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Robert Spencer in FrontPage Mag: Ben Carson in CAIR’s Crosshairs

Sep 21, 2015 10:13 am By Robert Spencer

In FrontPage today I discuss how Hamas-linked CAIR wants a Muslim President, and wants Carson to drop out for not wanting one:

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If Ibrahim Hooper of the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has any say in the matter, whoever the next President is, it won’t be Ben Carson. “He is not qualified to be president of the United States,” fumed Hooper, no doubt an unimpeachable authority on who is and is not qualified to be President, on Sunday. “You cannot hold these kinds of views and at the same time say you will represent all Americans, of all faiths and backgrounds.” What views? Carson said: “I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.” He said that this was because Islam contradicted important Constitutional principles.

CAIR, designated a terror organization by the United Arab Emirates, sent out an email Sunday saying it would hold a news conference demanding that Carson withdraw from the presidential race for daring to say these things. “Mr. Carson clearly does not understand or care about the Constitution, which states that ‘no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office,’” said CAIR top dog Nihad Awad. “We call on our nation’s political leaders – across the political spectrum – to repudiate these unconstitutional and un-American statements and for Mr. Carson to withdraw from the presidential race.”

But the problems with a Muslim being President aren’t religious, they’re political. Islamic law infringes upon the freedom of speech, forbidding criticism of Islam. Islamic law denies equality of rights to women. Islamic law denies equality of rights to non-Muslims. If a Muslim renounced all this, he or she could be an effective Constitutional ruler, but in today’s politically correct climate, no one is even likely to ask for such a renunciation. Instead, no one even acknowledges that these really are elements of Islamic law.

No one, that is, except the Muslim clerics who agree with Carson. Syrian Islamic scholar Abd Al-Karim Bakkar said in March 2009: “Democracy runs counter to Islam on several issues….In democracy, legislation is the prerogative of the people. It is the people who draw up the constitution, and they have the authority to amend it as well. On this issue we differ” — because in Islamic thought, only Allah legislates.

Abd Al-Karim Bakkar was reflecting a common view. Pakistan Muslim leader Sufi Muhammad said in May 2009: “I would not offer prayer behind anyone who would seek to justify democracy.” Mesbah Yazdi, leader of the Shia Taliban in Iran, said in September 2010 that “democracy, freedom, and human rights have no place” — in Islam, that is. Australian Muslim cleric Ibrahim Saddiq Conlan said in June 2011: “Democracy is evil, the parliament is evil and legislation is evil.”

In January 2013, the Saudi Islamic scholar Sheikh Abdul Rahman bin Nassir Al Barrak declared: “Electing a president or another form of leadership or council members is prohibited in Islam as it has been introduced by the enemies of Moslems.” The idea of popular elections, he said, “has been brought by the anti-Islam parties who have occupied Moslem land.”

Some Muslims in the West hold these views as well. In April 2015, Muslims in Wales plastered Cardiff with posters reading: “Democracy is a system whereby man violates the right of Allah and decides what is permissible or impermissible for mankind, based solely on their whims and desires. This leads to a decayed and degraded society where crime and immorality becomes widespread and injustice becomes the norm. Islam is the only real, working solution for the UK. It is a comprehensive system of governance where the laws of Allah are implemented and justice is observed.”

And two Muslim groups in Denmark last June called on Muslims to boycott the elections that were held that month. One explained: “We are committed to being active participants in our society, but it has to be on Islam’s terms, without compromising our own principles and values. Democracy is fundamentally incompatible with Islam, and it is a sinking ship.” The Grimshøj mosque in Aarhus agreed, issuing a statement saying that “people should stay clear of the voting booths. We have concluded that only Allah can pass laws, as he says himself in the Koran that this is so.”

Tunisian author Salem Ben Ammar wrote last month: “‘To hell with democracy! Long live Islam!’ One hundred percent of Muslims agree with that. To say anything else is apostasy from Islam. These two competing political systems are antithetical to each other. You can’t be democratic and be a Muslim or a Muslim and be a democrat. A Jew can’t be a Nazi and a Nazi can’t be a Judeophile.”

Question for Hamas-linked CAIR’s Hooper and Awad: are all these Muslims “Islamophobes” for saying that Islam and democracy are incompatible, or is that honor reserved only for Carson (and other infidels)? And are either or both of you cognizant of the irony of pretending to uphold Constitutional values while demanding that a man drop out of the Presidential race for the crime of exercising his freedom of speech? Are either or both of you aware that you have thereby just become poster children for how correct Ben Carson really was?

Carson was right. But now the media sharks, ever eager to do the bidding of Hamas-linked CAIR and other Islamic supremacists, will be circling – and hungry. If he is forced to drop out for saying things CAIR doesn’t like, it will be just one more nail in the coffin of the free society that CAIR disingenuously professes to love and support, but which it is actually doing all it can to subvert.

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  1. wildjew says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 10:16 am

    NBC reported last night Dr. Carson plans to “reach out to the Muslim community.”

    Does anyone remember how Herman Cain visited a Muslim Brotherhood, supremacist mosque / imam after he said local communities have the right to deny Muslims the right to build a mosque? It was the beginning of the end of his campaign.

    I hope Dr. Carson does not slip.

    • Katnis says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 10:51 am

      Sounds like a PR move to shut the mooslims up. Carson is a smart, thoughtful man. I doubt a tour and some hand-shaking will change his mind.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 11:11 am

      Ben Carson’s campaign website has a box where you can write lengthy thoughtful remarks to him. Send your praise for his courage, and urge him to be firm against the “outraged’ deluge of Muslims and even fellow cowardly candidates.

      SEND HIM A LINK TO THIS POST — AND, AS ASKED YESTERDAY, SEND HIM THE NAMES OF YOUR FAVORITE COUNTER-JIHAD WEBSITES. DO IT TODAY —- PLEASE.

      • jihad3tracker says

        Sep 21, 2015 at 12:12 pm

        ++++++++++++++++++ HOLY SHEEEEEET ! ! ! ! +++++++++++++++++

        I WRITE THIS AT 12;11 PM EASTERN TIME

        BOBBY JINDAL JUMPED INTO THE CYCLONE OF TRUTH ABOUT AN HOUR AGO.

        AND BEN CARSON GOT “SHARIA SPECIFIC” IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE HILL NEWSPAPER.

        • dlbrand says

          Sep 21, 2015 at 12:20 pm

          If there is a link on what Jindal stated, please provide that here.

          This topic, and what the Candidates have to state on it is crucial.

          Thanks, ahead of time.

          dl

  2. mortimer says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 10:22 am

    Dr. Carson has CORRECTLY DIAGNOSED that Islam is conspiratorial and not truth-based.

  3. RichardL says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 10:35 am

    Ben Carson has practical wisdom, phronesis. Maybe Eisenhower was the last president who also had wisdom.

    Having practical wisdom, Carson, habitually says the right things and will not go back on his words. It also will not harm him as people recognise a wise man when they see him.

    I believe his misspoke when when he said that he would be okay with a Mohammedan representative. Where is the difference? I believe he thinks that a Mohammedan cannot do so much harm as a member of congress.

  4. American says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 10:35 am

    This is a life or death issue for the Islamists; they can’t let it go – it must be fought now and in public. Carson now has a huge fight on his hands. Carson, of course, is correct. However, that doesn’t matter. Islam has been challenged and Islam will destroy all who confront Islam. If Carson folds on this issue, he will fade from the scene and disappear as a candidate. If he fights, it will be a brutal fight and maybe not one that he can win, in which case he will again disappear from the scene. However, the fight is needed for America and now is better than later.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 7:45 pm

      Absolutely correct.

  5. wildjew says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 10:38 am

    Senator Ted Cruz does NOT support Carson. Disappointing.

    • Katowice says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 10:51 am

      That’s a real shame. I liked Cruz mostly for his prior relationship with some of the prominent people in US counterjihad. But if he’s so desperate as to fall lockstep into the Marxist multicultural parade, what distinction does he have?

      • wildjew says

        Sep 21, 2015 at 11:30 am

        I have been a supporter of Senator Cruz. I listened to Cruz’s book on audio, “A Time for Truth: Reigniting the Promise of America.” In it I learned (should have known) Cruz worked on George W. Bush 2000 election and he worked in tandem with James Baker on the recount here in Fla. where Sami Al-Arian boasted he delivered the Muslim vote for Bush who I voted for in 2000.

        While Senator Cruz is critical of some of Bush’s more progressive policies, he did not mention the damage Mr. Bush did when he made the establishment of “Palestinian” state in Israel a formal goal of U.S. policy. Nor did he take him to task about the president’s ill-infomed notions about the religion of Islam and the Muslim world.

        This latest turn should come as no surprise I suppose.

        Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham Rebuke Ben Carson Over Anti-Muslim Comments

        “America is an idea, not owned by a particular religion.”

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-ben-carson-muslim_56000008e4b08820d91939e6

        • jihad3tracker says

          Sep 21, 2015 at 11:46 am

          Hello again, Wildjew — As probably one of the oldest commenters here (age 67) I have seen the events of many campaigns, recalling Kennedy-Nixon (1960) clearly.

          Having been lucky enough to get advance notice of what Carson would say on Meet The Press, when he opened his mouth and the words emerged — Islam-versus-Constitution —- at precisely 10:42 Eastern time, I actually spontaneously shouted a hallelujah of sorts. If I had a pet, I’m sure it would have jumped out the nearest window . . . That’s how loud old ancient J3T was.

          Back to the point: Yours Truly predicts that other candidates in a presidential race have NEVER come even remotely this close to a political tsunami, hoping — and reasonably expecting — that Allah’s pathology would continue to be the filthy invisible 10,000 pound elephant in America’s living room.

          So now they are in a panic, flailing arms and legs, as campaign managers attempt to keep their prized possessions from drowning. WE ARE IN FOR A HELLACIOUS SPECTACLE IN THE COMING DAYS, HILARIOUS AND PATHETIC SIMULTANEOUSLY.

  6. Angemon says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 10:42 am

    Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson must be sleeping on the wheel. Ibrahim Hooper is a Caucasian man talking down to an African-American, and CAIR has plenty of sweet, sweet petrodollars – where’s the racial racket? Are they afraid they’ll be labeled “islamophobes” for calling Hooper “racist”?

    • Don McKellar says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 10:59 am

      Both those old whores are afraid to offend moslems. Islamophobia trumps the race card.

    • Blitz2b says

      Sep 22, 2015 at 10:51 am

      @Angemon “… where’s the racial racket? Are they afraid they’ll be labeled “islamophobes” for calling Hooper “racist”?….”

      These are truly end time scenarios playing out, where evil reigns supreme even among the elect. It has become apparent that Islam is a much much bigger trump card than racism ever will be.

      This evil ideology disguised as religion has some kind of a supernatural diabolical dimension to it, wherein everyone in a position to gain something, could lose absolutely everything, if they oppose it.

      Only God knows how all this madness will pan out in the end.

  7. wildjew says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 10:43 am

    I gave a couple of small contributions to Cruz’s campaign earlier. Stupid me, huh? This is why I say it is best to watch these people and reserve judgment:

    Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham Rebuke Ben Carson Over Anti-Muslim Comments

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-ben-carson-muslim_56000008e4b08820d91939e6

    • dlbrand says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 10:52 am

      Fools, cowards, to the man.

      • john spielman says

        Sep 21, 2015 at 1:27 pm

        they are SPINELESS POLITICIANS. Carson is one of the few Righteous people in the race(Huckabee is another good man) for he speaks the truth. may God protect and prosper him

        • dlbrand says

          Sep 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm

          Indeed.

      • Lia Wissing says

        Sep 22, 2015 at 5:40 am

        End of Mr Cruz, and I had such high hopes for him.

        • gordon miller says

          Sep 22, 2015 at 9:19 am

          || Lia Wissing || I too had that thought, but am willing to let my support ride a bit longer for this otherwise highly- intelligent and decent man. I urge you and others to do the same. And after all, what are our other choices.

  8. dlbrand says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 10:46 am

    Marc, something screwy going on here again, as has been so the past while here for me.

    First, I sign in, only to be booted out once to page I wish to comment on.

    Once I sign back in, it states, noting in password box, though there is.

    Once I sign in again, it signed me in today as “Angemon.”

    Hence this prelude to my post–Debi Brand’s post, user name here, dlbrand:

    God bless Mr. Ben Carson.

    At last, a candidate running for the office of U.S. Presidency that has the courage to address Islam for what it is, and call it—Islam, not radical Islam, just pure basic “Sacred texts” substantiated Islam—by name.

    God bless the man. God bless his spokes-man, who, earlier this morning, defended Mr. Carson’s assertions on CNN, bowing none, standing firm.

    Fools now, like Carol Castello and friends, choking, at the fact fed to them, that, Muslim living among us pose a real problem. Choke at the fact, Dr. Ben Carson asserted no Muslim should ever be trusted with the office of the presidency of our U.S. of A.

    Do those fools know what a Muslim is? What makes one a Muslim–what beliefs make one a Muslim and what beliefs make them apostates of that faith system?

    Are there no books that define what makes one a Muslim? Of course there are, and plenty of them. Fools, run from the realities of what makes one Muslim. So do cowards.

    And for anyone, whatever their name may be, to run from schooling themselves on what makes one a Muslim, and then, dealing with candor on that fact, they have zero zero right to the office of the highest elected official in our nation, zero right, zero trust as one qualified to be Commander in Chief of our Warriors.

    • dlbrand says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 10:50 am

      Shows my username accurately now.

      dl

    • Angemon says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 11:31 am

      The wrong username is just for show, any comment you post gets posted under the correct username. At least that’s been my experience so far.

      • dlbrand says

        Sep 21, 2015 at 12:17 pm

        Good to know. But at times, I have trouble getting past the login page, password there, but informed nothing there.

  9. mortimer says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 11:03 am

    It may also be claimed that OTHER religions are incompatible with the presidency…such as…Hutterites (unworldly pacifism), Satanism, Rastafarianism, Black Magic, Aztec paganism, Cargo Cult, Scientology, Charles Manson Cult.

  10. Traci W Hooks says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 11:21 am

    I am sick and tired of CAIR demanding things all the freakin’ time!! Someone needs to hold a press conference and DEMAND that CAIR stop their whining and lying and just totally disband. I am sure they know that Islam is incompatible with democracy; they are liars.

    • Noel Eliscu says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 12:20 pm

      It is my personal opinion that CAIR is a corrupt front to bring the US Government and the way we live closer to Sharia. They lie ,promote hate and break laws. It is time to kick them out with the rest of the radical Muslims. Muslims who do not like it here and want to be under the Sharia should move. Multiculturalism is great when people come here and obey are laws and assimilate,not move here break our laws want us to change. It is time to say f–k you leave or become an American. We have to look at Europe who has seen an uptick in rape and other crimes by excepting these people. Please note the Arab countries do not want them.

  11. William says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 11:29 am

    The Islam question will define the candidates. Most, if not all, will fail the test.

    • dlbrand says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 12:16 pm

      Yup. And America to boot.

  12. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 11:35 am

    And two Muslim groups in Denmark last June called on Muslims to boycott the elections that were held that month. One explained: “We are committed to being active participants in our society, but it has to be on Islam’s terms, without compromising our own principles and values.

    He can say this with utmost confidence because even when they don’t vote, the blond haired blue eyed Infidels will still shower them with prerogatives and free money. Praise Allah!

  13. dlbrand says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    What is a Muslim?

    “Scripturally” speaking, the Qur’an tell us, a Muslim is one who submits to Allah, as we read here, “Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah’s Will).” (Qur’an, Surah 3:64)

    “Allah’s will,” is clearly tied to and understood in words and commands found in the Islamic “sacred texts” that are attributed to him. Amongst those words and commands, these: “Obey Allah and the Messenger so that perhaps you will gain mercy.” (3: 132.) “Whoever obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah.” (4:80.)

    The Qur’an provides, Allah commanded Muhammad to say to the believers, “ ‘If you love God, follow me, and God will love you, meaning that He will reward you.” (3:31)

    Hence, hadith tells us, the Messenger of Allah asserted, “Whoever obeys me, obeys Allah, and whoever disobeys me, disobeys Allah.” (Sahih.)

    (Sunan Ibn Majah, English Translation, Compiled by: Imam Muhammad Bin Yazeed Ibn Majah Al-Qazwini, Ahadith edited & referenced by: Hafiz Abu Tahir Zubair ‘Ali Za’I, Translated by: Nasiruddin al-Khattab [Canada], Final review by: Abu Khaliyl [USA], Darussalam. Vol. 4, P 101, #2859.)

    Therefore, we see, a basic tenet of Islam is Allah’s will for Muslims to obey and follow the one Islam projects as their “Prophet,” “Allah’s Messenger.”

    The Qur’an further tells us, “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him [–his Companions among the believers –] are fierce to the unbelievers, [and do not show mercy to them,] merciful to one another … (Surah 48: 29; Tafsir al-Jalalayn [Revered Commentary on the Qur’an].)

    It tells us, “Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their wealth [which they expend in obedience to Allah on things like jihad] in return for the Garden. They fight in the Way of Allah and they kill [(read as yaqtuluna wa yuqtaluna or as yuqtaluna wa yaqtuluna “are killed and kill”]) and are killed.”

    (Tafsir Al-Jalalayn, Jalalu’ D-Din Muhammad Ibn Ahmad Al-Mahalli and Jalalu’ D-Din as-Suyuti, Aisha Bewley’s Translation , Dar Al Taqwa Ltd. London, 2007. [Exegesis of text is that within brackets]9:111)

    In addition to the above, speaking to those who believe in Muhammad, revered Commentary on “Allah’s Book” and verses therein provide as follows:

    “O you who believe! Make not (a decision) in advance before Allah and His Messenger,” meaning, do not rush in making decisions before him, rather, follow his lead in all matters. Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, commented; “Make not (a decision) in advance before Allah and His Messenger,” [means], “Do not say anything that contradicts the Qur’an and the Sunnah.”

    (Tafsir, (Qur’anic Commentary) Ibn Kathir, on Surah 49: 1-3; Vol. 9, p. 185.)

    What’s more, “Allah’s Book” also tells us, “And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the disbelievers.’” (Surah 5:44.)

    Commenting on the just cited Qur’anic verse, revered Islamic scholar and maker of tafsir (Commentary on Qur’an), Ibn Kathir, in his Tafsir provides this comment on the above, credited as provided in at-Tabari 4:597, recorded by ibn Jarir, “ Who ever rejects what Allah has revealed, will have committed Kufr, and whoever accepts what Allah has revealed, but did not rule by it, is a Zalim (unjust) and a Fasiq (rebellious) and a sinner.”

    (TAFSIR IBN KATHIR [ABRIDGED], ABRIDGED BY A GROUP OF SCHOLARS UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF SHAYKH SAFIUR-RAHMAN AL-MUBARAKPURI, DARUSSALAM, Riyadh, Second Edition, 2003, Vol. 3 p. 187.)

    That means, if one claiming to be a Muslim honors our laws, and in so doing rejects anything of “what Allah has revealed,” he is no Muslim, he is an unbeliever.

    Moreover, speaking to judgement and actions of the “Prophet” every Muslim is commanded to follow, the Quran also states the following:

    “No, by your Lord, they are not believers until they make you their judge in the disputes that break out between them, and then find no resistance, (nor any doubt or constriction), within themselves to what you decide but submit themselves completely (and will obey your judgments without question).

    (An-Nisa 4:65, Tafsir Al-Jalalayn, Jalalu’ D-Din Muhammad Ibn Ahmad Al-Mahalli and Jalalu’ D-Din as-Suyuti, Aisha Bewley’s Translation , Dar Al Taqwa Ltd. London, 2007.)

    Bearing all the aforementioned and cited in mind, we regard, Sahih hadith tells us, Allah’s Messenger said, as follows:

    “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people till they testify that La ilaha illallah wa anna Muhammad-ar-Rasul-Allah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.)”

    (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Translated by: Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Darussalam, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 1997, Vol. 1, Book of Belief, p. 66, # 25.)

    To refuse to follow the example of the “prophet” of Islam is to reject him; to reject him is to reject Islam in its entirety.

    Speaking to the same Islamic precept, Tafsir al-Qurtubi provides, “…The Prophet, may Allah bless and grant him peace…, he said, ‘Take your practices from me.’”

    (Tafsir Al-Qurtubi, Classical Commentary of the Holy Qur’an, Translated by Aisha Bewley, Vol. I, Dar Al-Taqwa, Ltd. 2003; P.405.)

    Adding to the same, the Qur’an provides the following is “a notification, from God and His Messenger”; hear then that notification:

    “slay the idolaters wherever you find them, be it during a lawful [period] or a sacred [one], and take them, captive, and confine them, to castles and forts, until they have no choice except [being put to] death or [acceptance of] Islam; and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush, [at every] route that they use (kulla, ‘every’, is in the accusative because a [preceding] genitive-taking preposition has been removed). But if they repent, of unbelief, and establish prayer and pay the alms, then leave their way free, and do not interfere with them. God is Forgiving, Merciful, to those who repent. (Surah 9:5.)

    That is no trite notification, no trite command.

    Add to it, what ahadith further tells us, starting with this one:

    “….Allah’s Messenger said …“Why do some people impose conditions which are not present in Allah’s Book (laws)? Whoever imposes such a condition as is not in Allah’s Law, then the condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred conditions, for Allah’s Conditions are the Truth and the most reliable.”

    (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Translated Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Darussalam, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 1997, Vol. 3, Book of Sales [Bargains], p. 208, #2155.)

    Another hadith relates the same details, adding only this change:

    “Allah’s Messenger stood up in front of the people, and after glorifying Allah, he said, ‘Amma Ba ‘du (i.e., then after)! What about the people who impose conditions which are not in Allah’s Book (laws)? Any condition that is not in Allah’s Book (Laws) is invalid even if they were one hundred conditions, for Allah’s Decisions are the right ones and His Conditions are the strong ones….” (ibid, p. 212)

    We find the same hadith repeated in the Book of Al Mukatab (ibid, p. 423, 424, 425). So too, in the Book of Conditions: “Whoever stipulates such conditions as are not present in Allah’s Laws, then those conditions are invalid even if he stipulated a hundred conditions.”

    (ibid, p. 539, # 2735)

    That command to reject any law that contravenes Allah’s Law includes any of our laws that are in conflict with Allah’s Law–Allah’s Law which is Shariah.

    Ibn Umar transmitted it this way: “Any condition which is against Allah’s Laws, is invalid, even if one stipulates a hundred such conditions.” (ibid, p. 538.)

    Driving the same message home, slightly different angle, Book of Jihad provides this assertion and warning: “The Prophet said, ‘My livelihood is under the shade of my spear, and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya.” (ibid, Vol. 4, p. 108.)

    Be assured, “the prophet’s” orders are perfectly in line with Allah’s Laws.

    What’s more, clear as daylight, the above-cited command to “slay the isolators” hails straight from “Allah’s Book.” In other words, that notification from “God and his Messenger, trumps all other laws.

    Therefore, we clearly see, if one fails to follow the above cited “Allah and his Messenger’s” provided instruction and commands, they are no Muslims, they are apostates of the Islamic faith, because they reject the guidance, the instruction and commands of both Allah and “his messenger.”

    Therefore, only fools fail to regard, the “sacred texts” provide and substantiate, a Muslim is one who submits to Allah. Thus one who obeys Allah’s Messenger, Muhammad. Thus, is one who is merciless to non-Muslims. One who fights in the cause of Allah, kills and is killed—and if not cut out for killing, then he/she is one who funds, aids, and supports those who are, and does so, until the religion is only for Allah, and Islam, the supreme law of the land.

    • dlbrand says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 2:51 pm

      Indeed. Silence his voice, via whatever means necessary to meet that end.

      For that reason, on this issue of Islam and the problem it is; in the long line of present and former Candidates for the Presidency of our nation, at this moment, Carson alone has spoken candidly on Islam.

    • Chris says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 10:04 pm

      dlbrand,

      Who do you say that Christ is/was? Do you believe he was good or evil? I do not know for a fact, but I have heard Islam teaches Christ was not part God as described in the Bible, but he was a righteous prophet. Is that correct?

      Curious,

      Chris

      • dlbrand says

        Sep 22, 2015 at 2:02 am

        Chris, to your first question:

        1. you asked me, “dlbrand, Who do you say that Christ is/was?”

        Answer: I believe Jesus Christ was/is, when the man walked this earth, precisely who the Angelic choir proclaimed He was, precisely who He stated He was, precisely who the Apostle Paul states he was: The Son of the Highest, the Son of God, God robed in human flesh. As Ist Timothy 3:16, and elsewhere, states he was.

        I believe Jesus Christ was the express image of the invisible God, just as is asserted of Him in Hebrews 1:3 and in Colossians 1:15, “the firstborn of every creation.”

        2. “Do you believe he was good or evil?

        Answer: I believe, as is asserted of Him in II Corinthians 5: 19, that “God was in Christ, restoring the world to himself, no longer counting men’s sins against them but blotting them out.”

        For those who accept that offer of Grace, God in Christ, took the list of charges against us, destroyed it by “nailing it to the Cross,” as asserted in Colossians 2:14. (Living Bible Paraphrased, Tysdale 1973, Rendition.)

        And I am one most grateful to know the benefit of such “blotting out.” Mercy great, and Grace free. To state the least.

        3. You stated and asked, “I do not know for a fact, but I have heard Islam teaches Christ was not part God as described in the Bible, but he was a righteous prophet. Is that correct?

        Yes, that is precisely what Islam teaches of Jesus Christ.

        Calls him, repeatedly, the son of Mary. Provides accordingly, likewise repeated times, “Allah” asserting, he had no child, no daughters, no son.

        Presents thus Jesus as a prophet, but nothing more than that. And a prophet in “grade,” less than the final and most praised of prophets; and that most praised of prophets, which, according to Islam, is the one in Paradise granted the highest station of praise, by the throne of the Highest; which, according to Islam was/is Allah’s Messenger, Muhammad.

        And Muhammad, created before Adam.

        In brief.

        dl

    • Ralph says

      Sep 22, 2015 at 11:07 am

      For years details about Islam have flown under the radar. Until 9/11 that is .The 13 men who flew the planes were all, can you guess? Yes, they were all Muslim. Yes there is a lot of anger, however I believe it is righteous anger. The key to dealing with anger correctly is as the bible says “be angry, but in your anger do not sin”. I have nothing but loathing for this filthy, vile, hateful, religion called Islam. Its founder, and false “prophet” mohamed, was a pedophile, who took a 5 year old girl as his wife, and had sex with her. Muslims men regard women as property; the women trapped in this unholy religion are victims. The quran exhorts killing anyone who does not share the insane Islamic beliefs, and anyone who converts to another religion also is to be killed. The quran also encourages Muslim men to rape women and ,little girls(infidels) aren’t muslim, even stating that this will bring them closer to their false god allah. Any of you want to know allah better? In their defense though, they don’t eat pork, so I guess their cholesterol levels are healthy(sarcasm). Before anyone rushes to judgment on Ben Carson or Donald Trump, do a little research, muslims only have one quran and by its very nature it is RADICAL. Hateful, vile religion that treats women like things, and encourages rape and murder; Seriously, should be outlawed in America, where we are under US law, and the laws of God, not sharia law.

      The “Holy Quran” enjoin all Muslims to do one of three things to “Infidels” (non-Muslims): 1) convert them, 2) enslave them, or 3) kill them. The first of these seldom occurs in the hands of Muslim terrorists, as they regard non-Muslims as inferior beings, such as swine. The second is preferable to the first, especially when the victim is a young girl or woman. The third is preferable to the first and the second when the victim is a man. Per the Quran, the preferred method of killing non-Muslims is to “smite them at the neck” (behead them with a sword or long knife). And as we have witnessed in recent times, Muslim terrorists in the Mideast have crucified young Christian boys and burned men alive, to include a Jordanian Muslim pilot who was captured when his plane was downed. Coupled with the attack on 9/11/2001, these images have much to do with the reaction of Americans who are not Muslim whenever the subject raises its ugly head. The non-Muslims didn’t start this: the Muslims did! They have remained relentless in their pursuit of a Caliphate since the 7th century AD.

  14. underbed cat says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    CAIR wants people to read the koran and will hand out copies…..Robert Spencer do you think they have removed the verses calling for death of infidels….very tricky,stealthy and exactly what these organization are designed to do, you think….now that the writings go under examinatioin they want to hand out korans….yikes …..

    • john spielman says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      its not just the qur’an (the book of Satan). It is the hadiths of muhameed pbuh,* the demon possessed mass murderer thief liar false prophet and pedophile pervert, which also encourage the vile behavior of muslim fanatics in this cult of death darkenss and hell
      pbuh* PERPETUAL BANISHMENT UNTO HELL!

  15. pdxnag says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 1:05 pm

    Shouldn’t CAIR lose their current non-profit tax status?

    • john spielman says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 1:34 pm

      yes and also face treason charges against the United Sates for conspiracy to destroy our constitution by stealth jihad!

      • dlbrand says

        Sep 21, 2015 at 1:48 pm

        Indeed.

        • Noel Eliscu says

          Sep 21, 2015 at 1:53 pm

          Agree

    • Wellington says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 8:11 pm

      No. CAIR should still have its tax-exempt status because it is a religious organization. But what CAIR should not have is any respect whatsoever by the vast majority of the American people. It should be reviled widely and regularly while still “enjoying” its tax exempt status (of course if CAIR actually commits one or more felonies, as opposed to “merely” being obnoxious and in theory injurious to the American Republic, then nail its sorry ass to the wall, preferably beginning with Ibrahim Hooper who is a loathsome, mendacious, foolish and parasitic figure if ever there were one).

      Here’s the issue in a nutshell (and I write this as the lawyer that I am): A religion, even an egregious one like Satanism and Islam (am I comparing the Satanic religion to the Islamic religion?—–you bet I am for both are evil) should have tax exempt status. Trying to take away this status is an effort of the most peripheral nature and one that does no justice to the Constitution. Rather, the correct course of action to pursue is to identify malevolent religious ideologies, like Islam and Satanism, as fully worthy of tax-exempt status but also fully worthy of massive opprobrium by an informed populace who prize liberty above all. Yes, knowledge is power (and sadly even someone like Ted Cruz is deficient here considering his recent criticism of Dr. Carson).

      In short, the route to dealing with Islam (and its promoters like CAIR) does not lie in its prohibition but rather in its exposure. Freedom can tolerate ideologies which want to end freedom (e.g., Islam), but it is imperative that freedom identify such appalling ideologies correctly (as Thomas Jefferson in his Inaugural Address of 1801 pointed out with great clarity). Carson seemingly gets this. Cruz does not. The forever silly Senator Graham of course does not (no surprise here, eh?). Perhaps no one in the Republican field except Carson does. And, of course, not one person in the Democratic Party does, which party long ago assigned its collective consciousness to the twin rots which are political correctness and multiculturalism (pc/mc). Ditto for virtually all of the mainstream media—–and yes even Fox News, which is a shadow of what a news agency should be which is truly informed about the totalitarian ideology which is Islam——–none there at Fox News, not even Hannity or Kelly though these two do dimly “get things.”

      Dark times ahead. Very dark. Courtesy of Islam and ignorance of Islam. So all the more praise to Dr. Ben Carson, who is indeed a voice of reason crying out in the silly wilderness in which contemporary man now lives. May he have the courage of his convictions without any wavering. I for one dearly hope he does.

      • voegelinian says

        Sep 22, 2015 at 4:26 am

        Apparently, Wellington still quaintly thinks Muslims are not actively waging war against us and the rest of the free world through a combination of violent jihad and stealth jihad; for, if he did, his argument would make no sense.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 22, 2015 at 4:26 am

          “for, if he did” –> agree that they are in fact waging war against us etc.

        • Angemon says

          Sep 22, 2015 at 8:12 am

          voegelinian posted:

          “Apparently, Wellington still quaintly thinks Muslims are not actively waging war against us and the rest of the free world through a combination of violent jihad and stealth jihad; for, if he did, his argument would make no sense.”

          Apparently you still believe you can get away with making outrageous claims for which you have no basis or evidence for.

        • Western Canadian says

          Sep 24, 2015 at 7:48 pm

          And again, this idiot does his mind-reading act!! It would be a little more impressive if he actually gave any indication that he has one of his own….

      • Ralph says

        Sep 22, 2015 at 11:08 am

        For years details about Islam have flown under the radar. Until 9/11 that is .The 13 men who flew the planes were all, can you guess? Yes, they were all Muslim. Yes there is a lot of anger, however I believe it is righteous anger. The key to dealing with anger correctly is as the bible says “be angry, but in your anger do not sin”. I have nothing but loathing for this filthy, vile, hateful, religion called Islam. Its founder, and false “prophet” mohamed, was a pedophile, who took a 5 year old girl as his wife, and had sex with her. Muslims men regard women as property; the women trapped in this unholy religion are victims. The quran exhorts killing anyone who does not share the insane Islamic beliefs, and anyone who converts to another religion also is to be killed. The quran also encourages Muslim men to rape women and ,little girls(infidels) aren’t muslim, even stating that this will bring them closer to their false god allah. Any of you want to know allah better? In their defense though, they don’t eat pork, so I guess their cholesterol levels are healthy(sarcasm). Before anyone rushes to judgment on Ben Carson or Donald Trump, do a little research, muslims only have one quran and by its very nature it is RADICAL. Hateful, vile religion that treats women like things, and encourages rape and murder; Seriously, should be outlawed in America, where we are under US law, and the laws of God, not sharia law.

        The “Holy Quran” enjoin all Muslims to do one of three things to “Infidels” (non-Muslims): 1) convert them, 2) enslave them, or 3) kill them. The first of these seldom occurs in the hands of Muslim terrorists, as they regard non-Muslims as inferior beings, such as swine. The second is preferable to the first, especially when the victim is a young girl or woman. The third is preferable to the first and the second when the victim is a man. Per the Quran, the preferred method of killing non-Muslims is to “smite them at the neck” (behead them with a sword or long knife). And as we have witnessed in recent times, Muslim terrorists in the Mideast have crucified young Christian boys and burned men alive, to include a Jordanian Muslim pilot who was captured when his plane was downed. Coupled with the attack on 9/11/2001, these images have much to do with the reaction of Americans who are not Muslim whenever the subject raises its ugly head. The non-Muslims didn’t start this: the Muslims did! They have remained relentless in their pursuit of a Caliphate since the 7th century AD.

      • Western Canadian says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 2:20 pm

        “CAIR should still have its tax-exempt status because it is a religious organization.’

        Which of course does not mean or in anyway imply that they should be allowed to follow their hearts and commit murder, rape, slavery etc. or in anyway be allowed to declare war on the rest of the population…. Or do overthrow the government, or indulge in any form of sedition….

        Pity voeg can’t understand that. Or understand many, many other things.

  16. duh_swami says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    I don’t expect everyone to read Quran or study Islamic literature as have most of the regulars who post here, what I resent is to be lied to over and over by ego driven people who have never even cracked a book..They live in a pretend world where they pretend to know what they don’t know..
    Carson is right…Islam and the Constitution are not compatible, and elements of sharia are already against established US law…

  17. Art Telles says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by FrontPage Magazine.
    A question for Zuhdi Jasser…

    Robert, in the third paragraph from the end you have a quote by Salem Ben Ammar, which would be an excellent question for Sean Hannity to ask both Dr. Carson and Dr. Jasser tonight on his tv program.

    Dr. Carson and Dr. Jasser, do you agree with this sentiment expressed by Salem Ben Ammar?

    “‘To hell with democracy!
    Long live Islam!’
    One hundred percent of Muslims agree with that.
    To say anything else is apostasy from Islam.
    These two competing political systems are antithetical to each other.
    You can’t be democratic and be a Muslim or a Muslim and be a democrat.
    A Jew can’t be a Nazi and a Nazi can’t be a Judeophile.”

    As a Muslim, would Dr. Jasser say, no, he doesn’t agree? Would he say yes, definitely. Would he obfuscate?

    As a Christian, would Dr. Carson say no, he does not agree? Would he say yes, definitely?

    Would he add that that is exactly why a fundamentalist and moderate Muslims could not be depended on to defend the will of We the People as expressed in the language of the U.S. Constitution.

    It is either Islam and Sharia that is the supreme law of the Union, or it is the law of “We the People…more perfect Union” as expressed in the language of the Constitution that is supreme law of the Union.

    It cannot be both, and Dr. Carson would probably say that the constitution that expresses the will of We the People is the supreme law of the Union.

    Art
    U.S. Constitution: The Original Birther Document of the Union

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 22, 2015 at 4:30 am

      Jasser would of course obfuscate, in such a slimy way that many in the counter-jihad would blush and flutter their eyelashes at his “reform”-minded “moderation”.

      Carson would probably hedge his forthrightness out of political necessity. Frequently when I bring up the softness of supposed conservatives like Bush and Abbott, counter-jihad folks tell me, “Oh, they don’t really mean that — they’re just saying that for political reasons”, but I have my doubts about their argument. With Carson, however, I finally may have found someone who really would be doing that.

  18. Ian H says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    Also Islam advocates slavery. In the context of US history I would think that should be fairly significant.

  19. Dave J says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    Finally someone has opened the door to an honest assessment of Islam’s goals and methods, which up to now seemed to be verboten in this country. Good – let free speech and democracy out of the box of liberal delusions. I think the discussion will reveal the activities of CAIR to be blatantly supremacist and treasonous to American ideals. It will encourage the few who have been warning us and open up the eyes of many of the blind deniers and apologists.

  20. Janet Jeremy says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    Muslims can’t take ANY criticism BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE GUILTY OF CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. And they want to commit crimes against humanity and not get punished for it!

  21. somehistory says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    Dr. Carson should get in touch with Mr. Spencer and with Andrew McCarthy and learn all about cair and the infiltration they have already achieved in the government and what they intend.

    He needs support to keep his stand. Whether or not one runs for political office, the truth about islam and what it means to those who don’t wish to submit, that one needs all the information available.

    Since he now has a target on his back…from the media, cair, all other adherents of the beastly cult, and other politicians, Dr. Carson should have help from those who know what he is up against.

  22. Gene says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    This is why a Muslim should not be allowed to be president. From the US Constitution Art. II, sec. 1:

    Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

    How does a Muslim who supports sharia, the supremacy of Islam, Jihad, etc. keep that oath?

  23. keith says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    … Islam is the religion of rodents…

  24. R Cole says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    CAIR – Sharia Inc.

    That is the first thing I thought of is that the US Constitution guarantees free speech. And if there was a poll – there is no law that says Carson must vote for the Muslim guy.

    That Islam is not compatible with basic human rights and free democracy – is why you have the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights. It opposes many of the fundamental tenets of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    Like how the news media are telling everyone what to think about a religion – when it is that they signed an agreement swearing that they will say these things about Islam!!

    Stay tuned – the Islamic propaganda report ~ is up next!!

    ::

    ::

    Interesting – who uses the term ‘Islamophobia’ and for what.

    For example, Muslim nations with Parliaments are most keen on the use of the word. Pakistan – the blasphemy poster child – loves to point to the ‘problem’ of western ‘Islamophobia’. Jordan’s Queen Rania – ‘Islamophobia’ is her favorite subject – think she files her nails thinking about what she will say about Islamophobia in the west – on her next trip. Pakistan, a nation that issued 25 year sentence for being Christian and touching the Koran [blasphemy] – feels that the US should change its Constitution so that criticism of Islam could be punished.

    In the west you get the prominent Muslim groups such as CAIR – who almost OD on Islamophobia – such that ex-Muslims are on their top 10 most wanted Islamophobes in America. In Europe – a terrorist attack occurs – and the reporters are standing in the blood splatter of those slain – thumping on their mics. about the ills of Islomophobia – as the reason this all happened. And like Pakistan [and OIC] who so brazenly asked the US to change its Constitution – many prominent Muslim groups use so-called Islamophobia-anti-racism campaigns as cover to enforce sharia law.

    Such is the case with CAIR – where the Constitution protects freedom of speech – for CAIR questioning Islam – is against sharia – Islamic law being their highest priority.

    Most interesting – who you don’t hear bandying about the term Islamophobia is the so-called ‘hate’ preachers – translation – those who present Islam undiluted – in ifs most offensive form. The purpose of using terms like Islamophobia – to deny the real Islam had not occurred to them.

    The Left-wingers who use the term are often just clueless – forgive them they do not know what they do – kind of folks. [Just don’t let them change any laws..]

    The others are using it purely – to impose the sharia – through deceptive means. For example simply say, ex-Muslims are breaking with Islamic law for leaving Islam – rather than call them Islamophobes.

    So the need to match the sharia law broken – to the Islamophobia accusation – is a must.

    ::

    Islamic law holds non-Muslims to be inferior – so to speak to a Muslim on equal terms – where the tenets of Islam are challenged, openly questioned or exposed – in that the non-Muslim did not show deference – could be the very reason for the invention of the term “Islamophobia”.

  25. vcragain says

    Sep 22, 2015 at 5:37 am

    I am a liberal in my most basic beliefs – BUT – after watching the rise of Islam in the West for the past 40 years, I am now completely convinced this ‘faith’ is a danger to Western society – no doubt about it.
    So – altho not a Republican supporter politically, I think Ben Carson has brought to the forefront a very, very heavy point regarding what we should be paying attention to for the safety of freedom in the West. This religion (Islam) does not believe you or I have the right to decide anything in our lives so why would we allow it to become our overlord ?? We need to put down the Islamaphobia label and start being practical – NOW I understand why some people are already wanting to draw up anti-Sharia laws. Not such a silly idea at all. We will need to guard against the control and thereby change of Western Democracy via stealth because that is what we are facing. I am the first person to say this is crazy talk – yes it is – but that is where we are ! All the little quiet, loving, caring Muslims who can’t see what their monster belief system is doing must stand up and fight this, if they can – but I do NOT hear those screams of outrage at the extremists – THAT is why people like me are changing their views !!

  26. Ralph says

    Sep 22, 2015 at 11:10 am

    For years details about Islam have flown under the radar. Until 9/11 that is .The 13 men who flew the planes were all, can you guess? Yes, they were all Muslim. Yes there is a lot of anger, however I believe it is righteous anger. The key to dealing with anger correctly is as the bible says “be angry, but in your anger do not sin”. I have nothing but loathing for this filthy, vile, hateful, religion called Islam. Its founder, and false “prophet” mohamed, was a pedophile, who took a 5 year old girl as his wife, and had sex with her. Muslims men regard women as property; the women trapped in this unholy religion are victims. The quran exhorts killing anyone who does not share the insane Islamic beliefs, and anyone who converts to another religion also is to be killed. The quran also encourages Muslim men to rape women and ,little girls(infidels) aren’t muslim, even stating that this will bring them closer to their false god allah. Any of you want to know allah better? In their defense though, they don’t eat pork, so I guess their cholesterol levels are healthy(sarcasm). Before anyone rushes to judgment on Ben Carson or Donald Trump, do a little research, muslims only have one quran and by its very nature it is RADICAL. Hateful, vile religion that treats women like things, and encourages rape and murder; Seriously, should be outlawed in America, where we are under US law, and the laws of God, not sharia law.

    The “Holy Quran” enjoin all Muslims to do one of three things to “Infidels” (non-Muslims): 1) convert them, 2) enslave them, or 3) kill them. The first of these seldom occurs in the hands of Muslim terrorists, as they regard non-Muslims as inferior beings, such as swine. The second is preferable to the first, especially when the victim is a young girl or woman. The third is preferable to the first and the second when the victim is a man. Per the Quran, the preferred method of killing non-Muslims is to “smite them at the neck” (behead them with a sword or long knife). And as we have witnessed in recent times, Muslim terrorists in the Mideast have crucified young Christian boys and burned men alive, to include a Jordanian Muslim pilot who was captured when his plane was downed. Coupled with the attack on 9/11/2001, these images have much to do with the reaction of Americans who are not Muslim whenever the subject raises its ugly head. The non-Muslims didn’t start this: the Muslims did! They have remained relentless in their pursuit of a Caliphate since the 7th century AD.

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