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UK Defence Secretary: “Harder by the day” to stop jihad terror attacks

Sep 23, 2015 12:49 am By Robert Spencer

Of course it’s harder by the day to protect Britons from jihad terror attacks. It’s harder because the British government is anxiously pandering to Islamic supremacist and pro-jihad Leftist groups, instead of facing realistically the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat. It’s harder by the day because the British government is paralyzed by fear and in full appeasement mode. This only emboldens the jihadis that British officials should be combating, rather than accommodating.

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“‘Harder by the day to protect Britain from terror attacks’ says Defence Secretary,” by John Ingham, Express, September 22, 2015 (thanks to Lookmann):

PROTECTING Britons from terror attacks is “becoming harder by the day”, Defence Secretary Michael Fallon warned yesterday.

Intelligence experts have also warned that the Islamic terror threat is yet to peak.

Mr Fallon told a London think-tank the slaughter of 38 tourists, including 30 Britons, on a beach in Tunisia in June shows how difficult it is to defend “our people”.

And he warned that terrorists and other states are “catching up” with Britain, whose technological edge on the battlefield is being eroded.

Mr Fallon told the Royal United Services Institute the upsurge in terrorist activity is making it tougher for the Government to carry out its first duty – protecting the public.

He said: “The first thing to say is that our number one priority will always remain the protection of our people.

“Yet, as the savage murders on a Tunisian beach demonstrate, that task is becoming harder by the day.”

He said that with every homegrown jihadist “battle-hardened in Syria” returning to Britain, the risks increase.

Mr Fallon said: “Last week the head of MI5, Andrew Parker, said Britain is facing an ‘unprecedented and growing terror threat’ with 15 attacks foiled worldwide and six in this country this year alone… with the number of terror plots the highest since 9/11.

“That’s why we have already ringfenced counter-terrorism spending.”

Yesterday senior security source said of the terror threat: “We do not believe we have reached the high-tide mark yet. We think there’s still more to come.”

Latest official figures show a record 299 arrests for terrorism-related offences in the year to March 31, a 31 per cent increase on the previous year and the highest since records began after the 9/11 attacks.

More than 700 Britons have flocked to Iraq and Syria to become jihadists, mainly with Islamic State.

About 70 have been killed in the Middle East while around 350 have returned home and could pose a threat.

But security sources say there is a also a threat from jihadists in Syria using the internet to incite attacks here by Britons….

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  1. mortimer says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:02 am

    British politicians, police and security agents are not allowed to learn or acknowledge the authentic JIHAD DOCTRINE of classical Islam. (This includes all Western countries with the exception of only 3 or 4 which are still in touch with reality!)

    Because of this denial, there is no way to recognize jihad or find jihad or to educate the public about jihad. In an atmosphere of theater of the ABSURD, we are told repeatedly things we easily see are false…such as the ‘religion of peace’ disinformation.

    ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF JIHAD…not ‘peace’.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 1:09 am

      The LACK of both a bold plan to interdict jihadists by the British security and the LACK of a curriculum and training to deprogram Muslims out of Islam ONLY EMBOLDEN the terrorists to more and greater acts of violence, conspiracy and terror.

      The British intelligence and all intelligence agencies need urgently to devise a curriculum to deprogram these DEATH CULTISTS and make Islam intellectually indefensible and morally insupportable.

      • roger Woodhouse says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 5:50 am

        So true.While our appeasing gutless government fails to acknowledge that Islam is the real problem and insists on trying to accommodate it the threat grows daily to the point that very soon innocent Brits will die on our streets.Even then the truth will be denied..Civil war is inevitable now thanks to these appeasers

      • jayellj says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 6:29 am

        The British authorities were publicly warned about all this at least 10 years ago. What did they do? Try to shut the whistle-blowers up. If they actually took any steps to counter this threat they chickened out, as with the security cameras in a midlands ‘enriched’ neighbourhood that they took down (with grovelling apologies) when the muslim ‘enrichers’ concerned started their usual self-righteous whinging. And why did they start their ‘usual self-righteous whinging’? Because they were guilty as hell, THEY knew it and they knew that the authorities knew it as well, and they would do anything to stop the cat getting out of the bag. Which it now has.

        So what’s happening? The ‘Carry On Gang’ (aka the British Authorities – yes, Don McKellar, you’ve got that dead right – they’re a comedy act) are wasting £millions of MY TAX MONEY on extra security trying to keep the UK a decent, safe and civilised place for me and my kind to live in (yes, it is supposed to be my home, believe it or not! – my extended family going back generations actually built the place!) whilst they waste even more £millions of my tax money in trying to educate a snowballing number of spurious ‘British Citizens’ (who are only here for the facilities anyway) in the niceties of existing in a civilised Western democracy either through the proper Education Service or (increasingly) through the Prison service; and when all that is clearly failing miserably, spending even more of my tax money trying to con us all through the controlled media (especially the BBC!) that all these lovely people, with their beautiful, peaceful ideology, are a glowing, irreplaceable assett not only to us but the entire cosmos. And this despite the fact that all available evidence would convince even an intellectually impaired prehensile mammal to the contrary. What’s the word for all this?
        P A T H E T I C !!!!!!

      • TH says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 10:56 am

        Deprogramming jihadis is simply impossible and the attempt a waste of money and energy. Those who are not citizens and are illegal should be deported forth with. All mosques should be investigated and Imans who promote terrorism, which actually means teaching what Islam teaches, financing of mosque building by Saudi Arabia should be banned etc.The law should be applied to muslims like verybody else. Ghettoes should be dismantled, even it that means sending in the army and tanks. Life should be made more and more difficult for muslims who are not willling to integrate and money should be offered to those who are citizens and who would be wiling to return to their muslim hellholes. etc.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 25, 2015 at 2:45 pm

        Mortimer–with all respect–I know you have talked here frequently about how we have to “deprogram” Jihadists.

        But this would be no different from “deprogramming” ordinary Muslims–they all adhere to the same vicious creed.

        Why would any pious Muslim listen to the “filthy Kuffar”?

        There are ways to defend ourselves against JIhad and Shari’ah–but I don’t believe it involves convincing JIhadists that they have misinterpreted things.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 4:47 am

      Boston police missed the signs, even though “it looked like something out of Al Qaeda”: they had no training. The result? The Marathon Bombing.
      “A Triple Unsolved Murder: Unconnected dots”
      http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/5778-a-triple-unsolved-murder-unconnected-dots

    • Lia Wissing says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 5:20 am

      Mr Fallon, Sir, listen to your jihadis: worse is to come. Get Mrs May to start deporting them, starting with Anjem Choudary. Stop paying them to terrorise yourself & your people.

      • fudge says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 6:40 am

        i wish the british government would stop bringing Islam refugees in and make the religion illegal also send them all back, in my little town of Wigan, there is people on the streets protesting but it never reaches the news on television.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 23, 2015 at 9:09 pm

          This is all I could find on the subject, fudge–and it sounds pretty slanted against the protesters:

          “Arrest made at National Front rally in Wigan town centre”

          http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/arrest-made-national-front-rally-10092714

          I’d love to hear more about what really happened.

    • JOHN SPIELMAN says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 7:14 am

      the solution is simple STRIP CITIZENSHIP FROM, and DEPORT ALL JIHADISTS after a court approves that the evidence is convicting

      • pdxnag says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 1:17 pm

        I believe that all Muslims are not citizens of any free state because they choose exclusive loyalty to the worldwide Islamic Ummah for which they have the capital punishment for apostasy/treason for any disloyalty. That is, to chose Islam is to voluntarily relinquish and reject citizenship in any free state. We need only acknowledge such choice to expel them all.

        • David says

          Sep 23, 2015 at 3:02 pm

          One day, millions of muslims will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.

          Houari Boumedienne, president of Alegeria at the United Nations in 1974

          “Ultimately, we (Muslims) can never be full citizens of this country…because thee is no way we can be fully committed tot he institutions and ideologies of this country.” -Ihsan Bagby, -CAIR

          “If we are practicing muslims, we are above the law of the land.” -Musfafa Carroll, Cair TX

      • voegelinian says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 3:12 pm

        That would not be a “solution”, it would be one way to try to manage it; but it would likely only make matters worse among the remaining vast majority of Muslim residents in the UK, exacerbating more and more civil unrest, crime, and taqiyya among them. If a Western polity has a long-range strategy in mind, whereby they actually want to exacerbate the problem so that they can take stiffer measures (such as total deportation) later, that might be doable, but at a volatile, unpredictable cost. But, I suppose the West will continue to react, rather than proact to this metastasizing problem. It would be nice if the Counter-Jihad — that still small nucleus of canaries-in-the-coalmine spearhead of the West pushing the envelope toward thinking outside the PC MC Box — would try to push the meme of total deportation; but apparently most of its members are on this issue indistinguishable from the PC MC Mainstream.

        • Angemon says

          Sep 23, 2015 at 5:37 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “It would be nice if the Counter-Jihad — that still small nucleus of canaries-in-the-coalmine spearhead of the West pushing the envelope toward thinking outside the PC MC Box — would try to push the meme of total deportation”

          Do you have a plan for that or are you just one of those “I have an idea but I’ll let others worry about all the details and steps required” people? If you are one of those people, I already called dibs on personal jetpacks.

          Also, this “total deportation meme” of yours – is it up for discussion on the open marketplace of ideas so uninterested third parties can see for themselves it it stands on its own or is anyone with a different opinion to be bullied into silence, labeled as “softy”, lied about, etc. -a “good old-fashioned public shaming”?

      • Georg says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 7:04 pm

        It’s total madness. How any of these politicians can live with themselves knowing the extreme peril they’re putting their constituents into is unfathomable for a normal, empathetic person. They can look in the eyes of the family members of someone slaughtered via Islamic jihad and eat supper that night? Nobody is there for the people any longer, save for the occasional “far-right” individual shunned from the Political and Media Class. The people will have to be there for the people. We are out of options.

    • Marty says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 9:29 am

      In the UK we have private (often foreign funded) & state funded “faith”
      schools.
      The mohammedan ones teach hatred of the (unwilling) host nation &
      as a result we are producing home grown misfits & terrorists at taxpayers’
      expense, never mind the immigrant ones.
      That modern politics is way beyond satire & parody is best summed
      up by this headline

      “Saudis Behead 87 In 2014, Head UN Human Rights Panel In 2015”

      • Shmooviyet says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 12:56 pm

        Sounds as if it was taken from ‘The Onion’.
        What is the expectation when allowing “battle-hardened jihadis” BACK into our Western countries?? That they’ve–hopefully– worked the HATE out of their systems, or have outgrown the jihad/islamic fad and will settle into a peaceful existence of respecting others, working a job and paying taxes, and assimilation?
        Good Lord.

    • Tbone says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 am

      Well dummies just keep importing muslims and cowtowing to there sharia b.s. it will surely achieve the desired results,theirs!

    • Shane says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 10:42 am

      Islam is also the religion of misogyny and is patriarchal which means feminists should oppose Muslim immigration, but many of them don’t. There is a rape jihad in many European cities, and Obama and Democrats are determined to bring it to the USA.

      Muslim Rape Gangs in Britain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD0YEtuacUk Islamic Rape Wave in Norway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoiCYwoJKrE
      Sweden Is Gone, Sweden Is Finished: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhstVDWsetM

  2. Don McKellar says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:03 am

    Here’s another thing that gets harder by the day the Carry On Gang running the UK: trying to justify the banning of Robert Spencer, one of the world’s leading experts in explaining the whys and whats and even whens of jihad terror attacks, from even entering the UK.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 1:10 am

      EXCELLENT!

      Carry on denying the jihad doctrine!

    • ECAW says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 9:54 am

      It’s time for a comeback. Next film – “Carry On Appeasing”.

      • ECAW says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 11:33 am

        For the culturally deprived among us, here is bit from Carry on up the Khyber. Imagine David Cameron as Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond, Theresa May as his wife and Anjem Choudhry as the Khazi of Calibar:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8atKXFZefA

        (translation – randy = horny, khazi = toilet, plastered = drunk)

  3. Concerned Citizen says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:08 am

    Why don’t they just not accept them back into the UK? Their passports should be taken from them immediately!!

    • Linda Rivera says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 4:16 pm

      UK ruling elites ADORE Muslim terrorists. Why else would they let them back in? We can be sure the savages will return to receiving full benefits and social housing

      • Concerned Citizen says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm

        That’s ashame! What is going on? How would they benefit from having extremists submitting them to Allah and becoming a muslim?? It’s their necks too!! It just doesn’t make sense!!

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 25, 2015 at 2:53 pm

        I don’t believe British authorities adore Muslim terrorists–instead, they want to believe that Muslims in general, and even those returning from JIhad, are not a threat.

        Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt…

        • Angemon says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 2:58 pm

          I suspect no politician/police officer wants to have his/her image in the front page of the tabloids with the caption “the face of islamophobia in the UK”, so they try to go about it by beating around the bush and looking the other way, hoping that if/when s*** hit the fan someone else will be at the helm.

  4. Judi says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:44 am

    And in the next breath they are discussing how many thousands more terrorists they are importing.p

    • gungadin says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 8:52 am

      I’m here in the states; New Jerseyto be exact. I see are “prsident” aka MUSLIM in chief –opening up the borders to let more and more of these “creatures” into America. Already all throughout urban NJ cities we have mosques. They are being built at a rate that it seems to quick to count….Our politicians on this side of the pond say “It will be difficult to vet any new immigrants” . I suggest they should close the borders at a minimum and keep them closed for at least 5 years. If we MUST let them in, send them all to some distant state where they can be monitored…….Hell if we rounded up American citizens that were Japanese and put them in camps for the duration of WW2, why the hell cant we do the same to foreigners who come into our shores?

  5. dsinc says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:53 am

    But security sources say there is a also a threat from jihadists in Syria using the internet to incite attacks here by Britons….

    Britons? Surely they mean Muslims in Britain?

    • jayell says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 5:47 am

      AbsolUtely! The only people calling these specimens ‘Britons’ are the controlled media idiots. Nobody else. The specimens themselves have said that they don’t consider themselves ‘Britons’.

  6. Charli Main says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 2:46 am

    What is the best way to fight Jihadists??? Why, just keep bringing in tens of millions of more Muslims into the country. Everyone knows that the best way to fight a fire is to throw petrol on it–right ????

    • Lookmann says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 9:12 am

      @ Charlie Main

      You seem to be afflicted with ‘ Satirosis’ a condition in which the person is endowed ability to tell the most difficult things in a humourous way.

      • Lookmann says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 9:15 am

        Typo :

        ” person is endowed ability ”

        Ii should read ” person is endowed with ability ”

        • Charli Main says

          Sep 23, 2015 at 11:00 am

          Don´t you think that, that is one of the defining, characteristic features, that distinguishes people like us, from Muslims ???
          There is no joy or humour in Islam, only perpetual misery.

  7. Johnd says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 4:43 am

    Tackling jihadis reminds me of the ‘Aliens2’ movie. You have to get to the nest or womb of the Alien menace. But uncomfortably for the West, that nest of spores is the Koran, hadith, and Sira literature and the mosques they are spread from, so its they that should be exterminated from the West.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 10:10 am

      The Islamic literature cannot be eliminated. It must be discredited by scholars with a very determined effort supported by governments.

      • jayell says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 am

        That term ‘islamic literature’ really does sound odd when you realise that the founder of this great pacifist philosophy was illiterate.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 9:25 pm

      Actually, more Infidels should be reading the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sira–no way to better understand the Jihad threat.

      • ECAW says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 2:35 am

        This is not for Gravenimage and the other regulars here who are all well versed in these things. But for newcomers and casual visitors here are:

        A chronologically ordered version of the Koran with the good bits highlighted to save you months of hacking your way through the undergrowth:

        http://www.koran-at-a-glance.com

        and a taster of the Sira with a link to a fuller (but still abridged) version:

        https://ecawblog.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/ibn-ishaq/

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 3:00 pm

          Great stuff, ECAW–thank you.

          Another fine resource is Robert Spencer’s “Blogging the Qur’an”:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/quran-commentary

  8. Angemon says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 6:36 am

    Mr Fallon told a London think-tank the slaughter of 38 tourists, including 30 Britons, on a beach in Tunisia in June shows how difficult it is to defend “our people”.

    I know they’re expected to protect their citizens, but isn’t the attack in Tunisia the one they’re least responsible for? You knew, because unlike 7/7 and the murder of Lee Rigby (not to mention the muslim rape gangs epidemic) it was planned and executed abroad by foreigners.

    He said that with every homegrown jihadist “battle-hardened in Syria” returning to Britain, the risks increase.

    Huh, why are they allowed to return in the first place?

    • jayell says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 11:21 am

      “Huh, why are they allowed to return in the first place?”

      Because they’re all such basically NICE YOUNG BRITONS (and jolly good eggs to boot, made of the stuff of Robin Hood, Noddy, Big Ears and Mr Plod) who have strangely been led astray (ooooh nasty!!), and because everyone’s been so horrid in nasty Syria, and they’ve run out of chocolate and deoderant, they all want to come back ‘home’ again to their mummies and daddies, who were SO surprised and SO upset and SO devastated, crying all night into their burkhas when they disappeared in the first place, never for one second expected anything of the like, how can they misunderstand islam in this way after being taught about peace, love and respect from that nice imam at the local friendly mosque where the children play happily in the assault course – SORRY!! – children’s garden in the back yard, and of course it’s all the fault of the British Government, the local education authority, the Police, the Social Services, the local GP, the local vet, the local vicar (ignore the fact that he’s supposed to be Christian, and followers of the Religion of Peace and Universal Love reputedly hate Christians and cut their heads off, but vicars are paid to look after everyone’s soul in the area, must be his fault as well, so there!), the local school school crossing keeper with his sawn-off lollipop,….

      Well, what DO you expect when a Government seems to take its policies from the script of a 1950’s ‘Carry On’ film? (Thanks again for the inspiration, Don McKellar. And if anyone thinks any of the above is too stupid to be true, you should have seen some of the things that have got into the UK media!!)

  9. Jeremiah says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 7:12 am

    To defend their people, they would have to start doing more than making negative statements. How about stopping the invasion? How about reversing the invasion? How about fighting ISIS? Does England have a military force or is it just for show?

  10. Mahendra Singh says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 7:42 am

    Whining won’t help. The very particular type of terrorism that the defence secretary is talking about
    spawn out of Islam. This pernicious evil has already entered UK, as it has entered other countries of Europe.Learn something from Rotham where young Brit girls of other faith are being used as sex slaves.

    • jayell says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 2:53 pm

      “Learn something from Rotham…” Actually it’s ROTHERHAM, although, the way it’s gone, ‘ROT-HAM’ perhaps seems more appropriate. And the ‘rot’ is not just with those 1,400 girls who have been systematically abused by this collective scum. The ‘rot’ has also got into the establishment and the corridors of power (the police, the local government, education, you name it!). Examples:- 1. The police did not deal properly with girls’ complaints after they had been abused or harrassed. Why? Well, a certain ‘non-indigenous’ Rotherham councillor (who curiously disappeared from the scene just about the time Central Government were taking an interest in the area) was known to have had ‘undue influence’ on the Police Committee. 2. If you visit that area, take a note of the ‘identity’ of many of the police officers. And bear in mind that one such officer who was strangely killed in a hit-and-run car accident (car & driver never identified! in a built up area? probably with witnesses? Odd?) was implicated in attempting to groom a sex victim placed in his charge. 3. The department in Rotherham that deals with licensing taxi cab drivers was known to issue licenses to ‘certain characters’ who were deemed to be unfit for purpose. Go to Rotherham and see who’s driving most of the taxis. And taxi drivers in Rotherham are known to have been deeply implicated in the entire scandal. Care to draw a cnclusion? 4. I haven’t mentioned Education yet, but it would not surprise me to find that there isn’t a ‘Trojan Horse’ or two stabled there. If that had been the case, the controlled media would have been told to keep quiet about it, just as they have been with the whole rotten business, and not just in Rotherham. Now, join up all the dots and what do you see? Well, we never had this sort of thing before about 30-40-50 years ago. So do the words ‘nasty’, ‘rotten’, ‘muslim’ and ‘corruption’ perhaps come to mind?

  11. Undaunted says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 8:04 am

    Can’t defend “our people”? Then let your people defend themselves against this threat with deadly force if necessary and don’t prosecute them when they do.

    Problem solved.

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 3:17 pm

      Problem worsened, given the PC MC of the British authorities. I.e., if the people tried to defend themselves from Muslim attacks, the British police & intelligence would likely go after the people, not the Muslims.

      • Undaunted says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 7:54 am

        I guess you missed the point: the UK government needs to permit its citizens by law to keep and bear arms with which to defend themselves. UK citizens need to buy quality firearms and learn not just to shoot them but also the tactical angles and practices that will make them a deadly threat to anyone who presents a clear and present danger to their lives. Also, as I wrote, the new laws would make impermissible any prosecution of any person who reasonably used deadly force in defense of himself, herself, and/or unprotected loved ones and/or bystanders.

        It’s actually pretty simple.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 2:26 pm

          For the UK government to do that, its sociopolitical culture would have to change from being PC MC to being more rational. This is the process that the war of ideas addresses. Without this change throughout the West (let alone merely the UK), the slow-mo train wreck of a shit-hitting-the-fan problem coming down the pike in the next few decades will be catastrophic.

          We can see incipient, glacial signs of this change happening (sort of like watching the hour hand of a clock move) and we can just barely pinch ourselves and tell ourselves that there is hope from among our fellow citizens who constitute the heart & soul of Western governments (at least if one is not already a Desperado, given up hope on the West); but it’s not a done deal, and it will take continued considerable effort, in myriad ways and styles, from the growing nucleus of the Counter-Jihad having ripple and/or trickle-up effects on our surrounding societies. In this long complex process, it doesn’t help when various Counter-Jihadists diagnose the Problem of the Problem as largely or even only one of a Dastardly Leftist Elite, thus ignoring the much broader problem of tens if not millions of relatively sincere, decent, intelligent people who need to be educated about Islam. For if the Problem of the Problem is only one of Dastardly Leftist Elites, we don’t need to do anything about the broader problem, since it apparently doesn’t exist.

  12. duh_swami says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 8:05 am

    Political correctness (PC) abandons hazard awareness If you invite Drac’ullah into your house, don’t act surprised when you get bit…

  13. Screeminmeeme says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 8:27 am

    Yeah….its hard to stop jihad…..when you’ve already capitulated to the enemy.

    • Godwin says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 9:30 am

      No thanks to Tony Blair, Cameroon n Therese May. Very sad indeed for a country that once ruled the lands where the sun never set.

  14. gordon miller says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 9:30 am

    Political correctness seems to include worldwide cowardice when dealing with Muslims.

  15. Jay Boo says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 9:51 am

    IMHO
    When Anders Breivik went on a killing spree, his attack wasn’t so much on Muslims as it was on the well-entrenched (appeasement mindset).

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 3:22 pm

      That’s not merely your opinion; it’s a demonstrable fact.

      The children (really mostly young adults) on the Utoya island in Norway whom Breivik mass-murdered in ruthlessly efficient, calmly collected cold blood were participants in a project of, among other things, Leftist “dialogue” with youth members of Fatah where the latter actually lived on the island and held seminars with the Leftists who created the project, and who doubtless were anti-Israel. Breivik planned his massacre long in advance and obviously chose his target on purpose: He massacred the very same Leftists who — according to people like Lawrence Auster, Fjordman, El Ingles, Baron Bodissey, David Horowitz, Jamie Glazov, Robert Spencer, Pam Geller, and quite a few others — are at best undermining the West in the face of its worst enemy; and at worst are actively, through their Leftist multiculturalism, trying to destroy the West.

      This Leftist project on the island of Utoya described its embrace of Fatah Youth:

      “Fatah Youth has participated for almost 15 years in the same summer camp and our youth has benefited by learning and sharing experiences on democracy and advocacy for peace and justice.”

      http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/020055.html

      • Angemon says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 5:58 pm

        voegelinian posted:

        “He massacred the very same Leftists who — according to people like Lawrence Auster, Fjordman, El Ingles, Baron Bodissey, David Horowitz, Jamie Glazov, Robert Spencer, Pam Geller, and quite a few others — are at best undermining the West in the face of its worst enemy”

        Right, it’s all those people’s fault that Breivik did what he did, like you tried to argue at the time, even though you, on a near daily basis, crap out rhetoric far more fevered than anything the aforementioned freedom fighters ever wrote. You, at the time, claimed that Spencer, Fjordman, Horowitz, etc. cried “Fire” and Breivik came with axe and fire hose, chopping down the door and dousing the house in water. Under that analogy, you’re not crying “Fire”, you’re crying “the fire is here and its going to kill us all and rape our women and children tomorrow unless we do something involving axes and fire hoses”.

        And, of course, in your eagerness to smear the aforementioned freedom fighters you conveniently leave out Breivik’s real motivations: he was trying to undermine the Counter-Jihad movement, going as far as to suggest allegiances with jihadi groups, to advance his own Neo-Nazi agenda.

        Like I said, you’re a detriment to this site and to the CJ movement in general.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 23, 2015 at 7:38 pm

          I’m not trying to smear them; I’m calling for more clarity of analysis.

        • Angemon says

          Sep 23, 2015 at 10:35 pm

          “I’m not trying to smear them;”

          Yes, you are. At the time you tried to blame them for Breivik’s actions, and now that Breivik admitted that he did what he did to undermine the CJ movement you’re still trying to link them to Breivik’s actions. That’s outright dishonesty, and it’s the same brand of dishonesty you’ve been showing in JW for a decade now – you ran a blog dedicated to smear JW contributors as “softies”.

          “I’m calling for more clarity of analysis.”

          The analysis is clear enough: you lie about and defame the people who are placing their public image, resources and personal safety (not to mention the safety of their families) on the line while you, with no background to speak of, constantly fling crap at them, like a shrieking monkey with its feces. You have a love/hate relationship with free speech and discussion of ideas in the sense that you love to speak your mind and hate what others say, and you love to find non-existent flaws on other people’s ideas (remember how you sneered at the suggestion of halting muslim migration to Western countries?) but you hate it when anyone questions anything you say. Not only that, you demand other people to step in and bully into silence anyone questioning you, going as far as harassing people via email to come to JW and do just that.

          In short: you’ve proven, beyond any reasonable doubt, that you’re a petty wannabe tyrant and a detriment to this site and the CJ movement in general.

  16. RickMT says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 11:18 am

    When the Queen puts on here burka, Sir Winston Churchill will rise from the dead. Relax, it’s ok. Everything will be fine.

  17. DiMu says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Train a Home Guard as the Britain did during WW2

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 25, 2015 at 3:09 pm

      My grandfather was a police superintendent in the West Midlands. He was local leader of the Home Guard during the war.

      Now, perversely, these same police are hamstrung in their efforts to protect the people–or worse, are actually protecting the Mohammedans who are preying on them.

  18. abad says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    The UK made a HUGE mistake when they started allowing Muslims into their borders.

    Now sadly they are paying for it.

    There is only one solution and that is to deport these Muslims back to their home nations.

  19. Dave J says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:12 pm

    The police and intelligence services do not have the resources to track every potential jihadist and monitor the activities of every Mosque and Islamic school. That is the whole idea – bankrupt the host nation with unsupportable security costs by invasion and reproduction so they will have to give up and just accept the new Caliphate.

    • pdxnag says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 1:24 pm

      The fraction of Muslims that become assertive goes up as the percentage of Muslims in the general population goes up. That is, it is not a one to one relation to the number of Muslims because they become more emboldened as they sense the greater likelihood of ultimate and total conquest over the religiously hated Infidel. To repeat, as a mathematical example, if you double the percentage of Muslims you could expect something like four times the number of dangerously assertive Muslims, or more.

      Likewise, cutting the number of Muslims in half would cut the number of assertive Muslims by more than half.

      The ideology is fixed. The only rational response is a math problem, a numbers question. They also know math.

      • voegelinian says

        Sep 23, 2015 at 3:34 pm

        “Likewise, cutting the number of Muslims in half would cut the number of assertive Muslims by more than half.

        The ideology is fixed. The only rational response is a math problem, a numbers question. They also know math.”

        That assumes that surrounding contexts and developments will be lucidly rational and neat. Since it’s reasonable to assume they will be anything but lucidly rational and neat & tidy, we should proceed with our “battle space in the war of ideas” factoring in the more realistic, messy context in which we advocate as activist theorists and concrete activists. The problem of Muslims will continue to worsen not only in the UK but in all Western polities, because the entire West is dominated by PC MC, and the ongoing education about the problem has to fend with this internal process of a nucleus of Westerners who have advanced on the Learning Curve trying to school those in the majority who in varying maddening degrees continue to lag behind. This will perforce cause any incrementally stiffer measures we begin to take — as we inch along at a glacial pace dealing with this problem ever reactively instead of proactively — to likely exacerbate the problem, and make Muslims assert themselves even more — both in their diverse tactics of violence (from terrorism on down to criminality and street thuggery) and taqiyya (stealth jihad).

        In this messy unfolding context, the best thing we, the Counter-Jihad — this still small, but slowly growing nucleus of canaries-in-a-coamine spearhead of rationality about the problem — can do is continue to push the meme of Zero Tolerance of Islam, and of all Muslims, since that is the ultimate entelechy which the global, metastasizing revival of Islam will be provodking, anyway.

  20. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    The fraction of Muslims that become assertive goes up as the percentage of Muslims in the general population goes up.

    As the numbers go up — by chasing off Infidels, by outbreeding Infidels, by importing fresh Moslems, by force converting Infidels, or by all all of the above — sooner or later they hit critical mass, whereupon big trouble starts out in the open. Then begins the glide path descent down into Dar al-Islam. From there it’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. One must account for logistics, lifespans, the capacity of people to move, and so on.

    Lebanon is just now in the final stage of this descent process. The Phillipines is in an earlier stage, about a third of the way to the right on the radio dial, with the south now taken they must push the Cause northward. There is still a substantial amount of working remaining in Thailand, and the Buddhists can get uppity, but Thai is now pretty much a done deal. England? Big potential there, mainly cuz they can’t bring ’em in fast enough and the globo-socialist elites are hellbent on self-destruction. But I’d say Belgium is further along, smaller means more vulnerable. And so on.

    It’s a process. And inevitable one.

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 3:44 pm

      The examples cited — Philippines, Thailand, Lebanon (and others we could throw in — Kenya, Nigeria, etc.) — are all Third World societies, considerably inferior to the UK. I.e., it will (would) take far longer to destabilize an advanced society like the UK to the point where it becomes ripe for conquest. Even in those Third World examples, Muslims can’t definitively conquer, and they’ve been trying for decades if not centuries. There are, however, complications to the above comparison: the reason Muslims in the past were unable to (re)conquer places like the Philippines, Thailand, or Lebanon is largely because Western colonialism intruded and prevented them from doing so (in the case of Philippines, quite aggressively so). The second complication is that in a way, the relative inferiority of polities like Thailand and the Philippines may serve to prevent Muslim conquest by leveling the playing field whereby the dominant society offers less infrastructure and technology for the Muslims to exploit in their attempts to infiltrate and plot the terror attacks that would be a necessary element in any Muslim conquest.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 9:41 pm

      Alarmed Pig Farmer wrote:

      It’s a process. And inevitable one.
      …………………………

      APF, it is also a process that *can be reversed*. We have beaten Islam back in Spain, in Portugal, in southern France, in Sicily, in southern Italy, in Greece, in the Balkans, in Israel, and at the Gates of Vienna.

      The process has taken somewhat different forms over the centuries, but this long history shows that it *can* be done if enough brave and clear-eyed people fight for it.

      • Peggy says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 12:23 am

        Back then there was political will and leadership. There was no PC and the Muslims weren’t so rich.
        Now there is no political leadership. Our defence forces have been neutered and the Muslims have enough money to buy our academia and media.
        People have no power. In most countries people have been disarmed and the army either takes orders from traitors or traitors were put in positions of power in the armed forces.
        We have a much bigger problem now than ever before. Muslims have enough of their own living in our societies to get support from within but back then they had to break in. Now they have the luxury of stealth.
        We are in a lot more trouble now.

        • Charli Main says

          Sep 24, 2015 at 3:27 am

          Yes, Peggy. Its a different kind of war. In the past Muslims had to storm the city walls and break in. Now they are already in ( by our invitation ) and attacking us from within our own society. Muruna and Kitman will increasingly turn to open Jihad.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 2:33 pm

          Yes Charli Main, but at least, as the West devolves into horrendous civil unrest — Mohammedan mass-murder of our citizenries and horrific destruction of large parts of our infrastructure — we can console ourselves (and our ethical narcissism) that we never deported Muslims qua Muslims.

        • Angemon says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 2:53 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “we can console ourselves (and our ethical narcissism) that we never deported Muslims qua Muslims.”

          Huh, what are you talking about? We in the West have been deporting muslims.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 3:21 pm

          There are definitely certain unprecedented factors that make things difficult now–“political correctness”, mass immigration, and Muslims’ unearned oil wealth among them–but surely having a population of Mohammedans not exceeding 10% (as is the case currently in the West) is not more intractable than having been conquered and driven into dhimmitude *for centuries*–which is what many Europeans faced in the past with reclaiming their countries.

          This in no way minimizes what we have to face today–but I do believe we can fight back–and that things are not as dire as what our ancestors had to triumph over in the past.

          Their victory only seems inevitable now because of the passage of history. It *hardly* seemed inevitable at the time.

          Circumstances *are* different now–but I don’t believe they are impossible to overcome.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 9:59 am

      “Inevitable”.

      So you’ve given up? Why do you even bother to comment here, then, if all you’re going to do is tell Mr Spencer and everyone else that they’re wasting their time?

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 25, 2015 at 3:24 pm

        Yes, DDA–*none of us* should give up.

        As bad as things are in Britain, Mohammedans represent just around 5% of the population there now.

        We should resolve to defend our civilized societies–not cede them to the ravening barbarians.

  21. Linda Rivera says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    Tony Blair, Jack Straw, Brown and Cameron colonised our tiny nation with Muslims and are 100% responsible for every Muslim crime and every Muslim terror attack in Britain and the fact that it’s harder by the day to stop jihad terror attacks. The Muslims are OBEYING Quran commands to wage violent jihad on infidels.

    UK ruthless ruling elites are determined to worsen our terrifying situation by continuing to allow massive Muslim immigration and invasion.

    Muslims with close ties to terrorist organisations are NOT banned from entry into Britain. Indeed, they and their families are welcomed and live as parasites on full benefits.

    Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are banned from entry into Britain because they are pro-Israel and tell the TRUTH about Islam.

    If you’re overheard in public making a truthful statement about Islam, UK police who are extremely zealous in enforcing sharia, will hunt you down and arrest you. Patriotic, political party leader, Paul Weston, was arrested by UK police for quoting in public what world-famous Winston Churchill said about Islam.

    DECEIVING FOR ISLAM is UK leaders’ top priority. It brings about the planned Muslim conquest of Britain much faster.

    Join PEGIDA and EDL street rallies. Join Liberty GB patriotic, anti-Islamisation party http://www.libertygb.org.uk/

    JOIN IN the FIGHT FOR FREEDOM and SURVIVAL!

    “Cameron is a traitor” – Paul Weston at Downing Street 20.09.2014 Liberty GB

  22. fidobite says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    GB is f’d…islamo-satanism infection too well established & growing at too rapid a pace. Either there will be major bloodshed in an attempt to disinfect the country or 25 yrs from now will see it a colony of iran. Wake up GB!!

  23. Paladin says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    Yesterday senior security source said of the terror threat: “We do not believe we have reached the high-tide mark yet. We think there’s still more to come.”

    In other words, more jihad is on the way. Also, in totally unrelated news, there is more Islamic immigration on the way. According to PC government types, these two phenomena are *totally* unrelated.

  24. Sam says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    ““Harder by the day” to stop jihad terror attacks”

    It is the same in the US, isn’t it? Muslims are attacking verbally and physically anyone who mentions the true nature of Islam. As of now, it is not as bad as Europe but we are getting there fast with no plan to stop it. Thank you Obama and Liberals!

  25. gravenimage says

    Sep 23, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    UK Defence Secretary: “Harder by the day” to stop jihad terror attacks

    Of course it’s harder by the day to protect Britons from jihad terror attacks. It’s harder because the British government is anxiously pandering to Islamic supremacist and pro-jihad Leftist groups…
    ……………………………………

    It’s also getting harder by the day because Britain–like the rest of the West–is letting more and more ravening Jihadists in.

    More:

    Intelligence experts have also warned that the Islamic terror threat is yet to peak.
    ……………………………………

    Of course it hasn’t peaked–at least Fallon grasps that. So many in the West talk as though Jihad terror rates are somehow static, rather than *mushrooming*.

    There is a growing number of Muslims in the West–and they are becoming further emboldened.

    More:

    Mr Fallon told a London think-tank the slaughter of 38 tourists, including 30 Britons, on a beach in Tunisia in June shows how difficult it is to defend “our people”.
    ……………………………………

    Of course, it has *always* been harder to protect Westerners abroad. The biggest problem is that it is not just Muslim countries that are fast Islamizing–with the predictable rise in violent Jihad–but Britain *itself*.

    More:

    Mr Fallon told the Royal United Services Institute the upsurge in terrorist activity is making it tougher for the Government to carry out its first duty – protecting the public.
    ……………………………………

    At least Mr. Fallon considers protecting the public to be the first duty of government–rather than promoting “multiculturalism” or prosecuting “Islamophobia”.

    More:

    He said that with every homegrown jihadist “battle-hardened in Syria” returning to Britain, the risks increase.
    ……………………………………

    They are not the only threat–there are other Jihadists–but keeping them out or arresting them when they return should be regular policy.

    More:

    Mr Fallon said: “Last week the head of MI5, Andrew Parker, said Britain is facing an ‘unprecedented and growing terror threat’ with 15 attacks foiled worldwide and six in this country this year alone… with the number of terror plots the highest since 9/11.
    ……………………………………

    Meanwhile, there have been almost 27,000 *successful* Jihad terror attacks worldwide just since 9/11.

    More:

    “That’s why we have already ringfenced counter-terrorism spending.”
    ……………………………………

    But there is still only a finite amount in the kitty–even in wealthy nations such as England or the United States. Part of the purpose of Jihad terror is to bankrupt the victims.

    More:

    Yesterday senior security source said of the terror threat: “We do not believe we have reached the high-tide mark yet. We think there’s still more to come.”

    Latest official figures show a record 299 arrests for terrorism-related offences in the year to March 31, a 31 per cent increase on the previous year and the highest since records began after the 9/11 attacks.
    ……………………………………

    There are many reasons for Muslims being increasingly emboldened–the “Arab Spring”, the rise of the Islamic State, increasing Muslim immigration into the West, including the current Hijira, the weak response from Western societies and governments, and the growing number of successful Jihad terror attacks themselves.

    The question now is whether whether Britain will man up and face the threat more forcefully, or throw up their hands and decide it is hopeless.

  26. keith says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 3:09 am

    … a country that held the fury of the Third Reich at bay is now going to just let an unarmed rabble migrate there and destroy its culture..?!! That’s certainly not the England I remember…

  27. Concerned Citizen says

    Sep 25, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    I am somewhat new to Jihad Watch and want to learn all I can about the threat that is happening to the West presently. I am not as well versed as most of you and I have been reading all of your comments and taking it all in. I also have clicked on links that you guys have posted to learn more. Can someone tell me why we have gotten to this point? When I watch a video on YouTube, many comments are blasting America and people say we are the reason why this is all happening and how many people in this world hate us. They are also saying we are greedy and all we want is the oil, etc. and how we are the biggest killers in the world. Maybe some politicians are that way, but the American people are not. How do I combat those comments? I want to fight for my country and let people know we are not bad!! ISIS says they want to kill us because we invaded Iraq but then on the other hand they want to kill all non believers! Which one is it?

    • Angemon says

      Sep 26, 2015 at 8:37 am

      Concerned Citizen posted:

      “When I watch a video on YouTube, many comments are blasting America and people say we are the reason why this is all happening and how many people in this world hate us. They are also saying we are greedy and all we want is the oil, etc. and how we are the biggest killers in the world.”

      Well, most people commenting in YT are stupid. And ignorant. But mostly stupid.

      • Concerned Citizen says

        Sep 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm

        That’s the conclusion I came to as well! Then they judge all police officers as racists because the media is showing a few officers engaging in confrontations with black people and the black people are ending up dead. 99% of those are I self defense but “Black Lives Matter” keeps playing the racist card! There is plenty of footage of officers killing white people, but we can’t talk about that! Geez! I was driving down my street and this black pulls out in front of me and I almost hit him, then when we got to the red light, he got out of his car and started walking towards me calling me racist and if I had a problem! I was like what in the hell did I do?? I didn’t say a word…just had my 380 at my side just in case he tried to get in my car to get at me. There was no need in that! If anything I should of been the one that was pissed. Anyway, I’m just sick and scared of all of this. Sorry for the rant!

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