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Video: Migrants screaming “Allahu akbar” attack Slovenian police

Sep 19, 2015 6:53 pm By Robert Spencer

The “humanitarian crisis,” aka the hijrah into Europe, continues.

Video thanks to David.

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  1. Wellington says

    Sep 19, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    What is here occurring to Slovenia is, in microcosm, what is occurring to all the West. These people screaming that horribly ugly refrain “Allahu akbar,” aren’t refugees. They’re invaders.

    Profoundly unfortunately, the West is now led by fools or worse in these exigent times.. These fools or worse include Obama, Cameron, Merkel and the present Pope.

    It all adds up to a “perfect storm” that may very well sink the ship which is Western Civilization. It is a tragedy of the first dimension in the making, courtesy of Islam and ignorance of Islam.

    • Jon Sobieski says

      Sep 19, 2015 at 7:43 pm

      That is the question, are they fools or malevolent collaborators?

      • Wellington says

        Sep 19, 2015 at 8:07 pm

        Good question, Sobieski, but in a way an academic one since the effect whichever of the two is essentially the same.

      • Harry_the_Horrible says

        Sep 19, 2015 at 8:28 pm

        “Yes.”

      • Don McKellar says

        Sep 19, 2015 at 11:47 pm

        EXACTLY. Where do they really fall?

        Are they so foolish that they are malevolent? IF SO then then they can be tried under different charges with a different sentence than if they are

        Malevolent collaborators — who under the financial influence of outside sources such as the Saudis. As the Saudis are actively working to promote Islam across the world and has even offered to build 200 mosques in the lands that these colonists are trying to colonize (as EIGHTY PERCENT ARE NOT EVEN REFUGEES FROM SYRIA) then Merkel and the rest can all be tried under different charges with larger sentences when found guilty.

        There is a GIGANTIC difference between the two ends of the spectrum legally.

        • Wellington says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 12:58 am

          There might be additional charges if complicity was accompanied by graft but legal systems aplenty, certainly Common Law, hold forth that ignorance is no defense and the penalty therefore, whether due to ignorance or complicity, is the same. As a basic example, though on a relatively minor matter, it makes no difference in the law if one is using a cell phone while driving in a state that forbids such and one knows this is illegal or doesn’t know it.

        • Urs Christen says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 8:34 pm

          When the shit hits the fan Merkel will escape to her farm in Uruguay where she has the Bush clan as neighbours, the arm of the law can not reach her there, Uruguay will not extradite political criminals to be tried overseas. Also the super rich are buying farms in New Zealand to escape to when it all gets to hot in Europe, they have all angles covered while John Citizen is staying put to face the mess his politicians have created!

      • Peggy says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 3:39 am

        A fool cannot get as high as that in politics. They are traitors and need to be strung up.

        • Paul says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 5:47 pm

          Too true. I hate it when people call them “naive” or “stupid”.
          Evil, corrupt, traitorous, and greedy, but never naive or stupid.
          People like Anjem Choudary are our enemies, but at least they’re
          honest. Nobody can say that about the likes of Scameron or
          Obamuhammadan.

        • quotha raven says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 6:07 pm

          To Paul – “Obamahamadan”

          Hadn’t seen that one before. Brill! It’s my favorite to date. Look what they did to The Donald when he laughed that guy off that said O was a Muslim. Whoa, Nellie! They mince meated him! (thereby exhibiting the left’s own deep anti-muslim bias by being horrified that anyone would suggest that O is a MUSLIM:0)

          Watch your back, Paul!

          Cheers! quotha r

        • Paul says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 6:01 pm

          And the same goes for communist groups like ‘Unite Against
          Fascism’ (!) (Unite Against Freedom). They joined al-muhajiroun
          in a pro-sharia law demonstration, thus counter-demonstrating
          a group of ex- and secular minded muslims who had come to
          oppose its imposition in the British legal system.Their nauseating
          and predictable reaction to the presence of the likes of the EDL
          and Britain First demonstrating in Rotherham was “don’t let the
          racists divide us”. Not a word though, of course, about the muslims
          raping the kids. Can anyone still say that people like these are
          somehow naive or confused? Don’t make me laugh.

        • Paul says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 6:33 pm

          @quotha raven,
          Well, that’s what he is. He’s about as ‘Christian’ as Obama
          bin Laden was 🙂

      • Karen says

        Sep 26, 2015 at 11:10 am

        Most are weak-minded politicians with no master plan beyond their own perpetual re-election. Their goal is to appeal to the broadest segment while not getting stuck in any gotchas and looking bad. So they go the route of ‘niceness’, because the root motivations and results don’t matter, only the superficial intentions do (i.e., I’m trying to help people, so shut up.) Brilliant, actually. Who can argue against niceness?

      • Dr. Divinity says

        Sep 29, 2015 at 9:40 pm

        INVASION OF THE FREEDOM SNATCHERS

    • Cheryl S says

      Sep 19, 2015 at 8:34 pm

      Well articulated and sadly, profoundly true.

      • mortimer says

        Sep 19, 2015 at 10:25 pm

        Wellington wrote: “These people screaming that horribly ugly refrain “Allahu akbar,” aren’t refugees. They’re invaders.”

        The invasion is a form of jihad…jihad of the weak. Violent jihad is the jihad of the strong.

    • Jack says

      Sep 19, 2015 at 10:27 pm

      Wellington I believe this Hijrah (Immigration Jihad) has been set up to bring about Chaos which is needed to bring about the New World Order “Out of Chaos come Order” “Novus Ordo Seclorum” What better way to create Chaos on a world wide scale than to allow madmen into civilized countries. I have studied ancient history, ancient religions and especially the Scriptures, what seems to be happening will lead to the Great Tribulation which will lead to the fake savior the Scriptures call “The Man Of Sin” “The Son Of Perdition” “The Lawless One” but better known as the Antichrist The people behind this are Satanists they believe someday they will rule as gods with him, this is nothing new it can be traced at least to the days of Nimrod and Babylon most people believe the statues in Washington DC are a design from Greece and Rome but it’s from Babylon as Zechariah said the goddess Ishtar moved, she sure did she moved to Greece then Rome and America. Research America’s beginning with the Free Masons. God warns of a latter day country that began in the Occult as wells as Christianity. That’s not all; this “Latter Days” nation has over 100 prophecies that fit America like a glove. This “Latter Days” nation will have aliens in her land that God calls Caterpillars because they are so destructive, He also name the Medes as the nations that attack, these nations all today are all Muslim nations Persia is one mentioned with fiery arrows Iran is modern Persia and of course all the fire the Scripture speaks of has to be missiles. God even mentions our government leaders in a turmoil not agreeing on anything. All this and much much more yet the majority of Christian leaders claim all these prophecies are in a future Iraq this would be laughable if it weren’t so serious, “Strong Delusion” it’s here and big time. “Today Americans would resent having U.N troops on their streets but with the right Chris they will demand it” New World Order control freak David Rockefeller he’s one of those who claim the population must be reduced to save the world, even the pope is on board with this according to an Italian news source located in Rome.

      • Don McKellar says

        Sep 19, 2015 at 11:56 pm

        You can go on and on about your “end time” religious beliefs, but even an atheist like me knows that the character of Muhammad was created EXACTLY to be the Anti-Christ character promised in the Bible. Like many works of fiction (Mein Kampf and Das Kaptial come to mind as more recent examples), there are masses of people desperately trying to make them come true, just like the Islamic texts. They really buy into them and believe that crap. This type of thing always leads to mass bloodshed, misery, and horror. Always. That’s what we’re seeing here. The problem is that when it’s the “word of god (or allah)” then it doesn’t go away after it’s overcome the first time like the nazis or communism. It is viewed as stronger than that by the believers.

        • Western Canadian says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 2:45 am

          “The problem is that when it’s the “word of god (or allah)” then it doesn’t go away after it’s overcome the first time like the nazis or communism. It is viewed as stronger than that by the believers.”

          Rather flawed view of history, and fascism in all its forms. Nazism is largely dead, for now, but Communism has not been vanquished, by any means. The current economic and social mess in the US, is largely if not entirely due to hard left true believers.

          But I wouldn’t expect any better from a mere low church atheist.

        • Jay Boo says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 3:02 am

          The Irrational Atheist: Dissecting the Unholy Trinity of Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens. By Vox Day. Benbella Books. 320 pages. $24.95.

      • Paul says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 7:12 pm

        @Jack,
        Just a few things I’d like to add. I believe such a “strong delusion”
        is in the form of the islamic ‘Jesus’ – do NOT be fooled by muslims
        when they say they believe in him. Their ‘Jesus’ was neither crucified
        nor is he the son of God, but he comes back to correct everyone who
        believes believes otherwise. We are told to be on our guard against a
        such an impostor in Matthew 24, who may even deceive the very “elect”.
        Obviously, Jesus thought this was very important to mention. The islamic
        ‘mahdi’ (e.g. his 7 year ‘peace’ treaty with Israel) is the mirror image of the
        Biblical antichrist, and their ‘Jesus’ is suspiciously similar to the “false prophet”
        of Revelation who performs signs and wonders to mislead people.
        So, be warned of any Jesus except the one that died for us and who
        was resurrected!
        As far as the whole Babylon thing is concerned, Saudi-Arabia is the
        “daughter of Babylon” and Mecca is the centre of the worship of
        ‘allah’, which is just the repackaged form of the false Babylonian god
        ‘Bel’. Its money helps to pay for the ongoing islamisation of other countries
        which is an attempt to bring the whole world under one ‘religion’, one
        language (Arabic), one ‘culture’ etc. Saudi-Arabia, and its centre of false
        worship is the “Mystery Babylon” of Revelation. Its destruction will come at
        the hands of a nuclear Iran, while its busy trying to destroy us :

    • epistemology says

      Sep 20, 2015 at 11:12 am

      Well said Wellington. Europe is a sinking ship. When you watch TV you always hear that the migrants are suffering and Islam is a wonderful religion. Nobody is invited to chat shows who tells the truth. They start with indoctrinating the children. They learn about different cultures, are told that a mosque is a house of worship like a church, it’s all the same we all worship the same God and that kind of rubbish.

      Our politicians are morons and collaborators at the same time. They think if they pander to muzzies they can win their votes.

      All the best to you my friend, take care

    • DIDI MAGNIN says

      Sep 20, 2015 at 5:55 pm

      What I find interesting (?) is that the refugees are all well fed if you compare them to the people in France fleeing the Nazis. These people are probably fairly rich – what is happening to the poorrer people living in Syria and Iraq?

    • Stephen Green says

      Sep 23, 2015 at 9:13 am

      Well now, I see by this article that there are many who agree with me on this topic. It’s a ‘new’ way to conquer a whole civilization. Man kinds history of violence against one an other will continue until we’ve destroyed ourselves..

  2. somehistory says

    Sep 19, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    This is a result of the rise of the wild beast and the creation of its image with the subsequent implementation. by force, of worship of this beast and its image. All people that live on earth, through the violence of the wild beast are being commanded, forced, to worship this wild beast from satan.

    For those who refuse to worship the beast and its image, is the threat of death and the reality of what pressures are laid upon them regarding the ability to buy and sell.

    This intrusion, these interlopers, will strain even the *wealthiest* of nations to provide for their citizens basic services. We are in the time of the end. It won’t get better just yet, but we see it getting worse by the day. In those countries now so directly affected, such as Hungary, Croatia, Serbia, Germany, it most likely is getting worse by the hour. Trouble is only going to increase for awhile.

    Jesus Christ said that during the great tribulation, the nations would not “know the way out.”
    (Revelation 13; Matthew 24)

    • Paul says

      Sep 20, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      @somehistory
      There’s a good video which compares Christian and Muhammadan
      eschatology. It’s quite long, but it’s well worth watching. It talks
      about the ‘image of the beast’ etc.
      Some may scoff at this – fair enough, to each their own – but I believe it
      to be true and that we’ll see the ‘beast’ of islam rise like never before, but
      we’ll also see its downfall. Watch it and decide for yourself :

      • somehistory says

        Sep 21, 2015 at 2:25 am

        Paul,
        I have watched a few videos on this topic. Have read some things too. I had wondered about the beast for a very long time, reading and studying over and over. Praying for understanding.
        When the *arab spring* began, it became clear.
        And when kerry said the names of the nations that signed on to the plan with iran…and said, “We are the seventh,” I saw even clearer just how it all fits And the various governments…esp the 7 signed on to the new plan…are insisting that islam is peaceful and we must give respect to its adherents and not say anything against it.

        Just like the Revelation Scriptures say.

        In fact, I have watched the video in the link you provided a couple of times. Very interesting..

        • Paul says

          Sep 21, 2015 at 7:40 am

          I get much of my info from people like Walid Shoebat and Joel
          Richardson. They look at prophecy from an Eastern mindset
          – which is what it is – and they take things at face value instead
          of imposing other meanings upon scripture and making it
          meaningless, which is what many Western ‘experts’ like to do.
          It’s only then that things begin to make sense. Some wrongly
          speculated that the antichrist would come from the EU (though
          Merkel IS one evil little woman) or that he’d be homosexual.
          That’s not what Daniel 11 tells us. He’s a devoutly religious figure
          who doesn’t worship the god of his forefathers or the one desired
          by women (so, women’s rights aren’t exactly his priority), but rather
          a “god of fortresses” (wonder what ‘god’ that could be?), which he
          will “honour with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly
          gifts” – ‘Zakat’? Shoebat said for years that Turkey would become
          increasingly islamist and antagonistic towards Israel, and that the
          antichrist would emerge from this nation, the “wounded” head
          of the seventh “beast” empire, which is trying to revive itself.
          That’s just what we’re seeing now. The Islamic State is doing
          Turkey’s dirty work for it by dismantling borders, allowing the
          latter to intervene and take control under the pretext of a peace
          keeping force (killing Christians, bombing the Kurds etc.) Clinton
          and Obama have been completely complicit with Erdogan right from
          the beginning.

  3. patechinois says

    Sep 19, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    I thought Slovenia wasn’t going to accept any “refugees”???? What’s up with this…are these Muslims already in Slovenia?

    Absolutely revolting.

    • Angemon says

      Sep 19, 2015 at 8:24 pm

      The “refugees” probably want to pass through Slovenia on their way to Germany/Sweden.

      • Peggy says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 3:46 am

        That’s correct. Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary, Croatia and Slovenia are all transit routes for these invaders.
        They are out to conquer the west and then will turn their attention to the east.
        They must be stopped at any cost but when the armed forces are in hands of traitors, that’s not going to happen unless people revolt.

    • Nan says

      Sep 19, 2015 at 11:59 pm

      Hungary locked the door, pulled up the drawbridge and put alligators in the moat so they decided to go through the former Yugoslavia; Serbia, to Croatia, to Slovenia, so they could go through Austria to get to Germany or Sweden, the more generous countries.

      The problem with going through the former Iron Curtain countries is that a) they’re stubborn people who do not forget that the Ottoman Empire aspired to take over Europe and b) not so far removed from their totalitarian pasts that they’re against a little tear gas, etc.

      Ljubljana, the capitol city of Slovenia, has a suburb called Bezigrad, literally “flee castle” which is in the direction toward which the Turks fled when they tried to take over the place.

      • PRCS says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 1:20 am

        I dare ‘ya.

        Pronounce Ljubljana,

        • FĂ­rebug says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 4:21 am

          Loob – lee – ana

        • quotha raven says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 8:55 am

          PRCS – LOL – I tried. I couldn’t. Cheers! quotha

  4. Huck Folder says

    Sep 19, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    We need many, many more of these incidents to expose this invasion for what it truly is.
    Even then, the libtards will say that it’s ALL the West’s fault for not just letting them in.

    Oh how I wish that non-PC reporters would ask each and every bleeding heart who says let them all in: “How many have you welcomed into your home?”

  5. Jan II Sobieski says

    Sep 19, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    I’m beginning to feel some slight optimism regarding ending this jihad by immigration. The Russians, while historically my least favorite mob of murderers, seem to entering the war against ISIS. I think the Russians have demonstrated in Chechnya there ability to stop or at least contain Islamic terrorist and jihad. This will stop that portions of the refugees who were fleeing from Islam in the form of the ISIS.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 19, 2015 at 10:32 pm

      The Russians will demand the recognition of their invasion of Crimea and Ukraine and pieces of whatever eastern NATO countries they further demand…just as Hitler demanded the Rhineland, Sudetenland and more and more and more.

      A Pole should understand the Russians better than you just expressed!

      • BenDavid says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 3:42 am

        mortimer, usually I love to read your comments. But on this one you are deadly wrong! There is no way the West can defeat Islam without the help of Russia.. No way, what so ever! Remember that my friend.

      • Peggy says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 3:53 am

        I don’t think that Russia has any designs on Poland. What they want is their land which they had previously and on which ethnic Russians are still living.
        Also what Russians want is for the west to butt out of their sphere which is Eastern Europe and stop expanding NATO to their doorstep.
        The west had no business destroying Yugoslavia in order to grab fragments called new countries now under their influence and especially had no business bombing Serbia in order to take 15% of their territory to give to Muslims Albanians. This area was not west’s problem especially when what was achieved is more Muslim countries in the region with more terrorist ties.
        It will take Russia to get involved to sort this out in Europe but the west will pain Russia as some evil empire determined to take everyone’s land which is totally false.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 4:53 pm

          Peggy wrote:

          I don’t think that Russia has any designs on Poland. What they want is their land which they had previously and on which ethnic Russians are still living.
          Also what Russians want is for the west to butt out of their sphere which is Eastern Europe and stop expanding NATO to their doorstep.
          …………………………

          I realize that this is not specifically the place for this discussion, but apologia for Russia’s aggressive invasion of Ukraine is just appalling.

          And the idea–frequently expressed–that the West needs to acknowledge that Russia should be able to dominate any country that they once invaded and oppressed behind the Iron Curtain is just dreadful–and something any freedom-loving person should be deeply disturbed by.

          Right now, unfree Russia is not the threat that Islam is–but that hardly means that winking at–or outright supporting–authoritarian Russian aggression is in any way benignant.

        • quotha raven says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 5:28 pm

          Gravenimage –

          I believe you are exactly right about Russia and her intentions vis a vis Ukraine and other former satellites of the Soviet Union, and her creepy, corrupt, totalitarian government, with Putin (never forget he was former head of KGB; now he is one of the richest men on the planet) at the helm.

          I’ve heard the argument Peggy espouses, and it is just terribly wrong-headed in light of current reality and history. She sometimes, with all due respect, as I read her comments avidly, reveals an inclination to feel America owes the world an apology, like our current president has been doing since he took office.

          Cheers! quotha r

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 6:47 pm

          Hi, Quotha! Always good to see you posting–hope you are doing well!

          And I agree–while I do consider Peggy an ally in the fight against Jihad, her hatred of the free West is sometimes almost as pronounced as is her dislike of Islam. In fact, Russia is much more Anti-American than it is focused on opposing violent Jihad. Quite disturbing.

      • Jay Boo says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 3:54 am

        Mortimer
        I heard that exact same spiel repeated on Al Jazeera sponsored Morsi defender NPR radio during daily telethon appeal against Russia for weeks at a time.

        Time to change channels

      • Jay Boo says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 3:58 am

        I hope Russia invades NATO (in name only) Turkey and bombs Islamist ErdoÄźan’s palace flat.

        • Charli Main says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 6:21 am

          Turkey is heavily complicit in the current Muslim invasion of Europe. The Turks are supplying all the boats and rubber rafts to these Muslim “refugees” and helping them set off for the Greek islands.
          Remember the words of Turkish Prime Minster whose objective is to re- establish the Ottoman Empire in Europe.
          ” Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers”

  6. mortimer says

    Sep 19, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    jon sobieski wrote: “are they fools or malevolent collaborators”

    BOTH. They are both.

    The cultural Marxists want to destroy Western civilization…they have no idea THEY ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE.

    • Peter Charles says

      Sep 19, 2015 at 11:01 pm

      Thye aree juggling H. E. hand grenades with very very loose pins.

      • Tiredofstupid says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 1:32 am

        I seem to remember a man in a smokey hat telling me “When the pin comes out, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend” I believe that is an apt analogy for our muslim “friends”

  7. Thomas says

    Sep 19, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    They want a war let’s give them one! Allah Akbar !

  8. abad says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 12:02 am

    Those “migrants” are nothing but Moslem Terrorists(TM)

    Europe needs to round them up and send them ALL back to Saudi Arabia.

  9. Westman says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 2:17 am

    I’m going to suggest what could be a completely wrong parallel line of reasoning that might arrive at the same state of affairs.

    The rich Arab nations tend to employ and abuse many desperate foreign workers who have little economic opportunity in their home country. There are a number of factors responsible for that desperation, three of which are lack of directly-useable natural resources, unsustainable rates of reproduction, and the societal control of Islam.

    The Non-oil producing ME Muslim countries, where there is warfare, have reached the limits of support that their current infrastructure and productive economy can provide. Warfare has also weakened the local and government controls, providing an opportunity to escape an obviously bleak future. Ironically, it is those who still have means that are most able to migrate while the truly destitute are left behind.

    I’m thinking that the “refugees” are mainly migrants bailing out of an uncertain future of hardship and starvation, caused as much by resource/population ratios as by the warfare; the large families straining resources until warfare pushed the population beyond the tipping point. War may always have been a population balancing process as well as infanticide in pre-Islamic ME society.

    The indirect cause is Islamic “culture” that keeps the society without adequate reserves for changing circumstances. It is ironic that it is also Islamic war-culture causing the current crisis and migration. Because the migrants are largely Muslims, they carry with them a “culture” that is not self-sustaining should they become a majority while still retaining that Islamic Ideology.

    For now, Europe will be a host, its future survival depending on the ideology of the migrants moving toward personal freedom or remaining as Allah’s slaves.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 20, 2015 at 2:42 am

      Westman wrote:

      I’m thinking that the “refugees” are mainly migrants bailing out of an uncertain future of hardship and starvation, caused as much by resource/population ratios as by the warfare; the large families straining resources until warfare pushed the population beyond the tipping point…
      ……………………

      With all respect, Westman, if this is largely about “starving families”, then why are there so few women, children, and old people? Why are they mostly young men? And if they are starving, why do they seem to be so well nourished?

      And finally, why would economic migrants not only be so aggressive, but specifically screaming “Allahu Akbar”, which is the call of violent Jihad and Muslim supremacism?

      • Peggy says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 3:59 am

        We have to be the laughing stock of the west by now.
        They are screaming their war cry and telling us to our face that they are invading our countries and will take over and still there are so many idiots who just don’t want t face it.
        We keep telling them that and they won’t listen. We not only will have to fight Islam, we will have to fight our own idiots too.
        You bring valid questions like if they are migrants why do they threaten us with their war cry but I guess a lot of people will not get it. Yes, we on this site get it but how many can we convince outside of this circle?
        I am trying and I hope all the people on here are trying to get the word out to the rest of the world too. Let’s hope we get to change some minds soon.

        • Rezali Mehil says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 9:24 am

          Salaam Peggy, Eastman

          You say …”They are screaming their war cry and telling us to our face that they are invading our countries” .

          Actually it is more complicated than that…
          1) Allahu Akbar…is not a war cry per say …it is a response to a myriad of emotions were we require immediate, medium or long term association with Allah SWT though a lifetime of knowing our saviour. The connection is strengthened many fold when there are may of us in one place …so it is like 1+1 is not 2 but 11 (eleven)…if you get what I am trying to say.

          2) I like Westman…and he does have a sound argument for many muslims when he says “refugees are mainly migrants bailing out of an uncertain future of hardship and starvation”…without a doubt this *will* be true for many of those fleeing…just like those Europeans you see in films…fleeing war zones in the 2nd world war…they too had many men who did not stay to fight the Germans.

          3) Ofcourse there are traffickers who export many by making money in selling a dream….and many of these traffickers are Europeans taking Arab money.

          4) Saudi do not want them, (they have air conditioned tents (normally for Hajj) which could accommodate 2 Million of them, but have not taken a single one)…part of the reason is it will greatly damage their economy …because annual Hajj brings in so much money to the Kingdom…but Hajj travellers will not come in the numbers required in a tainted environment…. Turkey do not want them, and Queen Rania wants you to have more them.

          5) The Russians have now moved into Syria…. http://www.debka.com/article/24893/Russian-troops-already-engaged-in-battle-against-ISIS-around-Homs

          they will now protect Assad at any price….the time for Western/US intervention in Syria is over …the Russians have made the decision for you ….The Israeli premier is going to Russia next month for “bi-lateral” talks …indeed they may try and generate new ties with Russia …since Obama will not play ball with Israel.

          So ultimately there will be more of “them” …or “us” if you lump me in with them… call it what you will. Over the next decade as many as 10 million refugees could settle in Europe…if the fighting continues….which ofcourse it will.

          So let me say that again …10million over the next decade….and perhaps to boot .. upto 1million to the US.

          So Peggy, Westman I want to you fast forward 10 -20 years, whereby Saudi has funded possibly 10,000 mosques all over Europe/US to help Europe not have to find the grants for these buildings.

          What this means to you Peggy..Westman is not to get lost in the smoke or the politics of this and become a disadvantaged kuffar in your own country. …i.e. as a comparison …don’t become a coptic christian in Egypt.

          If you want to wait …then wait …*BUT* when the time is right …jump….and fast to take up the Muslim faith. …Your children deserve that security …

          Do not listen to Graven …she has no children ..and so her agenda is different…and at any rate she may just relocate to Egypt to carry on her MIL’s work there and will want see her “mummy” there every day.

          More Later …

          Rezali

        • Incek Mahallesi says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 9:36 am

          Reza the Girl:

          “…so it is like 1+1 is not 2 but 11 (eleven)…if you get what I am trying to say.”

          Nope – don’t get it at all, Mohammedist. Must be your addled Islamo-Mind at work.
          ________________________________________________________________

          “…just like those Europeans you see in films…fleeing war zones in the 2nd world war…they too had many men who did not stay to fight the Germans.”

          Oh, right – you mean those Jewish Europeans? You’re disgusting. Just admit that you have a hard-on for killing Jews because your pedophile “prophet” said to do so.
          ________________________________________________________________

          “Of course there are traffickers who export many by making money in selling a dream….and many of these traffickers are Europeans taking Arab money.”

          Right. It’s those nasty European Jews again, right, selling those Mozlems down the road, right? Did you forget about all of the Libyan traffickers – the vast majority of the amalgamation of human smugglers?
          ________________________________________________________________

          “Saudi do (sic) not want them, (they have air conditioned tents (normally for Hajj) which could accommodate 2 Million of them, but have not taken a single one)…part of the reason is it will greatly damage their economy …because annual Hajj brings in so much money to the Kingdom.”

          Ok. So it will damage their economy because more hajj imbeciles are good for the economy? Got it, dumbass.

          _______________________________________________________________

          “Do not listen to Graven …she has no children ..and so her agenda is different…and at any rate she may just relocate to Egypt to carry on her MIL’s work there and will want see her “mummy” there every day.”

          You’re just simply vile. But then again, you’re a Mozlem – a stinking, rotten, vile little piece of human excrement. What more can one say, except that I hope I meet you in a dark alley some day?

        • abad says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 12:06 pm

          Don’t you have a quota to go fulfill, Rezali?

        • Peggy says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 4:29 pm

          Razali said:

          If you want to wait …then wait …*BUT* when the time is right …jump….and fast to take up the Muslim faith. …Your children deserve that security
          ==================
          My children deserve to live like human beings which will never happen under Islam.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 5:58 pm

          The repulsive Rezali Mehil wrote:

          Salaam Peggy, Eastman (sic)

          You say …”They are screaming their war cry and telling us to our face that they are invading our countries” .

          Actually it is more complicated than that…
          1) Allahu Akbar…is not a war cry per say …it is a response to a myriad of emotions were we require immediate, medium or long term association with Allah SWT though a lifetime of knowing our saviour…
          …………………………………..

          In other words, “Allahu Akbar!” is not *just* a war cry–it can also be an expression of contempt for Infidels, and a gloating cry of victory–aggressive Muslim supremacy in general. *Ugh*.

          More:

          2) I like Westman…and he does have a sound argument for many muslims when he says “refugees are mainly migrants bailing out of an uncertain future of hardship and starvation”…without a doubt this *will* be true for many of those fleeing…just like those Europeans you see in films…fleeing war zones in the 2nd world war…they too had many men who did not stay to fight the Germans.
          …………………………………..

          Is Rezali Mehil admitting that Islamic law is just like Fascism? It seems so–she would be quickly murdered by her pious coreligionists for making such a blasphemous admission if she were not herself squatting in the free West.

          More:

          3) Ofcourse there are traffickers who export many by making money in selling a dream….and many of these traffickers are Europeans taking Arab money.
          …………………………………..

          What crap.

          “ISIS smuggler: ‘We will use refugee crisis to infiltrate West'”

          http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/isis-smuggler-we-will-use-refugee-crisis-to-infiltrate-west/

          The fact is that the West has been economically overwhelmed by these Muslim invaders–providing aid and security.

          The idea that Westerners are instead *making money* off these “refugees” could not be more ludicrous.

          More:

          4) Saudi do not want them, (they have air conditioned tents (normally for Hajj) which could accommodate 2 Million of them, but have not taken a single one)…part of the reason is it will greatly damage their economy …because annual Hajj brings in so much money to the Kingdom…but Hajj travellers will not come in the numbers required in a tainted environment…. Turkey do not want them, and Queen Rania wants you to have more them.
          …………………………………..

          Of course Muslim nations want us to “have more them (sic)”. They are intended as an invasion.

          More:

          5) The Russians have now moved into Syria…. http://www.debka.com/article/24893/Russian-troops-already-engaged-in-battle-against-ISIS-around-Homs

          they will now protect Assad at any price….
          …………………………………..

          Rezali Mehil *loves* the idea of Infidels dying to defend her fellow Shia–she has openly said that she regards such foolish Kuffar with utter disdain.

          As for Israel, Hizb’allah has been murdering Jews for decades now.

          More:

          So ultimately there will be more of “them” …or “us” if you lump me in with them… call it what you will. Over the next decade as many as 10 million refugees could settle in Europe…if the fighting continues….which ofcourse it will.
          …………………………………..

          And why would such fighting continue? Because Muslims love killing “heretics” and “apostates” as much as they do Infidels. There is no peace in Islam.

          And Rezali Mahil is gloating over her coreligonists turning civilized Europe into the same sort of Islamic hell holes they are now leaving.

          More:

          So let me say that again …10million over the next decade….and perhaps to boot .. upto 1million to the US.
          …………………………………..

          More gloating…

          More:

          So Peggy, Westman I want to you fast forward 10 -20 years, whereby Saudi has funded possibly 10,000 mosques all over Europe/US to help Europe not have to find the grants for these buildings.
          …………………………………..

          What crap. Saudi Arabia just wants to ensure–as they have with their Mosque-building project everywhere–that violent orthodox Sunni Islam is promulgated in Dar-al-Harb.

          “Saudi Arabia won’t take any Syrian refugees, but offers to build 200 mosques for them in Germany”

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/saudi-arabia-wont-take-any-syrian-refugees-but-offers-to-build-200-mosques-for-them-in-germany

          More:

          What this means to you Peggy..Westman is not to get lost in the smoke or the politics of this and become a disadvantaged kuffar in your own country. …i.e. as a comparison …don’t become a coptic christian in Egypt.

          If you want to wait …then wait …*BUT* when the time is right …jump….and fast to take up the Muslim faith. …Your children deserve that security …
          …………………………………..

          Note what this Muslimah is openly admitting–that her vicious coreligonists will oppress and murder the very native Infidels who are now aiding them.

          And their only out will be *joining* their abusers, and oppressing, enslaving, and murdering Infidels themselves–to either see their children suffer at the hands of monsters, or turn them into monsters themselves…

          Of course, there is a third option–opposing this barbarous invasion. But Rezali Mahil hopes we won’t believe such opposition is possible.

          More:

          Do not listen to Graven …she has no children ..and so her agenda is different…and at any rate she may just relocate to Egypt to carry on her MIL’s work there and will want see her “mummy” there every day.
          …………………………………..

          For anyone wondering about this, this is Rezali Mehil sneering at my concern over my elderly mom-in-law, who has been ill. And why wouldn’t she sneer over such concern? There is no love in Islam.

          And what do these Muslim invaders have in store for vulnerable Infidels? We already know:

          “UK: Woman beheaded in broad daylight by machete-wielding Muslim…”

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/uk-woman-beheaded-in-broad-daylight-by-machete-wielding-muslim-police-rule-out-terrorism

          As for the reference to Egypt, my husbands’s mother was a docent for a prominent collection of ancient Egyptian artifacts in the US for many years.

          Muslims cannot understand caring about such “Jahillyah” anymore than they can understand love, compassion, or human freedom.

        • Paul says

          Sep 21, 2015 at 12:00 pm

          @Peggy
          I’m sure that Iran will use its nuclear power to destroy
          Saudi-Arabia. The money that pays for the ongoing
          propagation of the Mahoundian cult in the West will literally
          go up in smoke. Good.
          Also, the money that the state continuously throws at
          Mahoundian parasites to reproduce like rabbits (no
          disrespect to rabbits) while praying to a dead child rapist’s
          alter ego 5 times a day will also eventually run out.
          What then?
          As I say, I think this speech about what is to come is one
          rooted in stone cold realism. It now looks like things will
          come to a head sooner. Sorry Mahoundians and leftists,
          you won’t win :

      • Westman says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 10:06 am

        Hi Graven,

        “bailing out of an uncertain FUTURE of hardship and starvation” – the smart ones with means get out while the “writing is still on the wall”.

        All that Allah Hooey Snackbar noise is a ritual mob chant to bring enough courage to do something the individuals fear. The Berlin wall was torn down by a chanting mob. The difference is the Muslim chant is supremist and by extension the “belivers” consider themselves in a supremist class while having no economic or developmental history to support it.

        Leaving the vicious justifications for violence in Islamic doctrine aside – Islam turns human life into ritual. Europe will be more damaged by having a rapidly expanding population of subsistence and ritual living than by the violence that also comes with this ideology.

        This is a hijrah that Germany encouraged and will likely regret. Ritualistic lives look for employment rather than creating job opportunities. The first crisis will likely be about inadequate employment and welfare abuse.

        As I wrote earlier, I could be completely in error here. It appears that Islam robs societies of their potential by turning people’s lives into ritual. Little art, music, innovation, poor habits of industry, etc are shriveled fruits of this ritualistic ideology.

        • Westman says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 10:30 am

          Sorry Graven, I didn’t answer about all the young men and few women and families. The young men are the most physically capable. This sounds harsh, but if women are considered “tilth” and posessions, why take the extra baggage? And if an older man with family it would make sense to make the journey, become the “anchor”, and then bring the family. This was common in the European migrations to America and Australia.

          Of course some of these young but older men have deserted their families.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 7:23 pm

          Westman, thanks for your considered reply. You wrote:

          Hi Graven,

          All that Allah Hooey Snackbar noise is a ritual mob chant to bring enough courage to do something the individuals fear. The Berlin wall was torn down by a chanting mob. The difference is the Muslim chant is supremist and by extension the “belivers” consider themselves in a supremist class while having no economic or developmental history to support it.
          ………………………………..

          Westman, I wouldn’t consider those who tore down the Berlin Wall a “mob”–people can act in concert without being an irrational mob.

          And I would *never* compare those freedom-lovers with this invading Muslim mob.

          Here are images–and as important in this context, sounds–from Eastern German demonstrations and scenes of the fall of the Berlin Wall:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R3LXXqbrjA

          You have laughing and cheering by demonstrators–as well as candle lighting and setting off fireworks.

          This is life-affirming stuff–*nothing* like the invading mob of Mohammedans today.

          You are quite right, though, about the nature of “Allahu Akbar!”–but it is not just supremacist–it is also aggressive, and is often used by Muslims waging violent JIhad.

          And the problem is that Muslims *don’t* consider this “hooey”–they take the war cry “Allahu Akbar” very seriously.

          More:

          Leaving the vicious justifications for violence in Islamic doctrine aside – Islam turns human life into ritual. Europe will be more damaged by having a rapidly expanding population of subsistence and ritual living than by the violence that also comes with this ideology.
          ………………………………..

          I’m no fan of unthinking ritual–but the violent and oppressive *nature* of this ritual is, to my mind, even more harmful.

          More:

          This is a hijrah that Germany encouraged and will likely regret.
          ………………………………..

          I could not agree more.

          More:

          Ritualistic lives look for employment rather than creating job opportunities. The first crisis will likely be about inadequate employment and welfare abuse.
          ………………………………..

          If the only problem we faced was a hard-working but non-innovative element, it might be something that could be addressed in a generation or two as immigrants received a Western education and were exposed to civilized Western norms. But unskilled employment or even living off the dole is the *least* of our concerns here.

          Jihadists have openly declared this a Muslim invasion of Europe–with the destruction of the West as its goal.

          More:

          As I wrote earlier, I could be completely in error here. It appears that Islam robs societies of their potential by turning people’s lives into ritual. Little art, music, innovation, poor habits of industry, etc are shriveled fruits of this ritualistic ideology.
          ………………………………..

          You are quite right.

          But worse than that, Islam’s goal is to to rob *everyone else* of their freedom, as well.

          More:

          Sorry Graven, I didn’t answer about all the young men and few women and families. The young men are the most physically capable. This sounds harsh, but if women are considered “tilth” and posessions, why take the extra baggage? And if an older man with family it would make sense to make the journey, become the “anchor”, and then bring the family. This was common in the European migrations to America and Australia.

          Of course some of these young but older men have deserted their families.
          ………………………………..

          In refugee crises, the *bulk* of those fleeing are vulnerable women, children, and old people–the fact is that here the vast majority are *military-aged Muslim men*.

          Most of these aren’t refugees–not in the sense we use the term, any more than yelling “Allahu Akbar!” is the same as chanting some variation of “tear down this wall!”

          Despite my differing with you on some points here, Westman, I much appreciate your lengthy and thoughtful reply to me. I hope you and yours are doing well!

      • Peggy says

        Sep 20, 2015 at 7:18 pm

        gravenimage says

        September 20, 2015 at 6:47 pm

        Hi, Quotha! Always good to see you posting–hope you are doing well!

        And I agree–while I do consider Peggy an ally in the fight against Jihad, her hatred of the free West is sometimes almost as pronounced as is her dislike of Islam. In fact, Russia is much more Anti-American than it is focused on opposing violent Jihad. Quite disturbing.
        ————————————–
        I don’t hate the west. I think the west is wonderful in many ways. What I do hate is western governments which are on a suicide mission, especially the US government. I have never said that I hate the west (people) but yes I have always said that western policies are wrong and dictatorial.
        Western govenrments are no less invasive than Russia. They are just very good at propaganda and they call invasions “humanitarian intervention”. The west doesn’t have any moral ground to lecture anyone.
        I know that seeing your country as it is can be painful and the desire to swallow their rubbish is there but to see other countries the way our governments want us to see is a bit naive. Russia is not a Communist country any longer and Obama is just as much a dictator as Putin.
        What about Bush and Clinton? Was Clinton a good president or did he attack a country to take it’s territory away from it and give it to Muslims or not? What do you call that? I call that invading another country which has absulutely nothing to do with you and forcing it to give it’s territory away to the enemy of all mankind. At least Russia was looking after Russians in Georgia and Ukraine. So who had more legitimacy?

        I am asking these questions because I want people to think about it a little. What has Russian government done that makes it worse than US government? Maybe it depends on which lives are worth more, Muslim lives or Christian livees like in the former Yugoslavia.
        So you see I don’t hate the west. I love the west and the wonderful way of life we have in the west. I just want to keep it that way and show people that Russia is not our enemy.
        We need to unite with Russia or we are going to have to fight on our own and even worse against Christians like the Russians.

        This would give our enemies enourmeous satisfaction. While we are fighting our own they are winning.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 9:03 pm

          Peggy wrote:

          I don’t hate the west. I think the west is wonderful in many ways. What I do hate is western governments which are on a suicide mission, especially the US government. I have never said that I hate the west (people) but yes I have always said that western policies are wrong and dictatorial.
          ……………………………….

          Certainly they have often been very naive and foolish–even suicidally so. Of course here, one has the right to criticize the government.

          More:

          Western govenrments are no less invasive than Russia. They are just very good at propaganda and they call invasions “humanitarian intervention”.
          ……………………………….

          When is the last time the West invaded a democracy? I must have missed that–I guess the propaganda here *is* good…

          More:

          The west doesn’t have any moral ground to lecture anyone.
          ……………………………….

          If one has no respect for human rights and freedom of the press this is *definitely* the case.

          More:

          I know that seeing your country as it is can be painful and the desire to swallow their rubbish is there but to see other countries the way our governments want us to see is a bit naive.
          ……………………………….

          Actually, free Westerners criticize their nation’s policies all the time. I have certainly done so many tines here at Jihad Watch.

          More:

          Russia is not a Communist country any longer and Obama is just as much a dictator as Putin.
          ……………………………….

          When has anyone said that Russia is still a Communist country? I said Russia under Putin is an *authoritarian* country.

          As for Obama, he might *want* to follow Putin’s example–but civilized Western law prohibits his either remaining in power (the prime minister/president sleight of hand would not be possible here, nor does he have as free a hand in imposing policy. I have no doubt he would be even more dangerous if such safeguards did not exist.

          More:

          What about Bush and Clinton? Was Clinton a good president or did he attack a country to take it’s territory away from it and give it to Muslims or not? What do you call that? I call that invading another country which has absulutely nothing to do with you and forcing it to give it’s territory away to the enemy of all mankind.
          ……………………………….

          There’s no doubt that the West has been terribly ignorant about the threat of Islam–all the more so back then.

          More:

          At least Russia was looking after Russians in Georgia and Ukraine. So who had more legitimacy?
          ……………………………….

          I suppose this is true if one believes it is the natural state of Russians to live under an authoritarian empire. Disturbingly, there are all too many Russians who appear to concur with this.

          And God help those who disagree–especially if they are principled journalists.

          More:

          I am asking these questions because I want people to think about it a little. What has Russian government done that makes it worse than US government? Maybe it depends on which lives are worth more, Muslim lives or Christian livees like in the former Yugoslavia.
          So you see I don’t hate the west. I love the west and the wonderful way of life we have in the west. I just want to keep it that way and show people that Russia is not our enemy.
          ……………………………….

          This is only true as long as the West gives Russia a free hand in invading and oppressing her neighbors.

          Sadly, right now the West has no more will in opposing this sort of aggression and defending democracy than it does in systematically opposing Jihad.

          More:

          We need to unite with Russia or we are going to have to fight on our own and even worse against Christians like the Russians.
          ……………………………….

          This may be true–just as we had to swallow our distaste and ally with the oppressive and sanguinary Soviet Union against the Nazis.

          Unfortunately–rather like Stalin’s playing footsie with Hitler–Putin has been *much* more predisposed to threaten and invade his democratic neighbors than he has been to oppose Jihad.

          While all too many Westerners appear to believe that since authoritarian Russia–like China–is not hampered by concerns over human rights and the rule of law, that they are hence uncompromising about opposing Jihad–the fact is that Russia has done a disturbing amount of appeasing and enabling Jihad. They are not, in fact, all that different from the West in this regard.

          Ramzan Kadyrov has Russian support–but has all but formally imposed Shari’ah law, and has stated his goal of making Chechnya “more Islamic than the Islamists.”

          http://www.barenakedislam.com/2012/05/17/russia-muslim-chechnya-embraces-sharia-and-honor-killings/

          Putin has largely supported Kadyrov–and has done *nothing* to reign in his imposition of Shari’ah.

          More:

          This would give our enemies enourmeous satisfaction. While we are fighting our own they are winning.
          ……………………………….

          I am not sure I would consider the dictatorial Putin “one of our own”. And the fact is that for good or ill we are *not* fighting Putin–but I know that you oppose even pointed criticism. Certainly, Mr. Putin does not like allowing it. Just ask journalist Alexander Litvinenko about that–oh, wait..

          As I noted, Islam is a *much* greater threat than is Islam at this time, and it would be unrealistic to think otherwise. But that does not mean that I feel duty-bound to wink at–or even justify–Russian aggression.

          As for the West, I intend to speak openly about what I consider our leader’s mistakes, as well as to do what I can to influence wiser policies. That might get me poisoned in some parts of the world.

          Despite these disagreements, I still consider us allies in the fight against Jihad–as bad as Russian authoritarianism is, it is nowhere near as bad as the bloody horror of Islam.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 9:07 pm

          Peggy, I should add one more thing–certainly, Jihadists consider Russians, and Western Europeans, and Americans in just the same light despite whatever differences and disagreements we might have.

          We are all “filthy Infidels”, and we are all targets.

          We *do* need to stand together against the Jihad threat.

        • Peggy says

          Sep 20, 2015 at 9:30 pm

          Hi graven,
          I can see that Rezali has upset you by writing all that rubbish. Please don’t let the likes of her upset you at all.
          People like her don’t deserve that much of your time. I take time to reply to people whose opinions I respect but either don’t agree with on that matter or I need to explain myself because of misunderstandings. I value your opinion and that’s why I try to explain why I write what I write. Razali doesn’t matter so her post doesn’t get any explanation.

        • Incek Mahallesi says

          Sep 21, 2015 at 9:17 am

          Peggy:

          “I don’t hate the west. I think the west is wonderful in many ways. What I do hate is western governments which are on a suicide mission, especially the US government.”
          __________________________________________________________________

          Well, there you have it, folks – the troll who hates our government, but doesn’t hate the west – that thing that bore the governmenf which “she” seeks to deride.

          I’ve been trying to tell you all for almost a year that this “Peggy” character is a Mohammedist troll, seeking to sow division any way it can – Russia, Serbia, etc., being its most favored topics.
          __________________

          Don’t be fooled. I’ve had this poster’s number for quite awhile, now. “She” pretends to be anti-Islam but makes bizarre comments against the West, which lead me to believe she is a Mohammedist.

  10. daniel sebold says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 2:59 am

    Why are these Sunnis running from the end-of-times Sunni Caliphate? In the end, Mehdi and Jesus will swoop down and save us all converting the world to Islam (As if my good ole Roman Catholicism wasn’t a big enough pain in the bum) . Why run from the Sunni ISIS? Almost all these folk are Sunnis. There are no Shiites among them. The Shiites are being decapitated. The impoverished Shiites don’t have the means to either leave or protect themselves. Only the wealthier Sunnis with their cute little English-speaking children are on the move.

    How would these Sunnis be a threat to the new Caliphate? How would it be in the best interest of Sunnis to kill Sunnis?

  11. Jay Boo says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 4:46 am

    Good Morning Muslim world.
    It is time to wakeup

    Muslims, I have:Two Questions
    1 – Do you believe I GOD?
    ___ Ok, Ok — hold on, there no need to stampede with your noisy “Allahu akbars”
    ___ I will take your word for that

    2. – WHY?

    Hello Muslims, are you still there?
    It sure is quiet.

  12. ed says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 5:50 am

    12,000 arrived in Austria in the last 24 hours ! british navy ferry service just landed 450 invaders in Italy overnight ,

  13. duh_swami says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 8:51 am

    Religious supremacist bigotry is breaking out all over, here, there, everywhere…
    Mahoundians have a vile version of it., brutal and murderous…The root of all religious supremacist bigotry is scripture…The house that Gabriel built is a house of cards, due to crumble under it’s own weight…But first they dance, the dance of death…not theirs, yours…There is only room for one religious supremacist bigot at the top…Religious supremacist bigotry cannot defeat religious supremacist bigotry, the winner will be a religious supremacist bigot…
    There are two basic ways to defeat Islam, brute force, and continually kicking away at the bottom cards of the house that Gabriel built…Islamophobia was invented to protect those bottom cards, because kuffar were doing too good of a job weakening them…Ignore that Islamophobia crap, and other negative labels the pious and stupid lay on you, and keep kicking at those cards…

  14. Nancy Assaf says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 9:36 am

    Where are all the women and children?

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 20, 2015 at 9:08 pm

      Good question…

    • Peggy says

      Sep 20, 2015 at 9:31 pm

      Probably at home being human shields.

  15. jayell says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 10:32 am

    Someone in a UK newspaper (or was it this site?) put it very clearly. This person commented that he had witnessed refugees at the end of some European conflict (possibly WW2), and (he observed) that they were thin, ill and tired and in no condition to behave like these thugs here. He also observed that they consisted of families, men & women of all ages and children whilst this lot are pretty well all young men who are aything BUT thin, ill and tired, and are very obviously in a perfect condition to be doing something constructive back in their own countries. My commentator didn’t say that the refugees he witnessed all that time back showed gratitude for the help they received, but I have heard from elsewhere that they usually did and I have never heard any reports of them throwing things back in their helpers’ faces. Add to that the evidence from the UN that barely 20% of these are actually from Syria (or any other genuine war zone) and we get a picture of this ‘colossal human crisis’ being more a ‘colossal con-trick’. I remarked some time back that this is beginning to look like it’s been organised since practically all these ‘refugees’ seem to be fit and well-prepared and well equipped with mobile phones, so with good communication – with whom?

    A gentleman named Mr. Nick Griffin, ex-chair of the British National Party, warned of this event some 15 or so years ago, and cited a book written well before that about a (then fictitious) mass exodus from the Middle East and Africa triggered (I believe) by some kind of climactic/environmental cause rather than a political one, but for all practical purposes the outcome was the same. I seem to recall that bottom line of the book’s argument was the ultimate destruction of Europe as a result of this event. Mr Griffin thought that global warming might be a factor that would bring this phenomenon about, but saw what he thought was the beginning of this train of events in the first trans-mediterranean ‘boat people’ about 5+ years ago and suggested at that time that, in our own interests, we should avoid adopting an openly accommodating attitude to them. He was howled down. of course (it was, and still is, de rigeur to howl down Mr. Griffin even though he’s been proved virtually 100% correct in everything he predicted!). Mr. Griffin was well aware of the evils of Islam and the intentions and actions of muslims, and was nearly imprisoned for saying what he thought, but I don’t think that he quite predicted this attempted orchestrated invasion (because lots of people are saying that this is what we are now witnessing, and that’s exactly what it looks like).

    What I cannot understand is the ostensibly well-intentioned but apparently naively-deluded idiocy of the ‘do-gooding’ liberal establishment here in the UK who (a) must be very well aware of the already well-documented dire consequences of having allowed a significant muslim presence into the UK but (b) seem to be impervious to clear evidence suggesting that this is NOT as it stands a genuine humanitarian crisis; or if there are genuine elements, it has been hijacked and exploited by forces with a different and sinister agenda, and (c) are deliberately, or negligently, or irresponsibly, endangering their own domestic communities and citizens by indulging their ‘humanitiarian’ instincts which, in this case (sadly) would appear to be grossly misguided.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 20, 2015 at 9:12 pm

      Good post, jayell.

      And I believe the book in question was “The Camp of the Saints”.

      You can download a PDF here:

      http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pdfs/camp_of_the_saints.pdf

  16. somehistory says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    I read a little bit of this news story: “Reporter Buys Forged Syrian Passport Marketed to Migrants Trying to Win Asylum in Europe. How Much Do You Think He Paid?

    A correspondent for the Daily Mail ”
    http://www.theblaze.com/…/reporter-buys-forged-syrian-passport-ma...

    According to the forger from whom the Daily Mail reporter bought the forged documents, he has made them for members of isis who are going to Europe and after a little time, will become isis fighters again.

    Evidently, the forger has a bunch of blank documents, fills in the blanks with the name of someone who died previously in Syria, attaches a photo of the person…non Syrian…buying the forgeries.

  17. Lasslax says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    Same shit, diffrent stink.
    Slovenia does the right thing – defending its border from this hordes, just as Hungary did the other day.
    I just hope they will not break down under the critics they will get for it.
    Go Slovenia!

    • Peggy says

      Sep 20, 2015 at 7:21 pm

      Yes, agree but what are we going to do about Turkey who keeps dumping them all onto Greece? Are we prepared to help Greece fight Turkey if Greece tries to send them back?
      If not then we can’t complain.
      We either tell Greece that we are behind them and will help them fight Turkey if need be or we just shut up and let it happen.

  18. Peggy says

    Sep 20, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    While all too many Westerners appear to believe that since authoritarian Russia–like China–is not hampered by concerns over human rights and the rule of law, that they are hence uncompromising about opposing Jihad–the fact is that Russia has done a disturbing amount of appeasing and enabling Jihad. They are not, in fact, all that different from the West in this regard.

    ———————————-
    Exactly. That’s my point exactly. Both Russian government and US government do what is in their interests and have no problem overlooking human misery when it suits them or even inflict that misery.
    Governments are the same all over but people as basically good so neither side has any moral ground to point fingers at the other.
    We as people have to overcome our governments’ faults and by the looks of things have to even revolt against them and unite against the common enemy. That’s why I keep trying to be the peacemaker between the two people. We have to stop seeing each other as evil because Russian government doesn’t represent Russian people any more than US government represents the people of the US.

  19. Peggy says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 9:43 am

    Incek wrote:

    Well, there you have it, folks – the troll who hates our government, but doesn’t hate the west – that thing that bore the governmenf which “she” seeks to deride.

    I’ve been trying to tell you all for almost a year that this “Peggy” character is a Mohammedist troll, seeking to sow division any way it can – Russia, Serbia, etc., being its most favored topics.
    ====================
    Could you get any more stupid?

    If you happen to love the US government then you are a Muslim because your government is run by a Muslim and in bed with Jihadists.

    What is wrong with you? Seek help.

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