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Indonesia: Muslim mobs attack churches, one dead, four wounded

Oct 14, 2015 4:24 pm By Robert Spencer

Shhh! Do not speak of this! Remember: “Talk about extreme, militant Islamists and the atrocities that they have perpetrated globally might undercut the positive achievements that we Catholics have attained in our inter-religious dialogue with devout Muslims and possibly generate suspicion and even fear of people who practice piously the religion of Islam.” — Bishop Robert McManus of Worcester, Massachusetts

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“Aceh, Islamists attack churches: one dead and four wounded,” by Mathias Hariyadi, Asia News, October 14, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

Jakarta (AsiaNews) – One person was killed, four were wounded and a church burned down in sectarian clashes yesterday in the district of Singkil, Aceh province, western Indonesia, the most “Islamic” of the world’s most populous Muslim nation and dubbed “The door to Mecca.”

Local witnesses report that hundreds of Muslims attacked a first place of Christian worship because “illegal” (without the required building permit), setting it on fire. Later, the crowd moved on to a second church, resulting in violent clashes that killed one person and injured several others.

A few weeks ago there was an increase of tension in Aceh, in the context of increasing pressure from local Islamic fundamentalist fringe. Last week a group of protesters held a demonstration demanding the demolition of what they call “unlicensed churches”.

In response, the local government consented to demolishing but delayed “too long” causing resentment among extremist movements. There are at least 10 Christians places of worship considered “irregular” because they do not have the infamous IMB (Izin Mendirikan Bangunan, the construction permit); the beginning of the demolition was scheduled for October 19 and would end in two weeks. The Churches that have been spared – 14 in all – have been given six months to regularize their position.

Husein Hamidi, chief of police in Aceh, reports that “after burning the church, the crowd – made up mostly of members of the Muslim Youth Forum – tried to attack another but ran into opposition from Christians.” Following clashes between extremists and the villagers of Dangguran (sub-district of Gunung Meriah), adds the official, “a man was killed when he was shot in the head” and four others were wounded.

According to sources, the police made several arrests, but there is currently no official confirmation; Meanwhile calm has returned to the district – a Christian enclave in an overwhelmingly Muslim majority nation – although tension could return in the coming days 10 other “illegal churches” will be demolished. Some Christian families have already fled, fearing an escalation of violence….

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  1. Jeremiah says

    Oct 14, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    Thank heaven for moderate secular Muslim countries like Indonesia and Turkey. Imagine what could have happened?

    I have a friend in Malang, Indonesia, who is a Christian. Her Church cannot be maintained because that is against the law. As she was walking in the market somebody stole some fruit and was summarily killed by the mob.

    Thousands of Christians were killed in Timor under the watchful eyes of the United Nations. In Papua persecution is much easier without media reports.

    Yes thank heaven for moderate Islam. Much more civilized.

    And thank heaven for those who continue to highlight their ignorance of Islam in Indonesia.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Oct 14, 2015 at 4:58 pm

      Sounds like Mindanao, the the large island at the southern tip of the Phillipines. The geniuses in Manila ceded the island to the Moslems as a semi-autonomous region in 2009 hoping that the trouble and murdering would stop in exchange, but instead it’s just gotten worse. Asia is not exempt from Allah’s commands in the Holy Ko-Ran, nor the examples set forth in the Aha-Death. Got the Sunnah, too. Plus the Sharia. It all adds up on a civilized society.

      • Jeremiah says

        Oct 14, 2015 at 5:03 pm

        That is where I live now. There is a semi autonomous area in Mindanao but not the whole of the island. However, sharia is on the move. It is expected that appeasement will continue as a government policy and ransoms will continue to be extracted.

      • Mazo says

        Oct 15, 2015 at 2:08 pm

        The “geniuses” in Manila started the war with the Moros by initiating massacres, mass rape and firebombing them.

        They flooded Mindanao with millions of Filipino colonists from the northern islands to make the native Moro and Lumad a minority.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 15, 2015 at 3:39 pm

          Here’s the usual from Mazo–the idea that Jihad violence all over the world is all the fault of the ‘filthy Infidels’.

        • Mazo says

          Oct 15, 2015 at 9:13 pm

          Cravenmirage, show me where I said what you claimed.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 15, 2015 at 9:55 pm

          Mazo wrote:

          Cravenmirage, (sic) show me where I said what you claimed.
          ……………………….

          Is Muslim Mazo so incapable of rational thinking that he forgot what he wrote one post above–where he blames the Jihad against Infidels in the Philippines on supposed unprovoked aggression against Muslims by the Kuffar?

          The fact is that Muslim aggression in the Philippines has a long history.

        • Jeremiah says

          Oct 16, 2015 at 4:08 am

          Christians have always held their hand out in peace to Muslims. Unfortunately neither the Muslims nor the Christians had read the Koran. Peace is impossible for a Muslim who has read the Koran. The Koran requires the extermination of all people.

          We need to abolish the doomsday teaching in the Koran. That will mean closing the Mosques in the same way as Islamic countries have closed Churches.We need to stop doing business with Islamic nations until they throw out the Koran.

        • Mazo says

          Oct 16, 2015 at 10:38 am

          Cravenmirage still provided zero evidence of that statement she claims I made.

          The fact is that the Spanish and Americans started the war against the Moros, started the aggression against the Moros and used Filipino soldiers to pillage, attack and slaughter Moro civilians. Spain initiated the very first attacks on the Moro Sultanates and started the Moro-Filipino conflict.

    • Angemon says

      Oct 14, 2015 at 6:20 pm

      Jeremiah posted:

      “Thank heaven for moderate secular Muslim countries like Indonesia and Turkey. Imagine what could have happened?”

      My feelings exactly. And don’t forget the shining paragons of human rights and equality that are Pakistan and the UAE. Plus all the multiculturalism that can be found in places like Saudi Arabia.

    • Shane says

      Oct 15, 2015 at 10:08 am

      Traitorous liberals like Ben Affleck who defend Islam from justified criticism point to “moderate” Muslim countries like Indonesia to show that Islam is not evil. The facts show that Muslims in every Muslim country oppress non-Muslims and most Muslim countries treat women badly.

      • Dr. Divinity says

        Oct 15, 2015 at 2:49 pm

        Wherever you find the muslim…you find the trotting filth of humanity….Moderate muslims??????????

    • Mazo says

      Oct 15, 2015 at 2:06 pm

      Mob lynching for theft is common to many non western countries and has nothing to do with religion.

      Mob lynching is not a punishment in Islam.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 15, 2015 at 4:12 pm

        Mazo wrote:

        Mob lynching is not a punishment in Islam.
        ……………………

        As with so much else of what Mazo spews here, this is actually quite misleading.

        While mob lynching is not a *specific* punishment in Islam, Islamic texts regularly note that if pious Muslims do not believe that the state will impose Islamic penalties then the Ummah (Muslim mob) *does* have the right to impose punishment themselves.

        Pious Muslims engaging in mob violence is, hence, extremely common.

        And notice that Mazo studiously avoids commenting on the story at hand–Indonesian Muslim mobs attacking churches and Christians. Will he tell us that this “has nothing to do with religion”, as well?

  2. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Oct 14, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    This is bad news for Barack Hussein, cuz the Indonesians are getting agitated. I did a scientific calculation a week ago and found that if a Republic is elected president, there is a 1 in 423,483,917 chance that the law will be enforced and he’ll be deported back to his homeland, the world’s most populous nation. All that’d be fine and good, but trouble is — as self-proclaimed fake Christian but actual secular humanist atheist — the observant Moslems there will have little choice but to lop off Barack Hussein’s noggin’ Alfred E. Newman ears and all. Terrible.

  3. madmemere says

    Oct 14, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    Let’s put it this way; I am a Catholic- – I have seen NO “positive achievements” between us and the muslim cult. The only “positive achievement” would be to “eliminate” all of them! Now, or in the very
    near future.

    • Kepha says

      Oct 14, 2015 at 8:13 pm

      madmemere, as a God-bless-King-Billy hard core Protestant, I strongly suspect that Mr. Spencer’s comments about “we Catholics” in dialogue with Muslim was either tongue-in-cheek or heavily sarcastic (and I suspect the latter)..

      • Angemon says

        Oct 14, 2015 at 8:23 pm

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/02/worcester-bishop-spencers-talk-about-extreme-militant-islamists-and-the-atrocities-that-they-have-pe

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 15, 2015 at 4:15 pm

        Kepha, Robert Spencer was not speaking for himself here–he was quoting Bishop Robert McManus.

  4. somehistory says

    Oct 14, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    I have a Christian friend in Jakarta, but have not heard from her in years. My last letter went unanswered. Don’t even know if she is still alive. If she is, she is in a living hell by now with such things as this happening.

    • sinantara says

      Oct 15, 2015 at 2:14 am

      Jakarta is no living hell for Christians. The governor is one, and even when the FPI and other groups did what they could to prevent a Christian Chinese to become governor, more Jakartans held pro Ahok e rallies.

      Aceh is the only province which has shariah, an unnecessary gift from the central government to appease the Acehnese, since they have been waging a guerrilla war for independence for years–which was stopped because of the tsunami, which drowned so many combatants from both sides that nobody was left with enough anger to fight. However, GAM was not particularly Islamist, and the GAM veterans feel cheated by the Islamists who hijacked the peace process (talks were held in Sweden). Of course, this is only whispered, just like in the west people don’t dare to risk being called an Islamophobe, here intimidation is enabled by the fear of being marked as anti Islam which means one is against God…

      However, Aceh serves a noble goal, as a show window for what sharia represents.And it works, the trend to sharia-ize the regions has stopped in its tracks, at least it slowed from a trot into crawl. This does not means it is abandoned, but there is no place here to elaborate on the battle for the soul (interpretation) od Islam. Enough to say, the biggest stumbling block for the radicals is tradition, particularly Javanese tradition. NU, the biggest Islamic organization is the world has declared itself “‘Indonesian Islam”, accusing the radicals of bringing the troubles of the mideast to Indonesia which needs to address serious programs like putting out the forest fires, saving the down sliding rupiah, etc. so strictly religious issues are left to the individual. There is this feeling of being left behind by the infidels but without the bitterness of the beaten Arab world (my theory is, the Turks relegated the Arabs back to the desert, and then spend their own energy and resources on the project of conquering Europe and leaving their Arab co-religionists in a forgotten corner, with only Islam to be proud of).

      Just some anecdotes to show that in Indonesia all is not lost: Miss Indonesia 2013 was a Aceh girl living in Jakarta, and the Acehnese ulama gnashed their teeth, and e Jakartans loved it (the gnashing). When district head of Muelaboh forbade women to sit astride a motor bike Jakarta based media featured him as a clown. He was interviewed just to make fun of his views and opinions, but in the vein of see for yourself!

      Of course there were holes in the wall, two MB affiliated PKS ministers in the past administration (before Jokowi) held education and communication. Education then was primed to “improve ah’laq/morals. Translated into more and more religion inserted into the secular curriculum. Communications? Blocking pornography online, with which I agree but the pornographers know as much as internet technology), and blocking breasts on TV, which is a nuisance since even cartoons are censored (like Tinkerbell).

      But on the whole, even apostates are not living in hell here, although it would be good for western leftists to come to mass on Christmass in Indonesia and then they can tell the people that they shouldn’t have so much security because it can be offensive to Muslims, it is prejudiced. The answer will be, you don’t even need a tiny minority to hijack the religion of peace, a single person blowing himself up with a bomb filed with ball bearings like what happened in Sukoharjo should be enough to become a paranoid security freak and the hell with offending scores of Muslims. It goes like this, what is a liberal? Someone who has not yet been mugged. What is an Islam apologist? Someone whose spouse of child has not yet been torn to pieces and plastered over the walls.

      • somehistory says

        Oct 15, 2015 at 11:29 am

        It may not be full on with their unlawful code of conduct, but I know Christians are restricted by it even in Jakarta. She gave me quite the complete picture of how her life was adversely affected and restricted by islam.
        And it can’t be better today than it was when she was writing regularly. Living in such a majority…the most populated land…of moslems would be hell for me.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 15, 2015 at 4:37 pm

        Sinatara, the problem of Islamic oppression and violence in Indonesia is not limited to Aceh–this is merely the worst of the regions.

        For instance, pious Muslims have forced closure of dozens of churches in Java, and Christian schoolgirls have been beheaded in Sulawesi.

        • Mazo says

          Oct 15, 2015 at 4:56 pm

          LOL at cravenmirage telling Sinantara about his own country.

          Thousands of Madurese Muslims have been beheaded by animist Dayaks and Malay Muslims in Kalimantan. And their Mosques were destroyed. Does that mean Indonesia is an anti-Islam country?

        • Angemon says

          Oct 15, 2015 at 5:43 pm

          Funny coming from you , Mazo – considering the variety in people posting here, how many users you told about their countries without ever setting your feet in them?

          Also, are you negating anything that GI said about the closing of churches and beheading of Christian schoolgirls? Thought so – standard distraction and deflection.

        • sinantara says

          Oct 15, 2015 at 7:31 pm

          I know, I know. 20 years ago the number of burned down churches was already over 500. And worse than beheading school girls, it happened in the context of the a complete civil war–with Poso under attack being the center of Christianity in central Sulawesi. And this was a spill over from the “Ambon Jihad”. But the problem faced by Indonesian the jihadi are that many Christians in Indonesia belong to traditionally martial cultures. Like the Ambonese belong to the Alfuru who used to raid other island tribes in their “kora-kora”, canoes to take heads. So the Dutch made them into allies and the backbone of their colonial army, standard practice of colonial powers. So if Javanese Christians act as if burning of churches is as natural as eruptions of the Merapi, patiently rebuilt them without much compliant and see to it that their children get the best education and therefore a voice in politics, Ambonese retaliate–you burn my church I burn your mosque. You shoot at me I shoot back–this really frustrated the jihadi’s and led to an escalation of violence and barbarity. It ended with a stalemate althoug three Christians had to be sacrificed by the government as “instigators” of the war and executed to appease the Muslim majority. Three a symbolic equalizer because three Muslims had to be executed because of the “Bali bomb”. Note, the conflict started because of…Muslim in migration by Muslim ethnic groups upsetting the demographic balance, let this be a warning.

          About Kalimantan, the Madurese migrants had so much contempt for the heathen “natives” that they forgot that themselves. They also forgot that while Dayaks are indeed naked kafir harbi, they were also a warrior culture. While the Dayak had never learned that in a PC MS minorities should call the tune, they even didn’t care to be called racist or Islamophobe. When the Madurese started to make threats the Dayak simply decided the Madurese had to go and used shock and awe tactics. And so shocked and awed was everybody that after the killing everybody hastily agreed that it all was a misunderstanding and please don’t talk religion, lest the situation will get out of control. Let’s shake hands and forget about it. So in this case no jihad to defend Muslim brethern was called, there were no brothers left in place and it is one thing to bully people who turn the other cheek and pray for their tormentors, it is another thing to face martial warrior tribes who delighted in the conflicts of WW2 and the Indonesia Malaysia conflict and communist uprising because they suddenly were asked to forget civilization for a moment since heads had to be taken (the Japanese bought back the nicely decorated heads of their soldiers).

          When later a FPI leader came to Pontianak he found out that a delegation of concerned citizens was waiting for him with their mandau sharpened–he just decided to stay in the plane…

          That Muslim Malay abetted the Dayak is mostly because many are converted Dayak who after conversion call themselves Malay and become urbanized but still consider themselves members of the tribe.

          My point is, Indonesia is a big country with some thousand islands, hundreds of ethnic groups, clans and tribes, religions, levels civilization–and 250 million people. Aceh is in the extreme west and has shariah, Merauke is in the extreme east and once threatened with declaring itself a Christian republic, and since it borders on Papua Nuigini, it can get away with such statements. And in such mix, shit happens–and people find ways to adjust.

          But lessons from the west, co-existence is possible because a balance between flexibility and knowing where one stands. In Kupang (Timor) a fanatical Muslim from Sulawesi entered a church a spat on the consecrated bread–he was dragged out of church and beaten to death and again, no jihad ensued because the Timorese had made it clear, here we draw a line, this is our region so behave, and such a message was taken–although the deed is un Christian, sometimes lives have to be saved by being un Christian.

          In other words, both sides (I don’t say what sides) keep each other hostage–we are a minority here but you are a minority there, and you can take my leg but we can (read, are willing) to take an arm. Not an ideal situation but it works, by default since the law doesn’t rule, and it is up to individuals to make the best of it. One thing that Indonesian Christians don’t do is relying on victimhood, it doesn’t work here, only if one wants refugee status in the west.

          The message of Swedes to their government is, they rape our girls so we firebomb their mosques, if you want this to stop, stop the rapes. Indonesians would understand this perfectly, even its Muslims.

        • Godwin says

          Oct 16, 2015 at 12:57 am

          Mazo, I never heard nor read of Dayak destroying Mosques in Kalimantam.

        • Mazo says

          Oct 16, 2015 at 10:36 am

          Malays destroyed the Mosques.

  5. sally says

    Oct 14, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    So sad. Jeremiah above my heart goes out to you. I have travelled though different parts of Indonesia over the years and i love the indonesian people. Flores was different and special with its sweeping boulevards swept clean . Especially on the outer island’s does Islam seem so incongrouous yet “sacred” ho hum, however only near medan did I kick a man’s teeth out when he tried to rape me. I had to run through the forest for hours till I met kind people who helped me.

    • Kepha says

      Oct 14, 2015 at 8:40 pm

      Sally–interesting story. I never made it to Indonesia in my Asian travels, but the affairs of that country nonetheless impressed itself on my mind.

      For one thing, I’m connected to Taiwan’s Hakka community via marriage. While in Thailand, I surprised and pleased some Hakka-speaking Sino-Indonesians from Medan by speaking their language. Most recently, during trips back to Taiwan, I’ve noticed that the place is full of Thai, Viet, and Indonesian guest workers–to say nothing of Overseas Chinese from Indonesia who have resettled in Taiwan. The cement company that formerly operated in my in-laws’ home town also once had a deal with a company in Indonesia, and a lot of the technicians and engineers who went down to help were rather pleased with how many Hakka-speaking Sino-Indonesians they ran into down there.

      My brothers-in-law hired a very pleasant, capable and polyglott Muslim woman from Java to care for their aged parents. While the woman won’t eat the pork consumed in my in-laws’ home, she’s fine with the chicken and beef, which, I am sure, are probably not halal. Surprisingly, she was very positively impressed with my wife’s and my praying (in Christian manner) for my father-in-law as he was dying.

      It also impressed me while I was working in Taichung last, that the Indonesians pretty much crowded out the families of some old soldiers in the local mosque (there’s a small but clear Hui presence in Taiwan; mostly among the post-1949 population and Yunnanese from the Golden Triangle area). However, while I often saw lots of brown, clearly native Indonesian (sometimes wearing the tudong or skullcap) folk eating in the Indonesian restaurants I patronized (invariably run by non-Muslim Hakka from Kalimantan), I never saw them patronize the halal places run by Hui (yes, I am partial to beef jiaozi and mutton hot pot).

      I never heard of Taiwan having any trouble with its Muslim guest workers. Their biggest “immigrant problem” at this point seems to be the children of Taiwanese fathers and Thai or Viet mothers who have trouble with Mandarin and learning to read Chinese in school. Then again, Taiwan’s not above deporting troublemakers (be it American student Leftists in the 1970’s or troublesome guest workers now). I also suspect that even though they’ve come to the point where they want darker-skinned folk doing their low-level work, the Taiwanese (being mostly Hoklo, with a respectable minority of Hakka) can be pretty feisty, and a dangerous people to antagonize on their home turf.

      • Mazo says

        Oct 15, 2015 at 2:12 pm

        These same Muslim Indonesians from Java use Hindu Sanskrit derived names and consider Ramayana and Mahabharata as their national literature.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 15, 2015 at 4:48 pm

        Kepha, my guess as to why Muslims don’t represent much of a problem in Taiwan at this point is that they are a tiny minority, represent just about 0.3% of the population. There are only seven Mosques in the entire country.

        If–God forbid!–Muslims ever become a larger part of the population there, I’m sure we’ll see the predictable rise in Jihad violence and demands for the imposition of Shari’ah.

      • Mazo says

        Oct 16, 2015 at 2:50 pm

        Indonesia has the Hindu Elephant headed god Ganesha on their currency.

        Once an Indonesian President gave a Ramayana or Mahabharata as a gift to the Pakistani President. The Pakistani President asked him why the F he was giving him a Hindu holy book.

        The Indonesian Javanese Muslims came from a Hindu background and still use Hindu names, keep elements of Hindu culture and Hindu epic literature so they assumed Pakistan was the same.

        If someone printed Hindu gods on Pakistani currency he would be instantly fired.

  6. Gary says

    Oct 14, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    Islam Revealed:

    “In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn’t do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn’t love his brother. For this is the message which you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another; unlike Cain, who was of the evil one, and killed his brother. Why did he kill him? Because his deeds were evil, and his brother’s righteous.
    Don’t be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.” (1 John 3:10-13)

  7. Joni says

    Oct 14, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    I am indonesian, Burning church, shutdown church, rejection of church building is very general situation in indonesia. Goverment seem ok with that years after years with that conditions.
    Christian and other religions must have province goverment permits to build churchs or temple, 90 mandatory from theirs own and 60 permits from local moslems, local goverment permits etc.
    But its imposible to had that permits especialy 60 permits from local moslems.
    So basicly christians must have moslems permits in order to pray.
    But it is OK, christians here are always be thankfully to moslems that we can pray in our bedroom in our house.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 15, 2015 at 4:50 pm

      Thanks for that report from the front lines in Indonesia, Joni.

      And I very much understand your bitter sarcasm in the last part of your post.

  8. Idris Adam says

    Oct 15, 2015 at 6:02 am

    for more information please Visit :https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=176243572436664&story_fbid=446948815324831. hope someone can translate into english

  9. Peter says

    Oct 15, 2015 at 9:08 am

    Just a replay of the late 1990s, when thousands of non-Muslims in the Spices Islands were killed or forcibly converted to the religion of peace, along with half a million made homeless. Anyone paying attention.

    • Mazo says

      Oct 15, 2015 at 2:10 pm

      In the 1990s, Muslim Madurese migrants were massacred by native Dayak animists and Malay Muslims. Indonesian government also didn’t do anything.

      The Indonesian govenment is not concerned about who got killed. There wasn’t religious bias.

  10. f c king says

    Oct 15, 2015 at 10:28 am

    Time for another tsunami to clear out the excessive islamic extremists there.

  11. komo says

    Oct 15, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    Sorry for my bad english, hope you can understand and correct my words below :

    the conclusion of Islam are two:
    1. Moderate Islam
    2. Radical Islam

    Why those who oppose Islam equates Islam with no.2, Due to the fact:
    -no.1 can’t do anything if they faced with the no.2 (fear)
    -if no.2 chop people or make fireworks, the no.1 silent and even seem to support
    -if infidels turns eradicating the no.2, no.l do splashy demonstration
    -in certain circumstances, no.1 can turn to be no.2 (the most dangerous because it can’t be predicted)

    Both equations:
    – Both want to implement Sharia Law (Law based on Islam)
    – Both like conspiracy theories
    – Both feel the world turning with them as axis / they feel they are important so they always be envied by infidels (outside Islam)
    – No.1 is sensitive, but no.2 is very sensitive
    – Both very like role as victim / drama queen / playing victims
    – Both like to blame each other, no.1 say no.2 is wrong, vice versa … if both blame each other, maybe it all wrong from the beginning, you should be honest with each other, just confirming that Moderate Islam is right and Radical Islam who like decapitated and bomb is also right, let western people more confused

    • g says

      Oct 15, 2015 at 4:52 pm

      All very true, komo.

      And don’t worry–your English is fine.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 15, 2015 at 5:05 pm

        “g” is “gravenimage”.

    • Dacritic says

      Oct 15, 2015 at 9:56 pm

      Haha Komo, thumbs up to your comment!

    • Anthony says

      Oct 15, 2015 at 10:52 pm

      Right on Komo ! You sum it up pretty well, and the westerners are indeed confused as they think that our Islam ( I’m Indonesian ) is indeed the real Islam ha ha.
      As I see it all read the same Koran but no 1 understand less and luckily for the kuffars no 1 forms the majority of the muslims, for now

  12. alteisenindo says

    Oct 16, 2015 at 12:10 am

    I live in Indonesia and the media downplay this news and focusing on the legality of the churches and not the attack. So this is the news reel:

    muslims burn a church -> 1 wounded, some hurt -> 2000 Christians evacuated -> muslims blame Christians (muslims have a special right to burn churches) -> The President & VP sing the same song: (fake) tolerance must be upheld -> muslim officials say this is not about religion (a lie as usual) -> muslim officials decide to destroy 10 more churches.

    • Godwin says

      Oct 16, 2015 at 1:22 am

      Indonesia is a very poor country n has to export thousands of migrant workers to many countries of the world. Some of these counties ill-treat them esp. the Arab countries which beheaded some of them without fair trials.

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