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India: Muslim clerics say Islamic State “not associated with Islam,” Muhammad “spread the message of peace”

Oct 6, 2015 11:45 am By Robert Spencer

Now if only they can convince the many Muslims streaming into the Islamic State from all over the world, believing that it is associated with Islam and embodies the message of Muhammad, the prophet who ordered the murder of his critics, participated in battles and exhorted others to do so, and told his followers that the supreme god of the universe wanted them to dedicate their lives to killing or subjugating their fellow creatures.

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“‘IS not associated with Islam,’” by Imran Gowhar, The Hindu, October 5, 2015:

It is not only sermons against the IS, but heads of mosques have been requested to ensure that speeches at religious gatherings are in tune with the teachings of the Koran and the Hadith.

A WhatsApp group, comprising moulvis and clergies of nearly 150 mosques in the city, has been formed to disseminate information to be imparted to the youth.

The letter to the heads of mosques by Mohammed Maqsood Imran, the Imam of Jamia Masjid in the city, warns that the IS and other radical organisations are luring Muslim youth with extremist ideologies that are not associated with Islam. The community will have to pay a price if focus is not on its youth, the letter states.

“Our holy Prophet Mohammed was sent to this world to spread the message of peace and also the Caliph-e-Rashadeen (Hazarath Abu Bakr, Umar, Usman and Ali) carried forward the teachings of the Koran and Prophet Mohammed. Even during the war, Prophet Mohammed had ordered his fellowmen not to harm children, women, aged and unarmed men. Then how can bombing and killing of innocent people be justified?” the letter says….

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  1. ich says

    Oct 6, 2015 at 11:56 am

    I feel like I am taking crazy pills !!

    Are they thick ?

    Its common knowledge Muhammed was a tyrant.

    • Angemon says

      Oct 6, 2015 at 1:37 pm

      “Its common knowledge”

      For us, perhaps. For their target audience? I doubt it, hence why they can create a semblance of truth.

      • mahghan says

        Oct 6, 2015 at 5:21 pm

        It should be noted the vast majority of Muslims are either illiterate or near-illiterate. The vast majority just recite the Qur’an stupidly without understanding the Arabic language. The vast majority just wait to hear what their Imams say on Fridays in the mosque.

        Google the name Mona Walter, Somali refugee in Sweden to understand the doctrinal ignorance of the vast majority of Muslims.

    • Huck Folder says

      Oct 6, 2015 at 8:32 pm

      “Even during the war,…”

      So, the RoP™ was at WAR?
      They didn’t conquer all with
      their superior charm?

      Cognitive dissonance?

      Anyone?

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 6, 2015 at 10:08 pm

        Good catch, Huck.

    • jayell says

      Oct 7, 2015 at 11:26 am

      Well, they’re making it up as they go along, like some third-rate script-writers of a clapped-out middle-eastern soap opera trying to edit the script and re-write the storyline for the export market so that more TV stations around the civilised world will buy it for their ‘discerning audiences’. Trouble is, these ‘audiences’ around the world are a bit more ‘discerning’ than their own at home, they know jolly well what sort of character the ‘hero’ is supposed to be and how the storylines are really supposed to go, and all this re-editing and re-hashing is starting to look somewhat unconvincing if not just plain corny. Perhaps when the disapproval starts showing up a bit more in the proverbial ‘ratings’, we in the ‘civilised West’ will get a bit less of this rubbish rammed down our throats.

  2. Kessler says

    Oct 6, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    The statement that islam equals peace will always baffle me. How can millions of muslims and Western non-muslims buy into this lie when every single muslim majority country is persecuting it’s religious minorities/refusing them equal rights, punishing apostates and blasphemers and opposing the principals of sexual/gender/religious equality?
    It may be “peaceful” once it has enforced complete supremacy where non-muslims are subdued/accepting dhimmi status, and nobody is tempting to use free speech/freedom to leave Islam.
    That is a wildly twisted understanding of what makes a religion peaceful, but it seems to work. Every Western leader is preaching this narrative

    • خَليفة says

      Oct 6, 2015 at 2:31 pm

      Muslims have a dualistic sense of reality – two opposing ideas can both be true – e.g. Islam is peace and jihad ( kill the kuffar where ever you find them ) And muslims have a pack/hive mentality and long term communal plans to take over the world bit by bit. ( like zombies or the Borg )

      Western non Muslims simply are too naïve, too disconnected from current events, too self absorbed to fully comprehend that not everyone Thinks like them., AND have short term, indivalistic goals – ( get laid, get a bigger tv, get that new iPhone, etc. ) Most people don’t want to believe than an evil can exist outside of Hollywood – and will use all types of mental machinations to convince themselves that all is ok. Like a wife who knows her husband is cheating, but lacks the desire to do anything until she catches her husband in the act; only then will she feel compelled to take action.

      • Huck Folder says

        Oct 6, 2015 at 8:33 pm

        mozomborg?

    • mahghan says

      Oct 6, 2015 at 5:44 pm

      But they never did this with Communism or Nazism. There were no desperate attempts to find “moderate Communists” or “Moderate Nazis”. So the puzzle is “why” in the case of Islam?

      Many years ago German author, Oswald Spengler wrote a text describing the meaning of civilization. He examined the structures of Western civilization and came to the conclusion that it was in decline mainly because of the pessimism that was engendered in Europe post-WW II. Despite the economic success o post WW II Europe there is still that underlying pessimism and angst that is not assuaged by phony gestures of “good will” to Islam and Muslim terrorism.

      The noticeable truth is that Europe seems uncomfortable with itself and wants to efface itself in a sea of “multiculturalism”. One case in point is the very irrational even clinically problematic behavior of Merkel, the German Chancellor. The reason is that Europe just does not see itself as having any meaning–hence the drive to self-destruction.

      Sometimes we are puzzled when we read about young persons committing suicide after “bullying” or very successful persons dying from drug overdoses of committing suicide. We wonder why. It all goes back to the concept of the “personality”. Cultures have personalities too and their sense of meaning and purpose dies then they decline and die too. Spengler may be correct but not in the sense he wrote.

      • Mirren10 says

        Oct 7, 2015 at 8:28 am

        ”But they never did this with Communism or Nazism. There were no desperate attempts to find “moderate Communists” or “Moderate Nazis”. So the puzzle is “why” in the case of Islam?”

        Because Nazism and Communism are *political*, whereas islam is perceived as a *religion*. (The fact that it is a religion with political and ideological components is ignored.)

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 6, 2015 at 10:15 pm

      Kessler wrote:

      It may be “peaceful” once it has enforced complete supremacy where non-muslims are subdued/accepting dhimmi status, and nobody is tempting to use free speech/freedom to leave Islam.
      …………………………

      And, of course, even this is not the case, Kessler–the most Islamic societies, which are almost 100% Muslim, such as Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia–are some of the bloodiest places on earth.

  3. Truth Seeker says

    Oct 6, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    Greatest Taqiyaah, to Befool people Muhammad taught Peace. In fact the Human Sacrifices are for the Reward of Janaah.

  4. Raja says

    Oct 6, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    The problem with Islam is that its abject evil force is directly proportionate to the size of the Muslim population coupled with political and economic exigency.

    You have all kinds of Jihad including “peaceful’ ones depending on where you live. They are lot more careful in India, China, Myanmar, Thailand as they are not in majority.

    Tourism gives 12.5% of GDP in Malaysia and there Jihadists sing a different song towing the position of the state. SO MUCH for a allah-given “religion” from “heaven”. Absolute trash !!!!! Fraud on human race !!!!!

    • خَليفة says

      Oct 6, 2015 at 2:49 pm

      Agreed.

  5. pdxnag says

    Oct 6, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Did he simultaneously declare himself illiterate?

    Does this mean that he would chose apostasy once he learns to read and discovers the horrors found in genuine Islam?

  6. DeMolay says

    Oct 6, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    These statements are meaningless and do nothing to address the issue that tens of thousands DO believe it is all about Islam (and many millions more in silent support), which is the whole point. It gives soundbites to the left to quote but offers no solution or practical steps to reverse the situation.
    Good for the sheep, transparent for those with a brain.

  7. R Cole says

    Oct 6, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    So Muhammad spread his message of peace ~ with a sword??

    • Westman says

      Oct 6, 2015 at 2:23 pm

      R Cole, you took the words right out of my keyboard. Perhaps this is where the illogical reasoning process of Islam begins. In Orwell’s 1984 society it was necessary to use “doublethink” to retain the fiction of consistency. The notion of a Peaceful Sword is doublethink. So is naming a nuclear ICBM the Peacekeeper.

      Pumping a child’s head full of the Quran with memorization and punishment for any deviation would force the child’s mind to hold simultaneous conflicting beliefs as doctrine.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 6, 2015 at 10:25 pm

        Westman, Muslims *are* quite capable of cognitive dissonance. The lack of respect for reason in this creed explains this.

        But then there is also the phenomenon of Taqiyya and Muda’rat–it is far more likely that these Muslim clerics are lying to the “filthy Infidel” than that they genuinely believe that Islam has a “message of peace”.

  8. Jaladhi says

    Oct 6, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    What a lying SOB. He wants to convince us that Islam came to India peacefully like Buddhism was spread. Oh those poor 80 million Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, and others were were slaughtered so peacefully that they didn’t know what hit them.

    A lot of revisionist history has been written in India in last 50 years by delusional Hindus themselves who propagate this lie. But this one takes the cake! The Indian government is complicit in promoting this lie!!

  9. Dave J says

    Oct 6, 2015 at 10:43 pm

    Yes, once all the Infidels are dead there will be a great Islamic Peace.

    But I doubt it – look at all the schisms and deadly infighting in Islam today.

    Its all a grand Satanic deception, including the Muslims themselves.

    The whole thing is a criminal brain virus.

  10. dlbrand says

    Oct 7, 2015 at 2:20 am

    “ ‘Even during the war, Prophet Mohammed had ordered his fellowmen not to harm children, women, aged and unarmed men. Then how can bombing and killing of innocent people be justified?’ the letter says….”

    Answer: Because, as, Sir, if you know Islam, you know; hadith, sira, therefore Tafsir provide; as IS scholars, scribes, soldiers and patrons know; though your “prophet” ordered the above prohibitions; when it suited him and his desire to advance his “religion,” he also authorized your above stated “prohibited” acts, called for them, and even praised those who did the acts.

    That’s why, Sir, in brief, your young, well read on your “prophet,” in IS see him and his venerated to-be-emulated companions. And therefore, thereto flock.

  11. kay says

    Oct 7, 2015 at 10:10 am

    http://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

    Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.”

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/chi6.htm

    A Hundred Thousand Hindus slaughtered in One Day
    . . .When this order became known to the ghAzis of Islam, they drew their swords and put their prisoners to death. 100,000 infidels, impious idolaters, were on that day slain. Maulana Nasiru-d-din Umar, a counsellor and man of learning, who, in all his life, had never killed a sparrow, now, in execution of my order, slew with his sword fifteen idolatrous Hindus,69 who were his captives

    —- Sikh women Martyrs of Punjab (1752) —–
    https://www.facebook.com/SikhMartyrsHistory/posts/1485847231630325:0

    http://www.historyofjihad.org/india.html

    http://www.hudson.org/research/11167-prophecy-the-jihad-in-the-indian-subcontinent

    http://hinduexistence.org/category/jihad-in-india/

    ISI and ISIS are jointly advancing a War against India. We must give a hardest reply.
    http://hinduexistence.org/2015/09/28/isi-and-isis-are-jointly-advancing-a-war-against-india-we-must-give-a-hardest-reply/

    http://hinduexistence.org/anti-jihad/

    http://hinduexistence.org/2015/09/01/isis-is-rapidly-spreading-in-the-social-media-with-a-message-to-kill-all-hindus-in-india/

    “War” – A Minecraft Parody song of “Burn” By Ellie Goulding

  12. Jerry says

    Oct 7, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    Islam, Mohammad, the Qur’an and the Hadith are the perversion of Islam,
    because Islam is inherently and eternally perverted.

    And poor Gabriel (or Jibril as he is known in Arabic) gets framed up for
    revealing the fake religion as though it is the word of Allah, when,
    ostensibly they are supposed to be against idol worship, yet they
    prostrate in prayer five times a day in the direction of their stone
    idol in the Kaaba.

  13. John Scott says

    Oct 8, 2015 at 1:16 am

    Hmm, see this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare

    To my fellow readers & writers, I present the theory that Muhammad was a master in the Art of Psychological Warfare.

    What do you think about this? I am very interested in reading your replies.

    Thank you,
    John of Canada

  14. Louise from Canada says

    Oct 8, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    “Our holy Prophet Mohammed was sent to this world to spread the message of peace…” Ha! ha! ha! ha! Ha! ha! ha! ha!

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