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Why Arab Muslims refuse Arab Muslim ‘refugees’

Sep 24, 2015 2:06 pm By Raymond Ibrahim

While the West goes out of its way to accommodate Muslim migrants — still called “refugees” though most are not even from war torn Syria and some are Islamic State jihadis — an Arab Muslim from Kuwait recently explained why his nation refuses to take any.

Fahd al-Shalami

According to Kuwait’s Fahd al-Shalami, Chairman of the Gulf Forum for Peace and Security, Kuwait refuses to take Arab/Muslim refugees because, “In the end, you cannot accept other people — from a different background, from another place, who have psychological or neurological problems, or trauma — and just bring them into your society.”

Such are the words of an Arab Muslim concerning fellow Arab Muslims — the same ones the West is eager to accommodate.

Imagine the more commonsensical reasons Shalami could’ve given if Kuwait were not Islamic, and those trying to enter it were screaming Islamic supremacist slogans — as they do in the West?

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  1. Don McKellar says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    Here’s the big question: Why aren’t Merkel and all the rest down at the UN or using other venues to raise this issue? Why IN THE HELL are these rich arab moslem oil states NOT taking in their fellow arab moslems? Why isn’t this being put to Merkel and all the rest by the MSM? Why is this not a major scandal story?

    • Jacksonl03 says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 2:23 pm

      They’re smarter than we are: It’s ‘Cause they know how stupid it’d be. Besides that the more the Muslim world exports baby makers the sooner Muslims rule the world!

      • Katnis says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 4:34 pm

        sounds about right

    • katnis says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 6:39 pm

      It has been on the news. The richest arab countries are not taking any refugees in because:

      1. The refugees have a huge economic impact. They don’t want to spend any money on them.
      2. The refugees have terrorists among them. They don’t want to make their countries less safe.

      It’s pretty simple. Now that they see that Europeans are stupid enough to take them in, they can laugh all the way to the bank and sit back and enjoy the mayhem.

      • Allan says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 10:26 pm

        There’s a third reason:

        3. They would like Islam to spread across Europe. The Saudis are offering Germany money to build 200 new mosques in Germany for the Muslim “refugees.”

        • Jay Boo says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 12:18 pm

          German speaking Muslims who live in Germany have developed a very ingenious method of funneling full blown jihadis through the German screening process by coaching the Muslim maniacs to refrain from shouting Allahu ackbar, trim shaggy MO beards and remove head scarfs thereby (temporarily) disabling the Muslim’s jihad emission systems during the testing process allowing their jihad control system to engage automatically in the real world.

      • Jay Boo says

        Sep 25, 2015 at 10:51 am

        katnis
        You say that “It has been on the news”

        I have not heard NPR say a single thing about this even as they berate Europe on a daily basis for “not doing enough”

    • Marty says

      Sep 25, 2015 at 4:14 am

      The reason the obscenely rich arab states with plenty of spare land
      are not taking these “refugees” is simple.
      They constitute a massive invading army of land grabbers who
      have come to continue the conquest of Europe.
      The Saudis claim they won’t have them because they include
      terrorists.
      You bet they do. Paid for & trained by the Saudis.
      To prove the point, the Saudis are paying for 30 new mosques
      in Germany to accommodate the spiritual needs of the
      invading army.
      Within 25 years Cologne Cathedral will be a mosque.

    • STEVE says

      Sep 25, 2015 at 8:17 am

      No, the real question is not merkel as the rest of them asking why…but why isn’t this idiot pope asking, demanding that the richest (when compared to actual wealth to debt) countries on earth (the desert ass clowns in Kuwait, gutter, Saudi, oman and uae and the rest) that they all take them all in, now. Saudi has a 100,000 person empty tent city, air-conditioned, ready to go, but it just sits empty. Europe and the west are just stooges, with obumma getting what he wants in all of this, dead Christians and more muslims in the US and Europe. By the way, look at Sweden and the other netherland countries, they’re all but muslim now and short of revolt, it cannot be reversed. Britain is next, USA to follow.

      • Ronnie James says

        Sep 26, 2015 at 10:39 am

        Pope condemns greed large countries

        Vatican City itself has a rich economy relative to its size. Though data is scarce, and the exact GDP figure is unknown, the CIA estimates Vatican City’s 2011 revenue to be $308m. It only has a population of 800 people, meaning its nominal GDP per capita is $365,796 – making it the richest state on the planet by this measure.

    • TheBuffster says

      Sep 26, 2015 at 1:40 am

      “Why isn’t this being put to Merkel and all the rest by the MSM? Why is this not a major scandal story?”

      Because they know that even to ask the question as to why wealthy Muslim states are not taking their share of Muslim refugees is to risk being demonized as Islamophobic, since the very question implies that the possible answer might be “It’s too dangerous, even for us Muslim countries” or “It’s too expensive, even for us rich countries, and we don’t care that much about our fellow Muslims.”

      Asking the question might lead away from the “correct” viewpoint and thus put he who asks into the haram doghouse of Western journalism.

      Reporters today may be so conditioned by habits instilled by islamophobophobia that their minds automatically turn away from dangerous paths of inquiry. The dangerous questions may not even occur to them anymore.

    • Don Foss says

      Sep 26, 2015 at 10:26 am

      Two words. Political Correctness. Europeans operate on it and it has been implanted into their minds since birth and their formative educations. Arabs are the polar opposites. In this sense, they have a big leg-up on us.

  2. Joseph says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    TRANSLATION…..We do not want these dogs to shit on our lawns and sidewalks so we will have them shit on yours.
    Amazing how much crap the west will put up with. These *dogs* need to be sent back to shit in their own backyards. They like this type of crap….well then they should have to clean it up too.

    • Godwin says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 7:07 pm

      The Burmese monks used to call them rapid dogs.

      • Godwin says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 7:11 pm

        “rabies dogs” not rapid dogs..

        • steve says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 8:20 am

          You’re so close, one more time…how about rabid dogs?

    • Peggyh says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 7:26 pm

      They are not dogs. Dogs are beautiful, loyal creatures ready to give their lives for humans.
      You elevate them to the status of a dog when you say things like that.
      They are evil, barberic, killing plague.
      Unfortunately we will die of black plague if we don’t use tools at our disposal to eradicate it. Back then they didn’t have antibiotics to fight the plague but we do now so what’s the excuse?

      • Paul says

        Sep 25, 2015 at 8:36 am

        Indeed. I’ve never seen dogs going around raping and beheading.
        In fact, not even the wildest and most unpredictable creatures
        can be compared to them. All creatures have a part to play
        in the ecological system, whereas unnatural Muhammadans
        contribute NOTHING to this world. All they do is take, take, take,
        take, take, abuse others and feel sorry for themselves.

    • Paul says

      Sep 25, 2015 at 8:27 am

      While there’s a lot of resistance to the islamic invasion, there are
      still a lot of idiots out there. No matter HOW MANY times you remind
      them that ISIS PROMISED to flood Europe with jihadi psychopaths, that
      that drowned kid was living in Turkey in relative safety with his criminally
      negligent father, or that at least 80% of the ‘refugees’ aren’t even Syrian
      (even the UN admits this), not to mention their aggressive and supremacist
      behaviour “alcoholu snackbar”, the raping etc., they still won’t take any
      notice. I guess the lie they’ve happily sucked up is just too damned good,
      while they show the world what lovely people they are. “Sheeple”? – I think
      this term used by some is an insult to sheep. Nowhere else in the universe
      would you find such wilfully idiotic clowns and who are so absurdly proud
      of it.

  3. Rob says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    Ah Kuwait, the dear land.
    Weren’t they invaded and occupied by Saddam Hussein until the Western allies threw the Iraqis out. Wasn’t Bush senior vilified for not advancing right to Baghdad on that occasion and finishing the job?
    Later of course the Kuwaiti rulers when faced with their version of the Arab Spring, got Saudi forces in basically as mercenaries to put down the insurrection.
    What a lofty vantage point the Kuwaitis have!

    • Angemon says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 4:43 pm

      Rob posted:

      “Ah Kuwait, the dear land.
      Weren’t they invaded and occupied by Saddam Hussein until the Western allies threw the Iraqis out.

      Yes, after they trained the ambassador’s daughter to lie in front of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus.

    • Kepha says

      Sep 26, 2015 at 3:48 pm

      Well, the Kuwaitis had an unhappy lesson about Arab refugees. Back before Sodom Insane invaded them, the children and grandchildren of “an-Nakhbar” did all the real work for them. When Sodom Insane invaded, those poor, poor Palestinians showed their gratitude by collaboration with the occupation. Maybe this is why the Kuwaitis now prefer Indians and Filipinos and Thais to do the drudge work for them.

      Then again, if Arab Muslims can’t trust each other, who can trust them?

  4. Sue says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    Hmmm…..is this the new Mariel boatlift?

  5. Neil Jennison says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    I read and agree with all the above posts.

    I just cannot understand why Europe’s politicians cannot see the bloody obvious.

    I realise, that Joe Public ( is that John Doe in USA speak?) doesn’t understand Islam and thinks that Muslims think just like we do. But surely our leaders know the truth?

    I feel like Winston Churchill between the wars…..warning of what is blindingly obvious, but nobody is listening…….but obviously I am just a nobody, not an international statesman.

    European, western civilisation is committing suicide, slow suicide, before our very eyes.
    .
    It probably won’t come to full Sharia in my lifetime…but God help our children.

    • Joseph says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 6:04 pm

      ( is that John Doe in USA speak?)
      John Doe refers to an unidentified male body(person) both living and dead.
      Jane Doe is the female counterpart.
      Both of these are singular.
      I think the term you are looking for is John Q. Public.

      • voegelinian says

        Sep 25, 2015 at 12:33 pm

        Or “Johnny PC & Jane MC”

    • Peggy says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 7:32 pm

      I can’t understand why you can’t see the obvious.
      Our leaders know what is going on. They are not naive because a naive person cannot make it that far in politics. They have spy agencies and advisors telling them exactly what goes on. They know more about this than we do so why do you let them off the hook and still assume they are naive and can’t see the danger?

      They know. They created this mess for a reason. It’s you and I they want to get rid of, no them. You and I have enough intelligence not to be controlled fully. Only a barbaric “religion” can enslave so many so well and there is only one. It’s called Islam.

      Please don’t give these traitors any more benefit of the doubt.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 7:36 pm

        Our leaders know what is going on. They are not naive because a naive person cannot make it that far in politics.

        Not so. We live in a world infused with ignorance, willful, self-serving, hopeful, feel-good ignorance with a bold and rich body in its flavor, followed by a crisp tingly aftertaste of better-than-thou piety.

        I don’t Prez Barack Hussein, Secretary War Coward, Hillary or any of the rest of them, including all of the RINOs, except perhaps Dr Ben Carson MD, have a clue what’s going on. They actually believe the bullshit, they’re drunk on it, and they fully intend to act on it, expecting a good result on the other side.

        It’s a dark and chilling thought, but that’s what we have and where we are. It is a confused world here in InfideLand.

        • Peggy says

          Sep 24, 2015 at 8:49 pm

          You’re letting them off the hook now.
          Didn’t Ms Clinton lie not long ago which cost the US Ambassador his life? Was that ignorance or treason?
          Do you honestly believe that we are better informed than them? Do you believe that the likes ofr Robert Spencer who work tirelessly to bring us knowledge of this Cancer should know more than the traitors in government?
          Where does Robert Spencer get his information from that they have no access to? They have spy agencies and CIA and all other spy agencies which work with them to inform them. Does Robert have the luxury of such intelligence networks? No, and he still gets the truth so how can you still believe that they are naive?

          How can you still believe that they can’t see the danger? They ARE the danger.

        • Anonymous says

          Sep 24, 2015 at 8:54 pm

          You choose to assume less than the worst of politicians and the enabling elites who are actively bringing third world problems to your nations.

          Actions, not words are the surest measure of a person’s guilt or innocence. There is no excuse for them to not know, they have to know. This is a calculated move.

        • TheBuffster says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 12:39 pm

          Politicians can be just as blinded by ideology and wishful thinking as anyone else. The information they’re offered gets filtered through their PC lenses and the power of evasion.

          Was Neville Chamberlain a secret Nazi? How could he be so naive as to think the paper he had signed with Hitler meant “Peace in our time”? But I think that *was* what the poor bugger really believed.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 25, 2015 at 2:08 pm

          Well, well, well, what have we here…? A minor outbreak of a little discussion that the Counter-Jihad should have had years ago in a major way. Instead, with irresponsible rhetoric and/or no one taking notice, we have allowed this most exigent issue to fester mostly unspoken, ever-burgeoning between the lines but never blooming into the full light of analysis and debate between two tendencies in the Counter-Jihad: in Peggy, we have the tendency of the “Real Problemer” who sees a deeper problem behind Islam — the nefarious, evil Elites of the West who are trying to destroy their own West. Wwhy they would be doing this, what their end game would be, never seems to be fully explained, and logically the question would have to rest in the ultimate symbolism, Satan, for anything more pragmatic would not make sense, given the nature of the West’s enemy, Islam — unless tone hinks that the entire West is controlled by Marxist revolutionaries of the EXACTLY the same extreme degree as Carlos the Jackal, who in his French prison cell has converted to Islam and has had an epiphany that Marxist Revolution and Islamic Jihad are a wonderful union. Now, I don’t deny there exist evil Leftists in the West; but to magnify their power and role into controlling the West’s politics, news media, business, arts & entertainment, and academe, is going too far. There is the problem, for example, of how to explain innumerable Westerners — millions — who are not “Elites” and yet who swallow and regurgitate the same PC MC memes and who invest the so-called Elites with the sociopolitical influence they enjoy. In order to maintain the logic, one has to conclude that tens if not hundreds of millions of Westerners are stupid sheep and/or successfully brainwashed by mind-control techniques. Then there’s the question — when did this amazingly widespread crypto-dictatorship throughout the West begin? Was it always there? One could have recourse to the ever-lurking quasi-gnosticism latent in Christianity (but inhibited by reason cultivated by the mainstream churches over the centuries) which takes the Pauline “principalities and powers” symbolism to its ultimate extreme throughout all societies, all history. The assumptions necessary to sustain this overall scenario indicate a psychological break from reality.

          On the other side, unfortunately, the Counter-Jihad does not present a lucid, coherent, united front of a perspective (much less an actual platform flowing from that) to provide a rational antidote to that tendency that seduces the alienated and the disaffected among its rank and file. On this other side we have a mish-mash of tough talk and underlying nougaty softness, where the explicit (and fantasy-based) division indulged by the PC MC Mainstream — of Muslims into “Radical” and (apparently) “Non-Radical” — is continued in various muted forms obscured by tough-talking rhetoric that in turn irresponsibly indulges in simplistic Dastardly Leftist Elites rhetoric whenever adverting to the Problem of the Problem (i.e., the problem of persisting Western myopia to the problem of Islam).

        • Peggy says

          Sep 26, 2015 at 3:01 am

          TheBuffster says

          September 25, 2015 at 12:39 pm

          Politicians can be just as blinded by ideology and wishful thinking as anyone else. The information they’re offered gets filtered through their PC lenses and the power of evasion.
          ==========================
          Now who’s naive?

        • Jay Boo says

          Sep 26, 2015 at 3:20 am

          voegelinian

          Quite a psychoanalysis

          By any chance, do you keep a mirror by your keyboard?

    • Raja says

      Sep 25, 2015 at 1:35 am

      Neil, The politicians see beyond what you and I see..

      Let me put it hypothetically on politicians’ behalf:

      Hmm, ten years down the line they(Muslims) would have doubled in population(including fresh immigration),then in every city I have a guaranteed vote share of more than 25%. with the help of Leftists, morons and idiots I can easy sail through for more power for another decade.

      To hell with the nation/nation building !!! What harm have I done? you see, IN THE LONG RUN WE ARE ALL DEAD- John Maynard Keynes.

      Hope this sums up the picture/scan of the politician’s brain..

  6. gratification says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    Arab rulers are truthful when they are not accepting the Muslim refugees because they know their Muslim brothers will become terrorist very soon. They also know the majority of European leadership are stupid.EU leaders will not pay any attention to their publics cry.

    • Godwin says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 7:04 pm

      EU leaders are the useful idiots because of their Christian values. As I had said before, taking in great numbers of refugees is slow suicide.. NATO should create safe havens near oil fields in Libya n Syria for these refugees. The oil provides income to support the refugees. Block their routes to Europe n they will stay put in these safe havens or stop the idea of migration. Though this may not be popular but in this extreme situation call for extreme measure………..This is a WIN-WIN STRATEGY.

      • Sue says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 7:35 pm

        Eminently sensible idea. So sensible that no one will do it.

      • Kepha says

        Sep 24, 2015 at 7:46 pm

        No, European leaders are idiots because of their social democratic values. Most would willingly admit to being post-Christian.

        • deja vu says

          Sep 24, 2015 at 11:18 pm

          Well said, Kepha.

          This idea is widespread but only shows complete ignorance of what it means to be a genuine Christian as Biblically defined. With this in mind, how many European leaders would make the grade?

  7. peter says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    The European leaders are not stupid .They are getting these muslim migrants because it is cheap popularity and it comes handy in a few years when these so called immigrants vote for their party .They are ready to sell their mother’s for a silver. The public should realise that these immigrants will be a slow poison in the blood stream of their nation which wiill be slowly but surely destroyed, Shame on the politicians

    • Raja says

      Sep 25, 2015 at 1:12 am

      Peter,

      Thanks for your words of WISDOM, they say SO MUCH……..

  8. underbed cat says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    The Pope has arrived in NYC, the Cathedral was a commerical for cell phone technology, the news media was working hard for some comments on global warming, refugee concerns, collusion for spiritual diversity. What happens also is that Spencer informs his readers of a Muslim from Kuwait, ( a Chairman for the Gulf Forum for Peace and Security)who opens up with information that is so important to hear…that even the Pope should be informed. The partial answer to the rare question of the real need for this massive migration to Europe, Sweden, Britian, Belgium, Germany , United States of America, South America, when the Middle has the land, similiar faith, and tons of money. A truthful, (maybe dangerous) answer comes that they consider the muslim refugees of similiar faith dangerous, mentally disturbed and expensive , distruptive and exposes the drama, but still keeps the big secret this is a religious obligation that will through population birth explosion and jihad overrun these countries. So who will listen to Mr. Spencer spread the news??CNN, Fox, or Trump and Carson? This is so in your face, will some other Republican or Democrats deaf to objections and fearful that the diversity propaganda has been so successful, that they cannot be objective. Will they resist the potential jihadist due to the restriction of speaking about the facts that drive the doctrine…Will they acknowledge the refugees that need to arrive are Christian and Jews and they are not being accommadated? Maybe after the visit, maybe after the fires calm down, maybe they will begin to talk about the terrorist already here, denying links, denying terrorist camps, crimes, agenda has gone on too long. This is hijrah, it is never meant for peace.

    • underbed cat says

      Sep 24, 2015 at 10:26 pm

      Sorry the comment I wrote referred to Robert Spencer, when the writer was Raymond Ibrahim (another awesome writer)….my apologies. Eyes are open, vision not so good.

      Conflicted feelings of fear and sympathy for the people of the journey. I never thought the details could be so disturbing and aversive, confusing and jarring about a movement of faith, and dedication of praying and jihad, deception and history, kindness and insanity, strength in numbers striking fear and guilt and landing on a less solid, short history with methods that destroy with calm resolve. Hoping for less distraction, more reality and avoidance of uniformed decisions so we can seal off from an invasion of disruption and terror.

  9. mortimer says

    Sep 24, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    If Arabs see ‘other’ Muslims (from different countries and tribes) to be unassimilable, who much more are they unassimilable by Europe!

  10. afrostreetwise says

    Sep 25, 2015 at 5:52 am

    You scare me. Unfortunatiinately you are right when it concerns the muslim vermin. Here in Kenya we host over 1/2m somali muslims and used paid us back with with the westgate massacre by 4 suicidal muslim gunmen-all planned at kakuma refugee camp!. The president and his Deputy were do furious and wanted the camps closed closed. But the UN armtwisted the president into abandoning the plan. Thats understandable as we are a small country with budgetary support from the west and needs it to survive. Ofcourse we know the UN big wigs and their supporters would love the camps to continue indefinately aa that enriches them immensely.
    But as i understand it, the UN survival depends on the west. So Peggyh, again, whats the excuse now? Sick animals should at the very least be quarantined!

  11. duh_swami says

    Sep 25, 2015 at 7:09 am

    Not all Mahoundians like each other, not all Mahoundians trust each other…
    The super rich Mahoundian didn’t get that way by being stupid…
    The west is not stupid, just insane. Trading the farm for 30 pieces of silver is probably not a good idea…

  12. Truth Seeker says

    Sep 25, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Arab Muslim Countrie know the Migrants are Not Real Refugees, but Jihadis with the Mask of Refugee. Mission is to Islamise Europe. How this is possible, if they continue to stay in Arab World?
    Muslim Countries will Spend Lot of Money, even with All Their Might to see that these Migrants are Well Rooted in Europe and Carrying out Jihad Operations.
    It also may be noted that, Real Refugees won’t Dictate Terms and Conditions wit Host Country or attack their Citizens.
    Still European Countries Unconditionally Welcome them. This shows the Extent of Influence of Infiltrated Islamic Trojan Horses, in the European Countries’ Administration.
    Now it wont take much time for the Transformation of Europe to Eurabia.

    • Daniel Triplett says

      Sep 26, 2015 at 2:21 pm

      You nailed it.

  13. Islam is the nasty religion of peace says

    Sep 25, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    Why can’t these refugees be sorted at the gate to Europe, the Sunnis could be shipped to Saudi, the Shites to Iran, and let the christians be welcomed ..

    Saudi can build 200 mosks to put them in,, Iran could use the money they’re about to spend on a nuclear bomb, and the christians would live in peace, and no doubt be an interesting addition to the comunities of Eurpoe ..

    Put them on cruise liners, any that want to jump off in Suez on the way through are free to do so ..

    Of course you would have to convince the arab countries to create a social welfare system,,, (the real reason the refugees are streaming towards Germany Britian and the Scandianavion countries …),,

    • Kepha says

      Sep 26, 2015 at 3:53 pm

      No, the Christians would be villified as a blot on noble-minded Yurrup for believing that marriage is between one man and one woman for as long as both are alive.

  14. reyol says

    Sep 25, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    It is the water well in the desert ethics: the desert tribe that shares it’s well with another tribe will lose the well and die – even if there appears to be enough for two tribes. The Gulf states will not share their bounty with enemy tribes. For, the enemy tribes will be jealous and will try to seize the wealth. That’s the way of the desert. So, off to the land of Europe with those fellows. The Europeans are soft and kind; they will try to share and will not understand how the poor refugees came to be their lords and masters. Alas, the Gulf states will know.

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