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Hungary PM: “Islam was never part of Europe. It’s the rulebook of another world.”

Oct 17, 2015 12:29 pm By Robert Spencer

Islam was never part of Europe, except as an invader bent on conquering and subjugating the native peoples. But now it is a different story, courtesy the weakness, fecklessness, and multiculturalist internationalism of European leaders. If trends continue, by the end of this century Islam will be Europe’s primary identifying characteristic.

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“Islam was never part of Europe, says Hungary PM,” AP, October 17, 2015:

Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban defended his hardline stance against refugees,the vast majority of whom are Muslim, saying in an interview published that Islam “has never been part of Europe”.

Speaking to Germany’s Focus news weekly about the record migrant influx, he said “the language of the European elite is ideological and dogmatic”.

“Islam has never been part of Europe,it came to us,” Orban told Focus in an interview to be published in full Saturday. He conceded that Germany’s Turkish migrants, who arrived in their tens of thousands from the 1960s for work,now “belong to German history and therefore Europe’s too”.

“But spiritually, Islam was never part of Europe.It’s the rulebook of another world,” said Orban.

He also hit out at France and Germany for refusing to countenance “any doubts” over a multicultural society.

“We in Hungary decide what we want or don’t want. We don’t want that,” he said.

Almost 600,000 people have arrived in Europe so far this year, with many of them heading for Germany and Sweden.

Orban asserted that most asylum seekers arriving in Europe are actually economic migrants. “Not everyone is entitled to a life in Germany or a life in Hungary.That’s only for those who have worked for it,” he said.

In the face of a historic surge in migrant arrivals, Hungary in September sealed its border with Serbia. Yesterday,it announced it had also completed a fence along the Croatian border.

Hungary’s use of fences and its treatment of migrants — including serious clashes on September 16 between police and migrants — has been sharply criticised, including by United Nations chief Ban Ki-moon.

Which means that Hungary’s use of fences and its treatment of migrants is entirely proper and correct.

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  1. Jay Boo says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    Germany’s politicians promised that Germany’s first big wave of Turkish migrants —
    (who arrived in their tens of thousands from the 1960s) would be “guest workers” and only be allowed to stay for — TWO YEARS.

    Take a guess what happened (Just before the TWO YEAR deadline).

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 12:52 pm

      from Spiegel Online International
      http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/turkish-immigration-to-germany-a-sorry-history-of-self-deception-and-wasted-opportunities-a-716067.html

      ” …German companies were mainly interested in semi-skilled or unskilled laborers for poorly paid, unpopular jobs on assembly lines and in shift work. Poor, remote regions of Turkey were the preferred recruitment areas. At the time, no one in Germany cared much about the fact that many of the new arrivals could hardly read or write, making it difficult for them to participate in German society. The guest workers were expected to live together in newly built dormitories near the factories where they worked, and return to their native countries after working for a few years.
      Delaying the Return
      But none of this was effectively regulated. A “rotation clause” intended to limit a foreign worker’s initial stay in Germany to two years was removed from the German-Turkish treaty in 1964, partly as a result of pressure from German industry, which was loath to pay the costs of constantly training new workers. Besides, the Turkish immigrants had proven to be reliable workers who made fewer demands than their German counterparts but were no less productive, according to a 1966 report by the Confederation of German Employers’ Associations (BDA).
      Many Turks repeatedly delayed returning home. The economic and political situation was uncertain in Turkey, a country plagued by a series of military coups. …”

    • nicu says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 1:12 pm

      Germany was and still is no sovereign country ! USA brought Turks to us for the airbase in Turkey – we had Portuguese , Italian and Yogoslavian workers already … nobody wanted Turks !

    • particolor says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 4:43 am

      Take a Page out of Hungary’s book !!
      Take a Page out of Hungary’s book !!!

    • Peggy says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 8:04 pm

      It was the same way in Australia. Turkish migrants were only allowed two years in Australia and were supposed to go back.
      They are still here.
      This huge influx of Muslims into Europe is on purpose. This was the goal all along. I have been saying it for quite some time now and it’s becoming more and more obvious.
      The best way to enslave the masses is by Islam because it’s self policing. Even Communism can’t rule over people like Islam can.
      The Hungarian government is right. Keep Islam out of Europe or Europe will be sorry.

  2. Michael Copeland says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Viktor Orban, trained in law, is correct in emphasizing that economic migrants are NOT refugees. They are not owed asylum, and should take their place in the lawful migration queue. Those who break the law by forcing their way past fences are criminals.
    His is a lone voice of sanity in the EU madhouse.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      Mr. Cameron, Islam is Hostile.
      http://www.libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6923-mr-cameron-islam-is-hostile

    • Ernie says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 6:08 am

      Dear Michael , how well said ! I’ve thanked Mr. Orban and the Hungarian People for their efforts to defend our beloved Europe against a disaster in the make , by sending an e-mail to the Hungarian ambassy . They appreciated the support ! Maybe a good idea to show our appreciation for the Hungarian approach , by sending them more e-mails , thank you !

      • Sue says

        Oct 18, 2015 at 5:16 pm

        It makes me proudly to to be half Hungarian, keep going Mr. Orban

  3. somehistory says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    Betting that the people of Hungary are glad he knows his history and can see with his eyes that islam is a beast from satan. No, he didn’t say that…or anything in this article about satan’s beast, but since it is a beast of satan, and since he does see clearly his nation is better off without the *refugees*…

    Germany is overrun. After reading some of the articles on Ms. Geller’s site, one can feel sick over what the citizens there…who have no control over the situation…are experiencing. Children being made to clean up after the moslimes as “schoolwork” and citizens of small towns being told they can “leave” if they don’t like having moslimes coming in by the thousands.

    This man is doing his country a big favor by refusing to listen to the moon guy or merkel.

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 12:57 pm

      Some good news. It is not just Muslims that the German elite were caught lying about. The major scandal at Germany’s largest automaker Volkswagen should cool the German economy somewhat.

    • fidobite says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 2:22 pm

      Yes, Orban seems one of the few euro leaders actually concerned about the long-term integrity of his nation. It seems quite obvious that merkel and other leaders are in bed with major industrialists much more concerned with acquiring cheap labor for their countries whose native birthrates have dropped precipitously leaving them with a severe low end labor shortage. Profit and labor above culture, integrity and social stability.

  4. Enragedsince1999 says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 12:54 pm

    Orban is a courageous free-speaking leader, a striking contrast to the slave-nation of Bulgaria, to the UK, Norwegian, Swedish, Dutch, French and other European so-called “leaders” totally subservient to both the US and the Muslims.
    This makes this news all the more astonishing. Miracles do happen indeed ! This is just in: despite all the non-stop lies by the obscene CNN, NYT, Newsweek, Time Magazine, Economist and other Western so-called “News” organizations, the truth miraculously filters in to regular folks in the US and even UK ! The latest poll by Daily Express shows TWO-THIRDS of Britons (BRITONS !) strongly supporting and praising Russia’s flawless air campaign against the jihadis in Syria ! And a poll by Fox TV shows 70 % of Americans saying the US government is clueless about the gravity of jihad threat to the nation, while giving top marks to Russia’s military action ! This shows the difference between the American people and the totally morally degenerate sociopaths of the government, media and “cultural” elites of the United States of America.

    Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

    • خَليفة says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 3:00 pm

      Orban will save Hungary the fate destined for Germany, UK et al.. Perhaps the eigen flaw is with the socialist mentality, manifesting in failing Europe economies.

      Islam is the “Big bad wolf”. Is Germany the Little Pig with a brick house or the Stick house?

      ( the wolf destroys and eats, but offers nothing more to the culture of the “pigs” )

    • Sile Draper says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 5:53 pm

      There in UK and Europe.otally agree and I’m sure most Britons would too. We are sadly let down and betrayed by our politicians

      • Sile Draper says

        Oct 18, 2015 at 5:56 pm

        There in UK and Europe.otally agree and I’m sure most Britons would too. We are sadly let down and betrayed by our politicians
        oops my keyboard is rubbish. It should sahe ‘Totally agree..and I’m sure most Britons would too. Here in the UK and Europe we are sadly let down etc’

  5. Michael Copeland says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    “All I have to do is stay here one year and Germany will pay for my entire family to come over”,
    Migrant in Germany http://www.barenakedislam.com/

    Once they have citizenship they all have freedom of travel to UK, Sweden, etc. and draw benefit.

  6. Michael Copeland says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    Merkel/Hollande/Cameron state an ASSERTION: “Islam is part of Europe.”
    Orban states a FACT: “Islam is not part of Europe”.

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 1:36 pm

      I remember visiting a small town in Germany during December many years ago and was impressed by the way the town was decorated with joyous Christmas decorations that were modest and reverential in contrast to the garish secular store displays often seen in the US.

      • fidobite says

        Oct 17, 2015 at 2:27 pm

        And your point is?

        • Jay Boo says

          Oct 17, 2015 at 2:42 pm

          Did you ignore the P.S. below

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 1:41 pm

      P.S.
      I wonder how Islam will tarnish Christmas displays.
      Will Muslims say ok to the Christmas tree and Santa while forbidding the mention of Jesus as Lord and Savior.

      • fidobite says

        Oct 17, 2015 at 2:28 pm

        No.

        • Jay Boo says

          Oct 17, 2015 at 2:45 pm

          What does fidobite have to say other than be contrary?
          Maybe, you could be more specific in your reply.

    • Avenir says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 1:51 pm

      Be lazy loose with your faith. Make money your lover. Be liberal. Get conquered and slaughtered. Go to Hell.

  7. el cid says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    This man is the clearest thinking, most courageous leader in Europe.

    Will the politicians and media do to the Hungarians what they did to the Serbs?

    They are already calling him ‘right wing’.

    Hungary has never recovered fully from the rape of their land and people by Islam.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 1:30 pm

      Here is a specimen of press treatment: Louise Ridley for Huffington Post on Britain First:
      “The far-right anti-Islam … extreme group … pseudo-political party”.
      All that is missing is “controversial”.
      She is incorrect: Britain First is a registered political party.

    • underebed cat says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 2:29 pm

      Hungarys’ Prime Ministor Viktor Orban is a displaying an objective analysis of Islam and finding it not compatible with Europe. Thanks JW for some very good news that a leader in Europe is speaking out and clarifying and supporting what should have been understood by all nations in the western world from history and tragedies of past and present. They have a right to protect themselves from a insurgency attempt by the mass of refugees at their border. That the young male refugees arriving have an unspoken agenda to islamize Hungary from a islamic obligation to migrate (hidjra) to the west under the guise of refugee. It’s an islamic army that waits, until they gain enough population to cause extreme economic and life threatening distress.

      Unlike the U.S. that voted in the ideology and will soom try to make it criminal to speak about these realities. Shocking to Obama as that may be…

      • Sile Draper says

        Oct 18, 2015 at 5:52 pm

        well said!

  8. Thomas Hennigan says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    This immigration crisis is going to contribute greatly to the dumbing down of Europe as muslims on average have an IQ of 82-84. How many Nobel Prizes for physics have muslims achieved? None. And Jews? Muslims are 1,600 million and Jews 20 million. Besides, the practice of inbreeding is one of the main contributing factors in this “dumbing down”, as half the muslim population is the result of inbreeding. Not to mention the upsurge of rate and other crimes in places like Sweeden and Denmark, the UK and others.
    There may be a positive side to this migrant crisis in Europe, as the ordinary folk may well rise up and send the dhimmi political elite packing and elect the likes of Marie Le Pen to govern their countries and fix this problem.

  9. celticwarriorcanada says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    So great to see a European politician who actually stayed awake during History Class and obviously sees its Usefulness ! President Obama could learn from Prime Minister Orbans example ! But he is to proud for that and besides; he prefers the Erodogan twisted ottoman islamic version of history !

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 1:48 pm

      Unlike President Obama, this guy actually deserves to get a Peace Prize.

    • underbed cat says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 2:41 pm

      Hmmm wonder if Cameron, Merkel and the rest of Europe leaders are taking out their history books. I hope the are listening, and they should remove themselves from the presence of the influence of the European muslim brotherhood insurgency and quick. They have been “played” in the most basic of terms, decieved brilliantly trying to be humanitarian.

      Now if the Republican Party would just do some homework. Ben Carson, is so correct, sharia law is incompatible with our Constitution and it will be Obama’s legacy to try to change it. In my opinion..

      • underbed cat says

        Oct 18, 2015 at 2:44 pm

        Agree totally with you Celtic Warrior Canada !

    • Avenger says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 10:53 pm

      I’m sorry but Obama has nothing to learn from Prime Minister Orban. As a vile Sunni Muslim masquerading as a Christian, our rat brained POTUS and Merkel look at Orban of Hungary as a small road block that they will soon annihilate by economic quarantine or sanctions. I only hope that Merkel will soon be run out of office and jailed. In next year elections Obama has to be replaced as president by Ted Cruz, D Trump or Ben Carson.
      Hillary Clinton has her head imbedded so far up the asshole of King Salman of Saudi Arabia that for every million dollars they’d transfer to her private bank accounts it would equate to billions of tax payers dollars spent to further Saudi initiatives in the US and the Middle East.
      Stay the course Hungary.

  10. DAN CELLI says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    Yes, Islam is from another world. The people from Hungry must be happy knowing that evil is being kept away from their door. Be nice to YOUR people,don’t gamble with their lives !

  11. Angemon says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 3:54 pm

    “Islam was never part of Europe, says Hungary PM,”

    What can I say? The man’s right.

  12. keith says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    … Euro leaders must be ashamed of their 1000-year cultures seeing as how hard they are trying to dismantle them for a predatory ideology… the common people seem to have little say, and yet the people are the ones who will be forced to deal with this, not the elites in their expensive neighborhoods…

    • mortimer says

      Oct 17, 2015 at 10:27 pm

      keith wrote: “predatory ideology”

      It is.

  13. mortimer says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    Robert Spencer wrote: “Islam was never part of Europe, except as an invader bent on conquering and subjugating the native peoples.”

    Islam is not compatible with Western values of equality, liberty and fraternity.

    A kafir is never equal to a Muslim.

  14. mortimer says

    Oct 17, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    Hungary’s brilliant Prime Minister Viktor Orban has proved how CLUELESS most European leaders are about Islam.

  15. Alpo Yksikivi says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 4:47 am

    PM Viktor Orbán is a Hero.

    Here in Finland our situation (per capita) is about the same as in Germany (our population is just 5.5M and we have now something like 30000 registered invaders and the official questimate is a 10000 unregistered invaders but the correct number must be way way larger since the streets and shopping malls are full of them.

    We have seen an incredible surge in rape cases as well as in other crimes. The riot inside the reception camps just as they do in Germany. Our main-stream media is quiet (or made to be quiet), the police does not report incidences. This is just unbelievable.

    Here are some of the later artworks, I believe the artist is a Finn. He/She stays under cover as it is well known that this kind of artwork will initialize here a manhunt that involves over 100 policemen:

    http://static.mvlehti.net/uploads/2015/10/11902324_10153682340729095_1763855757145638721_n.jpg

    http://static.mvlehti.net/uploads/2015/10/Xfwzsl1445091886.jpg

    • Sile Draper says

      Oct 18, 2015 at 6:00 pm

      we rely on you to tell us what is really happening. Thank you.

  16. DAN CELLI says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 5:07 am

    Why would these so-called refugee’s go to Europe and the U.S. instead of other Muslim countries where their culture is the same ? Western freedom of thought/speech is a misfit for them. If you insult their God they murder you. Obama say’s Islam is a religion of peace. The Supreme religious leader agree’s with the “Death to America!!!”crowd . When you have Muslim Cleric’s wanting us dead,what do you think is going to happen when these evil people set foot on your shore? Do you think France run’s every part of their Country like they did year’s ago ? Why would leader’s of these countries think of THEM instead of their Citizen’s first ? These people for the most part hate freedom and you !!! The terrorist that killed Klinghoffer by dumping him and his wheelchair into the sea,said,”Someday everybody will be Muslim”. Remember at the Rome airport in the early 80’s where people were machine gunned to death ? One and one is 2 and it alway’s will be !!! The fact’s are etched in stone.

  17. Joaquin Veyron says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 5:28 am

    Great!! I cannot even listen to this idiotic woman called Angela Merkel anymore who for some unknown reaosns we Germans voted into office.

    I would voluntarily would leave Germany into the hands of Victor Orbán. He obviously still is right in his mind. Germany and German politician is a fatal combination as it seams. Often leads to destruction of Germany and Europe.

    Please Mr. Orbán come to Germany and save us from the idiots that are in power here!!!

    • Sue says

      Oct 19, 2015 at 12:15 am

      I think Mr orban should come to Britain first it should be easier for him to educate a dimwitted prime minister like Cameron before heading to Germany to tackle a power crazy Merkel with hormones.

      • sile Draper says

        Oct 19, 2015 at 11:45 am

        YES! love it!

  18. Islam is not a part of anywhere says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 7:19 am

    This Hungarian PM is correct. But Islam isn’t a religion of Europe and it also isn’t a religion for the Middle East. It is a religion just for camel herders from Saudi Arabia. Islam is not a natural fit for any country – not for Turkey, not for Egypt – not for anywhere. It has always been imposed on people via conquest. Turkey shouldn’t be muslim- It should be Christian. So too Egypt. It once had a majority Christian population – now it is a hovel waiting for more misery to impose upon more misery – all due to Islam and its doctrine of evil.

  19. Truth Seeker says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 11:52 am

    His approach is Realistic and one has to appreciate him.

  20. mike says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    Germany removed the jews and any Christians who tried to help them and much of Europe helped. germany and Europe are now replacing that population with muslims doesn’t look like a good idea,but who im I, a stupid American Christian to judge the smart people who gave oboma a pease prize.

  21. Mark A says

    Oct 18, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    Mr. Orban is a voice of sanity in a Europe whose leadership is sadly lacking in that regard. I hope he continues to stand firm in this.

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