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Hollywood director’s son converts to Islam, stars in al-Qaeda videos

Oct 18, 2015 9:19 pm By Robert Spencer

When Lucas Kinney converted to Islam and became Abu Basir al-Britani, it is likely that his parents didn’t raise the slightest objection, as they were almost certainly sure that Islam was a religion of peace and that to object to the conversion would have violated all multicultural pieties. While the Islamic State and al-Qaeda make concerted efforts to convert and recruit young Westerners, Western governments, Christian leaders, and parents do absolutely nothing to counter those efforts — to do anything would be “Islamophobic.” And so we will see many more Abu Basir al-Britanis.

Also: here we see yet another convert to Islam joining the jihad that Muslims in the West ostensibly reject and oppose. Who converted him to Islam? Did he learn his understanding of Islam from that person, or was he “radicalized on the Internet”? Are authorities checking into this, or would that, too, be “Islamophobic”?

Abu Basir al-Britani Lucas Kinney

“EXCLUSIVE: British son of Hollywood movie director, 26, is revealed as bloodthirsty star of al-Qaeda propaganda videos after converting from Catholicism and smuggling himself to Syria,” by Tom Wyke and Neil Sears, Daily Mail, October 18, 2015 (thanks to Michael):

The white British son of a film director has converted from Catholicism to Islam and become an al-Qaeda fighter in Syria, the MailOnline can reveal.

Lucas Kinney, 26, has become a figurehead for the jihadis – appearing in online propaganda videos designed to encourage new recruits to sign up.

The first white British convert to emerge in Syria, as a Home Counties schoolboy he took holy communion at a Roman Catholic church and attended Catholic primary and secondary schools. As a teenager, he even spoke of being a priest.

His father Patrick, 59, worked closely with Steven Spielberg on films including Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade and was assistant director on a long series of blockbusters.

Mother Deborah Phipps, 53, who was divorced from Lucas’s father when he was still at primary school, told yesterday of her dread that her son will be the next Briton killed by a RAF drone strike or in a Russian bombardment, and her fears that he might become a suicide bomber.

Mrs Phipps, who receives occasional emails from her son, is at a loss to explain how he went from a bright, normal teenager to a Muslim fanatic.

After leaving school he attended Leeds University but dropped out after a year. He played in a series of rock bands then went to live with his father in Vienna. It was there that he is believed to have been radicalised.

He is now a figurehead of the Syrian al-Qaeda-linked group Jabhat al-Nusra, and has starred in two propaganda videos posted online under the nom de guerre Abu Basir al-Britani….

Mrs Phipps said: ‘Lucas is a target. I’m glad he’s associated with al-Qaeda rather than IS, but obviously I worry.

‘On Mother’s Day last year I spoke to his father and he told me he thought our son was dead because there was a picture of him on the internet lying on a bed in Syria and you couldn’t tell if he was alive.

‘Later that day we found out he wasn’t dead but was seriously injured. He’d been struck by a mortar so his arm basically was hanging off. He had to have a big operation and he said he wouldn’t be able to fight for about 18 months.

‘I last heard from him recently. I don’t get anything for months and months and then all of a sudden I get an email and every time I think, ‘Well, at least he’s still alive’. That’s the relief.

‘He’s married out there. I don’t know anything about her. They don’t have any children as far as I know, but this is recent, the last few months.

‘We just want him to come home. If he’s done something wrong I’d like him to accept the consequences. He’s still young – and at least he’s still alive.’

Most British jihadis in Syria are born Muslims of overseas descent – but the existence of a white convert only emerged online several months ago in the two Jabhat al-Nusra videos presented by ‘Abu Basir al-Britani’. Not until today has he been exposed as Lucas Kinney.

Bespectacled, calm and well-spoken, he sounds very much England-born as he talks about the atrocities being carried out by Jabhat al-Nusra’s rivals ISIS. Both films are journalistic in style in contrast to the crude attempts at visual terror in IS videos.

One of Kinney’s professionally produced videos is entitled ‘So the Way of the Criminals Will Become Clear’.

In it, he visits the scene of an IS attack on a mosque in a Jabhat al-Nusra area of Syria, but adds with the faith of a fervent convert that the ‘good thing’ for his murdered ‘brothers’ is that ‘Allah chose to take them in a very good time. He gave them an honourable death’.

Referring to Islamic State, Kinney says the group ‘is not deserving of that name’.

His broadcasts are designed to encourage other Britons to join his al-Qaeda group in Syria, a criminal offence in Britain.

Some observers mocked him, with ‘Don’t forget your toothbrush’ jibes after they noted that in one video, while Kinney had an AK-47 over his shoulder, there was a green and white toothbrush tucked in amid the ammo in his military webbing.

Kinney, who has a younger brother and sister, was born in Hammersmith, West London, in 1989 to his CofE British mother and his British/American Roman Catholic father.

His father Patrick, son of a United Nations diplomat, started his movie career as an assistant director on the film 1984, and progressed through one of the Rambo films, Out Of Africa and Cry Freedom to working alongside Spielberg on Empire Of The Sun and Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade.

In addition to working on numerous other films and ITV police drama series The Bill, he was second assistant director on Braveheart and Chaplin.

The family settled initially in a modern detached house in the Home Counties. Kinney followed his father to the local church and, said his mother, attended both the linked primary school and nearby Catholic secondary.

After a few years his parents divorced, his father moved to Florida alone, and his mother remarried, to an airline manager.

When Kinney’s stepfather got a three-year posting to Saudi Arabia the whole family moved there.

They feared evacuation because they arrived only days before September 11, 2001 – the moment when al-Qaeda launched itself on the world by bringing down the World Trade Centre.

When fears calmed they stayed, and after private English schooling in Saudi Arabia, the family went on to Egypt. Kinney was placed at the elite private Modern English School in Cairo, and performed in numerous school plays.

He grew his hair long, dyeing it red, and formed and played electric guitar in a series of rock bands, one called Hannah’s Got Herpes. He also posted pictures of scantily clad girls on Facebook. In Cairo he gained International GCSEs and then three A-levels including music and art.

He then lived briefly with his father in a Vienna flat during a gap year before beginning a Middle Eastern Studies with Arabic course at Leeds University in 2009.

After a year he dropped out, and returned to live with his father in Vienna. It is there he is thought to have become a Muslim convert.

Mrs Phipps said: ‘Lucas’s father Patrick is a Catholic and Lucas is Catholic – he did Holy Communion and everything. At one stage, when he was 12 or 13, he wanted to be a priest.

‘He’s very bright, very talented, very musical, very artistic, good at anything creative. But he was always still looking for something, some sort of direction.

‘In Cairo he was very social, had lots of friends, and was very easy going. He was in bands and behaved like a typical teenager. I wasn’t particularly worried about him.

‘He didn’t become a Muslim then. He liked pop music, all the school productions he was in, a performer basically. He used to do battle of the bands as well because he played guitar a lot.’

She added that while Kinney was in Vienna with his father, she and her husband moved to Islamabad, Pakistan, leaving her two youngest in UK boarding schools, for her second husband’s job with BA – but again were rocked by terror just after arriving.

al-Qaeda was blamed for killing 56 with a bomb at the Marriott hotel in Islamabad in September 2008. It led to BA suspending flights there, and the family coming straight back to Britain.

Speaking of his year at Leeds, his mother said: ‘I don’t think he became involved in Islam there. He liked drinking and smoking and girls, all the things that basically they can’t do.

‘When Lucas went to Vienna – that was where everything changed. Lucas did not say he was becoming a Muslim, but we used to talk on Skype so we could see him, and obviously you could see he had become a Muslim.

‘His father said, ‘His religion is very important to him’. He had a beard and the robes, it was quite obvious. After a while he moved out to live with friends. We didn’t even really discuss it.’

She was not in touch with him for some time, but then came the sudden Mother’s Day discovery that he was a jihadi in Syria.

Mrs Phipps said: ‘When I found out he was in Syria I said, ‘If I could get on a plane and come out there and bring you back, I would’. But he said, ‘No, that’s not what I want’. They have to want to come back, then maybe you can take steps.

‘A long time ago he said to me, ‘They’re killing Muslims’. He was talking about Assad, the Syrian president. He said, ‘They’re raping women, killing children as well’. I think it’s Assad’s regime, fighting that, that’s taken him there.

‘There are pictures of him on Facebook with guns. I think he possibly would martyr himself – I think he’s mentioned it once a long time ago. And this is another one of our fears, that he would do that.’

Mrs Phipps said her son had never talked of attacking the West, but added: ‘In emails from Syria he kept using koranic phrases and wants everyone to convert.’…

Kinney’s last contact with his mother was short. It featured koranic references and asked after his father’s health….

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  1. Noor al-Amriki says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Mrs Phipps said: ‘Lucas is a target. I’m glad he’s associated with al-Qaeda rather than IS, but obviously I worry.

    What is this woman smoking???

    • Jack says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 11:26 pm

      As for me I hope for the innocent’s sake that Mother Phipps dread comes true, this spoiled moron deserves it.

      • Shane says

        Oct 19, 2015 at 11:49 am

        Yes, I hope that the traitor is killed. This guy probably finds appealing about Islam that holy warriors may rape, murder, and molest little girls with the approval of Allah.

    • Katnis says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 11:57 pm

      She’s not smoking anything. This is her child she loves him and she wants him to come home.Think about it. I”m sure she is haunted daily, wondering if her son is alive and wondering if it was something she did. She sounds reasonable here, saying that she wants him to accept responsibility and insinuating that there is still a chance for him to *somehow* find a way back to a good life.

      I can’t explain his choices. At all. They don’t make sense. But as a person who loves my family members and hates to see people I love in distress, my heart goes out to her.

      • Noor al-Amriki says

        Oct 19, 2015 at 8:42 am

        You miss the point. She said she is glad her son joined al-Qaeda and not the Islamic State, like one is worse than the other.

        • Texasgal says

          Nov 17, 2015 at 2:55 am

          Technically the difference is that jihad kill only the targets that offend them. ISIS aims to cause pain by killing innocent ppl in every day life i.e. Paris Bataclan, restaurants etc.

      • Shane says

        Oct 19, 2015 at 3:39 pm

        If I had a child who converted to Islam and joined and Islamic terrorist group, then I would pray that he be killed and never return home.

      • underbed cat says

        Oct 20, 2015 at 11:07 am

        I understand “distress” that is due to a family member that you may love but has gone the wrong way, it can be many directions, crime, drugs, and spiritual misdirection. This mother is clueless as to the depth her son has been seduced by the words from the koran, starting out peaceful ending with the duty to slay the infidel (nonbelievers) literally. This is all happening because of the very laws of slander which prohibits examination and defines the truth as hate speech, layered with civil rights and diversity dogma it is the trojan horse technique.

        Hence the need to know that all the terror groups we have been dealing with are subjugated, and directed by the words of islamic teaching and although they fight one group to another they will merge together to strive for a caliphate and global rule. It’s been that way for hundreds of years, not too much changed. Terror tramps down information. Information that is accurate is the only way out, and it will not come from the enemy.

    • Don McKellar says

      Oct 19, 2015 at 10:26 am

      HAHA! That blew me away, too!

    • mahghan says

      Oct 19, 2015 at 11:12 am

      Maybe she doesn’t know that Al Qaeda slaughtered hundreds in Kenya and thousands in Libya when it spearheaded the ground attacks on Libyans when Gaddafi was bombed out by Hillary and Obama. More recently, Al-Qaeda led the attacks on Africans in Mali killing and torturing hundreds in the process as that dastardly terror group tried to turn Mali into Islamist state.

    • Dr. Divinity says

      Oct 19, 2015 at 9:07 pm

      She is smoking Islam….guaranteed to cause islamic cancer

    • swissik says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 12:24 am

      That struck me as well and I thought with a mother like this is it any wonder that the young man converted?

    • Karen says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 12:29 pm

      “What is this woman smoking???”

      That’s what I was wondering. Sounds like she has a pesky vacuum between her ears.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 10:07 pm

      Noor, I just saw your post. Hope all is going well with you.

  2. Peggy says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    Who cares if it’s not PC to tell your kids not to convert to that evil, just do it. I have been preaching to my kids for years and showing them information on Islam. You have to save your kids and being labelled racist is nothing compared to the pain of them converting and throwing their life away.

    • Raja says

      Oct 19, 2015 at 10:34 am

      Peggy,

      Words of wisdom from you…I will fight tooth and nail anyone wanting to convert to Islam as I believe it is the devil’s own ideology masquerading as a religion.

  3. Jay Boo says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    ‘In emails from Syria he kept using koranic phrases and wants everyone to convert.’

    He desperately needs reassurance that he made the right decision.
    Misery loves company.
    Becoming a Muslim was the best decision he could ever make said the imam.
    Unfortunately — the imam is a Muslim.
    The video will not likely mention the sand fleas, the muffled bickering and the creeping awareness of Islam’s ever encroaching emptiness as the sun sets on the meaningless prayer mat used as an ego fetish.

    • خَليفة says

      Oct 19, 2015 at 4:09 am

      Don’t you mean the sun, which revolves around the earth, is setting into a muddy puddle of water on earth? Bahahahaha

      http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/11/quran-error-does-sun-set-in-muddy.html

  4. Jay Boo says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    Save the Muslim meme.
    They’re killing Muslims’. He was talking about Assad, the Syrian president.

    The liberal media has simplistically so demonized Assad as the singular bad guy so as to not have to report that ISIS is Islam that all the Lefties want to go fight Assad and save Muslims.

    • mortimer says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 11:09 pm

      Libtarded journalists think they can understand political Islam through studying POLITICAL SCIENCE and without putting in the time to read SHARIA LAW, the SIRA, the HADITHS and the KORAN.

      Without reading the source texts of Islam, journalists will be CLUELESS about Islam.

      • Jack says

        Oct 18, 2015 at 11:35 pm

        As I have Mortimer and I have been warning people in America for over 15 years about the grave dangers of this Fascist Ideology in our midst. For almost 14 hundred years Muslims have been committing ISIS like atrocities against innocent men, women and children, yet the liberal fools take the side of this Fascist Ideology. An ideology that cannot and never has coexisted with any form of Democracy.

        • Raja says

          Oct 19, 2015 at 10:51 am

          Jack,

          I guess most everyone on JW would agree with you, including me. Ever since I came across a Muslim proselyte some 23 years ago I have been hyper alert about Islam.They use lies, slander and all the deceptions and arrogance ( they always think they have an upper hand) in their methods. The converts who want to leave Islam are assaulted or even killed depending on where you live. To ensure that a convert’s trap is complete they even arrange for a mate, usually ditched by some other Islamic faithful. This ensures that their flock is ever protected and ever increasing !!!!

          Their propaganda machinery is much sharper than leftists propaganda. Hence the need to be hyper alter about Islam.

      • Peggy says

        Oct 18, 2015 at 11:37 pm

        And they are the ones telling us that Islam is a religion of peace.
        I would love someone to just ask them if they have read the Koran and can say that with authority but nobody has so far.

  5. mortimer says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    Mrs. Phipps said: “‘We just want him to come home. If he’s done something wrong I’d like him to accept the consequences. He’s still young – and at least he’s still alive.’

    • mortimer says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 11:06 pm

      Mrs. Phipps is thinking of the son she knew before he became a monster. Can her son be released from the Islamic DEATH CULT? Only if he is deprogrammed.

      It should be noted that some high-ranking NAZIS were never deprogrammed and admired Hitler until their deaths.

      • ECAW says

        Oct 19, 2015 at 5:55 am

        Mortimer’s mythical deprogramming – deficient in details, as always.

      • Mirren10 says

        Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 am

        You keep pushing this, Mortimer, but not once, that I’ve* seen, do you ever explain how that would work, much less given any examples of where it *has* worked.

        So, unless you can do the above, your ‘deprogramming’ is merely pie in the sky, wishful thinking, and therefore pointless.

        ”It should be noted that some high-ranking NAZIS were never deprogrammed and admired Hitler until their deaths.’

        If you’re referring to ‘denazification’, then you should note it was mostly a failure, due to the sheer numbers involved (amongst other factors). How would you go about ‘deislaming’ 1.5 billion muslims ? Also note, the Allies didn’t make the attempt at denazification, until the Germans had been soundly **defeated**. The same holds true for Japan.

        • Karen says

          Oct 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm

          I believe the only thing that will turn the tide on Islamization is the restoration of the West’s cultural confidence, something that Robert Spencer has talked about many times. This loss of confidence coincided with a renewed Islamic identify which is morphing into supremacism. The more the West self-deprecates, the more Islamic supremacism will grow. It’s just basic human nature to exploit weakness. We were not shy about saying that Western ideals were superior to Nazism. The West will have the courage of its ideals, or it will be absorbed by something stronger.

  6. Jack Diamond says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 11:41 pm

    Hannah’s Got Herpes but Lucas got something much worse, and absolutely fatal.

    The mother had an interesting trajectory with hubby #2–Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan. Some reason
    he chose or was chosen to be in those places? “The Last Crusade” indeed.

    Another “Middle Eastern Studies” success story.

  7. underbed cat says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    Rock music, talent, travel, liberal friends, a islamic culture all around him, given a book which has all answers to fill in the questions and emptiness, where apparently no faith was seen as important. The problems are the cohesiveness of the group he would now belong to which is a powerful pull. The horrors he saw he attributed to Assad. I wonder with all the groups that flowed into Syria if that is what he witnessed. But then this is in a muslim world of Syria and the horror he may be disturbed by is in the doctrine. Some day he will read and understand if he survives.

  8. No Fear says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 2:12 am

    Today I spoke to a woman who said that the Parramatta mosque was not full of extremists and no one at the mosque should be blamed for the shooting of the police employee in Parramatta. I agreed that that not all the people at the mosque are to blame for the shooting. She said that only extremists are to blame.

    I asked her how she would feel if her son became a member of the mosque. Immediately she backed right off with her “Islam is a religion of peace” crap. She looked confused and afraid.

    I suggest that you all Jihadwatchers use that same tactic. Ask anyone who is slightly sympathetic to Islam “how would they feel if their son became a muslim”. It works wonders.

  9. Dhimmiwit says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 3:17 am

    “The white British son….”

    Why even mention the fact that he is white? What has colour or race got to do with Islam? Ben Affleck and his chums are going to start looking silly if we’re not careful….
    On the other hand a lot of ugly ginger types have started following the Paedophile, maybe Ben could make use of that?

  10. خَليفة says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 3:51 am

    An example of the unintended consequences of divorce. On kids.
    Ok, not really.

    Theologically, Catholics can’t divorce, they need to get an annulment.( a moot point )

    This looks like a typical case of some dumbass loser that wanted fame and fortune, but couldn’t make it in an intelligent, civilized world. So he became an uncivilized barbarian and made an evil name for himself instead.

    Famous vs Infamous which one will I be? Which one CAN I be?
    American pop culture is full of examples – Lex Luthor, et alii..

  11. kay says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 5:14 am

    Re: “Mrs Phipps said: ‘Lucas is a target. I’m glad he’s associated with al-Qaeda rather than IS, but obviously I worry….”
    ______________________________
    The mother is worse than the son! Lots of Brits – lots of people really – got killed on 9/11 because of Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Deborah Phipps is TOTALLY OKAY with the attack on the Pentagon and on New York City.

    She also says: “‘We just want him to come home. If he’s done something wrong I’d like him to accept the consequences. He’s still young – and at least he’s still alive.”

    IF he’s done something wrong. IF. Well, the woman is worse than her son. She’s let a criminal psychopath back in the UK where he could do some real damage to society. Al Qaeda is extremely dangerous.
    The only good thing here would be for this orc to kill some Islamic State orcs and then receive a present from the Russians dropped on his head.

    From Wikipedia:
    As Salafist jihadists, they believe that the killing of non-combatants is religiously sanctioned, but they ignore any aspect of religious scripture which might be interpreted as forbidding the murder of non-combatants and internecine fighting.[1][37] Al-Qaeda also opposes what it regards as man-made laws, and wants to replace them with a strict form of sharia law.[38]
    Al-Qaeda is also responsible for instigating sectarian violence among Muslims.[39] Al-Qaeda leaders regard liberal Muslims, Shias, Sufis and other sects as heretics and have attacked their mosques and gatherings.[40] Examples of sectarian attacks include the Yazidi community bombings, the Sadr City bombings, the Ashoura massacre and the April 2007 Baghdad bombings.[41]
    ________________________
    Al Qaeda includes Al Shabaab. Al Qaeda actively supports global jihad against civilians! Their pals slaughtered over one hundred schoolkids in Pakistan this year. They want to kick off a bloody war within India. And Al Qaeda attacked Paris this January. Deborah Phipps is okay with murdering journalists and Jews in Paris.

    Deborah Phipps is totally okay with all that. Check out the extensive Wikipedia article on Al Qaeda to see all the criminal insanity that Deborah Phipps finds most amiable.
    People like this should be shunned altogether. She is a complete traitor too.
    SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME

    • kay says

      Oct 19, 2015 at 5:18 am

      Replace “She’s let” with “She’d let”. One key to the left. Typo.

  12. Lawrence says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 5:57 am

    The fault lies with our entire liberal society and media and universities, including the one this youngster attended. With the lying Islam is a religion of peace mantra. Not telling the truth about Islam is itself evil. Appropriate that is father worked with that dhimmi Jew Steven Spielberg if you think about it.

    • Raja says

      Oct 19, 2015 at 10:59 am

      Lawrence,

      Very true…

  13. Angemon says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 7:34 am

    Mrs Phipps said: ‘Lucas is a target. I’m glad he’s associated with al-Qaeda rather than IS, but obviously I worry.

    Huh, what? Hello? 9/11?

  14. BevC says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 10:47 am

    As a 60 year old Roman Catholic I saw first-hand my faith’s Post-Vatican II dilution and accommodation to the world – continuing now at the current synod on the family. Both nature and the supernatural abhor a vacuum. That which fails to CHALLENGE and INSPIRE these kids will give way to that faith which doe. Many boys and girls actually want to be pushed to embrace a rigorous path. Our kumbaya katholicism lite cannot stand against the strong horse of Islam.

    • Raja says

      Oct 19, 2015 at 11:31 am

      BevC,

      You have surrendered even before war has been declared on you. I met an old lady back in the early 1990’s, who had escaped Genocide from the Turks sounding very much like you.

      I tend to think that people are hopeless because of improper or inadequate knowledge of the truth, how God is in control in spite of Chaos triggered by man’s downfall and so on.

      You are right about people seeking power, barrel of the gun, bombs. killings and so on to seek in any system or so called religion or God. That seems to fascinate the young, more specifically. All legalistic routes to God are useless and meaningless. Some have played into the hands of devil in the process.

      Most of the time the Church’s response to evils specifically originating from “religion” is found pathetically wanting. Man doesn’t manage anything properly from mother earth to counter terrorism.

      May you find hope and faith in bible , the true word of God.

      If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” John 8:32 & 33

      • BevC says

        Oct 20, 2015 at 10:51 am

        I am hardly without hope, Raja. And I know Him who is My Hope and the Way and the Truth. However, what I was trying to say is that along with many Christian denominations, my Catholic Church has been engaged for 45+ years watering down the Gospel Truth to the Gospel of “nice”!
        That WILL NOT cut it. After years in catechism or Sunday schools we Christians of various denominations are sending our children out unarmed, at least as far as the Armor of God goes.
        They then cast around like this young man, the child of broken vows, looking for a rock not the shifting sand his parents and society gave him.

  15. Al says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    Gee, another ginger converting to Islam; there’s a surprise.

    Redheads, don’t let your babies grow up to be Muslims.

  16. Cindy says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    I cannot understand for the life of me why a person growing up with just about everything would give it up and go to a desert and fight with people who are vile and full of hate. I just don’t get it. It is the power of evil. I praise GOD I don’t know that kind of hate. I pray that God Almighty comes and fix the hearts of these people or take them out so that they can stop terrorizing the world. We need to go to our Lord on our knees and ask Him to set our allies free and to keep us from the dangers of these kind of people.

    • Peter1589 says

      Oct 20, 2015 at 5:51 pm

      When you go to the Lord, where exactly do you find Him? Is there an address you can provide?

      • Pete1589 says

        Oct 22, 2015 at 12:33 am

        Okay, since you apparently don’t have an address, allow me to provide you one. Just go to any local Catholic Church, see if you can enter it, although since the 60’s they’ve been locked up tight to avoid malicious destruction of the worlds oldest and most despised Institution, which, by the way, can’t be killed as Christ promised it so, and once there, lay prostrate before the Blessed Sacrament in which Christ Truly Present resides, and beg Him to assess the state of your soul. Then get back to me about your results.

  17. Kara May says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    Let us pray that he doesn’t start decapitating innocent human beings! The Islam Cult of Death is a travesty.

  18. Carlos Danger says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    I hope he leaves his bones to bleach in the Syrian Desert.

  19. piggs says

    Oct 19, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    Hopefully, soon Putin will show him the way to his virgins.

  20. billybob says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 12:34 am

    stay where your at and don’t come back

  21. Karen says

    Oct 20, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    “He had a beard and the robes, it was quite obvious. …… We didn’t even really discuss it.”

    That might be the problem. You would think that something as momentous as religious conversion would spark some questions or discussion between parent and child. Unless the parents believe that theology matters not. Reminds me of the reaction that John Walker’s parents had to his conversion; hands off, unconcerned, desiring him to make his own decisions on a belief system, but unfortunately, he chose badly. The cruel irony; when a parent does not ‘impose’ a belief system on the child while young, the world might step in and fill the gap. (I say this will some compassion for the Kinneys and Walkers.)

    • kay says

      Oct 21, 2015 at 12:05 am

      Re: “I say this will some compassion for the Kinneys and Walkers.”
      ________________________

      It’s not about “compassion” or “lovingkindness.” Those are about helping people. They are not feelings per se. The feelings are more on the level of motivation. Compassion and lovingkindness are meditation in action, ways of extending oneself towards others.

      It’s not about this or that kind of theology either. There are many and diverse kinds. That’s not the point. Rather, it’s all about philosophy. The present concern has to do with the Law of Karma. Otherwise, basic Aristotle would work.

      Oh man, I have all these books in stacks here and I can’t find my Aristotle. It’s gotta be around here somewhere. Oh yeah, now I remember:
      “What is most noble is that which is most just.” Whew! At least I’m not senile.

      Well, over in India they always useta say
      “Ahimsa Paramo Dharma”.
      Meaning, Nonviolence Is The Highest Law.

      “I was taught to love the Law, the poetry of its fairness, the beauty of its intent. But most of all, I was taught to use my life to help others…”

      Now where did my Aristotle go off to? Anyway, if you want compassion and suchlike, there’s the Dalai Lama book, which I will quote now.

      “The desperate state of our world calls us to action. Each of us has a responsibility to try to help at the deeper level of our common humanity…
      “Anger diminishes our power to distinguish right from wrong, and this ability is one of the highest human attributes. If it is lost, we are lost.
      On those occasions when you feel most hopeless, you must make a powerful effort.
      We must persist in the face of failure.
      For all people in every endeavor, a healthy compassionate motivation is the foundation of spiritual growth.”
      — the Dalai Lama, “How to Practice: The Way to a Meaningful Life”

      Real compassion requires a more global perspective, and planetary stewardship.
      Two years back I found this video. It helps me stay in touch with the bigger picture.
      Casket Seal Dharani – Wang Xiaolu 宝箧印陀罗尼 – 夏瓦曲呷(汪小璐) / 八吉祥乐团 (李志辉作曲)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBoPdSTc9ow May All Benefit!

      • Karen says

        Nov 10, 2015 at 10:35 pm

        Kay, I’m always humbled by the philosophical prowess of the commentators at JW. I recently realized how sadly lacking I am in this area, with a grand total of 1 class in this area hundreds of years ago. I went a science route, thinking that all things that mattered could be derived mathematically. How wrong I was, and now find that effective argument is impossible without some basis in philosophy! Ah well, we keep learning….. 🙂

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