“We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film.” Yet when Susan Rice said that the attack was “a spontaneous reaction to a video,” and other Obama officials said the same thing, she never corrected them. And she gave the same impression herself when she said, “Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted to the Internet,” although she tried to walk that back at yesterday’s hearings.
Remember also that right after the Benghazi jihad murders, Hillary said, “We’re going to have that filmmaker arrested,” and did so, on a trumped-up parole violation — while probably thousands of parolees have committed worse and never gotten hauled back in. The filmmaker became America’s first Sharia political prisoner, in prison for violating Islamic blasphemy law.
“Hillary Clinton Knew All Along Benghazi Attack Had “Nothing To Do With The Film,” Documents Reveal,” by Anthony L. Fisher, Reason, October 22, 2015 (thanks to Adrian):
According to documents revealed as part of the ongoing Congressional hearings on Benghazi, then-U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told then-Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Kandil in a phone call the day after the attack on the U.S. consulate, “We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack—not a protest.”
The film Clinton refers to is the 10 minute Youtube trailer for the ultra-low budget anti-Islam movie “Innocence of Muslims,” which she and other senior Obama administration officials, including President Obama himself, almost immediately began casting as a scapegoat for the attacks. Those attacks, however, were already understood by senior administration officials to be a planned and coordinated attack, and very much not what then-ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice called a “a spontaneous reaction to a video.”
Clinton also reportedly emailed her daughter Chelsea, who used the pseudonym Diane Reynolds when communicating with her mother via her private email account, on the night of the attacks, telling her that the consulate had been attacked by an “Al Queda-like group.” (sic)
That same night, in her first statement following the attacks on 9/11/12, Clinton wrote:
“Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted to the Internet.”
When challenged about that characterization at today’s hearings by Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), Clinton refused to admit that the administration blamed the video for the attacks, saying:
And if you look at what I said, I referred to the video that night in a very specific way. I said, some have sought to justify the attack because of the video.
I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks.
Not only did senior administration officials persist in framing the attack as a protest sparked by the video for days after, one of its first moves upon hearing that Ambassador Chris Stevens had been murdered was to contact Youtube and ask them “to review the video to see if it was in compliance with their terms of use.”
My colleague Matt Welch wrote up this helpful and infuriating roundup of the administration officials and distinguished members of the intelligentsia who advocated for everything from imprisonment for the filmmaker (who would be imprisoned for a parole violation committed when he uploaded the video) to calls for “free speech to yield to other values.”…

fidobite says
Wha…what?? Hillary Clinton lied?!?! I didn’t know she was even capable of that! Oh, wait, I’m sorry, it’s telling the truth that she’s incapable of. Nevermind.
mortimer says
The entire Obama administration has no respect for freedom of expression nor for facts. Hillarious has her foot in the trap. She will not get out by telling more lies. She can’t chew her leg off. This is delicious watching her squirm. She made her bed…with lies.
Lia Wissing says
The entire administration & its MB adherents have no use for the truth. And despite our most fervent hopes, I don’t think Mrs Clinton will be prosecuted and/or jailed. Her WH admin-buddies will not allow it.
ALPHAMEL says
Hillary once said that…”We wanted to NORMALIZE relations with Libya”…in response to why she purposely denied requests to send in Marines to Benghazi…second hearing. THAT explains it all.
Hillary is beyond being a consumate systemic liar…she is a PSYCHOTIC liar who believes her own lives.
She deserves to be jailed…and Obama impeached…over Benghazi alone.
Hillary…Butchering Bitch of Benghazi. PILLORY HILLARY 2016!
Michael Copeland says
Clearly free speech must “yield to other values” (Sharia).
How else can the Global Caliphate be imposed?
Neil Jennison says
Hilary Clinton is a liar! Now tell us something new. The woman has never had any connection with truth in her public life. She is an appalling woman. Worse than her husband…… and that isn’t easy.
BlueRaven says
What is shocking for me that she has enough followers to win the election. We have too many dum people sucking up to her. She knows her PR guys can take care of hick-ups like yesterday without much of a difficulty. We aint what we use to be.
miriamrove says
You are right. I am hoping for Ben Carson. I think he is the only one that can save us. m
BlueRaven says
He is another religeous nut but he is open to discussions. I don`t think he knows Islam as much as he should. He is wary of it.
Edward says
You say: “He is another religeous nut”
Explain in what way you think he is!
Mo says
@ BlueRaven
“He is another religeous nut but he is open to discussions.”
What kind of religious nut is that?
Isabellathecrusader says
He’s not a nut, but he does have faith. What an idiotic comment to make.
Don McKellar says
Being a religious nut is, ironically, both a liability and an asset in the upcoming election. As an atheist, I see him as the only viable candidate for the GOP. And it is ENTIRELY because of he is the ONLY ONE to talk honestly and truthfully about the most important issue of our time: Islam. He is a highly conflicted individual. An intelligent and educated individual who is one of the world’s leading brain surgeons. Which means he knows all about the research which shows that religion and spiritual feelings are entirely a function of the survival mechanism that evolution has left in our brains as an identifiable and study-possible zone which is easily stimulated with electronic impulses. And yet fear guides his impulses on his religious beliefs. This is dangerous — a scientist who allows his personal fears to overpower what science confirms. This is troubling but in the overall context, does not disqualify him from atheist support. Sadly, there are a lot fools who view his religious mania as a disqualification from serious consideration — ignoring the fact that he is actually right about the most important issue of our times. A very strange position.
On today’s PBS “news” presentations there was a desperate dismissive attempt to brush off Carson’s rise to #1 and scant, if any, note of the real reason he is the new #1. OF COURSE it is because he’s the only one talking truthfully about Islam. That’s all it takes for any candidate to rise to the top. None of the others have the guts to tell the truth that America demands at this point. Only Carson does.
voegelinian says
“Which means he knows all about the research which shows that religion and spiritual feelings are entirely a function of the survival mechanism that evolution has left in our brains…”
I doubt Ben Carson “knows” such drivel. He has more sense than that.
Budvarakbar says
Religious nut — you mean like the MoBroHood a$$holes in the WH?
quotha raven says
Religious nut? I am not a religious person, but I revere Christian values. I am really tired of people maligning these values. Counter-productive and simply nasty. What are you afraid of, BlueRaven? Your rhetoric makes you sound like a jerk.
I’m more interested in finding out what finally happened to that filmmaker. Tasteless and silly though his video was, I don’t think it qualified him for the Stalinist treatment he suffered. Would love to see HIM interviewed, but he’s probably altogether and justifiably too terrified.
Cheers, all! quotha r
voegelinian says
“I’m more interested in finding out what finally happened to that filmmaker.”
As of 2012, the Mohammed video producer/filmmaker was sentenced to one year of prison, followed by four years of “supervised release” — the latter meaning that he is out of prison, but has to watch himself or he’ll be arrested again, since he was arrested in 2012 partially because he was already under “supervised release” from a previous problem with the law — “after being convicted in 2010 of bank and credit-card fraud, in which he was accused of causing $800,000 in losses.”
He has multiple aliases: the one as of 2012 was Mark Basseley Youssef, and prior to that it was Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, as well as Sam Basile (or Bacile).
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/11/innocence-muslims-filmmaker-sentenced.html
Doing a little more Googling I can’t find out what the filmmaker is doing now, but I found interesting further information on a disturbing judicial action in the immediate aftermath, then later signs of hope in the American system:
Apparently, some time perhaps in 2014, the 9th Circuit’s three-judge panel – led by then-Chief Judge Alex Kozinski ordered Google to take down the video trailer. “Prior to issuing an opinion in 2014, the panel had issued a secret order to Google, demanding that it take down the trailer within 24 hours, “ That may sound rather chilling, but to me it’s rather evidence of the irrational lengths which PC MCs will go to in order to anxiously avoid “poking the hornet’s nest” of Muslims they view as volatile, flammable primitives who have no ethical or intellectual ability to control themsleves, and whose volatile flammability is our responsibility to try to prevent — in this case, through emergency censorship.
Anyway, the hopeful sign later was this:
In 2015 apparently, Circuit Judge M. Margaret McKeown overturned that order of the 9th Circuit’s three-judge panel — not only using language of legal technicality to do so, but also striking a deeper chord:
Judge McKeown ruled that …its injunction was “unwarranted and incorrect as a matter of law,” and “gave short shrift to the First Amendment values at stake,” she added.
“The mandatory injunction censored and suppressed a politically significant film – based upon a dubious and unprecedented theory of copyright. In so doing, the panel deprived the public of the ability to view firsthand, and judge for themselves, a film at the center of an international uproar,” McKeown wrote in her 30-page opinion.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2015/05/18/google-wins-innocence-of-muslims-rights-fight.htm
For me, that’s like Reason #317,043 why I don’t think, as some Counter-Jihad Real Problemers do, that America and the rest of the West are hopelessly in thrall to some nefarious cabal of “Leftist” “Elites”.
The “Real Problemers
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-real-problemers.html
quotha raven says
Thanks, Voeg. I knew what he was sentenced at the time; would have thought the court might have reviewed his case after it became clear that he was being used by the treacherous folks we in the USA have elected to office. Since he went to the pokey, I’ve heard nothing further, no interviews, with this crook. He is a crook, even though he qualifies for victimhood in my view in this case.
BTW, did you notice that “Sam Bacile” sounds just like “It is an imbecile” in French?
Cheers!
quotha r
Jeremiah says
Thank you. I was curious myself. Does that mean the film crew has a claim for damages against anybody? Defamation? False Arrest?
voegelinian says
BTW, did you notice that “Sam Bacile” sounds just like “It is an imbecile” in French?
You mean spelled s’imbécile…?
I doubt this Coptic Christian filmmaker was thinking of the obsolete meaning of imbécile used by (among others) 17th century Catholic theologian François Fénélon, meaning “incapable” or “powerless” —
“Défaut, quit rend un homme imbécile pour le gouvernement.”
— but it would have been bitterly appropriate.
quotha raven says
Voeg -who sez “Défaut, quit rend un homme imbécile pour le gouvernement.”
I wasn’t familiar with the quote you provide, but wouldn’t it be “qui” rend…etc?
This means “(this?) Fault/flaw renders a man stupid as (far as) government (is concerned).” non?
In any case, if that’s what it means, it is as you say, bitterly relevant.
Cheers! qr
voegelinian says
Woops, quotha, that “quit” was a typo, should be “qui” as you noted.
Actually, I in that 17th century context (which I noted above also makes the word mean “incapable” or “powerless”) that quote —
“Défaut, qui rend un homme imbécile pour le gouvernement.
— means something like, to loosely translate,
“A slip-up, which renders a man impotent by the government.”
Jeremiah says
Unless we return to God, the Bible and Prayer, we are lost. At the next election we will be given a choice between Good and Evil. It will be clear. Who is on God’s side will be clear. This has never happened in any other elections but we came close last time and we chose Evil. Carson understands that better than anybody so he is likely to be the Republican candidate . . . but will he win? Who is on the Lord’s side?
But think about this: What if Carson loses?
Budvarakbar says
That choice has been up for almost every election since 1992 — the Am voters have usually chosen wrong!
Peggy says
It all depends on who the elites want in the office this time.
Election can be rigged and probably will be.
somehistory says
She told her daughter via email…a personal email…not department business…it was a terror attack by al queda. She tried to get rid of the *personal emails* as they only related to showers and hair do appointments, yoga and things. But this one showed she lied and lied and lied.
And it all goes back to the Istanbul Process…to squelch free speech about islam…one way or another. It was not supposed to be found out that the video had nothing to do with what happened, but while it was promoted as the *reason*…it could be held over the heads of any and all who speak the truth about islam…something that moslims just can’t allow. If others were made afraid of speaking the truth about islam…then the one guy going back to prison…because he was out of compliance with his parole…but really because he had made a video about islam…others might be afraid to speak out.
It’s all wrapped up in not allowing the truth to be told. About the only *religion* allowed by moslims and their friends in positions of power.
Jeremiah says
You speak the truth. The truth is not in Hillary! She is a traitor who needs execution to save this country from destroying itself. As for the unfortunate people who got caught in her deliberate mischief, they need restitution for damages of defamation.
Azacque says
If Hilary made full restitution to all she would need to go on welfare.
Execution well she has been treason ess.
Lia Wissing says
‘The light that lies in Hilry’s eyes
just lies & lies’ (My sincere apologies to the original author.)
wildjew says
From left-leaning Politico. An honest progressive:
Nancy Frederick
I’m done reading Huffpo. It’s all Hillary, all the time. They don’t even try to hide their bias. I might even vote for Hillary, but no “news” outlet should be the Tokyo Rose for one candidate, like Fox was for Bush.
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Jeremiah says
Which was the honest bit?
voegelinian says
wildjew says
“I might even vote for Hillary…”
There should be no “might” about it in the Counter-Jihad. Good God, man (or should I say, Good G_d…?)
Jay Boo says
voeg
I believe wildjew is quoting Nancy Frederick but forgot the quotes.
voegelinian says
I see that now; sorry, wildjew.
Angemon says
Someone page Bernie: on the next debate, the great, might ruler is to wave his hand, Jedi (or Sith) style, and tell the American public that they’re sick and tired of listening about Benghazi and the video, and that they want to focus on the real problems.
And by “page” I mean “snail mail”…
Myxlplik says
The innocence of Sam Basile, waiting for the Souther Poverty Law Center to take up the case of a civil rights investigation against Obama and Hillary
#satiristlivesmatter
Ren says
Will she be the next US president ? Just asking.
wildjew says
It depends on who the Republicans choose. Will we nominate another wimp, like we did in 2008, 2012?
Ren says
Ben Carson or Ted Cruz are ok (not a wimp).
Wellington says
Ted Cruz criticized Ben Carson for asserting that no Muslim who adheres to Sharia should become POTUS. Are you aware of this?
Jermiah says
We voted for Clinton after he was doing to the Country what he did to Monica. We voted for Obama while we were tied backwards over a barrel. What was the question again?
duh_swa,i says
Who is ‘we’?
Joseph says
I wonder when Hillary is going to go on another bender. You JUST HAVE to see this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li397HTHmt0
Is it true and real? You decide.
Cecilia Ellis says
Joseph, I checked out the website link you provided. The video in question is indeed purposefully slowed down. The originator of the altered video — moniker quinnyb 1886 — acknowledges twice in the comments section that the video was modified for entertainment purposes. Here are the two comments provided by “quinnyb 1886”:
First comment:
“quinnyb1886
its not real its supposed to be entertainment”
Second comment:
“quinnyb1886
@beechiegirl lol i made this 4 years ago when i WAS in 8th grade. and im not a republican or a democrat so idgaf”
Conclusion:
Too bad it’s not real. We could have used it. 🙁
Joseph says
@ Cecilia Ellis
I do however think she has a drinking problem.
Funny thing though when I found that video the comment section was just loading and loading, never showed up on my screen.
Shmooviyet says
@Cecilia E: you are a great ‘checker’!
Also unfortunate that so many “idgaf” types will be voting, so they can someday boast they voted for the first female President.
I do wonder about the booze question, when she so continually rests her chin on her hand and appears as though she can’t wait for that first Jagermeister at the end of a boring day of questioning.
duh_swa,i says
They swept the broken and dead body of poor Ben Gazhi under the carpet of deceit, and then they lied…and then they lied some more.
Budvarakbar says
And they are still lying
Wellington says
Vile woman. Inveterate liar. Arrogant beyond all measure. Entertains a multitude of bad ideas she thinks are good ideas.
Massively incompetent in public policy initiatives (really, anyone doubting this, I dare you to name a single accomplishment of this woman while functioning in the public sector). Sexist (oh yeah, some of the worst sexists in our era, minus mucho numbers of Muslims of course, are Western feminists and Hillary is pretty much at the top of the list here). Enabler of her husband’s many sexual transgressions, even to the extent of orchestrating intimidation tactics against many of Bill’s “women.” Phony to the core (e.g., the way she puts on a southern or a black accent when she speaks to selective audiences). Not as bright as many think she is (e.g., the whole e-mail mess). Ready to crush not only the Second Amendment but the First Amendment as well. Definitely thinks that she is above the law, which applies to almost all other people but not to her and hubby. Finally, terrible, and I mean terrible, sartorial taste; most of the time she’s walking around with variations on a Mao suit, often accompanied by her clapping in total totalitarian manner.
This woman is bad for America. For the West in general. For freedom. Oh yeah, bad all around. Only fools, ignoramuses and the malevolent will vote for her.
st patrick says
Forgot one Well..she covers her cough with her right hand..How many handshakes does a President have to make? And how many people’s hands has she already shook? Scary..but yeah you nailed it..as usual..gysh..
epistemology says
Well said as usual, dear Wellington. Hillary is bad for the whole West. She sucks up to Mohammedans and her Muslim Sisterhood adviser Huma is always around her. The two women have got more in common than that. Huma also forgave her hubby after having betrayed her with another woman. Both of them have total control of their hubbies, they’ve got to do what their wives want. That’s how feminists are they like to oppress men.
Hillary should be imprisoned for what she did or didn’t do, she didn’t prevent four American citizens serving their country from being killed. At least this should be the end of her campaign. In private she even admitted that the funny and innocuous filmmaker wasn’t to blame. But Obama had him imprisoned for violation of sharia law. That’s outrageous!
Both of us agree, Ben Carson is the right man, he’s smart and he sticks to Western values. No sharia, anywhere!
Wish you and your loved ones all the best, take care my friend.
David says
She gets caught in a lie and she keeps lying.
somehistory says
Several sites have pointed out how she put the blame on Mr. Stevens for his death due to the security issue…as *he was the one on the ground* there and would know what was needed, even though he didn’t have her email address.
She may escape the judgment of the human courts. But the Ultimate Judgement will find her.
Mo says
She knows she’s lying, We know she’s lying. She knows we know she’s lying. She does not care. She’s a liberal, so she knows she’ll get away with it. (At least, in this life. How I long for the day when her laughing and mocking will cease as she stands before Christ Himself to give account!)
But she knows nothing will happen to her here. That is why she is so insufferable arrogant.
And people are STILL following her. I had one commenter on either YouTube or some article tell me they were going to make a donation to her campaign.
THAT is how evil these leftists are.
worldcitizen1919 says
She’s the next US President. I think it’s a foregone conclusion.
The USA needs leaders who are sincere but somehow I don’t think that’s going to happen.
Enragedsince1999 says
Not only did she lie, but she told the father of Tyrone Woods, one of the Americans killed in Benghazi : “We will arrest him and put them in prison”, referring to that little Christian, Nakoula who created the Muhammad video. Sure enough, an enormous police force had descended on the home of Nakoula (who was on probation for some check-kiting) as if he was a dangerous terrorist. His probation was revoked, and he was thrown in prison. All this for making the video as Clinton made abundantly clear. A man persecuted and punished for exercising his freedom of speech in the United States of America ! All this out of cowardice before the Muslims and to shift the blame from herself on that innocent man ! This is how base are the persons who are the leading candidates for the presidency of the United States of America !
Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.
Bezelel says
Revelation 21:8
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters,( and all liars,) shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death
What little I know about criminal psychology includes that their mentality doesn’t consider the consequences. Truth or Consequences, I hope the entire demoncrat party and progressive movement are set back 50yrs from the Truth coming out.
somehistory says
Psychopaths don’t consider the consequences, can’t feel empathy, don’t see themselves as ever the one to blame but always point the finger at someone else when it is made apparent to them by one who is accusing them of wrong, “I didn’t do it, he/she/they did it”…They look for people to manipulate and after using that person, go on to the next without even a hint of remorse…they never feel remorse. But their attitude is, “It’s all Me”…”me’ is the only one of importance and whatever makes “me” feel good in the moment.
She says she *accepts responsibility* for whatever, but she doesn’t even know the meaning of accepting responsibility. If she is arrested…unlikely with the rest of the *party” covering for her, like e. cummings…she will be unable to stop thinking of who she can *use* to get out of the situation without feeling any guilt.
Kepha compared her to Athalia from the Book of 2 Kings, daughter of Jezebel. A fitting comparison
Like those two ancient women, hillary has done much for which she will answer.
Bezelel says
I remember as a child, adults would refer to a woman as a Jezebel to infer loose morals. When I actually read about her I don’t see how that comparison came about. She truly was a Cruella DeVille type. I even recently saw an ad for a perfume named Jezebel. Not my kind of girl.
kepha says
A colleague posted on her classroom door a little poster reading, “terror is when you realize that your high school class is running things”. While I’m a little younger than Shrillary Shroooo, that poster captures how that vile critter makes me feel.
I think that the truth is out for whoever cares to see it. Unhappily, vast swathes of the American electorate don’t want to see it.
Wellington says
“Unhappily, vast swathes of the American electorate don’t want to see it.”
Tending to prove, Kepha, as I know you know, that ignorance in the American body politic, in direct proportion to the extent that it exists, is just about the greatest ally of someone like Hillary Clinton. Yes indeed, HC’s success relies upon a great deal of ignorance, not only hers but millions of others, and such ignorance, which favors a reprobate like HC, has grown significantly over the past half century and exponentially over the past couple decades.
Troubling. Damning. But so indicative of our sorry-ass times. Hillary Clinton could be Exhibit #1 here confirming this truth. And even more sadly, she could be the beneficiary of this truth should she win the Presidency (God forbid).
Baucent says
The email evidence establishes beyond doubt that Clinton knew that the attack was a planned jihadist attack.
Knowing that, the most disgraceful episode in this saga was her lying to the father of one of the fallen heroes. Telling him as he was receiving his son’s body, “We will get those people who made that video.”
Clinton has a total lack of integrity,character or honor.
Budvarakbar says
Actually putting the video guy in prison was far worse — see the movie “Judgement at Nuremberg” for some enlightenment – Spencer Tracy, Burt Lancaster, Maximilian Schell, Werner Klemperer (Col. Klink), Judy Garland, Marlene Dietrich, Richard Widmark, Montgomery Clift, William Shatner.
somehistory says
Little hillary just laughed and laughed cause she knew all along that a group of terrorists attacked the compound where Mr. Stevens, a man whom she had sent to Libya, and others were murdered and the film had nothing to do with it.
I had just recalled the “Little Audrey” jokes and the headline for this fit as well as the genre of jokes told about Little Audrey.
DeMolay says
I’ve just had a little look at the CAIR website. Interestingly Clinton is praised in their ‘rundown of presidential candidates’ as she introduced Ramadan to the white house.
Then further down a republican is criticised for having a Christian prayer group.
Wow
How are you guys over the pond not getting this ‘charity’ shut down? Now meddling in politics with their devious agenda.
I wrote them a long letter on email, pointing out where they’re going wrong. I don’t expect a reply.
Les says
Hillary is an incompetent uncaring unrepentant a$$hole that lied and four Americans died. You vote for this tramp and you are no better!
duh_swami says
Dubious activities, lack of honesty, lack of ethics, lack of morals, and blood on her hands…Perfect DNC candidate…..
Infidave says
On the subject of “Nothing To Do With Islam” Is it just me or has everybody who tries to defend islam and it’s atrocities have slowly but surely realized this type of dialogue just does not makes sense anymore?
I honestly think that events that have happened are so blatantly obvious to be linked to islam they have given up on trying to defend it.
Show these muslim cowards they do not frighten us.
Long Live ALA!!!
Lorensacho says
As I recall, the video which denigrated Muslims created a firestorm in Muslim countries where there were riots and deaths, so it was not a stretch for the administration to think that the attack on the embassy had something to do with the video. When the administration found out who really initiated the attack and then rolled back its statement that it was not solely the video that motivated the rage, then is that a lie or just the admission that they had jumped to conclusions with insufficient information. One could say if it wanted to be harsh on the administration that they lied, but I see it more as incompetence brought on by the lack of or corruption of intelligence.
Davegreybeard says
@Lorensacho
“When the administration found out who really initiated the attack and then rolled back its statement that it was not solely the video that motivated the rage, then is that a lie or just the admission that they had jumped to conclusions with insufficient information.”
“Lorensacho” is lying.
“Lorensacho” knows that (he/she/it) is lying.
But apparently “Lorensacho” is not bright enough to know that we know he is lying.
So, not only is “Lorensacho” despicable, he is also quite stupid as well.
Bezelel says
Corruption of intelligence? That is called lying. You can pick the fly poop out of the pepper with chop sticks if you want to. It is still a big fat lie.
voegelinian says
“As I recall, the video which denigrated Muslims created a firestorm in Muslim countries where there were riots and deaths…”
The video didn’t denigrate Muslims, per se; it denigrated their collective Freudian Id & Superego (i.e., Prophet Muhammad). The fact that Muslims explode in various countries over a video, with riots and over 50 deaths resulting, means that Muslims should be denigrated, for fuck sake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_of_Muslims
Jeremiah says
It is impossible to denigrate Islam. The truth makes one throw up.
quotha raven says
to lorensacho, who sez “As I recall, the video which denigrated Muslims created a firestorm in Muslim countries where there were riots and deaths, so it was not a stretch for the administration to think that the attack on the embassy had something to do with the video.”
Did you just make this up? Did you dream it? THERE WERE NO RIOTS OR DEATHS ANYWHERE that were generated by the stupid video.
“so it was not a stretch for the administration to think…” LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE. Or PANTS SUITS, as the case may be. You, lorensacho, are either a complete moron or a deliberate liar troll trying to make excuses for the traitors you probably voted for. Your comment disgusts me, but I am heartened to note that many others see through your pure, dishonest, phony drivel. Cheers! qr
voegelinian says
There were riots and over 50 deaths, in some Muslim countries including Pakistan, Karachi, Lebanon, Malaysia and Bangladesh and Egypt, later that month of September (the embassy commando jihad was Sept. 11). This CNN report implies that such mob frenzy went back as far as to the day of Sept. 11 —
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/21/world/anti-islam-film-protests
quotha raven says
Voeg – I do not believe these were inspired by Sam Becile’s video trailer, which I have seen, unless there was complicity AFTER THE FACT by CNN and the Obama administration. Manipulated news with a purpose. Just curious: Who do you think caused this obscure and stupid little bit of video to “go viral” if, indeed, it did? That this happened AFTER Benghazi is significant, don’t you think?
Cheers – qr
voegelinian says
quotha, in the absence of direct proof, if there is something conspiratorial going on here, I prefer to impute that to Muslims, not to the West. Some Counter-Jihad analysts — notably the eminently sound Stephen Coughlin — have theorized that most (if not all) of the events we’ve seen in the Muslim world of violent mass protests & turbulence, including various Mohammed cartoon riots, etc., have been orchestrated by a network of demagogues/clerics/Muslim Brotherhood operatives. And these various orchestrations that have occurred have been, as Coughlin points out, in synch with various initiatives by the O.I.C. as well as by a multitude of Muslim organizations (ISNA, MAS, and CAIR just being the American versions) — all in various ways pushing for more respect and protection and integration of Islam in the West.
And as I have often pointed out, this elaborate agenda by such stealth jihadists would not enjoy the widespread traction it does in fact enjoy, were there not already a gullibly receptive predisposition in the West — PC MC. Why this predisposition? I don’t think it’s nefarious; I think it’s sincerely deluded, based primarily upon anxious Western White Guilt and a perception that Muslims are a non-Western ethnic people (or a wonderful diversity of non-Western ethnic peoples) — and given added impetus by the violently volatile and threatening behavior of Muslims; a bristling tendency towards networked violence unlike any other perceived ethnic group.
underbed cat says
I watched the questioning of Hillary. 2015. In 2012 I was happened to catch C-span where the Repulbicans were questioning people who were in Benghazi prior and were scheduled to leave. They knew about the security issues, had stated they had made many attempts to increase security and had felt frustrated. Some improvements were made, but one witnessed whose name I remember, said something to the effect it was like asking for the “sun, moon and stars”, and that it felt like that taliban was already in the house.” it was startling comment. From the recent hearings, it seems Hillary was not in charge of security and did not get these messages. So who was in charge of security.
If I am not mistaken, there was not direct line (cell phone access to Hillary), it had to pass thru others to notify. This was a tragic, but not uncommon attack as they were happening all around at other embassies. So I was very surprised to hear her say she had never been contacted, no link, so who did take calls for security? Libya is and was a very scary place..
underbed cat says
Got off subject of video causing riots in Libya prior comment so , Hillary knew enough about slander (truth telling, video about a prophet) to use it as a cause, but not enough to know that riots turn violent and U.S. embassies and annex would be targets, but not enough to know that islamic muslims fight among each other and supporting one group over another can also cause issues, attacks. It is a dilemma when you try to interject the infidel into islamic issues Policy about not connecting islamic jihadit attacks to a connective tissue of islam. That is what we are dealing with, not just violent rebels connected to what?
Whatever was the plan at the annex maybe should not be exposed, but why not extra security should be examined. As it seems to be the added problem.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Re: “I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks.”
WHAT A LIAR!
Pointing out a potentially inflammatory (albeit previously obscure and unknown) video as a possible cause of the attacks TO MUSLIMS in the region, could ONLY incite them to commit more attacks, BY giving them that as a valid form of excuse to justify doing so!
SHE WAS CLEARLY DELIBERATELY INCITING MORE ATTACKS by referencing it!
UNCLE VLADDI says
Re: “I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks.”
WHAT A LIAR!!!
Pointing out a potentially inflammatory (albeit previously obscure and unknown) video as a possible cause of the attacks TO MUSLIMS in the region, could ONLY incite them to commit more attacks, BY giving them that as a valid form of excuse to justify doing so!
SHE WAS CLEARLY DELIBERATELY INCITING MORE ATTACKS by referencing it!
somehistory says
You are correct.
quotha raven says
I agree with Uncle Vladdi and Somehistory 100%. Cheers! quotha r
duh_swami says
#Character matters….;We came, we saw, he died;,,,Laughter
Laughter? Glee? Arrogance? Cruelty?….Perfect
Jack Holan says
This is a page out of the Stalinist-Mao Hand-book to deflect. Get together, conspire, scapegoat someone innocent of what you, yourselves caused, jail him and then publicly denounce this brute for causing it. If at the same time you can alter the rights of people enjoy today-all the better. Ask many former prisoners from the Gulag! China more problematic since tens of millions during the Collectivization to Industrialization and then again during the Cultural Revolution with Maos little Red Book Book were executed or sent off to re-education camps. The start of putting Film Makers in Prison and changing the Bill of Rights by Obama/Clinton is the start. Interesting when a movie about the assassination of George W a sitting President was made and Americans objected, GOP objected people such as Clinton claimed we were censoring.
Ver Auger says
Can anyone please explain to me why and how it was a “parole violation” for a paroled prisoner to exercise his First Amendment right of free speech by uploading a video on You Tube?
The First Amendment protects both free speech and freedom of religion, so it should doubly protect speech about religion or expressing religious belief or disbelief or opposition to beliefs.
I am very curious what the pretext was for imprisoning the film maker and all the associated circumstances. Details, anyone? This is the real story……
quotha raven says
To Ver Auger – As I recall it, Sam Bacile was on parole with certain restrictions he had to follow to remain free on parole. As he used a computer in his criminal activities (fraud, etc) I believe he was prohibited from operating a computer during the period of his supervised parole.
When he made the video, it was possible to charge him with a violation of one or more of the provisions of his parole.So when the trumped up news about his tacky little vid came out and proved so useful to those who wanted a scapegoat and a reason for Benghazi.
The video was subsequently critically important to bolster up the story that it was the motivator at Benghazi when it was skillfully distributed and manipulated by propaganda experts to incite additional riots and demonstrations in Egypt, Tunisia, et al AFTER THE 9/11 attack at Benghazi.
It is significant that all these demonstrations happened AFTER Benghazi, and none before.Seems staged in the clear light of hindsight. This is all I remember, except that Sam Bacile got tossed back into jail somewhere in CA for a year – this was his sentence for the parole violation, and I have heard no recent news of Mr Bacile, much as I would like to hear his side of the story. A smart interview would be enlightening, I think.
Cheers!
Quotha R
Godwin says
The Jihadis kill Americans when they can catch them off guard and not based on any video. American politicians are telling lies often to suit their agendas.
Logoman says
One moment she looks bored, the next she is smiling. This is the face of evil. This woman has no conscience and is the worst fucking liar ever.