’ of Islam that doesn’t contain JIHAD!

      That is naïve and uninformed. The authentic version of Islam contains jihad and jihad is its HIGHEST DEED!

  5. mortimer says

    Sep 27, 2015 at 11:20 pm

    Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop and her colleagues needs to read books on the JIHAD DOCTRINE and master it. Otherwise, most of what they try to accomplish will be uninformed and INEFFECTIVE!

  6. Catherine says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 12:32 am

    The only thing that will stop them (for now) is to defeat ISIS militarily! They are recruiting tens of thousands from around the world because they are successful and many Muslims believe this is the real Caliphate foretold in the Qur’an. The minute they are defeated, recruiting will drop off, because people will no longer believe it was the real Caliphate, since the real Caliphate could not have been defeated!

    • simpleton says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 2:23 am

      How will you allow for the “law of war” and adjust the rules of engagement? so your country will even have a chance of winning.
      Whether with UN Charters and then Security Council, Hague Conventions, Geneva Conventions, +Protocols, etc. etc.,
      Then there are UN Human Rights issues, Cairo Declaration of Human Rights ( which is ratified by 57 islamic states and now th United Nations Commission on Human Rights accepted the resolution for “Defamation of Religions” and evolved to protect all believers.

      Will any leader chance their arm and risk being turned over to a world court?

      I am not getting at you, as I see the noose tightening on Western Civilization, and much is done in this direction by the government politicians, and then again have been voted in by the people.and then NGO’s.

      • umbra says

        Sep 28, 2015 at 11:27 am

        One solution is to have either China, Russia or both handle the war in the manner each/both see fit. Russia/China would then shove those ROE and various conventions into the same hole that those terrorists will be sent into.

      • Peggy says

        Sep 29, 2015 at 7:17 am

        I’ve never seen US or Australia having any of their military personnel sent to Hague.
        Don’t worry about that.
        I would love to see someone try to arrest a US general.

  7. underbed cat says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 1:02 am

    It is very difficult to the narrative that is in the jihadist mind, planted by the Koran and short or lifelong teaching, that those words are allah’s command. Not the normal religion to call for the death to infidels.
    Exposing the contradictions from what they think and the reality, might work, but it should be policy not to import refugees unless they want out. Reality and knowledge is coming far too late, since no one can get past the indoctrination that diversity is such a “godly goal” without knowing who is far from it.

  8. Jay Boo says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 1:05 am

    Ms Bishop proves that we have all been wrong.
    Followers of Islam really can be made peaceful, after all.

    Though the power of wishful thinking, willful ignorance and revisionist filtering of Islam’s sordid history, Islam can be whatever one desires it to be.

  9. Paulus says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 2:51 am

    Ashamed to see Australia feature yet again on Jihad Watch. Julie Bishop, now deputy party leader (Liberal) under at least three different leaders – Tony Abbott as PM was knifed only two weeks back – is nothing if not ambitious. She will cosy up to anyone or any regime to advance herself.

    Interestingly, another local member here from Melbourne, a Michael Danby of the ALP, has put up a billboard with a picture of her in a head scarf with Iran’s president, criticising her for getting close to Iran. Australia may have signed an MOU with Iran to allow consular access, student places etc in return for cooperation against IS and people smugglers.

    With Tony Abbott on the back bench and some of his other backers out of favour, Australia may feature even more on Jihad Watch, unfortunately. Our new PM, Turnbull, is even more ambitious than Bishop.

  10. No Fear says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 3:41 am

    Thank Dawkins I live in the Blue Mountains…….

    • PJG says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 8:10 am

      Nowhere is immune. What’s the bet the Blue Mountains will be chosen as the place to build NSW’s meganosque?

      • albert says

        Sep 28, 2015 at 6:19 pm

        Anjem Choudry said that Allah has commanded Muslims to conquer every mountain top on earth.

  11. john simpson says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 5:43 am

    I’ll be happy to rehabilitate them, and it will cost the taxpayer no more than $3.00 per terrorist. One strategically placed .32 calibre round at the intersection of the spinal column and the base of the skull.
    End of problem.

  12. duh_swami says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 5:45 am

    When Mahoundians say, ‘stupid kuffar’, they have a point…Then they laugh..\
    Mot apostates were self enlightened, not forced by kuffar iunto ;therapy’
    The very idea of kuffar therapy would be a joke to the pious.
    Stop fooling around with ‘feel good’ solutions that are not solutions.
    The way to treat a jihadist is harshly, very, very, harshly…They have committed, or would like to commit, crimes against humanity. in the name of Allah.
    “Therapy’ is far to good for them…Lead injections would be better…

  13. Anthony says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 6:31 am

    I heard the Indonesian government through the police dept has some sort of rehabilitation program/deradicalization for those jihadists, maybe it can works. Maybe if they stop reading the koran, they will turn to become peaceful moslems, afterall they started as peaceful moslems who don’t understand the contents of the koran. Remember they can recite but not necessarily understand.

  14. Sam says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Time to submit to Allah as he is punishing us infidels by making enabling liberals more stupid.

    Any better explanation? I will wait.

  15. albert says

    Sep 28, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    So Indonesia the Muslim country which tried to implement a policy of Genocide against Christians in East Timor are going to help to stop Islamic extremism, I thought the Aussies had too much sense to believe muslim lies.

    • Jeremiah says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 6:47 pm

      Blessed be the ignorant currently ruling Australia.

    • Mazo says

      Sep 28, 2015 at 9:34 pm

      Australia assisted Indonesia against East Timor and West Papua.

      Most of the Australians who support West Papua and East Timor are hardcore leftists. Its those leftists who everyone here hates, who protest for West Papua and East Timor.

      Most right-wing Australians support the Indonesian government because they hate Communists since the East Timor and West Papua independence movements are Marxist.

      • Semeru says

        Sep 29, 2015 at 9:10 pm

        The American-backed Indonesian invasion and subsequent genocide in East Timor was not a Jihad, it was an invasion to stop the spread of Communism.

        Indonesia did not try and force the East Timorese to convert to islam, but did enforce them to follow the Indonesian state ideology of Pancasila, hence an estimated one third of inhabitants were Catholics and two thirds were adherents of tribal religions ( East Timorese animist belief systems did not fit with Indonesia’s constitutional monotheism, resulting in mass conversions to Christianity. But by I990 virtually all original Timorese (90%) had become fervent Catholics.

        As Mazo has pointed out on several threads earlier, the fascist Suharto was backed not only by America, but by Australia, United Kingdom and Canada. Where as the Timorese where backed by Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) and Hassan di Tiro ( Free Aceh Movement)

        • Angemon says

          Sep 30, 2015 at 10:05 am

          Semeru posted:

          “The American-backed Indonesian invasion and subsequent genocide in East Timor was not a Jihad”

          In the mid 90’s, when anti-Indonesian riots broke out in East Timor, they were portrayed as the result of Western and Vatican interference. Ultra-orthodox muslims sided with Suharto and called for for jihad against independence fighters in East Timor, claiming they were anti-Islamic. I know you and your ilk live to sweep that under the rug and pretend Indonesia and Indonesians had nothing to do with Indonesia invading East Timor and attempting to wipe out the east Timorese and that it was all the fault of US and Australia.

          Also, that detracts nothing from what albert said: “Indonesia the Muslim country which tried to implement a policy of Genocide against Christians in East Timor“.

          “it was an invasion to stop the spread of Communism.”

          And the fear that an independent East Timor state would inspire some Indonesian provinces to secede. Plus, resources in the Timor gap. Again, ilk, sweep, pretend nothing to do with Indonesia, blame US and Australia.

          “As Mazo has pointed out on several threads earlier, the fascist Suharto”

          Who had the support of hardcore conservative muslims who called a jihad against the East Timorese in the mid 90’s, deeming their fight for independence as being anti-islamic.

          “was backed not only by America, but by Australia, United Kingdom and Canada.”

          Pretend Indonesia is guilt free, blame US and Australia, etc.

    • Raja says

      Sep 30, 2015 at 9:44 pm

      Albert,

      You have hit the nail on the head !!!!. Proverbs 25:11 says: Like apples of gold in settings of silver Is a word spoken in right circumstances.

      Thank you

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