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Robert Spencer, PJM: Relax: The UK government is fighting “all forms of extremism”

Sep 3, 2015 1:59 pm By Robert Spencer

Over at PJ Media I discuss the latest lunacy from the lunatic London government:

Theresa May

British Home Secretary Theresa May announced last week:

[I]n the not-too-distant future we will be launching an anti-extremism, counter-extremism strategy as a Government. That will be looking across the board at all forms of extremism — yes, Islamist extremism, but also neo-Nazi extremism.

Is Dr. Strangelove patrolling the British countryside in his wheelchair? Has Oswald Mosley mysteriously reappeared and begun ranting on the BBC?

Do the handful of skinheads, convicts, and other idiots with swastikas on their necks sieg-heiling around the fringes of British society really constitute a threat equivalent to that of the international jihad? Hardly. And Theresa May certainly knows it.

She not only knows there is a global threat from Islamic jihadists, she also can’t help but be aware of the fact that there is a very severe and imminent jihad threat within Britain itself. To equate this with a minuscule threat from a handful of neo-Nazi nutjobs (who should of course be combated in any case, however much she exaggerates the threat they pose) shows how deeply May and the entire Conservative government of David Cameron are beholden to Islamic supremacists who will pillory the government as “racist,” “bigoted,” and “Islamophobic” if it speaks too forthrightly and honestly about the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat.

The enlightened and multicultural home secretary is not, of course, speaking just about real neo-Nazis. She also almost certainly is lumping in with neo-Nazis the opponents of jihad terror that she and her government consider to be “right wing.”

In doing this, she has behind her a series of libels from groups such as the far-Left Hope not Hate, and the Marxist, Palestinian jihad-supporting One Law for All to abet this mischaracterization. Both groups, and others like them, have labored for years to brand those who dissent from their far-Left, anti-Israel stances as “right-wing extremists.”

In taking up these tendentious smears and giving them the imprimatur of the British government, May and her cohorts have ruled all honest discussion about how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and supremacism as being unacceptable discourse. In place of that honest discussion, the government has instituted the prevailing fantasies about how Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” and groups such as the Islamic State are not Islamic.

She is, in other words, smearing an honest and realistic response to the jihad threat as “neo-Nazi,” and is enforcing falsehoods about “Islamist extremism” that will hamstring, and ultimately doom to failure, her government’s attempts to combat it.

The same thing is happening in Obama’s America. The administration has published several statements and reports about the threat from “right-wing extremists” while consistently denying the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat. He even did so last Wednesday, after a gay, black man murdered two white journalists in a rage over injustices he believed he had suffered. Obama said:

What we know is that the number of people who die from gun-related incidents around this country dwarfs any deaths that happen through terrorism.

Just as with the recent “study” that purported to show that “right-wing extremists” were more of a threat than Islamic jihadists, in saying this Obama is probably leaving out the deaths from 9/11. And if even a fraction of the foiled jihad plots had come to fruition, this would be an even more risible claim than it is.

But this is the opinion of the powerful elites in both America and Britain today, and in both countries, innocent people are going to suffer as a result. Innocents will be unjustly tarred as “right-wing extremists,” and will be susceptible to the incomplete, faulty response to the very real jihad threat that the American and British governments would rather wish away than confront….

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  1. Me says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    Oh, but I do think she’s serious Robert – just look at that squint of determination. I think she’s gonna be a real x-factor in battling Islam in GB. Ok, I’m completely kidding. Just more of the same game – don’t talk about the elephant (or at least not directly). I’ve just added her to my list of people to loathe. Goodness, I’m running out of paper.

    • Shane says

      Sep 4, 2015 at 3:41 pm

      Liberals in North America and Europe are more afraid of conservative Christians who oppose gay marriage and abortion than they are of murderous Muslims who are killing and raping in the name of Allah. They are just freaking nuts!

  2. Jaladhi says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    And which form of extremism is on a murderous rampage throughout the world!! Islam – no, nothing to see here, keep moving past the Islamic extremism. Oops, that is not extremism – that is regular day to day Islam, and therefore it is not extremism and will not be scrutinized! These people, Theresa May & Co. are first rate morons – when Muslims are starting fire, they run to Christian quarters to catch the pyromaniacs! Do they have even a fraction of once of brain left in them??

  3. ECAW says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    Here is a dissenting view on what constitutes Islamic extremism. Is it right or wrong?:

    “The standard view of moderates and extremists has various groupings spread along a spectrum. Moderates are closest to Mohammed and extremists are naturally at the extremes, furthest from Mohammed:

    Mohammed…..Moderate………………….Muslim……………………………….ISIS
    …………………Muslims……………………Brotherhood

    But isn’t the spectrum wrong? Shouldn’t it be transposed with the people we call extremists actually closest to the centre of Islam, the example of Mohammed? That is why they should be called centrists rather than extremists:

    Mohammed…..ISIS…..Muslim……………………Just…………………….Nominal
    …………………………Brotherhood……………..Muslims………………..Muslims

    Closest to Mohammed are of course ISIS. There is nothing they do which was not done by Mohammed and his companions. Next along are the Muslim Brotherhood type groups, sometimes called “moderate Islamists”, still doing their bit to bring the world under Islam by stealth.

    At the furthest extreme from Mohammed, therefore the real extremists, are those we call nominal Muslims. Mohammed had a word for those who don’t answer the call, hypocrites, and a special place in hell for them.

    But where have the moderate Muslims gone? Muslims regularly tell us there are no such people, just Muslims so they have been replaced by “Just Muslims”. Are they our enemy? There is just no telling for sure, but there is a guiding principle. The more devout a Muslim is, the closer to Mohammed, the more potentially dangerous he is. How often have we heard after some atrocity that the perpetrator became increasingly devout in the preceding months?”

    • Me says

      Sep 3, 2015 at 2:54 pm

      Yes, correct ECAW! This has been Robert’s grand assertion all along – that “extremists”, by modern definition, are those most perfectly reflecting of Islamic code and creed (Koran, hadiths, sura)!

      Moderate shmoderate, imho. Moderate Muslim is oxymoronic. “Moderates” are Muslims who have not yet had cause or circumstance to wage some level of jihad. All others are merely nominal or apostate to Islam.

    • Me says

      Sep 3, 2015 at 3:08 pm

      Here’s a cozy little anecdotal to underline my previous response to ECAW: A friend in the Midwest encountered a hijab at the grocery and asked her what she bought about the beheadings. Here in bible-belt USA, this raghead answered cooly, “Well, it’s in the Koran”.

      In this same Midwest (small) city, a mosque is to be constructed, so that more of this ilk can implant and extend roots.

      At this point, a discussion of whether any Muslims are “moderate” is moot and irrelevant, because if even just 10% are of the head-lopping variety or direct supporters of such, there are 120m head loppers from which to selectively hajith to the States, in little cozy Bible towns. Yep, backyard USA.

      Thusly, the discussion of “moderate” Islam is only a red herring – an ally to the obfuscating, PC double-speak used by our politicos and social drivers. It’s akin to using “Islamophobe” to quiet the opposition which readily obeys the Laws of Tolerance.

      We are in big trouble, and those who have hijacked the dialectical language have been far more effective than the few bold enough to shout the truth. Boiling frogs, we are.

  4. Marty says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    The number of neo Nazis in the UK are about 200. or, if you count
    mohammedans, 4.5 million.
    If this lady is pretending to be even handed to appease the BBC, so be it.
    I trust she has the intelligence to know that islam starts where Nazism
    stopped (at least publicly).
    The Nazis got elected, amongst other genuine grievances, because of false allegations about Jews. They would have got nowhere if they guaranteed gas chambers if elected.
    Islam starts with the gas chambers for Jews & much the same for Christians HIndus, gays, apostates & unlike the (dishonest) Nazis revels in slavery.
    Any black who converts to islam is a moron, since the muslims were & are the supreme slave wholesalers.

  5. Peter says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    Fighting all forms of extremism except its own extreme stupidity.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Sep 3, 2015 at 7:22 pm

      Good one Peter! I’ll have to write that down!

  6. Don McKellar says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    What a bunch of compromised, corrupt screwheads running the UK government right now!

  7. Angemon says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    Is Dr. Strangelove patrolling the British countryside in his wheelchair? Has Oswald Mosley mysteriously reappeared and begun ranting on the BBC?

    Well, Churchill’s out of the question – we know what happened to Paul Weston for quoting him on the street in broad daylight…

  8. mortimer says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 5:02 pm

    They want to target Islamic terror, but they’re pretending the other groups are genuine problems, when everyone knows they’re not. Even the UK terror supporters realize no Nazis are going after them and they aren’t afraid of them, even if they pretend to be.

  9. DRHazard says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    You already know how this anti-extremism “strategy” is going to work out. Since they are starting with the assumption that Muslim extremism has nothing to do with Islam they will find all sorts of causes that don’t exist. Then they will attempt to correct those causes, which will fail since they are out-of-sync with reality. They will apologize to Muslims (but not the other extremists) the whole way and keep on redirecting attention to the relatively trivial non-Muslim extremists. Muslim extremism will continue growing along with the denial of it. UK taxpayers will be poorer and less secure.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Sep 3, 2015 at 7:23 pm

      Rinse and repeat.

  10. mortimer says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    The Left in UK has managed to make it inacceptable to be British or English. Celebrating the British culture and accomplishments is now considered ‘racist’, although you can celebrate any other culture as long as it isn’t English.

    • Baucent says

      Sep 4, 2015 at 4:27 am

      Completely true Mortimer. Just flying a “English” flag with the Cross of St. George is deemed a provocative act.

  11. kay says

    Sep 3, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    Re ” (1) May and her cohorts have ruled all honest discussion about how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and supremacism as being unacceptable discourse. In place of that honest discussion, (2) the government has instituted the prevailing fantasies about how Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” and groups such as the Islamic State are not Islamic.
    She is, in other words, (3) smearing an honest and realistic response to the jihad threat as “neo-Nazi…”

    Three big points to Robert Spencer.
    Paul Weston and Winston Churchill are now anti-social extremist bad guys in…Great Britain.
    But the Pak sociopaths who brutalized young girls in Rotherham and Oxforshire for YEARS had a good long run. Actual victims were pushed aside when making complaints to the authorities. The story is completely shocking and very well documented. And actual convictions were handed down so it was not just crying wolf.

    Much social damage has been done. And we can reasonably expect Theresa May et. al. to push for a negative and dysfunctional approach which breaks reasonable, sane, NECESSARY discourse. In favor of ignoring the growing problem of social conflict. In favor of BEING the problem and thereby generating MORE and very difficult social conflict.

    The general populace of Great Britain are the primary stakeholders in all this. The Brit government is there to serve and protect mainly society overall, and do so fairly. Not to cave in or grovel before some relatively small group of sociopaths and religious fanatics who basically want to bring down the social order over time in the name of a foreign and bloodthirsty doctrine. No one is below the law, and no one is above criticism.

    Facts and evidence and quotations from the enemy doctrine are nothing like anti-social “hate speech”. Hate speech is only targeting specific persons. Not targeting a doctrine. Arguing theology and criticizing religious beliefs is fundamental to religious freedom and it has been ongoing for centuries. People have the right to read and discuss Andrew Bostom’s major and important books on Sharia and jihad. Otherwise they are blindfolded and led to their doom.

    For what good and reasonable cause would theological criticism become criminalized now? In direct support of cultural jihad against western civilization? The foreign enemy is NOT a stakeholder. Sharia has 700 million supporters. Defense of free thought, nonviolent free speech and peaceful free assembly is not Nazism. These are the opposite of coercion. Instead they are the basis of civilization and therefore not negotiable. Anyway, Islam has totally sucked for 14 centuries. In all aspects. As theology it is nonsensical and antisocial. That’s my professional opinion, and Bostom backs that up.

    Shame and more shame. Free the Brits. Give them “Earl Grey & Bostom tea parties.”

  12. Baucent says

    Sep 4, 2015 at 4:39 am

    Here’s a couple of alternatives of what’s going on; If they announce that the risk is from Islamic Extremists, and they are the ones they will target, the “left” and the muslim community will howl “racism” and “profiling”. So May, knowing Islamic Extremists (more correctly, Good Muslims) are the real target adds this mythical group called “Right Wing Extremists”. Now she can say we are taking an even handed approach.
    That scenario paints May in the best light. Because the alternative is more worrying. It is that the “Political Classes” knowing the UK is a tinderbox that could explode, has decided the only way to crush outspoken criticism of the rising Islamic presence is to brand all naysayers are “Right wing extremists”, then they can be neutralised and community cohesion is saved.
    I fear this second option is the real plan.

    • kay says

      Sep 4, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      Right. To be sure. But how long can that work? A few months? Not for very long.
      It’s not a solution which smooths out or actually handles any problem. That’s just bollocks. This fiat only causes more problems down the road.
      You can’t keep boxing people into a smaller and smaller corner. Especially not more and more people.

      If you repeatedly move in on a lion, the lion will repeatedly withdraw.
      But when a lion is getting backed up against a wall, it will instead move forward.
      I’m wondering where the lions are.

      Theresa May no doubt thinks she is buying some peace and that she looks even-handed and on top of the situation. She couldn’t be more wrong. The more people are visibly oppressed the more trouble she buys. Big trouble. This will backfire. Then the political class will be seen as the enemy of the people. On a most serious issue.

      Don’t the Brits have a saying like “Penny wise, pound foolish” ? I think that really applies here. May is not buying peace. She is buying more serious problems.

  13. Linda Rivera says

    Sep 4, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    British ruling elites believe that HATING WHITE CHRISTIANS is a good thing. And that white Christians in terrible danger of mass genocide by blacks in South Africa, should not be allowed into Britain and Europe because they are white and Christian.

    The black president of South Africa, addresses a crowd of tens of thousands and calls for the murder of about 10 percent of his constituents (WHITES). Among the audience, uniformed members of the military dance.

    Jacob Zuma sings the Cabinet will shoot the Boer with machine guns at ANC Centenery Celebrations RSA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NVkRmBTB7k

    Our evil leaders must be made to take in severely persecuted white Christians in terrible danger of mass genocide in South Africa, instead of taking in hundreds of thousands of Muslims who are NOT persecuted, every year.

    SIGN PETITION! https://www.change.org/p/european-commission-allow-all-white-south-africans-the-right-to-return-to-europe

  14. Plutarchus7 says

    Sep 5, 2015 at 11:14 am

    BY “ALL FORMS OF EXTREMISM”

    they also mean extreme weather events caused by the worse form of terrorism: global warming.

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