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Argentine President: Obama Administration tried to convince us to give Iran nuclear fuel

Oct 1, 2015 2:54 pm By Robert Spencer

“Kirchner went on to say at the U.N. that when Samore was asked to provide the request in writing, all communications immediately ceased and Samore disappeared.” The Obama people knew that what they were doing was wrong, and would be hated by the American people.

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“Argentine President: Obama Administration Tried To Convince Us To Give Iran Nuclear Fuel,” by Taylor Tyler, HNGN, September 30, 2015 (thanks to Banafsheh):

Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner claimed Monday afternoon at the United Nations General Assembly in New York City that in 2010, the Obama administration tried to convince the Argentinians “to provide the Islamic Republic of Iran with nuclear fuel,” reported Mediaite.

Kirchner said that two years into Obama’s first term, his administration sent Gary Samore, former White House Coordinator for Arms Control and Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Argentina to persuade the nation to provide Iran with nuclear fuel, which is a key component of nuclear weapons.

Kirchner’s full remarks are as follows, per the Argentine president’s official website:

“In 2010 we were visited in Argentina by Gary Samore, at that time the White House’s top advisor in nuclear issues. He came to see us in Argentina with a mission, with an objective: under the control of IAEA, the international organization in the field of weapons control and nuclear regulation, Argentina had supplied in the year 1987, during the first democratic government, the nuclear fuel for the reactor known as “Teheran”. Gary Samore had explained to our Minister of Foreign Affairs, Héctor Timerman, that negotiations were underway for the Islamic Republic of Iran to cease with its uranium enrichment activities or to do it to a lesser extent but Iran claimed that it needed to enrich this Teheran nuclear reactor and this was hindering negotiations. They came to ask us, Argentines, to provide the Islamic Republic of Iran with nuclear fuel. Rohani was not in office yet. It was Ahmadinejad’s administration and negotiations had already started.”…

Kirchner went on to say at the U.N. that when Samore was asked to provide the request in writing, all communications immediately ceased and Samore disappeared….

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  1. miriamrove says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    What a disaster is Obama. m

    • Don McKellar says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 4:19 pm

      That goes without saying. And it has become a cliche to ask why he hasn’t been impeached and put on trial at this point. Likely it has something to do with his refusing to prosecute George the Idiot and Darth Vader Dick, and that bought him a whole lot of protection.

      • john forsman says

        Oct 2, 2015 at 8:30 am

        I’m sorry, who are the two you mentioned last?

        • Don McKellar says

          Oct 2, 2015 at 10:06 am

          The latter was the most evil and manipulative Vice President who ever lived, who used the idiocy of the former, who was the President he was under, to add great wealth for himself and his associates in the military industrial complex and the President’s ties in the oil industry. Together they sold Congress on a sham war, based on non-existent evidence, to remove a stable dictator who was keeping millions of moslems under control, while preaching an imaginary, glorious WIlsonian democracy for the country. A sort of forced Arab Spring if you will. Thereby costing America billions and billions of dollars and many lives of good people and accomplishing nothing.

          Obama’s first move when coming into office was to absolve these evil men, making a big show of refusing to prosecute them and moving on in a positive way — thereby buying himself a lot of protection for his future evil deeds in the name of Islam, and the proper Arab Spring began and now we are where we are.

          See how this game works?

      • RG says

        Oct 2, 2015 at 11:41 am

        @Don McKellar. Have it your way, Don. I couldn’t disagree more! Don’t forget President Bush had the uncompromising support of Congress (to and including Hillary Clinton) as well as the full support of our foreign allies. Hind sight is always 20/20. In light of the previous 9/11/01 disaster and given the cards he was dealt, I’d say George Bush made some extremely courageous decisions to put Saddam Hussein out to pasture. Could he have done some things differently? Yeah, no doubt, but Iraq was on the road to a truly “stable” government when Bush left office. Barry came along and made quick work of destroying any semblance of stability in that region in one fell swoop by creating a complete power vacuum! At least George Bush acted with America’s best interest in mind, which came at no small cost to our military–but then, whoever said Freedom was free?? To me that’s a great deal more than I can say for the current imposter who now occupies the White House. You guys really need to get over blaming George Bush for everything from Aids to the crisis in Zimbabwe. Sometimes I really take these things personally, Don. Do you really believe Al Gore would have done things better??? Good luck with that!!!

        • RonaldB says

          Oct 2, 2015 at 2:18 pm

          RG,

          You’re going to have to learn to not take discussion of policy differences personally.

          There was evidence at the time, since shown to be doctored, that the Saddam Hussein regime was holding weapons of “mass destruction” i.e., World War I-vintage stores of poison gas, which because of their chemical components are put in the same category as thermonuclear weapons.

          But, deposing Hussein was not the big loser: it was the “nation-building” that the US undertook in Iraq, utterly demolishing the Iraqi army, police, and civil government. We then installed our own puppet in a non-functional government that was supposed to bring democracy to an Islamic country.

          If we had just deposed Hussein, and left at that point, another general or dictator would have filled his place, and no big deal. But, that is exactly where the very limited attention span of George W. Bush became a major liability. Paul Bremer, the American governor in Iraq after the invasion, was given a free hand, and no intelligent oversight or guidance. So, the Islamic, criminal, and Iranian gangs were free to blow up Iraqis and US soldiers. We lost far more soldiers in the “nation-building” occupation than in the initial conquest.

          All the histories of George W. Bush expose that fact that he was utterly bored by, and pretty much indifferent to, discussions of policy. His invasion of Iraq was mostly motivated by the fact that Hussein had conspired to assassinate George H W Bush, George W Bush’s father. That is reasonable grounds for invading and deposing Hussein, but not for the disastrous occupation of Iraq.

        • RG says

          Oct 2, 2015 at 4:08 pm

          @RonaldB. As I said, yes, of course GW could have done some things differently. I doubt very much if he wouldn’t be the first to admit that! What I do know beyond all doubt is that no other president since George Washington ever had to deal with a foreign invasion of such magnitude right here on our own turf. Everybody, but everybody was urging him to do ‘something’. And yes, it’s totally unrealistic for people to assume that Saddam Hussein didn’t have a stockpile of WMD when he was given numerous opportunities to allow the UN inspections, but refused to allow it even under threat of a US invasion. I mean, exactly how hard would it have been, given all of the ample time and opportunities that he was given, to simply transfer his stockpiles to Syria or Iran??? I’d say that was a very real possibility, wouldn’t you? Did GW have some people on his team who bungled things? Maybe so! Was it wrong to attempt to install a democratic government in Iraq with a loyal military to enforce US policies? Well, if so, then how was that an inferior solution to what BHO has done in deserting our post in Iraq and abandoning those who actually started to believe in us? You raise some interesting questions, but I don’t know that you, or I, have all the answers, and as such I doubt very much that either one of us would have done things any better. As for your assertion that GW was primarily motivated by a grudge emanating from his father’s presidency, that’s a bit of a stretch, I would say. What troubles me most about your opinions concerning George W. is that you, like the myriads of other ‘Bush bashers’, assume that you can see inside the man’s head and you know WHY he did what he did. I’m not that smart, RonB. I only know that, by hook or by crook he, President George W. Bush, managed to keep the terrorists at bay, so long as he was in office (8 long years). That’s an accomplishment that I, for one, refuse to view with eyes of suspicion!!!

      • bill walker says

        Oct 2, 2015 at 5:21 pm

        Regardless of your Bush explanation, Bush 2 s presidency will go down in history as being the worst in history. No other president comes close to his stupidity or arrogance. He brought America to the very brink of another great depression, equal to or worse than the one I grew up with.

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Oct 2, 2015 at 8:02 pm

          Seriously Bill? You think Obama is a better President than 43?

        • RG says

          Oct 3, 2015 at 3:29 pm

          @Daniel Triplett. Danke schòn, mein Freund! Du bist sehr klug! Thanks, my friend! You’re a smart man! MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!!!! Will someone please tell me why people incessantly dump everything from the snake in the Garden of Eden to the Battle of Armageddon on GW’s plate???? Doesn’t anybody have any recollection of how Pelosi and Reed fought the Bush Admin tooth and nail to hinder his every move. And then you have that renegade mayor from NOLA, Ray Nagan, who, himself caused most of the hindrances to his own people for vacating hurricane Katrina! You wanna really hear the real truth–MOST OF GEORGE BUSH’S NAYSAYERS WERE INSPIRED BY THE G-DAMNED FRICK’N MUZZIES WHO WOULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING TO DESTROY HIM!!!!! And all the left-tards jumped right on the bandwagon!!!!!

          So exactly how do people stack that up against a “commander-in-chief” who now refers to the “57 STATES OF AMERICA” and the Marine “CORPSE”!!!! Mind you, he repeated that THREE TIMES in the same paragraph–MARINE CORPSE, MARINE CORPSE, MARINE CORPSE and was never the wiser to correct himself! Oh, yeah, I could go on….. These ‘Bush haters’ really need to GET A LIFE!!!!! Geez, maybe Obama really does have the right idea in GIVING Iran the bomb–it might just eliminate some of the idiots out there!!!!!

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Oct 3, 2015 at 9:42 pm

          @RG

          Thanks for the note. I forgot to hit the “Reply” button, so my reply to you appears on the next page.

          Dan

    • john spielman says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 5:53 pm

      The obamanation is not just a disaster, he is a TRAITOR as well!!

    • particolor says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 4:59 am

      I wouldn’t give them Fuel for a Metho Stove !! 🙁

    • quotha raven says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 11:54 am

      Why no quotation marks around:

      Kirchner went on to say at the U.N. that when Samore was asked to provide the request in writing, all communications immediately ceased and Samore disappeared….

      ??? If she said it, why not quote her? The lack of an actual quote (which sticks out, as the rest of her remarks are IN quotes) and the craziness of this woman seriously diminishes the credibility of this story.

      Cheers!

      quotha r

  2. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 2:58 pm

    Cristina should cut back on the hair dye and eye makeup. Socialistas are supposed to be earthy. She can take the money freed up from cosmetic outlays and help pay back the many billions in debt Argentina has shirked. It wasn’t that long ago that the country was one of the richest on the planet. Argentina stands as an object lesson that socialism does not work. To invoke Margaret Thatcher, it was later rather than sooner, and they ran out of other people’s money.

    • Miao Zedong says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 4:33 pm

      Rrrright. In your face.

      Argentina is not in the privileged situation of devalutated its own currency and with that to cut their debts as the US did and does, while the demand for dollars is kept high as it is “the” currency in the oil industry.

    • Tom Davis says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 6:28 pm

      “Socialistas are supposed to be earthy.”

      Not in Argentina. Remember, that is the country that socialized cosmetic surgery.

      • Laura says

        Oct 2, 2015 at 6:59 pm

        No, that would be Brazil!

    • Sergio says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 5:08 am

      What on Earth does that has to do with the article? Are you Obama?

    • Peggy says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 6:12 am

      What does that have to do with the article?

  3. Budvarakbar says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    He was an emissary from Val J. — and I’d bet with full knowledge and ok from the hildabeast

  4. gfmucci says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 3:05 pm

    Let’s start a discussion. Why would the Obama administration do that?
    Why would the Argentina administration reveal that now?

    • Allah Fubar says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 3:46 pm

      I have no answers, but have the exact same questions.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 3:58 pm

      From Obama’s perspective, to show that he did indeed try to find sources for alternative nuclear fuels for Persia’s putatively peaceful nuclear development program so they would no longer need to have their own cyclotrons. It’s a cover story for an administration that has seen dozens of cover stories sold successfully on TV. From Kirchner’s perspective, Argentina needs the credit. Bad. Real bad. And now.

    • Don McKellar says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 4:21 pm

      My big question is: Do they have any proof that this happened that would stand up in a court of law so Obama can be prosecuted?

    • Azacque says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 1:45 am

      Oviously Obama wants Israel destroyed and wants to serve Muslims ahead of Americans.
      You guys don’t need 10 thousand muslim jihadists disguised as refugee’s.

  5. Angemon says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    Kirchner went on to say at the U.N. that when Samore was asked to provide the request in writing, all communications immediately ceased and Samore disappeared…

    He knew what he was asking and its implications.

  6. John C. Barile says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 4:23 pm

    Unbelievable!

    But then again, the entire course of negotiations and a final agreements with Iran are unbelievable.

    • John C. Barile says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 5:06 pm

      Now I get it. The Obama administration also pitched this request to France and to Russia. The idea is, if Iran was given enriched uranium, or low-grade uranium were enriched for them, then Iran had no excuse for developing uranium-enriching capabilities of its own. Oil-rich Iran claims that it needs to enrich uranium to produce nuclear fuel, which is nonsense. It is evident to any rational observer that Iran wants to enrich uranium to produce nuclear weapons. It want enrichment capacities to become global, nuclear-armed power.

  7. Sam says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    Would that surprise me? No. Even if this story is true we will not hear about it again. Any bets?

  8. Steve says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    Charlie Daniels said it best, when he called the Iran deal “Fast and Furious on Steroids”. Obama wants them to have (and use) nukes – in a twisted, misguided desire to turn world opinion against nuclear weapons. Millions are expendable to further his no-nukes ideology.

    • Aton says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 5:23 am

      Obama is probably an eschatologist, just like President Armadinnerjacket was, and the present incumbent of Iran is.

      The twelfth Imam (the Mahdi) cannot come to Earth until Armageddon has destroyed all of humanity (apart from the chosen few). And so the goal of the eschatologist is to start a nuclear war, to bring this about. And this is exactly what Obama is trying to do – to start a nuclear war.

      .

      Before the Mahdi can come, there must be terrible wars. There is a great shout in the skies, and a great fire in the skies. And the great Army of the Sufyani, that arose in Damascus and fly the black flag, will be destroyed.

      So you can see the world from the Shia eschatologist viewpoint. The End of Times is here (a favourite theme in the Koran). But before the 12th Imam can come, there must be wars (against Israel), nuclear explosions that shout in the skies and set the skies alight, and then the army of ISIS under the black flag must be destroyed……

      Aton

  9. andy says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    Kirchner and the Argentinian Govt are bad people and can not be trusted. I dont like Obama but I don’t believe this either.

  10. underbed cat says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    I wish the focus would change from Hillary ( former 1st lady) to her boss, and his hand picked mb admiinistration and friends. This is the problem. Hilliary had emails but her staff and others with another mind set may have used her unknowingly. Republicans wake up.

    These are serious allegations that the Argentinian government have exposed. Nothing happens by accident. From travelers with messages to North Korea or China or Russia….or Iran. This is a disaster, and it is speeding up at incredible rate.

  11. DonaldTrumper1 says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    Liberals in America are too stupid to hate Obama for his lies and treason.

  12. Transmaster says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner is a complete wacko bitch. Blames Argentine’s problems on Spain who holds much of Argentine’s debt. Rails again the UK over the Falkland Islands. Continues the covered up of Islamic source of the suicide bombing attack on the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires in 1992, and when a state prosecutor had evidence of her duplicity in the cover up was murdered. I have no doubt Obama did what she said because he wanted an agreement at all costs. But is shows just how much of an incompetent this fool is when he approached a back stabber like Fernandez with the question.

  13. Wellington says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    Oh, this is rich. A foolish leader (Kirchner) calling out an even more foolish leader (Obama).

    Yes indeed, folks. Can’t make this stuff up, which is one of several reasons why to this very day I continue to prefer history to fiction.

  14. Bezelel says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    I wondered what happened to Tammy Fay. Add nuclear fuel to Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Arming ISIS via the Iraqi army, yada yada and he still wants to revoke the 2nd Amendment for US citizens because we have some mentally disturbed people running loose so his solution is to treat us all like we’re mentally disturbed by disarming us in the face of importing mentally disturbed people from the ME and Mexico and invites mentally disturbed kids who take fake bombs to school to visit the WH. Cool? NOT.

  15. Baucent says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    It’s a curious claim, like to see some evidence. We already know that Argentina and Iran have a cosy relationship. The attack on the Jewish Synagogue was probably carried out by Iranian operatives, but Argentina won’t say that.

  16. JayT says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Uh, no. On this one I’m going with that adage, “Consider the source.”

    I can’t stand Obama and I voted against him with no hesitation. But this Christina is a nut in search of a fruitcake to embed herself in.

    I watched her on CSPAN when they had the Ebola discussion, and when it came to her turn, she started to go off topic almost immediately, then began focusing on her alleged assassination plots by the U.S. (borrowing a page from the late Hugo Chavez) and then in the end just degenerated into ranting and raving while the other world leaders had to maintain a poker face. Ugh. I don’t take anything she says to heart since I don’t know if she is on her usual orbital trip to space or not.

  17. luis says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    does foxnews knows about this if not please help

    • bill walker says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 5:33 pm

      Anyone foolish enough to expect news from FAUX without a GOP slant deserves to be lied to.

  18. Rikki H says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 4:45 am

    Its unbelievable that we’ve allowed Iran to become a nuclear power in the first place. We had plenty of notice. Didn’t Obama say at one point that “military action against Iran has not been ruled out”?
    What BS!
    Congratulations Obama, you’ve now allowed possibly the most powerful Islamic Republic in the world to become a genocidal threat to Israel (perhaps that was the intention who knows).
    If Iran ever nukes anyone, Obama should be tried and executed for war crimes.

    • particolor says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 5:06 am

      Why would ANY Country want Nuclear Weapons ?? They are Worse than Useless ! A Scorched Planet is no good to anything !! 🙁

    • Dude says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 3:08 pm

      This is NOT just Obama looking to give Nukes to the Iranians. Kerry, Reed, Pelosi Debbie Wasserman-Schultz – essentially the ENTIRE Democrat Party has been wildly in favor of this idea since day 1. The only exception has been Bob Menendez, and the Obama DOJ started an Official Criminal investigation on him for things from 10 yrs ago just as soon as he opened his mouth.
      The best reasoning I’ve seen for this outpouring of support for a Nuclear-armed Iran is that Defense Industry spending, and thus profits (and thus Campaign Contributions) will go up geometrically, since the Saudis will need to be able to Counterbalance the Iranians, and the Israelis will need to ramp up to be able to oppose Both the Iranians and the Saudis. The Democrats have bought into this plan in a big way, with seemingly little thought to the consequences.

  19. Aton says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 5:24 am

    Obama is probably an eschatologist, just like President Armadinnerjacket was, and the present incumbent of Iran is.

    The twelfth Imam (the Mahdi) cannot come to Earth until Armageddon has destroyed all of humanity (apart from the chosen few). And so the goal of the eschatologist is to start a nuclear war, to bring this about. And this is exactly what Obama is trying to do – to start a nuclear war.

    .

    Before the Mahdi can come, there must be terrible wars. There is a great shout in the skies, and a great fire in the skies. And the great Army of the Sufyani, that arose in Damascus and fly the black flag, will be destroyed.

    So you can see the world from the Shia eschatologist viewpoint. The End of Times is here (a favourite theme in the Koran). But before the 12th Imam can come, there must be wars (against Israel), nuclear explosions that shout in the skies and set the skies alight, and then the army of ISIS under the black flag must be destroyed……

    Aton

  20. Dave De La Rond says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 5:49 am

    This is the same Kirschner who has over 500 Iranian Basij secret police in her country running her security for sea ports and trains.Anything that comes from this witch’s mouth is a lie .She has bankrupted her country and her family has stolen billions.Her son and daughter have been living in a 8 million dollar villa in Tenerife ,Canary Island for the last 2 years ,preparing her retirement .

  21. shortfattexan says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 7:50 am

    Cristina Kirchner is most emphatically NOT a reliable source.

    While her story is indeed plausible, the fact that she is making this claim means exactly nothing.

    Conservatives often fall into the trap of thinking that, since Obama appears to hate America and love America’s enemies, the leaders of America’s enemies must therefore love Obama. But that’s not true – they may see him as a useful idiot, but they still hate him just as much as they hate the rest of America.

    • Sergio says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 7:58 am

      What the hell are you talking about? Why would us, Argentineans, hate Americans? Paranoia at its best.

      • Tom Davis says

        Oct 2, 2015 at 8:24 am

        Kurt Vonnegut answered that question very well a half century ago. It’s not that most people hate Americans, it’s that most people hate most people, and Americans have to learn to pay the price of being people. Americans don’t want to.

        • Sergio says

          Oct 2, 2015 at 8:38 am

          As an Argentinean, I don’t hate the people from the USA. I don’t particularly like the American foreign policies, but, after all, who does? Cristina is half crazy, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she were telling the truth. Obama has always supported Islam and even wears a ring that has the first part of the Muslim confession of faith inscribed on it. It does not take a genius to realize that he feels a deep sympathy for everything that is Islamic.

  22. deon rodden says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 8:05 am

    We who have not given our brains over to the intoxicating affects of liberalism and demonic control already knew this Mrs’ President but thank you bringing it to the attention of the whole world.Let us see what they do about it but do not expect anything good from them most of them suffer from the same state of liberalism.It is dreadful and deadly to all inhabitants of Earth.

  23. David says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 10:22 am

    This is the same woman who ignores the democratic right if the falkland uslanders to self-deterimination and has been on record making up lies to support her iwn agenda

  24. Richie says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 10:41 am

    In a sane time and place such would not only warrent impeachment but also criminal charges of high treason

  25. aaron says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 10:57 am

    Hussein Obama, the WORST president ever elected. Because of his policies police officers have died across the nation. He should be impeached and removed from office.

    • bill walker says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 5:39 pm

      Bush 2 & Cheney would both be wearing orange jumpsuits as convicted war criminals if Nancy Pelosi had done her job as Speaker & initiated impeachment against them.

      • RG says

        Oct 6, 2015 at 7:03 pm

        @bill walker. Hey bill, I really hate to inform you of this but just incase you haven’t caught a downward draft yet, that’s not HAY in that wagon that you’re riding in…..

  26. Jeremiah says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 11:07 am

    When will Obama be arrested for treason?

  27. quotha ravenp says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 11:47 am

    What I don’t like about this article is the lack of quotation marks around this:

    Kirchner went on to say at the U.N. that when Samore was asked to provide the request in writing, all communications immediately ceased and Samore disappeared….

    If she said it, why not quote her? Unfortunately this, as well as the crazy woman’s reputation, subtracts most, if not all, credibility from the report for me.

    Cheers!

    Quotha R

  28. Karl sonne says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    Sounds to me like Obama was seeking to provide Iran with a supply of ‘benevolent’ nuke fuel for the Iranians so they could regularly submit samples to the IEAE of fuel to show they were good boys and girls.

    Make no mistake – Obama’s treachery is limitless. Assume crash position!

  29. Edward says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    [Sergio says] Posted for this article’s comment thread:

    October 2, 2015 at 8:38 am]

    “Obama has always supported Islam and even wears a ring that has the first part of the Muslim confession of faith inscribed on it. It does not take a genius to realize that he feels a deep sympathy for everything that is Islamic.” – Sam Says

    And here is the undisputable evidence of our POTUS personal allegiance and why has America been oblivious ……absent minded at its prospects of being HAD? This possibility has been forged already to be manifested as a reality!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

    We all have been mesmerized by unknown forces…… and this is about time we put more interest to find out who is pulling the lethal strings, OK!

    • Edward says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 3:49 pm

      Additional addendum :

      This critical situation has been festering since President Reagan’s tenure.

      More about this on this video:

  30. Vicki says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    W H Y ???? are we JUST NOW hearing about this???
    W H Y ???? FIVE years later???

  31. Cartimandua says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    I don’t like or have any use for this woman, but I would like to see some proof.

  32. Daniel Triplett says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    @RG

    Thank you for the compliment Sir. My ex-wife should listen to you.

    I too get sick of people slamming GWB. Was he perfect? No. Did he make some mistakes? Yes. But the man loved America, and he kept us safe.

    I served under him for 6 years as a USAF Officer/pilot, all of my war experience. He was near universally loved by all of us in the military, because he genuinely loved us. I would have done anything that man asked me to do.

    I was in Baghdad on Thanksgiving 2003. The base commander called all of the officers into a meeting hall for what was described as a mandatory routine meeting. None of us really wanted to be there; we wanted to be Skyping with our families.

    We were sitting down listening to the base commander open things up with a Thanksgiving invocation, when he said, “It’s tradition to have the Senior Ranking Officer (SRO) perform the invocation. Who do we have here who is the Senior?”

    At that point, 43 surprized us, coming from around the curtain to the lectern. The whole room exploded with screaming. Every grown man in the room was in tears, including the President. This went on for 5 minutes before he was able to talk. Afterward, he walked the room, hugging every person there. Then he personally served dinner to everyone in the chow line.

    That’s just one of many stories. Can you imagine Caliph Ohammad doing that?

    I know lots of Secret Service, and they loved 43 too. He remembered their childrens’ birthdays, and worked the BBQ himself on Sundays, serving the burgers himself. That’s the kind of guy he was. And have we ever had a finer FLOTUS than Laura?

    Saddam was in violation of a laundry list of UN Resolutions described below, the most disturbing of which was he refused to allow our inspections.

    http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/State/state-iraqres-032003.htm

    I’ve attended over 1500 Intel briefings, and I’ve seen lots and lots of classifed sattelite photos. They were not altered. The photos don’t lie. That people would believe there was a giant conspiracy to fool the entire military with hundreds of falsified satellite photos is just plain stupid.

    Do Americans believe 100% of our military officers are fools? Because we all believed the briefings. Not just us mind you, but as you stated, all heads of state, including most of the Demoncraps on Capitol Hill believed them too.

    Without getting into too much detail of Secret Intel, I can tell you I saw pictures of fleets of tractor-trailers pulling up to weapons plants before scheduled inspections. Then after the inspectors left, the trucks would return.

    I’ve also seen pictures of a squadron of Mig jets buried in the dirt with the tips of some of their tails sticking out of the sand.

    You’re right, all of those delay tactics gave Saddam plenty of cover to move all of his contraband to Syria or bury it, which is what most of us believed he did.

    Hindsight is 20/20, but ANY POTUS would have been derelict in duty had he not responded to that threat on his desk.

    Not only was there the WMD and UN viloations issue, but Saddam also had his troops fire upon our jets patrolling the N and S No-fly Zones OVER 800 TIMES PER YEAR! So what was 43 supposed to do about that? Just let it continue unanswered, like a bunch of pussies? Any ONE of those incidents was justification for kicking Saddam’s ass completely out of power.

    We don’t have time to get into all of the many mistakes that happened afterward, such as disbanding their government, military, and police. Of course, we should have just forced a change of their allegiance, and let them keep their jobs.

    But in 2009, Iraq was a fairly stable place. As long as Islam exists, Iraq was never going to survive without our supervision. So when BHO foolishly abandoned them, the results were completely predictable.

    For those who believe we can solve the Islamic problem without nuclear weapons, that means we need a lot of forward basing from which to launch our missions into the inevitable upcoming war with Iran, along with keeping the peace in Iraq.

    The conventional military solution requires us to also keep forward basing in Afghanistan, thereby sandwhiching and isolating Iran. But Obama has eliminated these options for us.

    I have never believed a conventional military solution will work in our War against Islam. We don’t have enough gold or military to invade/occupy every Muslim sovereignty on the planet.

    But what was GWB supposed to do? Go straight to my solution of using nukes to solve the problem? America would have been comdemned by the World.

    So he likely felt as though he had to give the (doomed) Democracy solution a chance first as Plan A, and place American troops in a very unstable part of the World indefinitely. That region has 2/3 of the World’s oil, and we simply can’t stay hands off and entrust our futures to madmen who want us dead. We need oil to survive, and people who want our extermination have no business controlling all of it.

    But now that we’ve tried Plan A, and see that it’s an untenable failure, it’s time to go to the Plan B nuke option that I’ve described many times. In brief:

    Ally with all other nuke states and begin Worldwide re-education campaign, encouraging, but not forcing, Christianity. But making Apostasy from Islam mandatory.

    Objective: Worldwide criminalization of Islam, making it a capital offense.

    Day One: Nuke strike on all Iranian nuke production facilities, the Pakistani nuke arsenal, and Raqqa.

    Then wait three days, letting the horror soak in for the Muslims, giving them an opportunity to criminalize Islam. If they resist, we strike one random Muslim population center. Then three days later one more. Repeating this process until every Muslim goverment surrenders Islam. This wouldn’t take long.

    Every Muslim government who surrenders Islam is removed from targeting, getting to keep their power, territory, and resources.

    Those who resist watch their cities get vaped one at a time until they can no longer resist. Then the Allies divide up their territory, install our own governments, and exploit their resources for ourselves.

    This is exactly how our grandfathers would do it, because it works. Let’s get busy.

    One more thing for those who think Operation Iraqi Freedom was simply a revenge exercise for 41. I don’t believe that for a second.

    Mark Steyn wrote a book called “America Alone.” Written in 2005, Steyn brilliantly described the entire Islamic problem: Birthrates, jihad, hijrah, the future…everything we all know and fear today. GWB read this book, and it had such profound influence on him that he insisted every member of his National Secrity Team read it.

    So, like you said, none of us are mind readers, but it you read “America Alone,” and I highly recommend every non-Muslim human read it, we can get a very good idea about what the President was thinking, and why he did what he did.

    • HumbleAmerican says

      Oct 4, 2015 at 12:03 pm

      So your saying Nuke the Islamic states that won’t renounce Islam, and make Islam a criminal offense? I can see why you like GWB, you sound like you might be related. Guess you still believe that building 7 fell because of the other 2 towers falling on 9/11? Military humans are so brainwashed, and you are living proof.

      I understand your FEAR of Islam, but have you ever met a peaceful Muslim? I ask, because America has millions of them.

      There are extremist in every religion, and you need to wake up from the military propaganda. I know, with your military background, your aware that America funded ISIS, Hillary Clinton slipped and made that public, and it’s never been disputed by republicans.

      I appreciate your service, and defending our country, but you stated that Bush kept us safe. I ask this, do you think the over 3 thousand that died on 9/11, and the soldiers that died in the wars feel safe?

      • Richie says

        Oct 4, 2015 at 3:27 pm

        you say that there are “millions” of peaceful muslims here in America, but don’t you find it strange that none of them publicly denounce the atrocities that the radical islamists perpetrate?!
        all’s you hear from the “peaceful” ones is utter silence…..nothing…..crickets……where I come from silence is permission. Seems to me @HumbleAmerica you are the one who is brainwashed and ignorant too!

      • quotha raven says

        Oct 4, 2015 at 7:19 pm

        to HumbleAmerican – your remarks are so simplistic, uninformed, thoughtless and UNRESPONSIVE and that they don’t even deserve a reply, but here’s mine, anyway: PFPFPFFPFPFPFPFPFPFFFFTTT! That, fyi, is what they call a Bronx cheer. Also, I suggest that you that you change your moniker to “SubmissiveDhimmi”. “DimDhimmi” will do for a nickname.

        Cheers –

        quotha r

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Oct 4, 2015 at 9:35 pm

        If you’ve spent much time reading Robert Spencer on this site, along with the many wise regular contributors in the Comments Section, and you still speak like this, then there’s nothing more I can do to help you. You’re hopeless.

        If you haven’t spent much time on:

        jihadwatch.org
        pamelageller.com
        thereligionofpeace.com
        answeringmuslims.com

        ,,,then do yourself a giant favor and educate yourself before embarrassing yourself again, because you are seriously uninformed and are part of the problem in the jihad. You really look like a fool, or as many would describe, a “useful idiot.”

        Don’t waste your time thanking me for my service if you’re also going to insult all of us in the military by calling us “brainwashed.” Really…sack up, join the military, attend 1000 – 2000 Intel briefings, and put your life on the line in combat for your country before you say something stupid like that again,

        Your hero Maobama, for whom I’m sure you voted twice, is destroying the country that most of us love. You share blood on your hands.

        You’re free to respond if you like. It’s a free country, but I’ve already learned that a debate with a fool never ends, and I have more important things to do than exchange endless banter with you. And instead of exchanging endless banter with me, you’d really be better off removing your from your colon and learning what Islam is really all about.

        May peace be with you.

      • Angemon says

        Oct 5, 2015 at 9:18 am

        HumbleAmerican posted:

        “I understand your FEAR of Islam, but have you ever met a peaceful Muslim? I ask, because America has millions of them.”

        *yawn*

        Again with that dead herring? Religions are not defined by what some of its adherents do but by their core teachings and texts. It’s good that some muslims in America live a life better than what their religion orders them to, but what does that tell us about the hundreds of millions of muslims worldwide? Why, nothing, of course. Wherever there are muslims there are groups fighting to impose sharia as the law of the land, butchering non-muslims and muslims deemed to be not muslim enough in horrific ways. Are all those muslims worldwide somehow misunderstanding islam all in the same way? Are all those hundreds of million of muslims worldwide, including Saudi Arabs, who have been living and breathing islam since its invention, getting islam wrong while the “millions” of “peaceful American muslims” are the only ones getting it right?

      • RG says

        Oct 5, 2015 at 8:47 pm

        @HumbleAmerican. Here’s a little jingle that I learned when I was just a kid in Sunday School. It’s a spoof on another jingle that goes, ‘I’m saved, and I know that I am’. It goes like this…

        Oh, I’m humble, and I know that I am
        I’m humble, and I know that I am,
        Yes I’m humble, and I know that I am
        I’m so glad I know that I am!!!

        I suits you so well, HumbleAmerican, I recommend you post it along with all of your comments here….. Let the people know who you really are!!!!

      • Milt Farrow says

        Oct 8, 2015 at 5:05 am

        It Appears young man that your allegiance was to The military you served and the president you served under ,I am not the brightest bulb only an 8000 hr pilot amongst other disciplines Our military has been “blindsided” and the current events historically bear this out factually. as well
        ‘We ain’t done with 9-11″ we will frog march the people ‘WHO DID THIS TO US EVEN IF IT MEANS GEORGE W AND THAT BASTARD CHENY” Go do some research and reading of fact
        9-11 was premeditated, it was not an “accident” go peddle your crap somewhere else I left 13 buddies in Viet Nam -for what? Halliburton” GE? we been at war for over 100 years and you still can’t figure out this game ? whose your daddy?

        • RG says

          Oct 8, 2015 at 1:51 pm

          @MiltF. You clearly are lost in the woods and can’t see the forest for the trees! You’re very sadly, a bitter man who needs someone to blame for your losses. I could say more, but wisdom forbids me. The only one who has been “blindsided” is you, my friend! You are chopping off your own nose to spite your face–AND YOU ARE LOOKING VERY MUCH LIKE A RAVING MONSTER!!!!!

    • Laura says

      Oct 4, 2015 at 12:19 pm

      Excellent post – and I’m in total agreement. With all points!

    • Laura says

      Oct 4, 2015 at 12:20 pm

      And most of all, Daniel, thank you for your service!

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Oct 4, 2015 at 8:30 pm

        @ Laura

        Thank you for those public words of kindness and support. I’m happy to see Americans who can also see the problem and solution. Some are part of the problem, but you Madame are definitely part of the solution.

        Serving America has been the greatest privilege of my life, and I’m honored to serve all Americans, but especially fellow patriots like you. Support from fellow Americans for the troops and the National Mission are inspirational and motivational for us when we’re getting shot at and taking big risks. People like you make our lives worth risking.

        Stay strong Sister. We have a big fight ahead of us.

    • RG says

      Oct 5, 2015 at 8:35 pm

      @Daniel Triplett. Your post literally brought me to tears. Let the naysayers bash one of the most “American” God-fearing presidents who ever occupied 1900 Pennsylvania Ave. I knew when Al Gore put up such a stink regarding the Florida ‘chads’ that he was nothing but a fraud. I never bought into all the negative hype about GW because I sincerely believed (and still do) that Bush 2 was hand picked by GOD HIMSELF to get us through all the crises which plagued us during his tenure. Reed, Pelosi and Barney Fag (not to mention, NOLA Mayor Ray Nagan, were incessant in their vitriol and outright LIES against President Bush, and all the little parasites jumped right on the bandwagon with them. THANK YOU, SIR, for your heartfelt response to my comment and THANK YOU SINCERELY FOR YOUR DEVOTION AND SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY! My brother and I served during the Vietnam War. He saw combat. I did not. I served in Germany because they refused to send two family members into combat at the same time. That’s the difference between George Bush’s military strategy and the current occupier of the White House. Based on your devotion and service to our country and considering that your EX apparently disagrees with you, I’d say, maybe your better off without her. Oops, now I suppose she hates me too! Good luck, my friend.

      With your permission I’d like very much to copy your comments here and forward them to my brother. Let me know if that would be OK. Best wishes and GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Oct 7, 2015 at 9:39 pm

        @RG

        I appreciate your kind and supportive words. Thank you Sir.

        And I much appreciate your service too, and your brother’s. Those were tough times back then. So it’s really true…I’m impressed that our country gave you and your brother the “Private Ryan” treatment, only sending one of you to the front lines. Your parents certainly deserved such accommodation, especially at a time in our history when the odds of coming back alive were much, much worse than they are now..

        As you well know as an American vet yourself, if politicians would STFU and let the military call the shots during war, America would never lose.

        LBJ was a horrible CINC. He selected every target every Thursday at lunch. Expressed in Vietnam Magazine, December 1997, by Air Force Major John Keeler (Ret) – who quotes LBJ as saying: “Those boys can’t hit an outhouse without my permission” – this was something every soldier (and reporter) in Vietnam was aware of, because the president’s arrogant ineptitude was responsible for untold American losses. He evidently believed he was much smarter than the 30 year Generals at selecting targets and forming strategy.

        In contrast, GWB selected a total of TWO targets during his entire presidency. For all of FDR’s faults, we must give him similar credit. He identified for the Pentagon a few general end goals for America, then basically unleashed the full-force of American Military power, and let them do their jobs.

        That’s how it should work all the time. But Caliph Ohammad believes he’s always the smartest guy in the room, and sends our troops into combat with impossible, feckless, suicidal ROE. He and Valerie pick the targets.

        By the time Nixon became CINC, the American people’s appetite for the Vietnam campaign had reached its limit. As you know, the Viet Kong were essentially destroyed at the end, with the NVA being forced to stay up North due to the highly effective Linebacker I & II Operations. Nixon had a plan to keep them from marching South by placing a Wing of B-52s at Andersen AFB, Guam, then carpet bombing the Bejesus out of the NVA if they tried to form up and cross into the South. This plan would have worked, but the Demoncraps in Congress refused to fund said Operation, and the rest was history.

        Fighting a war with feckless ROE is the problem, and 52,000 brave Americans paid the price for it during your time. I admire the guts you guys had to face such difficult odds, with one-hand tied behind your backs.

        BTW, I heard an interesting interview with Henry Kissinger, when he was asked if we could win in Afghanistan. He said “No,” because we had reached the limit of American’s patience for war, which he said is just four and a half years. Beyond that, there’s too much pressure upon Congress from the people to cut off the funding.

        The lesson: Kick the shit out of our enemy quickly, and definitely within four and a half years.

        Thanks again Brother for your service at a difficult time in our Nation’s history.

        Stay strong, we have a big fight ahead. Even if we’re too old to do the fighting anymore, you know as well as I that our firm and vocal support for both our troops and our National Mission is required for their success.

        Yes, you have my unrestricted permission to reprint and share anything I say or post, with anyone you’d like. Let’s get the word out. That’s what’s important. I require no credit. I just want America to win.

        Thanks again to you and your bro.

        God bless America.

    • Anna says

      Oct 5, 2015 at 11:31 pm

      Try googling, muslims death to america on any given day, it was over 93 million yesterday and those were only the computer literate ones…a very small percentage I am sure. Bridget Gabriel who lived there, in terror, can clarify your impression of Muslims as she addresses a Muslim woman who is saying what you are claiming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s and then of course there was the NY Muslim who decided to educate America how peace loving the Muslims are, so he bought a television station to do so. He then beheaded his wife in that same studio. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/08/us-tv-executive-muzzammil-hassan-convicted-beheading-wife-aasiya. Just exactly how many of these peace loving Muslims do you actually know. Finally do some research as I have and see the trouble they are causing around the world. Their own Muslim brothers will not take the Syrians…and they are far better capable of meeting their needs than we are.

    • Azacque says

      Oct 8, 2015 at 12:26 am

      I have liked most of your’ presidents, reluctantly disliked a couple for their womanizing ways but especially liked Reagan and both Bushes.
      I actively dislike the present alien president.
      Restraing myself to be polite.

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Oct 8, 2015 at 5:36 am

        I felt the same way, about the same people.

    • steve says

      Nov 1, 2015 at 10:18 pm

      I do not doubt for a minute that odumbdown and his degressive supporters would sink low enough to attempt to undermine the u.s. by getting argentina to do what kirchner stated. I am not sure why she would be making this up if it were not true. What would be the gain is my first thought and my second is that if she is telling the truth or just lying she puts herself at great risk for revealing this information. It seems like the politics of this administration to be engaging in this clandestine crap.

      I believe your solution for islamists though brutal as it may be. I think the alternative is even more brutal with a constant creeping hell unleashed upon the world by the religion of p*88. People are having a hard time with the cognitive dissonance of grasping the fanaticism and sociopathic nature of this cult and what must be done. I suppose it was that way with england and hitler. Where we make our mistake in this country is to keep inviting the enemy in due to naive claims of tolerance but its really about appeasement hoping the enemy will assimilate and just go away. Islamists in general never do assimilate but bide their time waiting to strike. I hope what you suggest comes to pass and the world puts the islamists cult in its place. We in the u.s. are like the ancient trojans and have pulled the horse into our gates and in this case its full of islamists.

  33. Plutarchus7 says

    Oct 4, 2015 at 9:06 am

    POSTED ON ATLAS SHRUGS

    THIS STORY ONLY MAKES SENSE

    within the context of Obama believing he could get Iran to destroy its nuclear centrifuges (the UN’s original demand) and turn its weaponizing facilities into peaceful nuclear energy sites with other countries providing the nuclear fuel. In other words, there’s nothing demonstrably nefarious here. The story simply illustrates Obama’s imbecilic naivety that he could negotiate Iran into ending its uranium enrichment program.

    Larenzo1 ApolloSpeaks

    I agree a great deal but even though naïve he is still evil. Also it was nefarious because they would not put the request in writing so the world could see.

    ApolloSpeaks Larenzo1

    But why would the Obama administration put it in writing without Iran first agreeing to destroy its centrifuges and stop enriching uranium for fuel? If that was done without Iran being on board Obama would look like a total schm*ck. Moreover, in 2010 Argentina wasn’t enriching uranium and producing nuclear fuel. It closed down it’s enrichment facilities at its Pilcaniyeu plant in the 1980s or 90s-which it’s now first restarting..Unless Obama was misled into believing that Argentina was still producing nuclear fuel this story doesn’t make a bit of bloody sense.

    http://www.apollospeaks.com

    • Plutarchus7 says

      Oct 4, 2015 at 2:21 pm

      It could very well be that this story is a complete fabrication designed by Kirchner to embarrass Obama who she confronted at a UNSC meeting last year over his weakness in combating ISIS and other terror groups. It is reported that Obama was quite upset by her remarks, and we know how vindictive Obama can be when crossed. Hence, last October Kirchner in a scathing letter to Obama accused Nancy Soderberg, a member of his administration, of conducting “an unprecedented lobbying campaign in the Congress of defaming and slandering the government and people of Argentina.” It looks like this puzzling nuclear fuel story is a retaliatory strike against Obama for that campaign-and for other things the administration has done to hurt Argentina.

  34. T. White says

    Oct 5, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    Let me first state that my respect for our miltary knows no bounds. Time and time again they get the job done against impossible odds and their bravery and sacrifice speaks for itself. My grandfather was a colonel in the Air Force and started when it was the Army Air corps. My father and uncle served in Vietnam. I am truly in awe of our armed services.
    That being said I think the neclear option mentioned is insane at this stage of world affairs. It’s casual suggestion lacks any humanity and honestly seems as though low gas prices are the main concern here. This is an absurd course of action when there is no direct threat against us.
    Ignoring the fact that the entire middle east debacle in modern times is one of our own government’s creation. We supported neclear power when our CIA backed puppet the shah was building them but now since the Iranians, who haven’t attacked anyone in over 200 years, have taken control of their country back for themselves it is an issue? I am no fan of Islam especially with their treatment of women among other things but the rise of radical Islam can be attributed to the west’s constant intrusion and meddling in the region. Pakistan has had nukes for years and bears no percievable threat to us nor would Iran. Forget the fact that they have no delivery system to get it here same as N.Korea. Focus should instead be placed on their allies Russia and China who would most definitely take issue with any such attack, likely to the point of nuclear retaliation and have stated on record as such. The very real possibility exists that if they team up against us and a nuclear war is waged the loss of life in this country will be devastating to the point that we will cease to exist as a nation because all that will be left is a glowing pile of ashes and the elite that were allowed into the underground network of cities and tunnels that run coast to coast in our nation. The average U.S. tax paying citizen will NOT survive a nuclear exchange and if anyone can explain to me how this will work out good for the majority of us humans I am all ears.
    Obama is the worst president ever in regards to everything, I think we all agree on that. He has gutted the military, diminished our role on the world stage, made us the laughing stock at the U.N. and a host of other crimes against the citizens of this nation but he is only finishing the job started long before him. The praise given to 43 from a soldiers stand point is worthwhile and I will aknowledge that but from humanity’s perspective he was a greedy war monger and should be brought to trial for the death toll of millions including that of our nation’s most valuable rescource, our men and women in uniform. That is not acceptable. We never found any WMD’s and there was no link to 9/11. They lied to us, went against the U.N. and personaly profited billions in the process all the while advancing the cause of the greater Israel plan. If you don”t know what that is please google for verification but in short israel drew up a plan back in the early 90’s to push their borders to the edge of Afghanistan and has been using our tax dollars and our sacrificing our brave servicemen to do it with. This is not a conspiracy nor is it a secret. Google image the greater Israel plan and it will show you the map. We have destabilized every country surrounding them and Iran is the only one left. If you’re worried about the price of gas now what do you think it will be when Israel controls it all? They will have the entire fossil fuel consuming world by the balls. I am predicting no less than $10 a gallon.
    The Mossad/CIA/MI6 created ISIS is their current tool to make the world afraid and justify our continued unwanted presence in the region. Assad of Syria and now the Russians are the only ones who have done anything to fight them. Israel treats their wounded in their IDF MASH units inside Israel, MI6 trains them with some reports of British snipers fighting with them and we fund and supply them. They are the same bogeyman that Al-qaeda was and serve the same purpose, fear. Google John McCain/ISIS photos and you will see him with the leaders of ISIS(an israeli) and al-qaeda in Syria like they are old pals.
    Look at the bigger picture, not the one provided by CNN or FOX which is complete BS. Our gov’t has a long history of false flag attacks going way back before Desert Storm to justify it’s actions anywhere in the world and the suggestion that America, a country founded because of people fleeing religious persecution, should indiscriminently nuke Muslim populations, innocent women and children is disgusting and highlights the worst that humanity has to offer itself. If you aren’t some israeli habarat then your blind allegiance to a gov’t that is the cause of so much misery around the world is frightening to say the least. You do not represent the will of informed and educated Americans nor has our own gov’t for some time now. Your allegiance is to Israel and your suggestions serve only their interests. Murdering millions of innocent people for a dwindling oil resource is irresponsible and criminal in my opinion. You mislead everyone who reads this by not mentioning any Russia/China response and threat to the rest of us if this course of action is engaged. Kill’em all is not an appropriate response in this day and age of humanity and will only result in the deaths of billions of people with no winners except israel in the bleak outcome that will surely follow.
    We must remain a strong deterrant to the evil in this world and do our best to lead the way forward while finding a balance with the people we seek to lead. Nukes are NOT the answer, with resect to you sir.

    • Daniel Triplett says

      Oct 8, 2015 at 12:07 am

      For someone who can’t see or identify the problem, then yes, I suppose a nuclear solution would sound a bit crazy.

      But you are in a delusional slumber. You’re either ignorant, or are new to JW. You’re astonishingly uninformed, and are replete with insane conspiracy theories. With the length of your post, you’ve obviously committed yourself to a fantasy that I certainly won’t be able to shake.

      You’re unreasonable, and I’d be wasting my time trying to convince you otherwise. If I want to listen to someone extol incessant stubbornness, insults, and disregard for the truth, I’ll call my ex-wife.

      You’ve obviously never served as an officer in our military. Just because you’ve had family who served doesn’t mean you also have a military mind or share their views. My only brother voted for Foolbama twice, still carries his water, and is the biggest anti-nuke, anti-war peacenik I’ve ever known. You’ve also bought into the propaganda that nuclear weapons are “insane” and unnecessary, when in reality, they’re just large efficient bombs.

      The strategy I proposed above is a 12 sentence very brief description of a 20 page complex strategy. I’ve described it in greater detail in years past on this site, and am still fine tuning it for a youtube presentation later on.

      My strategy is one you’re comfortable lambasting publicly, even though you have zero strategy to offer as an alternative. But, of course, how could we expect a man whose blind to our threats to form any kind of a strategy to counter the existential threat he refuses to see?

      For your sake and your countrymen’s security, I hope you educate yourself about the mortal threat that Islam presents us. This is not child’s play, and the solution required will be on an unprecedented and Biblical scale.

      I’m done with you here.

      If or when you awaken from your delusional hibernation, I do hope Israel and PM Netanyahu are governing the real estate stretching from the Mediterranean to the Indian border. The World would be a far better and safer place if they did.

    • RG says

      Oct 8, 2015 at 3:00 pm

      @T.White. Here’s a little thought for you to ponder, my friend….

      If the allusive muslim PLO ever gained complete control of the Middle East, to and including Israel, you can take it to the bank that Israel would be utterly obliterated within 12 to 24 hours….

      If the Israelis ever achieved a lasting peace agreement from the muslim hordes that surround and constantly attack her, we would instantaneously experience the end of all conflicts in that region, and Jews would openly welcome muslims into their homes….

      To put it another way, If Israel would lay down her arms, that would be the end of Israel…. If the muslims would lay down THEIR arms, it would be the end of the war!!!!!

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