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Australia: School allows Muslim students to leave the room to avoid singing the National Anthem

Oct 24, 2015 12:25 pm By Robert Spencer

Cranbourne Carlisle Primary School’s slogan is “Many Cultures, One Community.” But in reality, they’re not one community at all — not when they allow Muslim students to opt out of singing the National Anthem. “But Cranbourne Carlisle Primary School Principal Cheryl Irving stood by the decision, telling Star News on Tuesday it was made in adherence with Muharram – the Islamic month of mourning associated with Shi’a Muslims in which they do not participate in ‘joyful events.'” Are all the Muslim students at Cranbourne Carlisle Primary School Shi’ites, then? Shi’ites are only ten to fifteen percent of Muslims worldwide, so that’s extremely unlikely. Much more likely is that Cheryl Irving received complaints from Muslim parents, who told her that singing the Australian National Anthem was offensive to their religion, and being a good multiculturalist, readily agreed to allow them to opt out.

But what will become of these students in the future? They have been taught that they need have no allegiance to Australia, and that Australian authorities allow and respect this. How will they acquire that allegiance in the future? Does Cheryl Irving really think that there will be no negative consequences of their failing to do so?

Cranbourne Carlisle Primary School

“Kids opt out on anthem,” by Lachlan Moorhead, Cranbourne News, October 21, 2015 (thanks to Kenneth):

A CRANBOURNE primary school raised eyebrows during an assembly last week when its Islamic students were given the choice of leaving the room to avoid singing the Australian National Anthem.

But despite concern from parents, the principal of Cranbourne Carlisle Primary has strongly defended the school’s decision to allow its Islamic students to leave the Year 2-6 assembly, citing a religious month of mourning.

Lorraine McCurdy, whose grandchildren go to Cranbourne Carlisle Primary, contacted Star News after attending the school’s assembly last week and being concerned by the staff’s decision to give Islamic students the option to not sing the national anthem.

Ms McCurdy said she attended the assembly every week and had never seen this before.

“We were first welcomed to the assembly by two Grade 2 students, then as we were about to stand up for the national anthem, a teacher stepped in front of the school and asked that any student for whom this was against their culture to leave the hall and join a teacher waiting for them outside the hall,” she said.

“About 30-40 children left, all of Middle Eastern appearance.

“When we had finished singing the National Anthem, they all reappeared into the hall and sat with their classmates.

“A lot of the parents at the assembly were saddened as this was the Australian national anthem and not to do with any religion.”

But Cranbourne Carlisle Primary School Principal Cheryl Irving stood by the decision, telling Star News on Tuesday it was made in adherence with Muharram – the Islamic month of mourning associated with Shi’a Muslims in which they do not participate in “joyful events”.

“Muharram is a cultural observation marking the death of Imam Hussein,” Ms Irving said.

“This year it falls between Tuesday 13 October and Thursday 12 November. During this time Shi’a do not participate in joyful events as it is a period of mourning. This includes listening to music, attending parties, wearing nail polish or make up, etc.

“Prior to last week’s Years 2-6 Assembly commencing, an announcement was made advising anyone participating in Muharram, that it was an opportune time to leave the hall as music was about to be played (the National Anthem).

“Anyone who was unable to listen to music due to this cultural observance was given adequate time to comply with their religious belief.”

Ms Irving said the school demonstrated “great tolerance and understanding of the heritage and cultures of others”.

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  1. Laurence says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    “Beneath our radiant Southern Cross” perhaps was too much to tolerate.. .

  2. Mo says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    And here I had thought Australia was one of the few sane places left on earth.

    • Natalie says

      Oct 24, 2015 at 6:32 pm

      Australia is not sane. Like every where else, Muslims are very good at manipulating our laws and political correctness against us. If you do not give in to them they claim racism. If you call them out on their hate speech, they claim you are inhibiting their freedom of religion.

  3. Doug says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    “Ultimately, we (Muslims) can never be full citizens of this country…because thee is no way we can be fully committed tot he institutions and ideologies of this country.” -Ihsan Bagby, -CAIR

    “If we are practicing muslims, we are above the law of the land.” -Mustafa Carroll, Director, CAIR Texas, USA.

    • Noel Eliscu says

      Oct 24, 2015 at 3:35 pm

      if you will not say our national anthem and feel that you do not have to obey our laws but want social services. Please leave!

      • EYESOPEN says

        Oct 24, 2015 at 9:18 pm

        … and don’t let the door hit you in the @$$ on your way out!

    • alamo47 says

      Oct 25, 2015 at 5:09 am

      Well if you aren’t prepared to acknowledge the country who has taken you in and showered you with benefits, then why don’t you fuck off back to where you came from. And what is this shit about being above the law of the lane – no-one is above the law of any country. Again if you aren’t prepared to abide by the laws of our country – fuck off. Who in the hell do you people think you are.

  4. Charli Main says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    No surprise here. The Muslims currently infesting Australia have no intention of adapting to or adopting the Australian way of life. They will NEVER be Australian. Their Allah AKA Mohammed, strictly forbids Muslims to integrate into any society that they have infiltrated.

    • Doug says

      Oct 24, 2015 at 2:59 pm

      Soon the kangaroos will be told to cover up. That pouch must drive the poor muslums wild!

    • alamo47 says

      Oct 25, 2015 at 5:10 am

      Then why are we letting them stay in our country. As the saying goes – if you don’t like our country then go back to where you came from.

      • particolor says

        Oct 25, 2015 at 9:15 pm

        WE WOULD LOVE TOO !! But our Government is Mentally Petrified of them !! 🙁

  5. oldblindjohn says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 1:14 pm

    Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

    Arm yourselves, the barbarians are inside the gates.

    • alamo47 says

      Oct 25, 2015 at 5:11 am

      About time we took up arms against this enemy

      • particolor says

        Oct 25, 2015 at 9:17 pm

        They prefer ALMS !

  6. oldblindjohn says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

    Qur’an (5:51) – “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

    Arm yourselves, the barbarians are inside the gates.

  7. Bill Bobbs says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 2:16 pm

    It’s not just ignorance and stupidity on the part of European governments. They can’t denonuce Islam because their belief in multiculturalism underlies their whole world view. And they can’t begin to deal with the problem because deporting brown-skilled Muslims would also be racist. And they can’t begin to deal with the problem without admitting their culpability in creating it. And they won’t deal with it because their defining trait is cowardice. Good piece on that last factor at: http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2015/10/us-and-them.html

    • particolor says

      Oct 29, 2015 at 5:23 am

      So just hand over Your Jizra Infidels !!

      • cathari5 says

        Oct 29, 2015 at 5:50 am

        would you like your jizya with bullets or machete sauce ?

  8. dij_swami says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    Save the children…Don’t sing. Don’t listen to singing. Allah will pour molten lead into your ears for listening to a songstress, imagine his fury if you are the songstress…You wouldn’t want to subject a child tp that, would you?

    • PRCS says

      Oct 24, 2015 at 7:42 pm

      Is dij_swami a cousin?

      • EYESOPEN says

        Oct 24, 2015 at 9:19 pm

        dij_swami’s remark sounds like sarcasm to me.

  9. Angemon says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 3:18 pm

    “A lot of the parents at the assembly were saddened as this was the Australian national anthem and not to do with any religion.”

    But Cranbourne Carlisle Primary School Principal Cheryl Irving stood by the decision, telling Star News on Tuesday it was made in adherence with Muharram – the Islamic month of mourning associated with Shi’a Muslims in which they do not participate in “joyful events”.

    That assumes that the little brats would actually enjoy singing the anthem.

  10. cathari5 says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    but chanting allahu akbah during this same time would no doubt be permitted as its a song of domination and superiority of the mooslims

  11. More Ham Ed says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    “There is no fun in Islam.” – Ayatollah Khomeini, 1979, a man who was not poor, not uneducated, and not unware of the unholy ko ‘ran.

    They should serve HAM sandwiches for October.

    • particolor says

      Oct 25, 2015 at 10:43 pm

      Then send the Fuckheads Packing with a Bellyful of Pork !! 🙁 🙁

  12. Eva says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    A national anthem is all about national pride and patriotism – not frivolity. This is PC bulshit at its finest.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Oct 24, 2015 at 9:20 pm

      Yep.

  13. mortimer says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    Totally absurd.

  14. mortimer says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    Ms. Irving thinks we must accept Muslim cultural practices even if they are incompatible with Western societies?

    Are the following ‘acceptable’ or not?

    1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of world conquest 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Misogyny – repression of women 9 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 10 Genocide 11 Ethnic cleansing 12 Anti-Semitism 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 17 Backwardness – stagnation 18 Violence against women 19 Slavery 20 Discriminatory Sharia law 21 Hatred of the arts 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Supremacism

    • simpleton says

      Oct 25, 2015 at 7:58 am

      You bring up many points that seems to be initially “The Strategy of Insolence” practiced by muslims over all other cultures, that becomes ” The Strategy of Intransigence”

      They eventually want to change our culture, like how churches probably have to remove crosses, can not be repaired, and should be converted to mosques.

      No walking on streets unless appropriately clothed and of course no alcohol, or pork products.

      That taverns and such should be closed
      Stop any celebrations that have alcohol, music or is contrary to sharia laws.
      Do not eat in public during ramadan, not even halal products.

      Prayers rooms will have to be planned with special ablution wash rooms, and times of the day must revolve around this.

      In the beginning acceptance of mini courts of sharia for family and marriage and divorce?
      The madrassahs and universities must be in churning out graduates of sheiks and imans etc. that will teach just what is an “attack/cartoon” on Islam which must be defended in an all out murderous outrage.
      That by hook or by crook, mosques with aspiring minarets must boom,,, well not initially with loud speakers, but they are easy add on’s.

      Just a little of the effects on everyone else, first by taking up , populating then dominating an area that like in Europe becomes like a “no go Zone”

    • simpleton says

      Oct 25, 2015 at 8:08 am

      I thought the Australian view should be or was;-

      that the churches will ring all their bells before and after a service, and just for celebrations and there will be many rehearsals.
      Aussie festivals to be celebrated in all their glory like national days, and with plenty of pork scratching, crackling, bacon options for all takeaway places.
      Christmas and Easter celebrations too.

      If an Aussie asks a muslim to come into a tavern for a beer then he must and cannot leave until he has done his “shout” or “round”. Could be quite timely for Friday afternoons before muslims go to any other celebration of theirs. Also would make their long suffering plight during ramadan much easier. ? 😉

      When the sun shines, nice open clothes so that vitamin D that is good for the body and prevents rickets.
      So automatically precludes the burka hijab etc.
      If businesses or institutions have a uniform and standard form of dress, then that is to be adhered to with no tweaking or adaptations.

      For kindness to animals and no certification for halal foods so food can be cheaper.
      Seeing and Hearing Dogs are all to be treated with friendly respect.

      A savings for business and government as no prayer rooms and no wadu facilities. No toilet facilities to be used for wadu.

      You can pray before you go to work and you can pray after work. Just not at work. Business will not have this time loss so maybe wages can stay up or products a little cheaper.
      Ramadan, Haj must be on muslim own holiday time.
      Fasting at work means that pay will be docked as you will not be as efficient., and be a danger in the work place.

      Sharia court decisions will not be accepted in any form, and nor any ruling. It must all be done through an Aussie Court and Judge ruling in Aussie laws which will be final.
      Any mosque will not have a minaret. No loud speakers. If Switzerland can do this, so can Australia.

      All koran, hadith and sira must be set in English Language in an unadulterated form , but more easier to read as it should be put in chronological order. That way the abrogation verses can be high lighted to show how the koran changes.
      Any local Australian can read it and quote it, spread posters of it, cartoons of it , and laugh at it, sing about it, like the English did in their little ditties about the German war cabinet. 🙂
      The media can do like wise, and in particular maybe show more of Father Zacheria Boutros interviews and his kindly lectures about Mohammads life and teachings. Those lectures and/or screenings can also be done in schools and churches.

      Protests that are to serve islam or muslim purposes will be banned.
      Any problem with muslim children at schools will also be the father and mothers problem. If things do not improve, the children at age 18 will simply be deported. If it becomes serious before then, then whole family will be deported.
      No marriage polygamy. If any lapses as such then whole families will be deported.

      Australia is impressive as, if any immigrant has to serve a one years jail sentence then automatic deportation. No appeal. Perhaps any family would be provided with one way free tickets to go also.

      All inmans to have one of those “go cameras””smart phone” recording sound as well permanently strapped to him and able to transmit. If tampered with then deported. Anything suspicious one warning then if repeat then deported. After all they have a responsibility to be peaceful and law abiding, that is to Australian law,

      It is just a start, and I am sure others could add to it, and fine tune it for better effect. Sure some parts may not be practicable, but just see how far we can get and keep the pressure on.

      As I heard said in Australia, if you do not like it, then you can go! ! !
      Personally I wished they never arrived.

      The real point is is to knock out the 32 points that seem to be “The Strategy of Insolence”.

      We need our ” The Strategy of Intransigence”
      As I see below “nutjob’s” point that we have to be “intolerant of the intolerant”

      We must be the ones to stand strong, to be “the strong horse that every wants to be with” , so the ones who want to leave, can denounce islam, become apostates and feel safe and secure in doing so.
      In a way we have duty to this, so that muslim can truly have an option. We in all the Western world certainly need to get the politicians to pass some form of these “laws.” and never renege on them.

      After all, there are options for muslims as there is a lot of construction work building air ports , high towers, soccer stadiums, etc. through out the Middle East where a lot of those immigrants would be at home with their religion, language.

      • Linde Barrera says

        Oct 26, 2015 at 1:55 am

        To simpleton- I love, love your excellent suggestions on dealing with all facets of Islam. You are a patriot, and you should run for office. Here in Brooklyn NY, there is a saying going around: “Why is it that our American flag and our American culture offends some people, but our American benefits don’t?

        • simpleton says

          Oct 26, 2015 at 7:41 am

          Linde Barrera Thanks
          The original intention I always thought was the government was “of the people, by the people, for the people , Not for the rest of the world.
          When you are able you may help some else where, but not at the detriment of your own people.
          If your people are strong then individually they may decide who to help with their own resources.

  15. Lee says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    ‘Ms Irving said the school demonstrated “great tolerance and understanding of the heritage and cultures of others”.

    Of course this is a lie. Irving demonstrates Muslims are encouraged to NEVER show “great tolerance” for non-Muslims, or for “the heritage and cultures” that host them. In fact they are always encouraged to show the opposite – like the abrasive intolerance and profound disrespect of staging a walk-out on children singing the national anthem.

    If “tolerance” or respect for others were important values, naturally all children would at least be encouraged to tolerate the national anthem. You would think it *particularly important* that immigrants from countries that are *intellectual and moral shit-holes* would be encouraged to tolerate civilization. But the last thing traitors want is to raise Muslim standards, or social cohesion.

    (Apologies for the swear, but I couldn’t find a polite word to more accurately convey the depths of intellectual midgetry and moral depravity in Muslim countries, than by evoking a stinking, primitive, fly-blown cesspit.)

    However, the political winds are changing (away from the cesspit), because recent surveys show more than 80% of Australian voters want any terrorist, and anyone simply *supporting* terrorism, to be stripped of citizenship and deported.

    We will eventually find politicians who will make this happen. Further, Australian treason law will finally be implemented on those who have imported and enabled the Jihad in this country.

    Our treason law states that anyone intentionally providing assistance of *any kind* to people at war with our country is guilty of treason. Muslims of course subscribe to Jihad as part of their imperialist death-cult, and prosecute their Jihad on us in many ways, but the refusal to sing the national anthem is further evidence of their antipathy to our civilization.

    Naturally certain politicians are the most easily proven guilty of treason, but journalists and educators have also provided invaluable assistance to the Jihad. I’m putting Cheryl Irving on the list for investigation.

  16. Jay Boo says

    Oct 24, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    MUSLIMS murder schoolchildren who sing about JESUS.

    — These are the kind of people we are dealing with.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Oct 24, 2015 at 9:22 pm

      How right you are Jay Boo!

  17. Matthieu Baudin says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 1:23 am

    The steady white-anting of the nation state.
    Radical Multiculturalism is a left over rash from the professional propagandists who lost the cold war but who nonetheless still wish to reorder and recreate our modern universal civilisation to match their utopian dreams.

  18. Nutjob says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 7:22 am

    I would suggest the next time that happens, every pupil should walk out, along with the non-Muslim pupils and gauge the reaction, sure it’s disrespectful but so is the actions of the Muslims there as well. One out, all out that’s true equality, not pick and choose rules when it suits ones agenda, school use to be about discipline for all pupils not certain religious groups who think they’re superior to the other.
    Bring back the discipline, right across the board, don’t be afraid to offend, Australua is a secular nation built on fair values, that is Judeo- Christian values, get it into your heads, intolerance should be met with intolerance, especially when the existing law of the land is being usurped by an alien incompatible force, which is Islam.
    Good night and God bless us all.

    • particolor says

      Oct 25, 2015 at 10:49 pm

      How much more of this Imported Bullshit are we supposed to endure before we Cuff the Azzoles around the ears ? 🙁 🙁

  19. sidney penny says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 8:10 am

    “Much more likely is that Cheryl Irving received complaints from Muslim parents, who told her that singing the Australian National Anthem was offensive to their religion, and being a good multiculturalist, readily agreed to allow them to opt out.”

    Any excuse not to sing the national song or national anthem.

    Not only in Australia but countries as well.

    Hell, you can become a citizen of Canada without showing your face.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-2322202/Muslims-worship-Allah-BSP-MP-refuses-apologise-disrespect-national-song.html

    http://www.rediff.com/news/column/why-objections-to-the-vande-mataram-are-not-valid/20130514.htm

    https://themmindset.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/muslim-mp-walks-out-during-playing-of-vande-mataram/

  20. Baucent says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 9:30 am

    Giving in to those sorts of pathetic excuses for muslims to opt out of host country unity events (like singing the national anthem) will only result in them demanding more concessions. Won’t be long before the female teachers at Cranbourne school will be required to wear a head covering if muslim students are in their class. It’s all about “give and take”; the infidel community gives and gives and the muslims take control.

  21. Dan says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 9:36 am

    I think it is a great idea. It allows the other kids in the school to really know who is who!

  22. Scott M says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 9:42 am

    Even if Western communities take action to stop this ‘islamisation’ – what is the answer? What is the solution? I cant see ANY. many of these maggots are citizens or born here. They cant be “sent back” anywhere…This is just going to be drama – ongoing grief.

    Civil war? Continual terror attacks? Us and them – communities polarised and fighting each other like Beirut. The makings of this scenario already exist.

  23. Richie says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    How long before Muslims try to ban Jews from the classroom?

  24. Richie says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    Is Australia a nation run by liberals? I thought they were smarter than that.

  25. Connie says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    If our customs irritate you, please feel free to leave.

    • Charli Main says

      Oct 26, 2015 at 3:44 am

      ” if your customs irritate us, we gonna burn your houses down, slit your throats, rape your women and sodomise your children until YOU adopt our customs and way of life”
      ISLAM 101.

  26. Peggy says

    Oct 25, 2015 at 11:08 pm

    Time to start writing to the MP in that area and asking for explanation. A copy of email should be sent to Education Minister too.

  27. Brendan says

    Oct 26, 2015 at 10:28 am

    Maybe this is a good idea and when the students are gone they can teach the whole class why the Muslims are not allowed to participate in nationalism and how they’re commanded by Allah to subdue the infidel until he converts to Islam. Then allow the student back into class.

  28. PLB says

    Oct 27, 2015 at 12:18 am

    Shows they are not Australian, nor do they wish too be

  29. Chris says

    Oct 27, 2015 at 3:14 am

    Surely they are allowed to practice their own religious beliefs, I would say that is perfectly reasonable.

    Why should someone have to give up their core beliefs so they can appear more “Australian”? That’s not the Australia I grew up in….

    • Noel Eliscu says

      Oct 27, 2015 at 1:52 pm

      Then let them go to a country that has Sharia and no bacon. We should not change for them and they should follow are rules. They are pushy and hate all non believers per the Quran and their spiritual leaders.

  30. Marco Elliott says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 10:12 am

    Will Eastern Catholic and Eastern Orthodox students at any level of school be allowed to choose what they attend during the pre-Easter Lenten fast?

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