Here are the basic facts: “Australia: Armed man smashes windows at Melbourne cafe, calls himself ‘messiah of Islam’ [VIDEO],” by Mugdha Variyar, International Business Times, October 27, 2015 10:16 IST
A man armed with a knife and a meat cleaver created havoc at a cafe in Melbourne, Australia on Tuesday, in a chilling reminder of the Lindt cafe siege in Sydney last December,.
The man, who called himself “messiah of Islam”, smashed windows at the La Trobe St cafe in Melbourne, scaring customers before moving to a restaurant on the first floor of the building….
Last night, Pamela Geller posted a story about it from Au.News, containing this detail: “The man has since claimed to be a ‘messiah of Islam’ and called out for his mother.” However, the story has since been altered, so that the link in Pamela Geller’s post now goes to an article entitled, “Man who held up Melbourne restaurant with meat cleaver called himself ‘The Messiah.'” The article itself now does not mention the fact that he called himself “messiah of Islam,” and now says only this:
As he ranted and raved, the accused could be heard calling for his mother.
He also referred to himself as ‘The Messiah’.
Police believed the incident was not religious or politically motivated.
Of course it wasn’t! Especially when the media is busy covering up any evidence that it was. The Age doesn’t mention his “messiah of Islam” statement at all; its story has this: “Acting Senior Sergeant Tanner refused to comment on the man’s motive, and said the matter was being treated as a mental health issue. ‘He appeared to be suffering some form of mental health episode,’ he said.” The Sydney Morning Herald carries the same quote.
We know from long experience that the mainstream media all over the Western world is extremely reluctant to publish anything that reflects poorly on Islam or Muslims, but this is taking that bias a step further. Now the media is actively covering up the facts so as to avoid giving us the idea that anything is amiss with Islam. Maybe this fellow really is deranged and that is all there is to it, but the fact that his derangement manifests itself at least in part in an identification with Islam is something that the Australian public needs to know, and ponder. The chief lesson that emerges from this episode instead is that the Australian mainstream media, like that in the U.S. and Europe, definitively cannot be trusted.
Emilie Green says
“. . . so as to avoid giving us the idea that anything is amiss with Islam.”
Fortunately this MSM trick ain’t working like it used to.
ECAW says
“the Western world is extremely reluctant to publish anything that reflects poorly on Islam or Muslims, but this is taking that bias a step further. Now the media is actively covering up the facts”
This would be moving from kitman to taqiyya, wouldn’t it?
Angemon says
Give him a one-way ticket to the islamic state – let him call himself “messiah of islam” there and see how that goes…
mortimer says
Robert Spencer wrote: “The chief lesson that emerges from this episode …is that the Australian mainstream media, like that in the U.S. and Europe, … cannot be trusted.”
Journalists and their editors are trying to Islam via POLITICAL SCIENCE ALONE. That’s woefully inadequate, because Islam is a politico-religious IDEOLOGY. Islam is THEOCRATIC fascism.
Because journalists and their editors have not studied the JIHAD DOCTRINE, they make the same mistakes TIME AND TIME again.
Doglicka says
The performance of Cruz and Rubio in the last debate could be a game changer in waking people up to the leftist bias in the media – not to us, but to the ‘others’. Sterling effort by the republicans.
Doglicka says
Check out this interview with Maajid and Sam Harris. It is taking us someway in the right direction i believe. http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/ Scroll down, it’s well worth it. I know Robert is a bit critical of Maajid, in some ways rightly so, but he is a reformer and this is what is needed. Anyway, check it out.
Doglicka says
I hope Robert gets to view that interview. I’d like to hear his thoughts. Sam Harris is a bit cowardly when it comes to commenting on Islamism in general but maybe it’s a diplomatic stance.
There are a couple of things that have happened lately that give me hope in our civilisation. More Robert in debates and in interviews will give me more …
mortimer says
“Journalists and their editors are trying to ANALYZE Islam via POLITICAL SCIENCE ALONE … without any knowledge or understanding of the jihad doctrine”
Myxlplik says
I agree Robert, this guy may just be suffering from mental illness, but why not report the whole story, just reporting the facts. Do journalists assume the public to be so ignorant that we can’t process information?
Modern journalists have a tendency to be factophobic when it comes to Islam or Muslims. They also have a tendency to be liberal activists. In my opinion multiculturalism is their faith, and omission is their scientific method.
Jay Boo says
Islam induced mental illness.
Some Muslims handle it better.
The carpet kissing fetish prayer displays eventually wear off.
Some Muslims try to gulp down way more (lovers of death) Islam than they can handle at a given moment while chasing the illusive high of Islam’s unknowable Allah and then are totally overwhelmed by the painful emptiness that Muhammad’s shallow ideology offers.
All Muslims suffer from mental illness.
Doglicka says
ALL religious people suffer from mental illness mate. But there’s only one that threatens the survival of our species.
Peggy says
Thank you for your expert opinion.
You honestly don’t see the error of what you said. Insulting such a large group of people is not very smart.
Maybe it’s you who suffers from delusions. Maybe you think you are right while all people who have faith are wrong and that makes you a very arrogant and stupid person.
Raja says
This article proves that the media also indulges in deception/taqiyya. Where is the freedom of press when they are (across board) required to tow the state’s official line.
This is a kind of injustice. And this is not going to take Australia anywhere but to bottomless pit.
Cecilia Ellis says
“The article itself now does not mention the fact that he called himself “messiah of Islam,” and now says only this . . . He also referred to himself as ‘The Messiah’.”
While this episode possibly might be a case of clinical mental illness, the change to the original article reveals a blatant censorship that bodes ominously of things to come. Had the individual claimed that he was “Jesus,” there is no reason to suspect that the article would have been changed. The inference in this case is that, with a cursory and uniformed reading of the original article, one might conclude that the individual was referring to the Christian “Jesus,” a conclusion that the mainstream media has no interest in concealing and, indeed, an agenda which that same media would promote. Additionally, that police might so quickly conclude that the individual’s actions were neither religious nor political is equally disturbing. Despite the truth, all action must be taken to preclude offending Muslim sensitivities; all other religions are fair game . . . because adherents to those other religions will not respond with murderous rampages. The truth is now held hostage by normative Islam, the caretakers of which are religious and political leaders, academia, and the mainstream media.
I am reminded of that 1897 letter to the New York “Sun” editor from an eight-year-old Virginia: “Papa says, ‘If you see it in THE SUN it’s so.’” Not the case anymore, Virginia . . . not the case anymore.
Davegreybeard says
@mortimer
“Journalists and their editors are trying to ANALYZE Islam via POLITICAL SCIENCE ALONE … without any knowledge or understanding of the jihad doctrine”
Not so, mort.
“Journalists” aren’t trying to analyze ANYTHING, except how to spin or cover up the facts to promote their Left wing agenda. Facts are a nuisance to be dealt with.
Myxlplik gets closer to the truth with:
“Modern journalists have a tendency to be factophobic when it comes to Islam or Muslims. They also have a tendency to be liberal activists. In my opinion multiculturalism is their faith, and omission is their scientific method.”
I would only add that it’s not a “tendency” for them to be liberal activists, it’s a fact. The ones who aren’t “liberal activists” are rare creatures indeed.
Salome says
The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald are from the same loony left stable. I wouldn’t be surprised if they left in the reference solely to the ‘Messiah’ in order to point the finger at the Christian or Jewish communities (more likely the former). Then they say it’s not religiously or politically motivated in order to rub in the fact that it is. But thanks for the heads up–I’ll find the write people to tell what really happened.
ballotcode says
Funny that the headline was sanitized [NOT].
I think that some [government, media…] think that appeasement is still possible.
Michael says
malaysian man goes nuts.. blame the muslims… well done… maybe abit of research into this would have proven fruitful… ignorant plebs
Mohammed Zuqzdiq says
ISLAM is a menal health issue,
Matthieu Baudin says
I think you are right Mohammed. It would be helpful to us all if this madness was explored further so we could try to understand it and deal with it. I wonder for instance whether a great many Muslims realise at some deeper psychological level that the faith is on its way out and are compensating with this really mad, murderous and out of touch behaviour. Mind you, Islam seems to have gone through this pattern several times in the past.
Peggy says
An animal is most dangerous when it’s wounded and that’s the only similarity between Islam and animals.
Simon says
Interesting handle there.
Kasey says
Just more appeasement in line with PM Malcolm Turnbull’s softly softly approach to Islam in Australia. I wonder what the response would have been had this guy actually got to chop into or be-head someone?
Matthieu Baudin says
It seems that as the man didn’t have any hostages, the media thought it unimportant to inform the public that it had yet another frenetic Jihadi on the warpath in a heavily populated area. There seems to be no end to self censorship in meeting the needs of today’s ‘head in the sand’ intellectual elite.
Angry Aussie says
I have decided to recognise him as the newest Islamic Prophet. Why not? Anything to assist Islam in Australia imploding is worth a shot. We already have Sunni Muslims bullying Shia here in Islamic primary schools. Our ignorant government allowed Shia students to walk out of school assemby in a public school in Victoria before the National Anthem was sung…apparently on “religious grounds”. What a crock of BS. An online petition to have Islam reclassified in Australia from a religion to a political ideology was gathering momentum and then was removed because it was reported as hate speech. Not a word of what was written in the petition was wrong.
Jon says
We’re going like Sweden where the media is reluctant to name Muslim criminals by name or religion lest they be called ‘islamophobic’.
gravenimage says
“Man who held up Melbourne restaurant with meat cleaver called himself ‘The Messiah.’” The article itself now does not mention the fact that he called himself “messiah of Islam”…
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Oh, great. Now the MSM is skewing things so that it falsely appears that this violent Mohammedan was actually some sort of crazed Christian. *Ugh*.
Baucent says
“Police believed the incident was not religious or politically motivated.”
Doesn’t say much for the investigative skills of the Australian Police when someone calling themselves “the Messiah” or “Messiah of Islam” is not suspected of being religiously motivated.
This is the same absurd PC claptrap that had US Defence Secretary Ash Carter saying a US soldier killed in a firefight with ISIS jihadist did not “die in combat”.
The new golden rule is “Never blame it on Islam”.
Jon says
The Australian liberal media and the police, still have trouble coming to terms with the Lindt Cafe killings as being ‘Islamist’ by motivation despite Man Momis claiming to be a jihadi, in dress, utterances and by the signage and paraphernalia he had with him.
It’s almost a wilful denial of the truth, claiming that the man was mentally disturbed, thus causing the incident. By that reckoning ALL jihadi attacks anywhere, regardless of size or scale, can be dismissed as mere incidents carried out by lone assassins suffering mental delusions.
Ergo, there is no Islamist threat anywhere! Just isolated incidents merely coincidentally similar.
carepdiadem says
“Maybe this fellow really is deranged and that is all there is to it, but the fact that his derangement manifests itself at least in part in an identification with Islam is something that the Australian public needs to know, and ponder.”
Nicely put, Robert.
Occasionally it really is “just” mental derangement. But whether it is or isn’t, the press has no business altering the facts or presentation thereof. Just makes people more uneasy and the atmosphere less stable.
jj says
I guess Messiah’s sometimes just need their mommy!
Peggy says
Viggen840 says
October 27, 2015 at 10:40 pm
Peggy, it may be haram in islamic countries, but we don’t recognise this in Australia. Deport the bastard and let the moslems deal with his ‘insanity’.
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I agree that these bastards should be deported but we do observe Halal in Australia. At least 75% of everything in our shops is Halal even if it’s not labelled that way. There are many products on our shelves which are Halal but don’t carry a logo because people might not buy them. Almost all meat is Halal slaughtered. You will find it hard to find a butcher who doesn’t get his meat from a Halal certified slaughter facility. So yes, we all observe Halal in Australia whether we know it or not or like it or not.
I’ve found out that Macro label in Woolworths is not Halal so it is a good idea to buy Macro products.
Peggy says
Angemon says
October 27, 2015 at 6:55 pm
voegelinian posted:
“Why not round them up and eject them from Australia and deposit them somewhere, anywhere, in the Dar-al-Islam rather than push pursue a policy bound to involve unnecessary extra violence?”
Why not lead by example? Start by explaining us the legal framework allowing to “deport” native citizens. Then tell us how we’d distinguish between muslims and non-muslims, since muslims, being allowed to lie to non-muslims, would certainly claim that they were not muslims
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The Muslims have already declared themselves as Muslims. They can’t take it back when the time comes to be thrown out of Australia. I am very sure that we have a written record of them declaring they are Muslim in the last Census.
As for not having legal framework is concerned, well that’s what our parliament is for. They can easily change the law and be able to legally deport them.
To where? Again, most have told us where they have come from or their parents have come from and which language they speak. It’s all in the Census.
They few we can’t identify won’t be a problem. It’s only when they reach a certain percentage they become a problem.
We don’t accept any more in either and we are going to be in a much better position to monitor the few mosques that remain.
No more sermons in Arabic. They have to be in English so that we can understand what they say.
Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“The Muslims have already declared themselves as Muslims. They can’t take it back when the time comes to be thrown out of Australia. I am very sure that we have a written record of them declaring they are Muslim in the last Census.”
And they can very easily claim they changed religion after the census. How do you propose to verify the veracity of someone making such a claim?
“As for not having legal framework is concerned, well that’s what our parliament is for. They can easily change the law and be able to legally deport them.”
Huh, is there a country where deportation is not legal? What I was asking to voeg was specifically the legal background to “deport” a native citizen with no other citizenship. I have no clue how that could be achieved and if voeg does, he’s keeping it to himself.
“To where? Again, most have told us where they have come from or their parents have come from and which language they speak. It’s all in the Census.”
Again, what about native converts? That’s my point – where do you propose to deport an Australian native convert to islam? No country is forced to take in foreign citizens that other nation deems to be undesirable. If an Australian living in, for example, Japan misbehaves, Japan sends him back to Australia. If a Cuban misbehaves in Cuba, and the Cuban government decides to strip him of his citizenship and board him on a plane to Australia, Australia is under no obligation to take him in.
Peggy says
I said that there will be a few that can’t be deported left and we can deal with them. It’s when they get to around 3% or just under like they are now that they become difficult to deal with.
So the native converts and a few we can’t identify aren’t going to be much of a problem.
Remember, they are only brave when they are in large numbers.
Yes we do have laws to deport but those laws don’t cover all that we should deport.
We need to look at deporting at least the first wave of illegal migrants (we all know that they are here) and work towards the rest.
I don’t have all the solutions but I do have ideas and that’s more than a lot of people have. The most important thing I have is the realisation that it has to be done. I don’t know why you keep saying that it can’t be done. That’s starting from a negative point already.
We have to work towards making it possible. If everyone who had an idea said it can’t be done we wouldn’t have any progress at all.
We know that the current situation is dangerous and the laws in place cannot protect us because as they grow in numbers we simply don’t have enough manpower to deal with them.