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Coptic blasphemy case sheds light on Muslim views of Islamic State

Oct 29, 2015 8:52 am By Raymond Ibrahim

Islamic State southern SyriaOn October 22, a court postponed to December 3 the case concerning four Coptic Christian students accused of blasphemy. They did this after the Copts’ lawyer, Maher Naguib, convinced the court to bring the exhibits of the case, including the video made by the Copts which is responsible for the blasphemy charge.

The four Coptic students were arrested last April on the charge of “contempt of religions.” They had made a 30-second video on an iphone poking fun at the Islamic State, or “ISIS.”

In the video, the boys appear laughing and joking, as they pretend to be members of the Islamic State praying to Allah. One of the boys pretends to slit the throat of another, an ISIS trademark.

Along with facing up to seven years prison, one of the youth was “banished” from his village of Al-Nasriya by fellow Christians in an effort to appease local Muslims who reacted to the video with violence, including by pelting the homes and businesses of Christians with stones.

According to the brother of the banished Copt:

I don’t see any insulting of Islam in the video. They were joking and making fun of Daesh (the Arabic acronym for IS), not Islam. My brother didn’t intend to insult the Islamic religion. He is a respected man and all people love and respect him. He is very polite and deals with all people in a good way, he has a good relationship with the other teachers and his students in the school, and he is characterised by his good manners.

One Coptic shop owner told of the wild reaction of Muslims after they found out about the video:

There were three or four marches in different places in the village, as our village is a very big village.  They were chanting slogans against Christians and Christianity. They were chanting: “With our souls and blood, we will defend you, oh Islam! We will not leave you; we will take revenge for you!”

They were pelting Christian homes with stones, pounding threateningly on doors and windows, attacking shops owned by Coptic Christians. They destroyed the door of my shop and they destroyed a photo studio owned by the father of one of the boys.

For three days we were living in terror and panic. We stayed in our homes and our children didn’t go to their schools. We also couldn’t go to church to attend the masses for [Coptic] Holy Week.

Another local Copt described how his home was attacked:

On Thursday evening (9 April), the Muslim demonstrators attacked our home. They pelted it with stones and insulted us. They were shouting, “Oh kafirs (infidels), we can’t let you live here. We will oust you from our village.” They also stole the windows from our home….  We were unable to go to the church during these events. Also, we didn’t go to the church on Saturday to attend the Easter mass. Until now, we have been staying at our homes and are afraid that the attacks against us will be renewed.

Muslims, especially those of Egypt, are in the habit of distancing Islam from ISIS. If the Coptic youth are convicted of blasphemy, it will be clear that, at least in the eyes of Egypt’s formal legal system, mocking ISIS is one with mocking Islam.

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Filed Under: blasphemy, Coptic Christians, Egypt Tagged With: Maher Naguib


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  1. john spielman says

    Oct 29, 2015 at 9:40 am

    who will rescue these persecuted people from the hands of the muslim barbarian?

    • spot on says

      Oct 29, 2015 at 10:23 am

      Coptic Christians were once the vast majority in Egypt. (cir. 400 AD). There were Coptic Christian churches throughout Egypt. After the seventh century when Mohammad’s Islamic killers came to Egypt, Christians were killed off down to a level of 10%. Now they again are being slaughtered by Muslims and numbers are surely further reduced today as Muslims continue to kill off Coptic Christians and secularists.

      Europe and the USA please take note!!! This is the future of the West if they are allowed to invade our lands. Western Marxists have allied with Muslims. European Marxists today are inviting Muslims to invade their countries and do the same as Muslims have done to Secularists and Christians in Egypt. Marxists hate Christians so much that they are willing to live with and live as Muslims if necessary to accomplish that goal.

      • MTMLA says

        Oct 31, 2015 at 12:46 am

        The muslims have already invaded our lands, thanks to corrupt politicians snd uninformed masses who excuse them..

      • mahghan says

        Oct 31, 2015 at 4:51 am

        Not Marxists at all. But dissolute “bourgeois liberals”. Marx wrote that “religion is the opiate of the people” so how can a genuine Marxist side with Muslims from what Marx called “oriental despotisms”?

    • voegelinian says

      Oct 29, 2015 at 12:06 pm

      Apparently not that Great Brown Hope for Islamic “Reform”, President al-Sisi of Egypt. Raymond Ibrahim’s reports over the last two years showing that al-Sisi is letting Islam be Islam in Egypt despite his promises of “reform” and “dialogue” number in the dozens by now (perhaps even the dozens and dozens). They could constitute an adjunct blog here called “Al-Sisi Watch”.

      • Jay Boo says

        Oct 31, 2015 at 2:00 am

        No voegelinian
        What is needed is a BBC watch.
        They just slammed al-Sisi tonight while painting the MO-Bro as victims.
        They droned on about the “Revolution” that bought Morsi to power then suggested it was the military that exclusively took him out,
        BBC erased the popular uprising against Morsi as if it did not exist.
        We need to erase BBC as if it does not exist.

  2. Angemon says

    Oct 29, 2015 at 9:42 am

    If the Coptic youth are convicted of blasphemy, it will be clear that, at least in the eyes of Egypt’s formal legal system, mocking ISIS is one with mocking Islam.

    France’s way ahead of Egypt on that regard…

    • Bamaguje says

      Oct 29, 2015 at 3:55 pm

      But Obama reassured us “ISIS has nothing to do with Islam.”

  3. mortimer says

    Oct 29, 2015 at 10:05 am

    “poking fun at the Islamic State” is considered ‘blasphemy’?

    This is an admission by the learned judges of Egypt that ISIS is fundamentally Islamic.

  4. Joseph says

    Oct 29, 2015 at 10:17 am

    Each and every day I detest Islam more and more. Just when I think that my level of disgust can’t get any greater the Muslims find another way for me to dislike them even more.
    When the sh@t hits the fan and people start retaliating the MSM is going to come out full force in support of these sadists.
    Like Graven I hate Islam too and I would like to see the day of it’s own destruction.
    Islam is like rust on your car, the longer you ignore it the harder it is to get rid of and the costlier it becomes to restore the vehicle.

    • old white guy says

      Oct 29, 2015 at 10:35 am

      islam will only be destroyed by a complete and total war against all the followers of islam.

      • spot on says

        Oct 29, 2015 at 11:46 am

        Total war and total defeat of these “creatures from the blue lagoon” is what is really necessary but our problem is that the Muslims are spending big money in Washington and elsewhere to convince us not to declare total war against them.

        • spot on says

          Oct 29, 2015 at 11:50 am

          I might also add that then have overdone themselves with Obama on the Iran nuke deal. He gave Iran the keys to the store and now wants to bring more of them here to invade us by the plane loads.

        • Joseph says

          Oct 29, 2015 at 12:40 pm

          spot on says
          He gave Iran the keys to the store and now wants to bring more of them here to invade us by the plane loads.
          ______________________
          They have the keys to the store but we can still change the locks. Like the rust, once they have the keys the job just got harder. Now we have to change all the locks and bar the windows because they like what we have inside the store.

          @ Evolution, spelling these words with a capital does not bother me as much a using a capital “S” in satan. Going to have to change my auto spell checker. Just lazy i guess, like disconnecting the seat belt alarm in the car.

    • Evolution says

      Oct 29, 2015 at 11:06 am

      Play the catch-up game Joseph.
      I haven’t spelt “islam” or “muslim” with a capital letter in years.

      I don’t consider it a religion, and I don’t consider them people.
      They are just words to describe the state an animal is in, not names.

      • PRODOS says

        Oct 30, 2015 at 10:24 am

        Evolution says, regarding Muslims:

        “… I don’t consider them people.”

        And that he considers the term Muslim merely

        “… to describe the state an animal is in …”

        One of the key differences between a human and an animal is that humans have Free Will and are therefore held morally (as well as socially and legally) accountable for their choices.

        An animal can not be a Christian or an Atheist or an Objectivist or a Nazi or a Muslim.
        An animal can not become an Apostate or change its religion or philosophy.
        An animal does not and can not choose between good and evil. It doesn’t possess a moral capacity.

        By treating Muslims as animals, instead of as people, Evolution is declaring Islam a non-moral issue and Muslims who follow Islam’s destructive path as innocent.

        In the process of doing this he also places himself outside of morality … and not unlike an animal.

        Finally, he makes himself the enemy of moral people.

        How is that approach better than an an evil human ideology such as Islam?

        To defeat an evil moral code we need a good moral code — not the abandonment of morality itself.

  5. mortimer says

    Oct 29, 2015 at 10:20 am

    Vigilantism is normative Islam. Plundering is normative Islam. Any excuse is a valid excuse. Resistance to Islam is counterjihad that must be punished. Verbal resistance to Islam is considered worse than actual, physical fighting. Verbally resisting Islam requires a death sentence.

    So much for human rights or civil liberties in any country where there are Muslims. They consider themselves above the law of the land and therefor, they are VIGILANTES OF ALLAH.

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 29, 2015 at 11:10 am

      The EXCUSE

      Islam is not Muhammad’s religion.
      Islam is his excuse.

      • Christopher H says

        Oct 29, 2015 at 11:33 am

        Nailed it, Jay Boo!

      • Joseph says

        Oct 29, 2015 at 12:46 pm

        Jay Boo, it is also easier to win a game if you make up the rules as you play. Mo(MMLBPDHT may molten lead be poured down his throat) most certainly changed the rules to suit his own sick desires. He was justified in his own mind.

        • Peggy says

          Oct 29, 2015 at 11:56 pm

          That evil bastard had a severe mental problem as well and has passed it onto all future muslims. If only we could go back in time and kill that SOB.

  6. Mike says

    Oct 29, 2015 at 10:25 am

    It is so sad that Egypt is turning into another Pakistan.

  7. Jay Boo says

    Oct 29, 2015 at 10:49 am

    John Kerry called ISIS by the name (Daesh) — broadcasted last night on NPR/BBC.

    Below, where the ancient Egyptian crocodile lays its eggs John Kerry plants his seeds in hopes the Nile river will conform to his wishes instead.

  8. Stefan says

    Oct 29, 2015 at 11:10 am

    It is becoming clearer and clearer, that you cannot separate “mainstream” Islam from Radical Islam. They are conjoined at the hip, thats why you rarely ever see muslims denouncing radical muslims. Radical muslims want to kill you, Moderate muslims want the radicals to do it for them.

    • Joseph says

      Oct 29, 2015 at 12:48 pm

      “mainstream” Islam IS radical Islam. They are one in the same.

    • Raja says

      Oct 29, 2015 at 7:22 pm

      Stefan,

      Wise words… Your words sums up Islam in practice….Thanks..

    • voegelinian says

      Oct 30, 2015 at 2:28 pm

      “Radical muslims want to kill you, Moderate muslims want the radicals to do it for them.”

      Not only that, but so-called moderate Muslims also provide cover for the so-called radical Muslims, by making Westerners think they can assimilate innumerable Muslims into our societies. Apparently, the Counter-Jihad Softies agree, for they have no plans on what to do with the millions of Muslims who are inside the West (other than to target obvious “extremists” who provide evidence of their extremism after the fact).

      • Angemon says

        Oct 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm

        voegelinian posted:

        “Apparently, the Counter-Jihad Softies agree, for they have no plans on what to do with the millions of Muslims who are inside the West (other than to target obvious “extremists” who provide evidence of their extremism after the fact).”

        Do you have a plan? Or do you just like to rail against and lie about the “softies”? My money’s on the latter.

  9. bob millington says

    Oct 30, 2015 at 10:06 am

    God is love….Love ; is no machine.

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