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Clock boy Ahmed Mohamed meets Obama, decides to move to Qatar

Oct 20, 2015 8:01 pm By Robert Spencer

I know how you feel, Ahmed. If I ever met Obama face to face, I am sure I would want to leave the country as well.

Seriously, Ahmed Mohamed didn’t build anything. He just fit existing clockworks into a pencil box. His arrest was a hysterical overreaction, but not “Islamophobia”: school officials nationwide have acted in similar ways with non-Muslim students because of the zero tolerance policy on weaponry. There are ominous implications of this entire episode, with the inevitable effect that school officials will be wary of stopping Muslim students with suspicious objects — making Obama exceedingly irresponsible, or worse, to join in the lionization and canonization of this boy.

And now it gets even worse. Despite the whole world lining up to praise and reward Ahmed Mohamed for being a putative victim of “Islamophobia,” he and his family are clinging tenaciously to victim status. He was showered with support from “Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton and Google co-founder Sergey Brin,” while “Tweets, think pieces and daytime TV segments were dedicated to dissecting how Ahmed’s situation typified racism and Islamaphobia in America,” and he “visited the Google Science Fair, met with Sudan’s President Omar al Bashir, posed with the queen of Jordan at a United Nations Summit, appeared on the ‘Doctor Oz’ show and last night, made it to the White House.”

Ahmed is the darling of the political and media elites, and yet, according to a family friend, “Everybody’s vilifying him, and he’s not a villain.” Everybody? Obama and Zuckerberg and Clinton and Sergey Brin and Omar Bashir and Ban Ki-moon and the Queen of Jordan are vilifying him? The mainstream media, with its endless series of weepy creepy pieces denouncing the school and glorifying Ahmed — they’re vilifying him?

Probably the family friend is referring to those who have pointed out that the school officials acted in a manner consistent with how school officials act, and that therefore the “Islamophobia” charge was unwarranted and the adulation of the boy misplaced. But to note those things is not to “vilify” the boy, and in any case, what are a few counter-jihad writers — who ourselves are genuinely vilified on a routine basis by the mainstream media — compared to the entire media establishment and the President of the United States? As the gifts stream in from Microsoft and Google, and Presidents and monarchs line up to shake his hand, Ahmed is traumatized by a few posts on Jihad Watch and PamelaGeller.com, and the other sites that have met the media narrative with skepticism?

This ridiculous claim, and maybe even the move to Qatar as well, is likely related to the family’s earlier and equally ridiculous claim that Ahmed, grinning broadly in photo after photo as he meets the world’s elites, has been “severely traumatized” by all this. They gave us that howler as they retained lawyers. Now, moving to Qatar to get away from the wave of “Islamophobia” that has engulfed the boy, they will likely be looking for those lawyers to deliver for them the coup de grace of this whole silly affair: a big payday.

We will be hearing more from Ahmed and his family.

Ahmed Mohamed Obama

“‘Clock kid’ Ahmed Mohamed and his family will move to Qatar,” by Jessica Contrera, Washington Post, October 20, 2015 (thanks to Paul):

Less than 24 hours after Ahmed Mohamed met President Obama, his family decided it’s time to leave America for good.

The 14-year-old Texas boy who was arrested for bringing to school a homemade clock that authorities said resembled a bomb will soon be living in Qatar.

“After careful consideration of all the generous offers received, we would like to announce that we have accepted a kind offer from Qatar Foundation for Education, Science and Community Development (QF) for Ahmed to join the prestigious QF Young Innovators Program, which reflects the organization’s on-going dedication to empowering young people and fostering a culture of innovation and creativity,” the family said in a news release Tuesday….

President Obama personally invited the teen after his arrest last month, reaching out to him via Twitter. The president was one of many who spoke out about the implications of a 14-year-old Muslim boy accused of building a bomb, put in handcuffs and pulled out a school. Once it was discovered that the “bomb” was only a digital clock the young innovator built himself, the Irving Police said they would not be charging Ahmed with any crime.

But the spark had already been lit; Ahmed’s story went viral, with the hashtag #IStandWithAhmed bringing out legions of supporters including Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton and Google co-founder Sergey Brin. Tweets, think pieces and daytime TV segments were dedicated to dissecting how Ahmed’s situation typified racism and Islamaphobia in America.

After withdrawing from school in Texas, the boy’s family embraced the opportunities that came from his brush with the law. He visited the Google Science Fair, met with Sudan’s President Omar al Bashir, posed with the queen of Jordan at a United Nations Summit, appeared on the “Doctor Oz” show and last night, made it to the White House.

He was among 300 visitors to “Astronomy Night,” a celebration of science and learning. Bill Nye the Science Guy was there, along with a number of standout students who have been recognized for scientific achievements throughout the country. Though some of those students received shoutouts during President Obama’s comments, there was no mention of Ahmed in the audience. That didn’t stop reporters from shouting to him from behind the rope lines: “Ahmed! How are you feeling?”

Perhaps that’s the question that has been left out of the viral hubbub: What has this been like for Ahmed? To go from a run-of-the-mill 14-year-old to an international symbol for stereotyping in America?

In a phone interview on Tuesday, Ahmed’s 19-year-old sister Eyman said he’s under a pressure they never imagined. It can be a good pressure: “It’s like now he’s motivated to work harder than every before,” she said. “Because people are going to be waiting to see what happened to that 14 year old kid.”

And a bad one: “It’s been really hard. Everything happens for a reason, but there’s so much stuff being said that isn’t true. . . ”

Eyman was referring to a number of conspiracy theories that appeared on the Internet about his arrest. Most attest that the incident was a pre-planned plot to get attention. Some of that skepticism stems from claims against Ahmed’s father, Mohamed Elhassan, who has run for president of Sudan and was present during a high-profile Koran burning in Florida. Bond, the family friend, said the conspiracies are why Ahmed doesn’t want to go to school in America.

“Everybody’s vilifying him, and he’s not a villain. He’s a 14 year old boy,” Bond said. “The whole world was concerned about this, and it’s impossible that anyone could have expected this international reaction.”…

Ahmed’s sister Eyman said the Middle East won’t feel too different from the U.S., except that the family will be surrounded by Muslims like themselves….

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  1. marc says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    lol, Qataris bought into the lie that he’s a child genius and are hoping that importing him will give them a shot at a nobel science prize, that rare commodity amongst muslim states.

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 2:02 am

      He stuffed clock parts and wires in a box and acted dodgy about it until school officials took his bait.

      He may not be a (scientific genius) but, he is a political genius for milking the cow of political correctness until it mooed into submission.

      • Wiser Monkeys says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 4:12 am

        Well said – the most succinct summary of the scam I have read.
        You may also be interested in seeing how another (much more tragic) situation was exploited; see our fresh take on Alan Kurdi’s death at http://wisermonkeys.uk/boyonbeach.html

  2. Stephanie says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:15 pm

    Good, let him go work on their Mars space program. /

    We dont need him building anything or having any input into our space programs, genius that he is. Could you imagine? Smh.

  3. abad says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    Qatar is a MUCH better place for Muslims to be than in the United States of America.

    Good riddance Alishak don’t call us we won’t call you.

  4. Stephanie says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:22 pm

    The sister said it all…people will be waiting to see if he is the NASA-dreaming tinkering smart kid….or a dupe who isn’t too bright at all used by CAIR….and others….guess they figured they better hightail it outta the country now before the truth is discovered and their hard work of fooling the kafir is revealed for all to see.

  5. Ed says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:23 pm

    May he stay there, and invent a vest.

    • Cy Halothrin (@cyhalothrin) says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 9:04 pm

      Funniest comment of the week!

    • Vlad says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 9:18 pm

      Just think 🙂 a suicide belt/vest that protects the martyr ‘er from committing suicide, but still killing and maiming hundreds of innocent people around him.
      Surely worth a Prophet NOBEL prize?

      Problem is he’s got to wait to get at his 72 goat/sheep/camel virgins 🙂

  6. somehistory says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    First when reading the headline, my reaction was much the same as Mr. Spencer’s first line: I would wish to leave also, first boat out. Sometimes, it’s hard to stay put just seeing him on tv.

    Second, Texas won’t miss him when he’s gone. He most likely has a cell phone; he can tell someone who cares.

    Third, there have been many young people who had way too much attention at a time when they couldn’t handle it and reacted badly. This kid and his family expected all of this attention and when he gets to Q, he’ll be just another moslim in a moslim country. And his sister can wear a burqa.

  7. rubiconcrest says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    They realized he wasn’t going to win any lawsuit. They probably feared the discovery process. Moving to Qatar was the best handout.

  8. Jeremiah says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    The world is always looking for a good bomb maker or, failing that, little Ahmed can always be asked to strap one on. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh Taqiyya!

  9. Gary says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    The truly disturbing reality with regards to this “Clock Issue”, is that The President of The United States of America has basically stated: “If you see something, don’t say anything. Especially if the individual is muslim.”

    Am I outraged? Am I concerned that our own President takes lightly the security of our nation, my community, and my loved ones?

    One word: Boston.

    Yet what does our President say….

    “Move along. Nothing to see here.”

    Perhaps even worse….

    “Muslims are off limits. They’re my protected species.”

    Funny how kids that aren’t minorities don’t seem to grab the President’s attention.

    And before I’m crucified for making this statement….

    I’m black.

  10. Terry Gain says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Ahmed’s arrest was not a hysterical over-reaction. This is what he alleges. He, a Muslim, showed up school with what looked like a bomb. The school authorities and the police acted prudently. I am disturbed to see the great Robert Spencer not standing form on what was obviously Muslim agit-prop.. Good grief,

    • somehistory says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 8:40 pm

      I, too, think the arrest was correct. He refused to talk and he had taken something to class, set it off and it was a device that looked like a bomb…even to the first teacher he showed it to. And evidently, this wasn’t his first time to make trouble at school. If he hadn’t gotten the reaction he did, the question would be, what would have happened next?

  11. mgoldberg says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    If he’d only take obummer with him….

  12. Custos Custodum says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    Right now, there is an “URGENT” memo on Honolulu-Barry’s desk congratulating Barry on the success of the joint White House-CAIR “Operation Clockmed.”

    However, in paragraph 2, the memo is emphatic about the need to make Ahmed disappear from the public eye IMMEDIATELY.

    Another memo from the same author (with several others) is entitled “Clockmed 2.0 Action Proposal” and lists various proposals to step up the crash program to flaunt the power of Barry’s propaganda machine to define reality itself.

    • fidobite says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 10:09 pm

      Bingo!

  13. Jeremiah says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    Barack is fondly remembering his first Taqiyya. The days when he was still Barry Sotoro or before that. maybe the days when he didn’t have a name? Or the days before he had a birth certificate? There is a lot of good Taqiyya that goes into developing an identity. As a good Muslim you cannot even drink it. Like Bill Clinton says, you can only exhale it and its not sex when you do it that way. Yes Barack is a good role model for Ahmed. Have another Taqiyya. When you come back from Qatar, just join the Democrats. Plenty of good Taqiyya there.

    • fidobite says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 10:10 pm

      Bingo again!

  14. Nancy says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    How very nice of them. Let’s do the same thing to the remaining 7 million. I bet you the welfare customers are not leaving.

  15. Nancy says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    Now folks for the sake of one shoe bomber we ALL MUST TAKE OFF OUR SHOES every time we go to the airport – do you realize the cost and the inconvenience to all of us ?
    WHY IS IT THAT THIS fake scientist is so distinguished ?

    • fidobite says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 10:22 pm

      Because we are living in a world infected with a virulent form of self-destructive PC’ism. After centuries of attempts to subdue Western nations with clashing armies insidious islamo-satanism finds itself staring at an open Western door with ignorant lib-progs offering handouts and accolades to their conquers. Insanity.

    • mortimer says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 10:33 pm

      All digital clocks will be suspect as well. Seiko watches are the favorites of 9 out 10 jihadists…they can be used to set off bombs. Airport security should be looking for Seiko watches as well.

  16. Shawna says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    I’m so sick of this kid he is traumatized? What about the veterans that last saw a bomb looking identical to the one this kid had before losing their limbs. I think I speak for several Americans when I say we are tired of our country being compromised by allowing these terrorists to bed down and try to over run us using out optically correct system against us playing us like a fiddle.

  17. Westman says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    “…Once it was discovered that the “bomb” was only a digital clock the young innovator built himself…”

    When I was in high school a group of us were designing and building HAM radio transmitters and receivers, base 2 computers from old phone relays, unauthorized telephones, etc, and one was even building a color wheel TV all from surplus war electronics and whatever we could canabalize. Several of us took awards in the regional and state science fairs and one went to national. There was definitely some bizarre innovation in some of our designs. Fortunately, none of us were electrocuted while working with very high voltages and house current.

    After looking at what appears to be commercial circuit boards and a display mounted in a case with a battery backup connector and loose power xformer, the word “innovation” does not apply here unless one considers mounting a part of something in a case to be innovation.

    In listening to Ahmed speaking a script at a press conference, I’m not certain he really has the ability to obtain a degree in Engineering at an American university. It appears more that he is in the center of a conflict of cultures; his father exploiting the misunderstandings for profit and social gain.

    I wish the best for Ahmed, whose life will be the most damaged if the Qatar studies don’t go well. It seems to me that he is simply the football in the adult’s games.

    • Asian Crusader says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 9:26 pm

      Ahmed called the “seven segment displays” that display the time “number lights.”

      As Vaclav Havel and other dissidents under Communism have observed (and the Marquis de Custine noted in 1839), totalitarian governments intentionally force people to go along with RIDICULOUS lies.

      The point is not to convince anybody, but to create a climate where everyone becomes COMPLICIT in aiding and abetting the government’s suppression of truth and freedom. Each time the subject pronounces an official talking point or fails to object to blatantly false statements, he or she loses a piece of mental autonomy, i.e. liberty as a subject.

      • Westman says

        Oct 20, 2015 at 11:39 pm

        I wonder what term he uses for multiplexing (a method of exploiting the image persistence in the human eye by turning on the LED digits one at a time in rapid succession which appears as if all digits are on at the same time. Move an LED display quickly from side to side and you’ll see multiple images showing that they are not all on at once)? Number dancing?

        • Asian Crusader says

          Oct 21, 2015 at 1:31 am

          Easy – Ahmed calls it number polygamy.

          You can only drive one digit at a time. All digits remain under tight control. You can have one or two or three or four, and what your right hands possess.

        • Westman says

          Oct 21, 2015 at 2:38 am

          LOL!

          Very clever, Crusader. That should be in Arabic books on Electronics to help grasp the concept.

    • Huck Folder says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 11:05 pm

      I have previously commented on that too.
      There are thousands of American teens
      and even pre-teens who studied ham radio,
      built their own receivers and antennas, and
      did WAY MORE than Ahmedunce.

      I’m not aware of any of them getting invites
      to obuMBoy’s House.

  18. Angemon says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    Less than 24 hours after Ahmed Mohamed met President Obama, his family decided it’s time to leave America for good.

    Do Hillary next, Obama! Do Hillary next!

    “After careful consideration of all the generous offers received, we would like to announce that we have accepted a kind offer from Qatar Foundation for Education, Science and Community Development (QF) for Ahmed to join the prestigious QF Young Innovators Program, which reflects the organization’s on-going dedication to empowering young people and fostering a culture of innovation and creativity,” the family said in a news release Tuesday….

    What’s he going to to there? Take a pressure cooker bomb and stuff it into a pencil case? Pffffttttt. Go ahead, Ahmed – try to pull there the stunt you pulled in the US and see how they react.

  19. John Gehrke says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    It seems rather easy to see rash judgement and stereotyping in Ahmed’s case, yet the same is frequently directed at President Obama, claiming he is Muslim or has some anti-US agenda.

    • Asian Crusader says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 9:30 pm

      Thank Allah that Obama clarified this in his famous television address where he stated:

      “I, Barack Obama, am no longer a Muslim.”

      The video is right there on the Whitehouse homepage. Er, wait, can’t find it right now, but it must be on Youtube. Just give me a minute.

      Er, sorry, let me get back to you on this.

  20. Gary says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    I’d like to see The President of The United States of America invite a young women to The White House….

    https://youtu.be/q8E601ydP6s

    ……I won’t hold my breath.

  21. Cecilia Ellis says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    “[T]he Middle East won’t feel too different from the U.S., except that the family will be surrounded by Muslims like themselves….”

    Liars . . . thieves . . . whiners . . . supremacists . . .

  22. Islam_Macht_Frei says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    OMG!!!! How will we ever survive this incredible brain drain?!?!?!?

  23. celticwarriorcanada says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    Van Voyage Ahmed ! And don’t bother sending a Post Card because I’m sure we will be hearing from you in the future When You Become An Expert At Building IEDS . Kind of like that other Skilled Young islamic terrorist up here in Canada named Omar Khadr who also became An Over Night Sensation through the Assistance of The So Called Canadian Legal System and I almost forgot to mention all his friends and supporters at the C.B.C ! And Hay Man , it would really help you and your family ; if on your way you would stop over in Canada and Congratulate the New Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who will always Have Your Back And Support you in YOUR STRUGGLE !!! P.S. Good Riddance YA LITTLE PUKE !!!!!

  24. mortimer says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    Now isn’t this a win-win situation? Muslims living among other Muslims where they are supposed to be.

    They can have the misogyny and utopian Sharia law beheadings their stomachs can handle in most Muslim countries.

    Don’t come back. No one wants Muslims in their countries. Muslims cannot cope with freedom.

  25. Matthieu Baudin says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    Better some occasional overreaction by school officials and other members of the community, than under-reaction, in the current ongoing era of indiscriminate terrorism.

    • Jeremiah says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 12:19 am

      Actually they didn’t over-react. They should have asked him to dismantle the bomb and then asked him to stay there until he reassembled it, bringing him bread and water every 8 hours. Then we could be sure it wasnt a bomb and that he didnt assemble it and that he got no further publicity. Little Ahmed might have made some interesting confessions like “My dad was instructing me on jiziyya.”!

  26. gravenimage says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    Clock boy Ahmed Mohamed meets Obama, decides to move to Qatar
    …………………………………….

    Clearly, Qatar is so much freer than the bad ol’ “islamophobic” US.

    Let’s see–they are virtually enslaving workers building World Cup facilities, they flog people for alcohol consumption and “Zina”, Workplace injuries, including a shocking high number of deaths, are rife. Female workers, particularly domestics, are regularly raped by their employers and have little recourse.

    Blasphemy is punishable by up to seven years in prison and proselytizing can be punished by up to 10 years in prison.

    A poet recently received a 15-year sentence for “criticizing the Emir”.

    Ahmed’s sister Eyman will be forced to wear an Abaya. Dad Mohamed Mohamed will be able to take multiple wives,

    There is the death penalty for homosexuality and apostasy, and stoning is the penalty for “adultery”.

    Will anyone mention any of this? I very much doubt it…

    And what happens when Qatar realizes that Ahmed isn’t really much of an innovator? My guess is that they will be heading back to America with new “Islamophobia” schemes…

    • Jack Diamond says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 11:49 pm

      Gutter is only a problem for people who have to actually work i.e. slaves and indentured servants;
      and for ingrate apostates. For the rest there is the highest per capita income in the world, a growing colony called France, a swingin’ narcoterror scene, and all those Qatar-sponsored sports teams like Boko Haram (now the Islamic State), the Taliban, ISIS (now the Islamic State) and the Muslim Brotherhood. And the wholly corrupt and bribed 2022 FIFA World Cup too!

      Yes, the kid needs to move to Gutter to get away from conspiracies. Chuckle. Guffaw.

  27. Paul says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    Please do not come back here.

  28. G179 says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    Just a tip, Ahmed: Don’t board the plane with your invention.

  29. More Ham Ed says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:36 pm

    I would like to see a draw clock boy day contest and draw a muslim clock contest.

  30. simpleton says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    Famous pencil case digital clock inventor travels well, doing haj at mecca and meeting world class leaders, like Sudan President and then USA President and now off to Qatar for his studies

    Ahmed told the media he was “extremely delighted” to meet Bashir and said he hoped to meet the dictator of Sudan again “with a new invention and success,” reported the Sudan Tribune……
    ………Bashir is wanted on an International Criminal Court warrant for allegedly orchestrating war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity during the Darfur conflict starting in 2003. He has ruled unchallenged for 26 years.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/us/20151017/1028657274/ahmed-mohamed-visits-sudan-bashir.html#ixzz3p91NVT3c

    Great for Ahmed to put an arm around the great leader Bashir who receives 94.5% of the vote.

    • voegelinian says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 5:31 pm

      Thanks for the useful extra info. This is no hapless innocent American Muslim; this is a family performing a quite fabulous stealth jihad, enabled by all the Useful Idiots in and out of the Beltway who buoy up the stealth Marxist Obama.

      • quotha raven says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 7:38 pm

        To Voeg, who sez “…buoy up the stealth Marxist Obama.”

        R U KIDDIN ME? There’s nothing “stealthy” about his Marxism. What planet r u living on, Voeg?

        Cheers!

        quotha r

        • voegelinian says

          Oct 22, 2015 at 1:36 pm

          Most Americans apparently consider Obama to be just a liberal Democrat. He can’t do Marxist activism — i.e. what he would really want to do — nakedly; he thus has to cloak it in language of liberal Democratic rhetoric, because most of those around him enabling him are not anywhere as extremist as he is. My diagnosis of the situation makes sense — unless one translates all PC MC into evil Leftism (which, given the fact that PC MC is maisntream and dominant socipolitically, would be, effectively, to say America is evil except for a Remnant hukering down stockpiling water & ammo waiting for the Mad Max Apocalypse).

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 10:38 pm

      Yeah–Bashir has been enslaving Christians and running a genocide against his black countrymen for decades now.

      Mohamed Mohamed–Ahmed’s father–never said if he would have ended these policies had he been elected president of Sudan.

  31. keith says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 12:22 am

    … does anybody know whether he and his family need a ride to the airport..? I could free up some time for that…

    • voegelinian says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 5:33 pm

      No need; Ahmed’s 17 uncles run “Habibi Taxi Emporium” in the tri-state area.

      • quotha raven says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 7:40 pm

        To Voeg – RFLOL about the Habibi Taxi Emporium. Knew it well! Totally LOL. Cheers! qr

  32. keith says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 12:30 am

    … looks like we’ve finally discovered a remedy for the Muslim problem in this country… hate them until they leave… and if the politically correct think that’s racist, wouldn’t they agree it’s less drastic than shooting them..?!!

    • Mahmoud says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 5:05 am

      Do you personally know a single muslim?

      • Miao Zedong says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 5:59 am

        There are no “muslims”. Just paganized jewish heretics, withouth christian clemency and modern rationality.

        My very personal opinion.

      • Aardvark says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 6:13 am

        Mahmoud asked “Do you personally know a single muslim?”

        I’ve worked alongside a number of mohammedans.

        Some of them were single, some were married.

        ALL of them were lazy, dishonest, sullen and arrogant. None were worthy of friendship.

        • Jay Boo says

          Oct 21, 2015 at 9:04 am

          I have not met many lazy Muslims but dishonest intentions, sullen and arrogant sounds about right.

      • Scott M says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 7:02 am

        What has THAT to do with it? Get off!

      • Susan B says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 7:11 am

        When you know islam you know muslims. Islam is the problem so that makes the followers a problem.

      • Gary says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 9:00 am

        Mahmoud,

        Do you personally know a single Muslim that has stood up to the human rights injustice perpetrated on women – worldwide!? Do you personally know a single muslim that has taken a stand against the violence towards Jews & Christians – worldwide? Do you personally know a single Muslim willing to tell the truth about Jihad? Or is your question merely another form of Al-Taqiyya?

      • voegelinian says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 5:35 pm

        I don’t personally know any German Nazis or any Ku Klux Klanners — but that doesn’t mean I can’t condemn their viciously pernicious ideologies and any followers who enable those viciously pernicious ideologies.

        • Oliver says

          Oct 23, 2015 at 8:33 pm

          Vogel–you are TOTALLY CORRECT.

          I have known a few Muslims–none worth a damn-all creeps; and tried to rip off everyone.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 10:42 pm

        Mahmoud wrote:

        Do you personally know a single muslim?
        …………………….

        Mahmoud, the last Muslims I got close to admitted that they supported stoning for “adultery” and believed that “Jesus” in the last days would kill Christians if they did not convert to Islam.

        Is this the sort of thing you had in mind?

        • Angemon says

          Oct 22, 2015 at 11:57 am

          I believe, GI, that what Mahmoud has in mind are the dawah artists – the proselytizing individuals who speak in a low voice how islam is all about peace and love and treat you to some nice kebab, lulling you into complacency and believing that one can learn about a religion not by reading its texts but by ascribing to it the actions of their followers. Of course, even in such individuals, the signs are there, if you know what to look for.

    • tex says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 5:50 am

      Which hate? They do it all!
      Anybody can finish handcuffed by delivering to school a suspicious device as a surprise.
      Passive attitude can make it worse and make the genius a perfect victim.
      While minorities get killed and seriusly persecuted for much less, this story is pathetic and clearly another piece of punctual tic-tac propaganda.

    • Dacritic says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 9:45 am

      Something just hit me. This “clock boy” story is the epitome of Islam. A lie, which is somewhat related to the truth but still a lie nonetheless, being repeated over and over again until it is being taken as the truth. Those who refuse to acknowledge or accept he did not invent anything would keep saying he built a clock.

      Likewise, those who refuse to study Muhammad’s life would shut their eyes and keep saying he is a good man, the perfect example for mankind, I don’t care what the Sira or the Hadith say, I don’t care that he married a six-year-old, I don’t care that he robbed caravans and collected jizya, I don’t care that he slaughtered 800 Jews in one day, you guys who say this are all liars, taking things out of context, I don’t care what you say…

      HE WAS A PERFECT MAN!!!

    • Oliver says

      Oct 22, 2015 at 7:22 pm

      The PC can leave with the Muslims

  33. James says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 12:45 am

    Bye bye Ahmed et al, Don’t ever come back. If you were to ask me if I hate muslims, I will answer honestly… of course I do! What’s not to hate? Their backwardness? their barbarism? their insufferable arrogance? their beastly death cult? Islam is the greatest source of evil on the plantet. they are angerous primitive savages completely out of place in the modern world and a civilized democratic country. We should offer all US muslims a free one way ticket to visit and move in with Ahmed and his daddy. It would be the first really worthwhile use of tax money in ages!

  34. Katnis says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 1:00 am

    Good Riddance

    • spot on says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 6:27 am

      The Clock Boy knows how to take an old clock apart, expose the wiring, and conceal it in a suitcase (to fool the kaffirs) but doesn’t yet know how to attach the explosive and detonater. The Middle East is a perfect place to further his,…. shall we say, ….. “education”.

      • Robert Lippincott says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 6:30 am

        they will teach him and then send him back to work for Obummer

      • Oliver says

        Oct 23, 2015 at 8:37 pm

        And hopefully, it will go off with him, his instructors and his family and many of his fwllow Muslims-so they can all go and get their virgin ewes.

  35. Rev g says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 1:20 am

    I guess it may be a good time for them to leave …they must understand the ramifications of this clock stunt for school security in this country.

  36. sidney penny says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 1:40 am

    Without knowing the facts Obama invited the clock builder.

    So too late to withdraw the invitation now that he knows the facts

    • Veronica says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 5:59 am

      I was a bit concerned about the ‘visit the White House’ thing – but notice that he was just one kid among lots of others – and the President seemed not to take much notice of him – so maybe they realized after the original ‘flap’ that he wasn’t quite the ‘little inventor’ that he had been made out to be. I think they sidelined him actually ! Hope he enjoys his indoctrination in Qatar !

      • Custos Custodum says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 11:28 am

        A Tweet from Obama does not just happen. Dozens of educated and highly-paid people are involved in assessing the propaganda, sorry “narrative” implications over the short and long term, optimizing the wording, timing etc.

        Federal law enforcement officials knew from the first second that this was yet another Muslim supremacist stunt – remember the “flying Imams” – but in view of the thick pro-Islamic “progressive” atmosphere throughout the 0 administration decided to keep quiet.

        As for Ahmed himself, he is clearly not smart enough to become anything other than an embarrassment. Perhaps one of his handlers will arrange for an “accident” to avoid more damage to the cause of World Islamization.

  37. Rob says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 2:19 am

    If authorities at Ft Hood had intervened when the good Major first showed murderous tendencies we might not have gotten into the situation of mass murder.
    Better to have a few ‘false positives’ than many ‘false negatives’.
    Coming on top of the weekend’s events in Canada I am so pessimistic about our readiness to resist.

    • Rob says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 2:20 am

      Correction:mass ‘workplace violence’.

    • voegelinian says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 5:43 pm

      “Better to have a few ‘false positives’ than many ‘false negatives’.”

      Given the dangers we reasonably suppose are in the planning stages (viz., horrific terror attacks worse than 911, using WMDs of various kinds, including chemical, biological, radioactive, and other ingenious ways to mass-murder people which only psychopaths obsessed with “enemies” — i.e., garden-variety Muslims — would have the time or inclination to devise), it’s even wise to reverse * tweak Rob’s formula I quoted — “Better to have many ‘false positives’ in order to prevent just a few ‘false negatives”. Unless, like some of the Counter-Jihad Softies, you’re willing to play Muslim Roulette with your life, the lives of your loved ones, the lives of your friends, the lives of your fellow citizens, and the lives of generations to come just so you can pat yourself on the back and congratulate yourself for not being too “bigoted” against Brown People.

      Muslim Roulette
      http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2011/12/muslim-roulettehttpwwwbloggercomimgblan.html

      • Rob says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 7:31 pm

        I guess it’s public tolerance for false positives in the end.
        It’s like the interned Japanese in the US during WW2.
        Now the US makes grovelling apologies and statements of regret.
        BUT on the day would any government been content to say ‘Japanese on US soil? Move along – nothing to see here’.
        Right now I see very little tolerance for false +ves and I wonder how many rapes by refugees, murders and demands for this and that will force governments to say the collateral damage from such a high-minded project is electorally too much to bear.
        That’s why I am so disappointed by Canada.

        • voegelinian says

          Oct 22, 2015 at 1:58 pm

          “Right now I see very little tolerance for false +ves and I wonder how many rapes by refugees, murders and demands for this and that will force governments to say the collateral damage from such a high-minded project is electorally too much to bear.”

          It’s reasonable to suppose that the Denial is far worse than this — that only after a few million of us in various places throughout the West are mass-murdered by Muslims in various terror attacks, will we begin to cultivate an appropriate response. But at that point it will no longer be proactive with reasoned deliberation, but rather accelerated in reaction to the tumultuously horrific, and chaotic, catastrophe of the Shit Hitting the Fan. The longer we wait and continue to cultivate attitudes of Giving Muslims The Benefit of the Doubt Presumed Innocent Until Proven Guilty, the more likely the aforementioned catastophe will devolve; and the worse it devolves depends on how long we wait and cultivate the kinds of retardant attitudes counseled in various irresponsibly vague ways by the Counter-Jihad Softies; and the worse it devolves will make it more likely that we will be forced by those tumultuously horrific shit-hitting-the-fan circumstances to do massively violent things to Muslims. Silly me, but I’d like for us, the West, to avoid that as much as possible.

        • Angemon says

          Oct 22, 2015 at 4:25 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “The longer we wait and continue to cultivate attitudes of Giving Muslims The Benefit of the Doubt Presumed Innocent Until Proven Guilty”

          Oh, you mean we’re not supposed to enforce our laws an culture anymore? But I’ll bite: suppose I see a muslim walking down the street. What’s he guilty of, and how can I prove it? In short, how can one put into practice your “guilty until proven innocent” “meme”, and what should we expect to come of it?

          “the more likely the aforementioned catastophe will devolve; and the worse it devolves depends on how long we wait and cultivate the kinds of retardant attitudes counseled in various irresponsibly vague ways by the Counter-Jihad Softies; and the worse it devolves will make it more likely that we will be forced by those tumultuously horrific shit-hitting-the-fan circumstances to do massively violent things to Muslims. Silly me, but I’d like for us, the West, to avoid that as much as possible.”

          How does that work alongside your “must push the Total Deportation meme not because we want to do something tomorrow but because we’re thinking in the long run something must be done”

      • Angemon says

        Oct 22, 2015 at 11:49 am

        voegelinian posted:

        “Unless, like some of the Counter-Jihad Softies, you’re willing to play Muslim Roulette with your life, the lives of your loved ones, the lives of your friends, the lives of your fellow citizens, and the lives of generations to come just so you can pat yourself on the back and congratulate yourself for not being too “bigoted” against Brown People.”

        Do you have a list of who these “Counter-Jihad Softies” are and an sort of admission that they’re willing to ” play Muslim Roulette” with “the lives of your loved ones, the lives of your friends, the lives of your fellow citizens, and the lives of generations to come”, and that they’re doing so because they don’t want to be “too “bigoted” against Brown People”?

        Also how much is “too bigoted”? And who are these “Brown People” you speak of?

        • Godless says

          Oct 22, 2015 at 10:06 pm

          “Do you have a list of who these “Counter-Jihad Softies” are and an sort of admission that they’re willing to ” play Muslim Roulette” with “the lives of your loved ones, the lives of your friends, the lives of your fellow citizens, and the lives of generations to come”, and that they’re doing so because they don’t want to be “too “bigoted” against Brown People”? ”

          You are one of them Angemon. You have pointed out yourself that there is not a way to distinguish between Muslims that are a threat but are practicing deception and the people who call themselves Muslims but are sincerely peaceful. Do you not understand that some of those Muslims that you want assume innocent until proven guilty are going to fucking attack? Angemon why do you think you feel the need to protect Muslims by attacking Voeg? Clearly you are in denial that PC MC is making you defend Muslims (brown people in Angemon’s mind). So explain what your impulse to defend Muslims is stemming from?

        • Angemon says

          Oct 23, 2015 at 10:04 am

          voeg’s mouthpiece posted:

          “You are one of them Angemon.”

          Who are the rest? I asked you for a list, not a name. Plus, I asked you proof as well. Where’s the proof of what you state?

          “Do you not understand that some of those Muslims that you want assume innocent until proven guilty are going to fucking attack?”

          Explain exactly how assuming guilt until proven innocence prevents attacks. Let’s say I’m walking down the street and I see a muslim. What should I do? Assume I’m carrying a weapon.

          “Angemon why do you think you feel the need to protect Muslims by attacking Voeg?”

          This is blatantly false. I don’t protect muslims and I don’t attack voeg. This is exactly voegelinian’s “logic”: if you criticize him (or, in his Orwellian doublespeak, “attack” him) or his ideas then you’re defending muslims. It’s the last ditch desperate effort of someone incapable to survive in the open marketplace of ideas – demonize dissenting voices. It’s remarkably similar, in nature, to how muslims and leftists act.

          “Clearly you are in denial that PC MC is making you defend Muslims (brown people in Angemon’s mind).”

          Lol! Voeg, and you by proxy, are the proponents of the “brow people” theory, not me. Again, in clear voegelinian-esque fashion, you’re ascribing me something that’s absolutely false and for which you have no evidence. It’s even more grotesque because I’ve criticized that theory of yours. And very successfully, I might ad, to the point where you argued yourself into a wall and need to resort to numbers, as I explained somewhere else:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/canada-election-networks-call-victory-for-liberals-and-trudeau/comment-page-2#comment-1313689

          “So explain what your impulse to defend Muslims is stemming from?”

          Again, ascribing me falsehoods and hoping people will believe it. You and voeg have been throughly discredited by now, and all you have left is slinging crap around, like monkeys with their feces. Smell your hands, Godless. Smell them.

  38. Robert_K says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 4:07 am

    If only Obama had recognized the talents of Nidal Hassan SOA (Soldier of Allah) before Fort Hood. like he did with Ahmed the ClockMeister. He could have invited him to the White House and perhaps got him shipped off to be with his Muslim soulmates Sudan’s President Omar al Bashir or the Emir of Qatar.

  39. Scorpio says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 5:11 am

    Like many people who are sick to death with PC claptrap and knee-jerk hypocrisy, we know full well that Islam and its followers cannot accept that there are others on this planet that do not hold with their beliefs nor have they any interest in living under the oppresive Shria system.

    Why do they wish to live in the West? As they clearly think Shria is best why don’t they move to a country that practices this form of governance; there are plenty so just go! If they require financial help to travel to these wretched backwaters I can guarantee the rest of us would gladly provide the necessary funds and even come along to the airport to wave them off.

    • Miao Zedong says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 6:04 am

      Clever people make clever choices and we are fortunate to have a publicly known case proving that going to a muslim country is recommendable for muslims.

      We all should respect that and show the path to others.

  40. George S. says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 5:18 am

    Good. The Ahmad boy and his family are thinking of leaving the USA and going to Qatar? Good, I say. and good riddance to rubbish. What a bloody scam, and the media (MSM) and Obummer fell for it before checking the boy out and his motives and his father’s motives. Stinks to hell. Bye, Ahmad and family, and don’t come back. Taqqiyah and scamming is not welcome in the USA now.

  41. Tom W Harris says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 5:25 am

    Maybe it’s Obama’s breath.

  42. No Fear says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 5:28 am

    If he pulls the same clock trick in Qatar what would happen to him?

    • tex says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 6:05 am

      Do not know, but after three major inventions a couple of avenues might be at reach: a Nobel for Peace or a political power hit in a free country of choice.

  43. Miao Zedong says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:02 am

    His departure for Qatar is a real loss to the scientific community and the clockmakers guild.

    Imagine all the cool inventions that might have benefited google, if they had him under his wing. Imagine the missed chance of showing his talent(s) in a stimulating Harvard or MIT environment.

    I’m crying for the missed opportunities.

  44. Laura says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 6:04 am

    How does the taking apart of an old digital clock and putting it into a box make this little nerd a hero? Oh, I forgot, it’s because he’s a muslim!

    • Homo Electronicus says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 11:42 am

      Please do not misuse the honorable appellation “nerd.”

      Ahmed is POSitively not a “nerd.”

      Incidentally, Ahmed’s sister (19 year old Eyman – previously threatened to blow up her school) and his mother (who still refuses to wear a hijab) will both bitterly resent being back in the Arab-Muslim world where women are mere chattels. If they are smart, they will stay in the U.S. and play-act at being devout Muslims in public.

      0bama’s machine will set up the two women with scholarships, welfare and free housing so they can focus on the noble task of ululating about “Islamophobia” without having to dirty their hands with work.

      • Oliver says

        Oct 23, 2015 at 8:47 pm

        Why the hell would anyone ( with sense) want his sister WHO THREATENED TO BLOW UP THE SCHOOL, and his mother-regardless of what she will or will not wear, want them here?

        At 19-she is old enough-past being old enough by 6 or 7 years to start producing little potential terrorists.

        Ship them the hell out.

        • Nancy says

          Oct 24, 2015 at 10:30 pm

          LOVED IT

  45. epistemology says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:02 am

    Good riddance! It’s all blown out of proportion as usual when muzzies play the victim card. If it had been anybody else who was arrested on account of a suspicious object that they were carrying, nobody would be interested, no media, no social network, no politician. That stupid little twat can reinvent the wheel in Qatar America can do without him.

  46. ich says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:12 am

    hahahah the clock was ridiculous.

    I would be shocked if they moved to Qatar.

    But I hope they do.

    Bye bye

    Allah Akhbar over there not here

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 10:48 pm

      You are likely correct, Ich–a threat to move to Qatar because the poor lambs are supposedly so traumatized by the “Islamophobia” here, does not mean they will actually go. Things are probably too cushy here with the foolish appeasing dhimmis.

  47. duh_swami says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:26 am

    Yes,Qarar Where the grass is greener, the sky bluer and life is beautiful all the time. Qatar could be the new Mecca for US Mahoundians who feel disenfranchised, picked on, abused and insulted. Don’t wait until Qatar is filled up, beat the rush, go today…

    • Robert Lippincott says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 7:28 am

      I think we should pay for the tickets for him/his family and all others to send them home, but not to the US

  48. sally says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:40 am

    They can put whatever spin they like on it. That meeting with darfur’s genocidal dictator was the issue. Us interests in Sudan not aligned with Bashir. He’s all on with china. If clockboys father was running against Bashir and he’s all in with Obama and his brothers then that whole thing must have gone sour. Probably because the family is a bunch of loose cannons.

  49. Jaladhi says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:50 am

    Good riddance, if they move to Qatar!1 I think they are not moving there, it is just a publicity ploy to further their goal of vilifying USA, the country that gave them shelter. Such is the Islamic gratitude to non-Muslims for helping them.

  50. wallace says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:51 am

    Maybe Ahmed’s daddy Mo Mo can see if he can become the new Emir of Qatar.

  51. Mahmoud says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:53 am

    A 14 year-old boy builds something, probably in order to seek the approval of his peers and teacher. Instead the teacher gets him arrested, he’s interrogated and put in handcuffs. Can you not see how such an experience can be traumatising for a 14 year-old boy?

    That some high-profile people show support may help, but it does not erase the experience. And when you and others continuously ridicule him, lessen his technical achievement, and even accuse him of being some kind of master conspirator you’re adding to his trauma. That you’re now ridiculing his claim to pain is nothing but juvenile cyber-bullying.

    I am offended by comments such as “good riddance”. This a boy who has not meant nor committed harm to anyone. Can you not see the pain such comments would cause this boy if he were to read them? Maybe you just don’t care. Why do you want him out of the country? Purely for his muslimness? Should each person not be judged by their own actions?

    I think that you, in your hard counter-jihad work, sometimes forget that you’re actually writing about human beings. And in this case, a sensitive 14 year-old boy, who has done nothing wrong.

    • sally says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 8:00 am

      Youre right he’s just a boy being unconsciounably manipulated by his father and CAIR. Let’s hope he grows up, leaves his hideous religion and speaks out. He’s such a cute kid and nobody denies it

    • Robert Lippincott says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 8:11 am

      are you nuts? this is what/or could be a “Dry Run” you are missing the message;. may be you should to with them when they leave. You are part of the problem. try pulling you heard out of your a__ and see the sun shine.

    • R says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 8:51 am

      @Mahmoud

      I know most Muslims are illiterate, so have someone read and explain Spencer’s comments to you.

    • Angemon says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 1:17 pm

      Mahmoud posted:

      “A 14 year-old boy builds something”

      What exactly did he build, Mahmoud? He took a store-bought clock and placed it inside a pencil case.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV4UjY0Zv3k

      “probably in order to seek the approval of his peers and teacher.”

      His story changed and contradicted itself. I recommend you read his interviews and see for yourself.

      “Instead the teacher gets him arrested, he’s interrogated and put in handcuffs.”

      The teacher did not get him arrested. The teacher did the right thing – reported something suspect. The police took him in because he refused to answer their questions and acted passive-aggressive. Lil’ Ahmed brought it on himself.

      “And when you and others continuously ridicule him, lessen his technical achievement,”

      What technical achievement would that be? Taking a store bought clock from its case and placing it in a pencil case? That might be impressive for someone following a science-suppressing religion, but not for regular Westerner folks, especially the technically-gifted ones.

      “and even accuse him of being some kind of master conspirator you’re adding to his trauma.”

      Sadly for your sob story, we make our decisions based on evidence, not on victimology 101.

      “That you’re now ridiculing his claim to pain is nothing but juvenile cyber-bullying.”

      Really? How?

      “I am offended by comments such as “good riddance”. ”

      Your offense and $4.55 buys you a Caramel Flan Latte at Starbucks. Or just the $4.55 – take your pick.

      “This a boy who has not meant nor committed harm to anyone.”

      Except for the teacher he scared. And for anyone involved who received threats.

      “Can you not see the pain such comments would cause this boy if he were to read them?”

      Think of it as a “character building experience”.

      “Maybe you just don’t care. Why do you want him out of the country? Purely for his muslimness? Should each person not be judged by their own actions?”

      Like I said, he brought it on himself – he’s being judged by is own actions.

      “I think that you, in your hard counter-jihad work, sometimes forget that you’re actually writing about human beings.”

      Yes, I’ll try to keep that in mind the next time a muslim kills someone in a horrific way – God forbids I hurt the feelings a murderer…

      “And in this case, a sensitive 14 year-old boy, who has done nothing wrong.”

      Well, he did nothing, I’ll give you that – he certainly did not build a clock, contrary to what popular opinion would have us believe:

      • voegelinian says

        Oct 23, 2015 at 5:06 pm

        Angemon’s dissection of Mahmoud is pretty good, but at one point he slips into one of his bad habits which he routinely falls into whenever he’s zooming in (hundreds of times by now over the past two years) to pester my comments:

        Quoting Mahmoud —

        “Maybe you just don’t care. Why do you want him out of the country? Purely for his muslimness? Should each person not be judged by their own actions?”

        Angemon responds:

        Like I said, he brought it on himself – he’s being judged by is own actions.

        That’s slyly evading Mahmoud’s point at that juncture, which can be paraphrased as a question: Does what the Clock Boy did — even the sum total — plus or minus his Muslimness, warrant kicking him out of the country? That’s really the crux that divides the Counter-Jihad Softies (aka “Asymptotics”) from the Holistics. The latter advocate total deportation on the basis that Muslims are in the name of Islam waging war against us now and killing us (and when not directly killing, enabling that killing in myriad seditious ways through stealth jihad), a war that portends far more horrific consequences in the coming decades if we don’t do something about the millions of Muslims swimming & percolating throughout the various Body Politics of Western societies. The former advocate apparently an indefinite modus vivendi, expecting that the millions of Muslims in the West (sure to increase in numbers as the West continues to remain pleasantly somnambulant, grinning with buck teeth and sleepy crossed eyes at the sun of Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism when not distracted by butterflies flitting about its collective head) will not get horribly worse, and will not increasingly destabilize our societies into horrific civil unrest, even conquer a country or two (does anyone who has been reading — really reading — Jihad Watch (supplemented by other ghastly reports in other news venues) over the years doubt the horrifying probability that a country like France, perhaps, could fall to Muslim control in the next approximately 50 years?

        • Angemon says

          Oct 23, 2015 at 7:16 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “Angemon’s dissection of Mahmoud is pretty good, but at one point he slips into one of his bad habits which he routinely falls into whenever he’s zooming in (hundreds of times by now over the past two years) to pester my comments”

          Let’s play a game called “spot the lies”. You’re stating that I zoom in on your posts, even though I’ve denied that and explained why it’s false (hint: most of my posts on JW are not replies to you). Then comes the “two years” remark. Can you point any interaction between us dating back to 2013? No, you can’t – I’ve asked you before, still waiting to hear from you on that one. So another lie. Finally, about me allegedly “pestering ” you. This is an open forum. Ideas are discussed and made to stand on their merits. If you consider questioning you about your ideas to be “pestering” you then that doesn’t bode well for you and your ideas – what you want, much like muslims, is a privileged status that grants you protection from criticism.

          Anyway, let me guess: you’re setting up for another of your ramblings decrying me and the other people you consider to be “softies”, and to claim that somehow we don’t “get it” while you, and only you, do. That’s it, isn’t it? It’s not about whether or not what I said of Mahmoud is right or wrong, it’s about setting yourself up not by your own merit but by s***ting on everyone else. As usual with you.

          “That’s slyly evading Mahmoud’s point at that juncture, which can be paraphrased as a question: Does what the Clock Boy did — even the sum total — plus or minus his Muslimness, warrant kicking him out of the country?”

          Ah, so this is about your seditious “total deportation” nonsense. Funny how you want to exclude his “muslimness” when that’s the only factor which determines who gets deported and who doesn’t.

          “That’s really the crux that divides the Counter-Jihad Softies (aka “Asymptotics”) from the Holistics.”

          Called it.

          “The latter advocate total deportation on the basis that Muslims are in the name of Islam waging war against us now and killing us (and when not directly killing, enabling that killing in myriad seditious ways through stealth jihad), a war that portends far more horrific consequences in the coming decades if we don’t do something about the millions of Muslims swimming & percolating throughout the various Body Politics of Western societies.”

          Apparently, this “total deportation” thingy doesn’t need things like “due process” or “evidence”. Apparently, things are supposed to go like this:

          “Hey, you’re a nice guy, and I’ve been investigating you for years now, and there’s no link I can made between you and any islamic terror group, and I have nothing to show to prove, or even hint, that you’re a potential threat. But you’re a muslim, and you have to go, because you’re waging war against me, and you’re killing me, so you gotta go.”

          Nah – just kidding. Years investigating an individual to see if he’s a threat? As if – just take an American citizen and, based on his religion, decide whether he’s free to go about his life or tossed off a plane somewhere else to become someone else’s problem.. That’s how you’d do it, isn’t it, voeg?

          It’s funny that you call yourself “Holistic” when you decide who’s thrown on a plane and dropped over Sudan based not on their actions – on their wholeness, if you may – but on one part of them: their professed religion.

          “The former advocate apparently an indefinite modus vivendi, expecting that the millions of Muslims in the West (sure to increase in numbers as the West continues to remain pleasantly somnambulant, grinning with buck teeth and sleepy crossed eyes at the sun of Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism when not distracted by butterflies flitting about its collective head) will not get horribly worse, and will not increasingly destabilize our societies into horrific civil unrest, even conquer a country or two (does anyone who has been reading — really reading — Jihad Watch (supplemented by other ghastly reports in other news venues) over the years doubt the horrifying probability that a country like France, perhaps, could fall to Muslim control in the next approximately 50 years?”

          Oh, please – that’s a blatant lie and you know it, I know it, regulars here know it, and you know that we know it as much as we know that you know it. The people you decry as “softies” have given much more feasible solutions that your seditious nonsense, and you’re just bitter that they get more traction than you. Common sense and pragmatic measures gathering more support than seditious nonsense? Imagine that…

          There’s a lot I could say about your “total deportation” nonsense, but I’ll be brief and focus on two key points

          1 – You’re assuming – no, not assuming, wholeheartedly, if implicitly, affirming with all the fibers of your being – that “deporting” muslims is akin to grabbing some six-packs and shovels, calling a few friends and spending an afternoon removing a stump or rock from your backyard. You dig out the rock/stump, take it from your backyard to someplace else, and it stays there. Good job, guys, that rock/stump won’t bother us again, backyard clear, beers for everyone! The thing is, “deporting” muslims doesn’t prevent more from coming in or Americans from converting, whether while traveling abroad or on-line, so you’d have to call our friends and remove another stump/rock on a daily basis – no time to pat yourselves on the back and grab a beer after a hard afternoon’s work because you need to spend the evening, and the night, and the morning of the next day, and every single day from then on scouring your backyard with X-ray and sonar machines to see if there are any new rock/stump underground.

          2 – You can’t tell who’s a muslim and who isn’t. I know this sounds like one of those “well, DUH!” things, but it’s a critical point you never addressed – how are you going to identify muslims from non-muslims? You may think of it as simply rounding up all the “brown people”, but what if the people being round up, brown or not, say “I’m not a muslim”? And if you can’t prove that they’re a muslim? Are you going to “deport” them? Well, you certainly can’t not deport them, because threat, waging war, increasingly horrific ways to kill us, etc. – no, you’ve got to be “tough”. You go from “deporting” muslims to “deporting” those-who-might-not-be-muslims-but-that-means-there’s-a-chance-they-might-be-muslims-and-it’s-a-zero-tolerance-policy.

          Since you can’t tell who’s a muslim and who isn’t, cue in the police state. Did you, or did you not, voegelinian, say that the police, rather than trying to distinguish between “harmless” and “dangerous” muslims should just assume they’re all “dangerous” and use their time and effort to investigate who’s a muslim and who isn’t?

          Since I know you consider this kind of questions as me “pestering” you, I’ll just leave this here:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/dutch-air-force-sergeant-joins-islamic-state-in-first-such-desertion/comment-page-1#comment-1289853

          What’s to vet? The mere fact of being a Muslim should disqualify a person from being in the military or police. (From baby step that currently would constitute a Giant Leap for Mankind we can move to: mere fact of being a Muslim should disqualify a person from a) being in any job that could provide a potential terrorist with opportunity to plot mass-murder (i.e., all jobs); then b) being in the West at all.

          Our time, energy & expense will then shift from the untenable process of “vetting” Muslims (predicated upon the faulty idea that we can adequately distinguish the harmless Muslims from the dangerous Muslims) entirely to the forensic/investigative determination of Who Is a Muslim.

          Now imagine that on a 24/7/365 basis (366 on leap years) – keeping tabs on ALL citizens ALL the time, plus extra detail for when they travel abroad. Can’t have them coming back if they visit a mosque in Turkey or Morocco, can we? Heck, even visiting a muslim-majority country should be more than enough reason to “deport” native American citizens. Going to Egypt to see the pyramids? Pfffttt, you’re not fooling anyone, you muslim-lover. You think the tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorists are bad now, just wait until they have to choose between living Orwell’s 1984 and being parachuted over Sudan. You’d have an insurrection on your hands. And, if your actions here tell us anything, you’d just consider those people who don’t want to live under Sauron’s gaze 24/7 to be “pro-muslims”. And what do you do with “pro-muslims”? The same you do to muslims – “deport” them.

          Of course, I can be wrong on those regards. You may have a sound way to tell muslims from non-muslims that doesn’t involve anything remotely close to a police state. More, you may actually know how to frame your “total deportation” nonsense so that it complies with national and international law. Go ahead – prove me wrong. Explain to me – well, to anyone reading – the legal basis for your “total deportation” meme. Feel free to quote laws, both national and international, and precedents. Betcha you can’t.

        • voegelinian says

          Oct 24, 2015 at 2:42 am

          You’re stating that I zoom in on your posts, even though I’ve denied that and explained why it’s false (hint: most of my posts on JW are not replies to you).

          That’s just how much time you apparently spend on Jihad Watch: thus, you post innumerable posts totally unrelated to me — and in addition you zoom in hundreds of times to pester me about my tougher stance against Muslims.

        • Angemon says

          Oct 24, 2015 at 6:13 am

          voegelinian posted:

          “That’s just how much time you apparently spend on Jihad Watch:”

          Again, voeg: subscription. Email. Reply button.

          And are you really going to argue that spending whatever amount of time on JW is a bad thing? In any case, this just goes to prove what I’ve been saying about you being obsessed with me – now you’re even nitpicking about the amount of time I spend on JW. You can’t rebut my arguments so you act like a petty troll and try to resort to immature ad hominems. Is that what you call being “tough”?

          And make no mistake, you ARE obsessed with me. That’s why you emailed people and tried to bully them into shouting me down. That’s why you went on PalTalk and “enlisted” at least one person there to come here and do that.

          “thus, you post innumerable posts totally unrelated to me”

          Well, duh! That blows your red-herring out of the water. If I was “zooming in” on your posts I’d have little, if any, posts not related to you. But you’re not one to let facts interfere with your narrative so you’ll just press on and insist I single you out anyway, facts be damned!

          “and in addition you zoom in hundreds of times to pester me about my tougher stance against Muslims.”

          Again with that nonsense? You just backed up what I said about not “zooming in” on your posts. If you consider any attempt of discussing your ideas as “pestering you” then you’re not really interested in discussing ideas, you’re interested in having a special status that shields you from criticism, a goal shared by muslims. And since you can’t get that, you resort to the next best thing: deride, defame, slander and insult those who do try to discuss your ideas to see if they stand on their merits. Again, like muslims do.

          As for your alleged “tougher stance”, I say “death to traitors”, you say “let them go live a long happy life in whatever muslim-majority country they want”. Who’s got a tougher stance? Clearly not you. What grinds your gears is that I believe in the rule of law and due process, and I say that, considering the penalty, guilty must be proven. You don’t want that. You’re against that. What you want is mob justice (something that’s very prevalent in muslim countries, BTW), and you try to disguise it by claiming that you’re being “tough”.

          Anyway, good to see you took my dismantling of your seditious “total deportation” nonsense so well that you refused to answer my challenge and instead focused (or should I say, you “zoomed in”) on my rebuttal of your latest turd. You clearly don’t have a feasible way to tell muslims from non-muslims nor can you frame your “meme” in a way that complies with national and international law. You want to push an idea that you have no clue about how to implement, and you want to shame people who question you on it, hence the immature ad hominem about the time I spend here. So very “tough”, voeg, so very “tough”…

    • quotha raven says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 1:47 pm

      to Mahmoud, who sez “…And in this case, a sensitive 14 year-old boy, who has done nothing wrong.”

      Jump back, Loretta!

      Cheers!

      quotha r

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 10:52 pm

      Witless victim mongering.

  52. sally says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 7:55 am

    They’ll probably try to get some common core mileage out of Ahmed later if they can make sure the old man stays safely away

  53. Jay Boo says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 8:59 am

    Qatar to Yemen to Pakistan where he can learn bomb-making 101 .
    Then he will blame the West if caught for motivating him to jihad ((which was actually his intent all along to begin with) because he is Muslim.

    • somehistory says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 2:22 pm

      The five notorious ones from Gitmo went to Q and were to stay there for a year. If they are still around as they are supposed to be…haha…the bomb-maker expert should be able to show his entire family how-to in short order without the trips.

  54. Ron says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:09 am

    Something tells me that we’ll be hearing more about this little fraud and his family. Looks to be a future Jihadi. State dept needs to revoke their citizenship (if they have it) and bar them from ever coming back into this country.

  55. Luciano says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:23 am

    Does this mean that they will renounce their American citizenship??? And…..become citizens of the great country of Qatar……

  56. Myxlplik says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 9:28 am

    I’m waiting for Ahmed to appear as the first Muslim on the periodic table, maybe they can rename Copernicum, “Ahmedium” so we can have our first Muslim non-European on the table. I’m sure the QF can buy that.

    • Myxlplik says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 9:40 am

      I’m thinking he could put some Copernicum in a “pencil box” then rig some wires to a metal “briefcase” and randomly tour Washington DC monuments until he gets arrested for having a “dirty bomb”. Then in the swirl of apologetics, bowing, scraping he can rename the element due to his “ingenious” repackaging.

      Perfect, because the periodic table is racist and Islamophobic.

      • Myxlplik says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 10:19 am

        Rant section;

        It’s actually perfect because the Kaffer Periodic Table gotten through work and actual brilliance could be made Halal through terror and deception…

        His new monacher would be Ahmed the Muslim Physicist

        • Katnis says

          Oct 21, 2015 at 10:48 am

          Hahahaha!

        • Jay Boo says

          Oct 21, 2015 at 1:01 pm

          Beware, he will return as Ahmed the dead terrorist.

        • spot on says

          Oct 22, 2015 at 1:37 pm

          His elementary education in Muslim bomb making was completed here where he learned all about how to take apart and prepare an electronic clock concealed it in a suitcase.

          Now he has earned a scholarship at Middle Eastern Muslim schools where he will learn specialized Muslims bomb making and how to connect the clock to the detonator and choose the size and shrapnel configuration of a bomb.

    • f c king says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 10:47 am

      Perfect. Reverseengineerium islamicus.

      • steve says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 1:32 pm

        Yes, and add to that “inbredicus familicus”.

    • Christianblood says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 1:03 pm

      What is the big deal here if he moved to Qatar?
      Is Qatar not an American ally just as ISIS, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey, Bahrain and many other Islamic jihadist groups/countries are?

      • Dr. Divinity says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 6:14 pm

        He met obama and he and his family are leaving the U.S.

        Maybe all Muslims need to meet him

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 10:32 pm

        More from “Christianblood” implying that there is no problem with Islam–but just with the United States. Try again…

        • Christianblood says

          Oct 22, 2015 at 12:04 pm

          Gravenimage

          Do you know deny that Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey, Bahrain and many other Islamic jihadist groups/countries, including many barbaric jihadists that are fighting Assad are allied with America and that America backs them and arms them?

        • voegelinian says

          Oct 23, 2015 at 5:25 pm

          Do you know deny that Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey, Bahrain and many other Islamic jihadist groups/countries, including many barbaric jihadists that are fighting Assad are allied with America and that America backs them and arms them?

          Not only allied with America but also with much of the rest of the West. We know that; and we know it’s disastrously stupid. The only excuse for making alliances with one or more tinpot sultan of the Dar-al-Islam is to use them against other Muslims, in order to try to weaken the Camp of Islam. The West, pleasantly benighted by Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism, is not currently capable of such sagacious Realpolitik (or, rather, as I think I coined, Realislamik); and so we canaries in the coalmines of the West, We few, we happy few, we band of brothers (and sisters), must — as we continue to try to wake up our pleasantly sleepwalking Western family, friends, acquaintences, neighbors, and fellow citizens — continue to suffer the egregious dereliction of duty of our representatives in government, news journalism, academe, and pop culture. Many who hover near the Counter-Jihad to take a curious look bring many assumptions with them — such as that its members must all be white redneck Christian bigots, or that we all loved George Bush. On the contrary, its members reflect a wide sociocultural diversity on nearly every metric one could use; and as for Bush, most of us realize that his starry-eyed Wilsonian dream of helping Muslims of Iraq & Afghanistan “democratize” is a catastrophic pipe dream based on an appalling ignorance of Islamic culture, history, and psychology, which has cost us thousands of lives, limbs, and genitalia (blown off by IEDs — see: http://tiny.cc/27b34x ) not to mention billions of dollars sucked down those black holes of idiocy.

  57. Milt w says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 10:19 am

    Good Bye – Good Riddance and bad luck to you and your whole fraudulent family. Enjoy your new life.

    May your next bomb explode prematurely.

    • voytech says

      Oct 22, 2015 at 10:34 am

      I would love 2 see more of his friends follow him

      • Oliver says

        Oct 22, 2015 at 6:59 pm

        ONLY 2?

        Why not 10,000 or more.?

  58. el cid says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 10:46 am

    This is an example of Obama’s leadership.

    Old clock in a pencil case relabeled as a precocious science project because the ‘inventor’ is a Muslim, and therefore above the need for actual evaluation based on merit.

    School authority and the police are vilified because the Muslim does not bow to any authority other than Islam.

    The left applauds because the concept of a meritocracy is replaced with compliance to a particular ideology. If you comply, then you can have power. If you don’t comply, you are nothing.

  59. underbed cat says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 11:59 am

    Yeah what is up fb, google and the tech industry did you fall for this day of setting up concerned people about terrorism too. So you think concerned people who contacted authoriites had no protective concern for the students in their care? Are you serious? Just think, if you saw a pressure cooker inside a backpack would you say something? Oh maybe not.

    Read the book, see what is in there. learn about abborgation, permissible lying then celebrate? Why support the most intolerant ideology in history.

  60. Sam says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    Obama and his ilk are disgusting piece of garbage in any category. Hope history will honestly tell the truth about this garbage Obama and his supporters.

    I don’t understand why we Americans have to accept this conniving and disgusting behavior from our administration.

    • stevethe off. says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 1:30 pm

      It’s because the Congress themselves are part of the cartel that’s keeping him in power. hopefully this will change with the next election since there’s been so much exposure on the extent of the corruption. The answer at least in part is certainly not to vote for any more progressive socialists.

    • خَليفة says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 1:36 pm

      For the Americas I think it is more about rejecting Christian values,e.g. NOT having anyone tell them they are a sinner, and liking the idea of creating their own personal religion. People like that are ready to believe anyone, like taqiya spewing Muslims, who criticizes Christian values, people like that are also very ignorant, believing everyone who criticizes Christianity is just like them (Western protectionism).

      #NukeMecca

      • Christianblood says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 4:34 pm

        @ خَليفة

        I wonder why you have the evil word (خَليفة) or (khalifah) as your name?

        • awake says

          Oct 22, 2015 at 8:50 am

          Oh, go pound sand already!

  61. Rocky Lore says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    He should have moved to Sudan.

    • simpleton says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 4:26 pm

      Read more: http://sputniknews.com/us/20151017/1028657274/ahmed-mohamed-visits-sudan-bashir.html#ixzz3p91NVT3c

      Great photo of Ahmed who puts an arm around the great leader Bashir of Sudan, when he did visit the Sudan with his father who also seems so friendly. Ahmed infers he will bring great technology and innovation to the Sudan.

  62. Andrew H. says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    Well, in reality, he is a victim as is his family, as are over one billion Muslims. They are the principal victims of Islam, the most repressive, vindictive, hate-filled religion ever invented. But Ahmed and his family are setting an excellent example for the rest of the Muslims in America. They are moving to Qatar, as nasty a Muslim country as one could find. We should take up a fund to provide travel tickets to Muslims in America who want to permanently settle in a Muslim state, and that would include Obama. I’d even pay him a first class ticket to get him out of America.

  63. Cuckoo clock says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    Mohamed arrives in Qatar for new cuckoo clock competition

  64. Dave J says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    Waiting for the next Muslim genius to bring a pressure cooker to school, look its just a chicken inside, behold the budding master chef you bigoted Islamophobes.

    This whole episode is a perfect example of both Islamic provocation and the West’s myopic wishful thinking about PC multicultural triumphalism.

    • steve says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 1:26 pm

      Imagine if the world had been cowed away by cries of naziphobia we’d all be dancing the polka today!

      • Tom W Harris says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 2:55 pm

        Well no, the polka is a Polish dance. Instead we’d be dancing the schottische.

  65. PRCS says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    A relevant cartoon:
    http://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2015/10/Clock-Missile-copy.jpg

    Another Hitler rant parody (this one about clockboy)
    http://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2015/10/Clock-Missile-copy.jpg

    • PRCS says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      Ooops:

      This link:

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 3:21 pm

        Haa. That’s the second Hitler rant video I’ve seen. Anybody know where the original is, that was maybe the funniest I’ve ever seen in my life. They have great production and acting, A-level production values.

        • PRCS says

          Oct 21, 2015 at 4:09 pm

          Original:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7PmzdINGZk

          More at this You Tube page:
          https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hitler+rant

  66. steve says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    How do you say milking the goat in Arabic?

  67. Dave J says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    No doubt he will be forever telling tales of his oppression in America by all the nasty Islamophobes, to the point that he had to leave the country as a sort of intellectual refuge.

    Next will be his revenge against the trauma that was inflicted on him. Muslims take their victimhood very seriously and never forget a grudge – just look at how well they get along with each other.

  68. CelticChristianPride says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    wow of course hell go to muslim nation when he gets buckoo bucks from all the nations elite but he wouldnt dare go back there without his payday his family knows damn well being poor in a muslim country is like the fucking dark ages but worse because youre most likely in a very arid climate

  69. stinkfoot says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    He is a fool to give up Texas for Qatar and I’m afraid he will soon experience a much more insidious form of racism than anything he experienced here. I almost feel sorry for him but hey, you don’t know what you’ve got ’til it’s gone. That said, we should close and lock the door after him.

    • voytech says

      Oct 22, 2015 at 10:39 am

      Let’s pray that he has to leave his passport behind !

  70. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    So the genius Clock Boy has gone Ahoy, no doubt to receive payments for his good deed from the terror sponsors who run Qatar. To me the key question now is whether his dad Mohamed Mohamed will be able to get paid some booty by the taxpayers of Irving TX. I sure hope he files, can’t wait to see for how much. When the little genius gets out of high school in Qatar, he’ll have the choice of either attending MIT or skipping college and going directly into Google to reshape the world. I’m not sure how stuffing an already manufactured digital clock into a package figures in Google’s long term plans, but it must.

    • Jeremiah says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      Ahmed has been offered acting classes. The last dead body moved when CNN was filming it next to a UN school and they had to shoot him.

    • Oliver says

      Oct 22, 2015 at 7:18 pm

      i would hope that the entire family joins ISISI and gets killed -and i couldn’t care by whom. (And a fewthousand more-per day-meet the same fate). make the world a better place

  71. b.C.terry says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    Hope the door didn’t hit them in the azz on the way out.

    Having said that, hope it sets an example for others to follow in their footsteps.

  72. eduardo odraude says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    Here’s the place where Ahmed’s family prefers to live, Qatar, as described by the international human rights organization, Freedom House. The human rights situation is not as horrific as some places in the Middle East, but still very bad.

    https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2015/qatar

    Overview:

    Throughout 2014, Emir Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani pursued an assertive foreign policy in the Middle East, providing financial support to Islamist groups in the Palestinian territories, Syria, Egypt, and other countries. However, as the year progressed, diplomatic pressure from other Arab states of the Persian Gulf led Qatar to decrease its support for such foreign groups.

    Large numbers of migrant workers continue to be subjected to slave-like conditions, despite increased attention from the media and human rights groups in the run-up to the 2022 World Cup, which will be held in Doha.

    Political Rights and Civil Liberties:

    The head of state is the emir, whose family holds a monopoly on political power. The emir appoints the prime minister and cabinet, and also selects an heir-apparent after consulting with the ruling family and other notables. In 2013, Hamad abdicated, handing over power to his fourth-born son, 33-year old Tamim bin Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani. Sheikh Abdullah bin Nasser bin Khalifa al-Thani, the former head of state security, became prime minister as well as interior minister.

    The constitution stipulates that 30 of the 45 seats of the parliament, the Advisory Council (Majlis Al-Shura), be filled through elections every four years; the emir appoints the other 15 members. However, elections for the Advisory Council have yet to take place, so all members are currently appointed. Elections scheduled to take place in 2013 were postponed due to the transfer of power to Tamim. The Advisory Council does not currently have the power to propose legislation, only to propose changes.

    The country held its first elections in 1999 for a 29-member Central Municipal Council, a body designed to advise the minister on municipal affairs and agriculture. Its members serve four-year terms. In the most recent Municipal Council elections, held in 2011, 4 of the 101 candidates were women; only one, who was running for reelection, won a seat. Voter turnout was 43 percent, with just 13,606 registered voters participating. The next municipal elections are scheduled for May 2015.

    In a 2003 referendum, Qataris overwhelmingly approved the country’s first constitution, which came into force in 2005. The new constitution slightly broadened the scope of political participation without eliminating the ruling family’s monopoly on power. All Qatari citizens over the age of 18 are eligible to vote. However, approximately 80 percent of the country’s population is composed of foreign workers, who are not eligible to vote.

    B. Political Pluralism and Participation:

    The government does not permit the existence of political parties. The system is dominated by the ruling family.

    C. Functioning of Government:

    Critics continue to complain of a lack of transparency in government procurement, which favors personal connections. Official information is very tightly controlled and not transparent. However, Qatar was ranked 26 out of 175 countries surveyed in Transparency International’s 2014 Corruption Perceptions Index. In 2014, Qatar faced allegations of corrupt practices in securing the winning bid to host the 2022 World Cup. Criticism of the country’s labor practices in constructing the infrastructure needed to support the tournament has also grown.

    Discretionary Political Rights

    Citizens can petition elected local government representatives with limited powers over municipal services; these representatives report to the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Urban Planning.

    Civil Liberties:

    D. Freedom of Expression and Belief:

    Although the constitution guarantees freedom of expression, both print and broadcast media are influenced by leading families. The top five daily newspapers are privately owned, but their owners and boards include members of the ruling family. In 1996, Hamad permitted the creation of Al Jazeera, which has achieved a global reach. Although it is privately held, the government has reportedly paid for the channel’s operating costs since its inception. As a result, Al Jazeera generally does not cover Qatari politics. All journalists in Qatar practice a high degree of self-censorship and face possible jail sentences for slander.

    A draft media law approved by the Advisory Council in 2012, proposing wider protections for journalists and their sources but also fines for offenses like criticizing the regime or neighboring governments, remained under consideration in 2014. In September 2014, Qatar’s government passed a cybercrimes law with greater restrictions on content posted on social media and news websites. The law prohibits any content spreading “false news” or undermining “general order,” subjecting the author to up to three years in prison. Furthermore, the law also prohibits the spread of content that violates “social values” by publishing news, pictures, audio, or video of individuals’ “personal or family life;” the author can face up to one year in prison and a fine even if the content is true. The emir had not yet approved the law at year’s end. The government censors online content and blocks access to websites that are deemed pornographic or politically sensitive.

    Islam is Qatar’s official religion, though the constitution explicitly provides for freedom of worship. The Ministry of Islamic Affairs regulates clerical matters and the construction of mosques. Several churches have been built for Qatar’s growing Christian community. The constitution guarantees freedom of opinion and academic research, but scholars often self-censor on politically sensitive topics. Several foreign universities have established branches in Qatar under a program to strengthen Qatar’s educational institutions.

    E. Associational and Organizational Rights: 2 / 12

    While the constitution grants freedoms of assembly and association, these rights are limited in practice. Protests are rare, with the government restricting the public’s ability to organize demonstrations. In November 2014, a group of migrant construction workers assembled to protest low pay and was reportedly confronted by police, who arrested a number of the workers. All nongovernmental organizations need state permission to operate, and the government closely monitors their activities. There are no independent human rights organizations, but a government-appointed National Human Rights Committee, which includes members of civil society and government ministries, investigates alleged abuses.

    A 2005 labor law expanded some worker protections, but the rights to form unions and to strike remain restricted. The only trade union allowed to operate is the General Union of Workers of Qatar, which prohibits the membership of noncitizens and government-sector employees.

    F. Rule of Law:

    Despite constitutional guarantees, the judiciary is not independent in practice. The majority of Qatar’s judges are foreign nationals who are appointed and removed by the emir. The judicial system consists of Sharia (Islamic law) courts, which have jurisdiction over a narrow range of issues including family law, and civil law courts, which have jurisdiction over criminal, commercial, and civil cases. Although the constitution protects individuals from arbitrary arrest and detention and bans torture, a 2002 law allows the suspension of these guarantees for the “protection of society.” The law empowers the minister of the interior to detain a defendant for crimes related to national security on the recommendation of the director-general of public security.

    The two-year criminal case against Grace and Matthew Huang concluded in November 2014, when both were acquitted of child endangerment stemming from the death of their eight-year-old daughter, whom they had adopted from Ghana prior to moving to Qatar. The Huangs were originally arrested on suspicion of murder and human trafficking, with the prosecutor calling into question their motives in adopting a child of a different race.

    The Penal Code punishes same-sex sexual activity with imprisonment, and Sharia law, which applies only to Muslims, prohibits any sexual acts outside of marriage. Same-sex relationships must be hidden in public.

    G. Personal Autonomy and Individual Rights: 4 / 16

    Qataris face no apparent restrictions on freedom of movement within Qatar or on type or place of employment. Such freedoms, however, are not extended to noncitizens and foreign workers. Qataris are also permitted to own property and start private businesses, although the process of obtaining necessary commercial permits can be cumbersome.

    The constitution treats women as full and equal persons, and gender-based discrimination is banned. Emir Tamim appointed a female minister for communication and information technology in 2013; she is the third-ever female minister in Qatar. In 2006, Qatar implemented a codified family law to regulate issues such as inheritance, child custody, marriage, and divorce. While this law expands protections for women, they continue to face disadvantages, including societal discrimination, and have few effective legal mechanisms to contest incidents of bias.

    Domestic violence is not criminalized and is prevalent. The Qatar Foundation for Child and Woman Protection (QFCWP) has noted a significant increase in cases of violence since 2004. The 2011–2016 National Development Strategy includes measures to better protect victims of abuse, including laws against domestic violence, increased legal protections for victims, and robust social support services. In 2013, the government reorganized multiple social services organizations, including the QFPWC, putting them under the purview of the Qatar Foundation for Social Work. The QFPWC operates a shelter for abused women and children and, in cooperation with the public prosecutor’s office, facilitates the legal response to cases of abuse. However, it is unclear how many domestic abuse charges were filed in 2014. Qatar is a destination for the trafficking of men and women, particularly for forced labor and prostitution.

    While the constitution prohibits discrimination based on nationality, the government discriminates against noncitizens in the areas of education, housing, healthcare, and other services that are offered free of charge to citizens. Foreign nationals comprise more than 80 percent of the country’s population and over 90 percent of the workforce, and most rights do not apply to noncitizen residents. Under Qatar’s kafala system, many foreign workers face economic abuses, including the withholding of salaries or contract manipulation, while others endure poor living conditions and excessive work hours. However, fear of job loss and deportation often prevents them from exercising their limited rights. Female domestic workers are particularly vulnerable to abuse and exploitation. Migrants working to build the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup continue to work in terrible conditions. There have been reports of workers not receiving wages for more than a year and being stranded in Qatar after the collapse of their contracting company. The government announced in May 2014 that the labor system would be reformed, but no substantial details were provided by year’s end.

  73. Oliver says

    Oct 21, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    Any chance (I hope, hope, hope) that he will take, besides his family, perhaps a few hundred thousand (or more) of his fellow Muslims with him?

    How about they charter 150 or so planes, and load them all up with Muslims, especially *(because this is where I live) from Florida, at least to start.

    (And if a few crash in the ocean, oh well, more business for Boeing; Lockheed; Air Bus, etc.

    • Jeremiah says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 7:20 pm

      We will have to show how it is done.

      • Oliver says

        Oct 22, 2015 at 7:20 pm

        They could take the methods of crashing from the simultors of the pilot of the Malaysian Airplane that left for China AND MAYBE was dicovered in the Phiippines.

  74. Nutjob says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 11:12 am

    RIGHT, that’s it! I’m gonna get my school aged son to build a suspicious, although completely harmless bomb looking device, bring it into show and tell, and hopefully get arrested, then hope I can play the victim card to the maximum limit, involve all the mainstream press, that way I can get gifts and invitations to parties and meet with the head of state, day trips to important places and free rides everywhere, and last but not least a one way ticket to Disneyland.
    Only problem is I’m not a Muslim and neither is any member of my family, and neither is my head of state. Damn, damn, damn, damn. If only I could convert and then convert back again without getting sentenced to death.
    Life’s too good for some.

  75. Eddiethed says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    That’s great leave this country,the U.S is better off every time a Sandratt leaves the country,now take a couple million Sandratts with you Cock Boy!!

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