Yes, in “Jimmy Carter Georgia.”
Georgia Public Schools are teaching key components of Islamic dawah: “schools are reportedly forcing students to learn the Five Pillars of Islam—the creed one must learn to convert—and teaching students that Allah is the same God worshipped by Christians.” So far, unlike in Tennessee, they haven’t [yet] forced the students to actually recite the Shahada, the Muslim confession of faith.
Further, homework assignments are designed to indoctrinate students into accepting this assertion as fact, when it is a strongly contested point which many traditional Christians flatly reject, and with compelling reason. In addition, the volume of Georgia school materials on Islam outnumber those on Christianity by up to 10 to 1, further highlighting the preferential treatment accorded Islam “in a way that could violate the U.S. Constitution.”
The “Same God” assertion is indeed a primary plank of Islamic dawah (proselytizing), and together with Islam’s claim to be an “Abrahamic Faith” is one of the main tools used by Muslim apologists to advance their agenda within unsuspecting Christian and Jewish communities.
Besides the theological issues with the “Same God” claim itself, Mark Durie explains some of the many dangers this and the “Abrahamic Faith” assertion conceals:
The many “Abrahamic Faith” conferences throughout the world is but one expression of the Islamicisation (sic) of Christian understandings of interfaith dialogue…
This historical negationism—appearing to affirm Christianity and Judaism whilst in fact rejecting and supplanting them—is a lynchpin of Muslim apologetics.
What is being affirmed is in fact neither Christianity nor Judaism, but Jesus as a prophet of Islam, Abraham as a Muslim, Moses as a Muslim, etc. This is intended to lead to ‘reversion’ of Christians and Jews to Islam, which is what [Shamim A.] Siddiqi [author of the Muslim proselytizing guide, ‘Methodology of Dawah‘, which explicitly teaches Muslim preachers to withhold from potential converts the full truth about Islam’s violent and supremacist aspects until after they have professed the faith] refers to when he speaks of “the joint responsibility” of Jews and Christians to establish “the Kingdom of God”. By this he is asserting that American Christians and Jews should embrace Islam and work together to establish Sharia law and the dominance of Islam in the United States.
The traditional Islamic view is that if you want to know what the God of the Bible is like, then read the Koran. Not only must Muslims believe that “we worship the same God”, but this message is always a central component of the presentation of Islam to Christians and Jews.
[This message] provides the lynchpin of Muslims’ efforts to convert the “People of the Book” to the faith of Muhammad. In addition, this belief, once accepted, can lead Christians to support Islamic perspectives in ways other than conversion. For example, embracing this Islamic doctrine wins a measure of respect and even support for Islam from Christians.
—Dr. Mark Durie, Revelation: Do We Worship The Same God?, pp 50-51, 75-76 (emphasis added). (Dr. Durie’s highly recommended book has since been updated and expanded, and published in a new edition entitled Same God? Jesus, Holy Spirit, God in Christianity and Islam.)
See also: Tennessee openly promotes Islam: 7th-graders made to recite Islamic statement of faith
“Reports of Islamic Indoctrination Spread to Georgia Public Schools,” by Allison Fick, ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice), October 2, 2015:
Islamic indoctrination in public school is occurring right here in our backyard. As we previously reported, the core tenets of Islam are being taught in public schools in a way that could violate the U.S. Constitution. Other religions, such as Christianity, are barely covered. Recently, reports out of Georgia paralleled what has happened in Florida, Wisconsin, and Tennessee.
Georgia schools are required by the Georgia Department of Education to teach about Islam. For example, the Georgia Performance Standards mandate that students be able to “Compare and contrast the prominent religions in Southwest Asia (Middle East): Judaism, Islam, and Christianity.” Much like other states, the Georgia Department of Education sets state-wide education standards and the local schools decide the curriculum. Local schools in Georgia, however, are reportedly adopting curriculums that appear aimed at indoctrinating—rather than educating—students.
The Atlanta Journal Constitution reported on one local middle school that is taking their curriculum too far. The AJC reports:
“It is important that students understand the differences between each of these religions to help them understand the tensions that exist in the region,” the state standards, known as the Georgia Performance Standards, say.
In Walton County, that manifested itself in a homework assignment one parent found objectionable: “Allah is the [blank] worshiped by Jews & Christians,” the document said. The child filled in the blank with “same God.”
This is outrageous. State education standards require education on Islam, not indoctrination into the religion. Rather than explain the history of world religions, schools are reportedly forcing students to learn the Five Pillars of Islam—the creed one must learn to convert—and teaching students that Allah is the same God worshipped by Christians.
Unfortunately, this practice has been happening in schools for years. A spokeswoman for Walton County Public Schools stated that
“We are teaching the same stuff that everyone else is teaching,” she said, adding that the district hasn’t changed its curriculum on the topic in nine years. Her son, a senior in high school, told her he remembers doing a quiz along the lines of the Allah is the “same God” back when he was in seventh grade.
“The same stuff that everyone else is teaching…” That could work as the epitaph on the tombstone of American Education, and epitomizes the sheer ignorance of many of those trusted with public education, and their complicity in the accelerating Islamization of generations of American students, not to mention the progressive crippling of the intellectual vibrancy of the United States.
Parents are understandably outraged. As one frustrated parent told the local news, “We are seeing one page, five statements of Christian faith and 5 or 10 pages of Islamic faith, so there is no accountability to make sure it is equal.”
Something needs to be done. We at the ACLJ are working hard to investigate, expose, and end these unconstitutional practices, and are committed to fighting for the constitutionally protected rights of all public school students. We continue to receive contact from concerned parents and citizens. We are working directly with our clients—parents of students in local schools—and preparing to send out demand letters to these schools if necessary. Moreover, we recently sent open records requests to every school district in Tennessee to find out exactly what is being taught in our schools.
The ACLJ will not stop until our students’ constitutionally protected rights have been restored.
To learn more about Shari’ah law’s threat to our constitutional freedoms, please see our booklet Shari’ah Law: Radical Islam’s Threat to the U.S. Constitution.
Sign the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) petition, Establishment Clause: Stop Islamic Indoctrination in School.
Jay Boo says
Now students, lets show our peaceful Muslim friends that we admire their religion and draw a nice sketch of Muhammad.
No Fear says
Excellent idea.
My son, when he was at school, learned about Islam as part of religious studies. Nowadays he is an “Islamophobe”. The beauty of the internet is that information about a topic, such as Islam, is freely available for all to evaluate. None of the lies told by imams need to be accepted any more.
Jay Boo says
Mo Ho-ing in public schools.
Miau Zedong says
Someone tell the parents that their children are being “baptized” (reciting the shahada) into muslims after that they are either muslims or islamic apostates.
Please correct me, if my statement is wrong from the islamic perspective.
Jay Boo says
Teachers should explain the true meaning of the intolerance inherent in the context of the shahada.
madmemere says
Chances are, if this has been going on this long, then these teaches don’t even know the difference themselves!
ECAW says
I believe there is a proviso that the shahada must be said with sincerity. I did have the idea of suggesting mass conversions followed by immediate recanting to send the message “That’s what we think of your religion. What are you going to do about it, kill us all?”. It was only when I heard about the “sincere” bit that I realised that imams could say it doesn’t count since they didn’t mean it.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Excuse me, but there is no provision that the shahada must be recited with sincerity. My source for this information is the book
http://www.amazon.co.uk/What-Do-Muslims-Believe-We/dp/1862078343?tag=duc08-21
by Ziauddin Sardar, who I understand is famous in Britain as an explainer of Islam.
There may be a way to get an online peek at pages 1 and 2 of this book, where the definition of a Muslim is given: anyone who has ever uttered the shahada. There is no requirement of sincerity or even theism. You become a Muslim because of an event in your speech history.
Jayke says
I would like to see the cessation of using their religious words. We have enough English words to describe their false teachings. For example I can say Mohammedans recite a phrase to become followers of Mo and dedicate themselves to his god. We can call it the pledge of allegiance to mo’ or something. Just spare me the Arabic mumbo jumbo. I don’t care to know it and i won’t repeat it.
jihad3tracker says
We should have enough American readers of JW here to do a large “check my local schools” project. If you have the typical 3 divisions — elementary, middle, high — it is worth the time to examine all three levels.
Possibly, that can be done by getting on the district’s website, rather than an in-person visit. I am not a teacher or supervisor, but I think a key word for obtaining the description of all instructional materials in a course is “SYLLABUS”.
However, just the syllabus might NOT give enough detail for exactly what parts of which books or handouts are emphasized by teachers, so there may be not true equivalent for an actual trip to the schools.
Remember: there is a deep network of stealth jihadists and money to pay them without any of us knowing what is going on. Getting lies into young minds has always been a primary goal of totalitarianism.
jihad3tracker says
I FORGOT THIS —- Are there readers here who have knowledge of how to lodge formal objections [about course materials] to a school district or county administrator, and then stay with the process through hearings or however such things are decided ????
Please clue us in, even if how to accomplish that varies from state to state, as I am guessing it does.
Michael Copeland says
When Islamic State destroyed the tomb of Saint Elian and the Mar Elian monastery they explained that it was because they were “dedicated to a god other than Allah”.
That should be in the school text books.
Abraham the Jew? No. The Koran expressly states that “Ibrahim” was not a Jew. The “excellent pattern” he showed (Koran 60:4) is “between us and you animosity and hatred forever…”
That should be in the school text books, too.
Truth Seeker says
Is it not Evident that Islamic Trojan Horses Infiltrated into Georgian Education Department has very high Influence to puppetise the Decision Makers?
If allah is the same God of Christianity, why the Pledge, No God but Allah by those who want to Embrace Islam?
Whatever Engraved in Childhood can’t be erased even after the Child Grown up.
Infiltrated Islamic Trojan Horses are Much More Dangerous than the Jihadi Terrorists. Terrorists are Frontline Jihadis and Trojan Horses are Stealth Jihadis. Both will get the Reward of Janaah, that is the Belief.
Mirren10 says
What are you playing at, ‘truth’seeker ? On the Australian mosque thread, you were waxing all poetic about the peace and love being preached in mosques; now you appear to be warning us about islamic Trojan Horses.
You also expected to be banned, “because that’s what right wing, islamophobic sites do,” and lo and behold, you’re still here, making no sense whatsoever.
Joseph says
Mirren10,
Truth Seeker is not stating anything against the perverse act of teaching our children this garbage. In fact like a good Muslim he is rubbing our faces in the fact that they are getting away with this crap and telling us that our very own children will become our nightmare.
No, I still believe Truth Seeker is an Islamic apologist but he couldn’t resist the temptation of gleefully telling us what they are doing and the horrors that will follow. Strike fear into our hearts?
Truth Seeker, I have bad news for you…A man that can focus his fear against his enemy is a man that will win the battle and the war. Thanks for the ammunition.
Mirren10 says
I’m sure you’re right, Joseph.
Evil scrotes like ‘truth seeker’, don’t, of course, have to be consistent.
Michael Copeland says
“It is unbelief (kufr) to hold that the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions such as “Christianity” and “Judaism” are acceptable…”
“Reliance of the Traveller” (Manual of Islamic Law) w4
: “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;” Koran 3:85
So much for “interfaith dialogue”.
ECAW says
Off topic
I was thinking of trying to counter a blog post (by the egregious Craig Considine) about patriotic Muslims in the US military by producing some counter examples. The only one I know of is the guy at Fort Hood. Does anyone know of others? Thanks.
somehistory says
You might google the ones who were stationed in Iraq or Afghanistan and killed their own fellow soldiers. I know there were a couple, but do not recall the names.
SB says
Oregon Shooter – US Army/Fort Jackson reject @ 5 weeks, 2008
somehistory says
Try googling Hasan K. Akbar and also, the incident in Texas…thinking it was Killeen, TX. Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo.
Westman says
I would recommend having the children read a compilation of the Quran’s descriptions of the sadistic Allah’s Hell. I doubt any would think Allah was even a god and more likely that he was something from a horror movie.
“…We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.”
“Then indeed you, O those astray (who are) deniers, will be eating from trees of zaqqum and filling with it your bellies, and drinking on top of it from scalding water, and will drink as the drinking of thirsty camels. That is their hospitality on the Day of Recompense.”
“…But those who disbelieved will have cut out for them garments of fire. Poured upon their heads will be scalding water.”
“…They will be given to drink boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces).”
“So no friend has he here this Day, nor has he any food except filth from the washing of wounds which none do eat but those in sin.”
“This – so let them taste it – is scalding water and (foul) purulence. And other (punishments) of its type (in various) kinds.”
Allah makes the Dear Leader of North Korea seem benevolent.
It should come to mind that this will constitute child abuse to the liberals, yet they want to invite this into their schools and community.
Islam is an obvious fraud, designed to motivate conquest by males and give the clerics control of the muslim society.
Cunamarra says
I think it is important to note that note only is this Allah thinking up these tortures, but it is also Allah who is carrying out these tortures in Hell. Allah is the deity who is in Hell torturing souls according to the Koran. The Koran is said to be the words of Allah. As I read the Koran for the first time, I was increasingly suspicious of the claim that this was the same deity of the Jews and Christians, particularly when I read passages that say Allah “puts a veil over their eyes so they can’t see” and “leads astray whom he will.” A deity who “plots and plans” against human beings and uses deception is certainly not worthy of worship.
Ideas are important. An atheist may reject the notion of a supernatural force or deity but the fact that an Idea of a deity exists in men’s hearts and minds must be accepted. The idea of a deity that is a liar and a murderer, a deceiver and a torturer appears in many cultures throughout the world. In most cases it is a deity that is to be resisted by the human hero or benevolent deity. I am unaware of any other modern ideology that elevates such an idea to a place of supreme worship other than Islam. The consequence of this “elevation of the depraved” is apparent the world over.
somehistory says
At one time, it was not allowed to teach religion in Florida unless the class was a *religious* class…either directly by a religious school to its students…or in a public school in one class where the course was learning the history of religions, and it was not allowed that one religion would be treated with this kind of indoctrination. And any teacher who *taught* their own religion as truth could be sued. Even just telling a child the teacher believed in God or Jesus could get the teacher fired.
To find out that state after state is requiring the children to *learn* all about this dangerous cult of death and destruction is alarming, to say the least. Parents better wake up and find out if their child/children are being taught this disgusting evil as something to be followed and desired.
If they were actually being taught the real facts and not the made up stuff, then that would be an asset.
Parents should be able to bring suit against the schools, states and department of education.
Likely the only safe thing for parents to do is to take their children out of public school before the kids are *radicalized.*
Dave J says
Yes, they should teach the Quran in public schools – a simple reading of the text should be enough for even children to understand the hatred and intolerance it contains.
And that “Allah” cannot possibly be the “same God”. This is more nonsense from the wishful thinkers who tell us “all religions are the same”. Real knowledge about Islam is needed to understand the goals and techniques of jihadism so we can defend ourselves from it.
Angemon says
Indeed. If we were talking about Christianity I don’t doubt that the usual suspect would have a field day – oh, the humanity, our children are being indoctrinated into *gasp* Christianity!
Angemon says
*suspects
Joseph says
Angemon, if Christianity was taught in schools we might have young adults with morals, respecting others and having compassion for their fellow man. That of course does not fit into the leftist agenda.
These are the first steps to flushing this country down the toilet, there will be so much crap that it will overflow onto the floor and what a mess that will be.
The left is worried about this farce called climate change? This matter(Islam) BY FAR surpasses anything on the table right now.
Mirren10 says
Joseph, I totally concur.
As you know, I’m agnostic, but I believe if the whole of the world embraced Christian beliefs, the world would be a hell of a lot of a better place.
Angemon says
Same here.
Joseph says
That is true Eddie but later in life it was thrown by the wayside for the desire of power was greater and the morals of Christianity did not fit their goals.
On the obverse look at what Islam is teaching their kids. Children as young as five saying they want to kill the Jews or be martyred via suicide vest.
In the USA we had Romper room, Mr. Rogers and Captain Kangaroo for kids. In the ME they have shows for kids too but it is 180 deg what we were taught. They probably even call it Bombers room, Mr. Jihad and Captain slaughter. Look for yourself.
Raja says
US had a “great” President who said Islam was a peaceful religion in spite of its attempt to kill 50,000 people and attempting to destroy it militarily and economically on Sep 11.
America has become laughing stock for the rest of the world except for “first” world nations with the slogan: Oh those terrorists don’t represent Islam.
Having been numbed by terrorism it was about time the terror mongering Islam is accommodated in the system. This was a natural corollary.
No Islamic country allows the gospel to be preached and they remain bloodiest of all nations. US CANNOT BE IN QUAGMIRE in Syria she ALREADY is on her own soil.
The WORLD NEEDS GOOD LEADERS not crooks like Obi, Bushi, Tonies, Merkier, Camera and so on.
MAY GOD GIVE US GOOD LEADERS !!!!!
Jaladhi says
The leaders who lie to us willfully or due to ignorance are morally corrupt in my book!! The present day leaders have become so because of the left wing liberal PC culture pervading the West! If some body cannot call evil an evil and cannot face, fight evil so as not to offend certain segment of society and thus harm the majority then nobody can help us!
Jaladhi says
We talk about how UK and Europe are going to be Muslim in near future but don’t realize we are going down the black hole of Islam so rapidly and don’t even know it. Who will save USA??
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Putin and the Red Army.
Jaladhi says
Ha, ha, ha,… good one!! LOL… Maybe you are on to something! LOL….
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
You know, I looked up the top federal marginal tax rates for the two countries: in Russia it’s 13% and here it is of course 39%. Now, that low rate is for the superwealthy kleptocrats in Russia, and there are other taxes besides federal income, but things have changed. People don’t realize how deep into socialism we’ve slipped the last few decades, frog in the pan that’s suddenly boiling and all that. And how Russia has loosened things up.
So maybe Vlad rolling in standing out of the hatch on an endless line of T-14 Armata tanks pulling into DC might not be the worst thing. We wouldn’t be any more socialist, and we’d sure as hell have a better foreign policy.
manuel paleologus says
I do not have doubts Obama is Muslim. His actions made me to believe this. All his actions during these years shows his adversity against Christianity and his ‘indulgence’ to islam. Europe is very advance in the process of Islamization. The Americans (not all) but many are ignorant and do not want to know anything about racial antagonism, Islam, and the dangerous path America is going on.
We never experience so much racial crime, anti-cops crimes, teaching Islam in the public schools and comparing allah with Christ.
Islam is not a religion. Allah is not equal to the Christian God and has nothing to do with Christianity. Only the Jewish people worship the same God-Father as the Christians do. This is why the islamists use the misleading tool to present the divine source of islam.
Any derogative comment on islam is falsely labeled as ‘islamophobia’.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Yeah, all of what you say is true… but I still think he’s a secular humanist atheist posing as a fake Christian. The man is so empty, so shallow, so enervated, so robotic that I can’t see him as a Moslem. You standard issue Moslem Man is edgy, pissed off all the time, and dangerous. This guy is an on-his-knees prison shower room punk, the only thing he shares with the Moslem Man is that he’s totally full of shit, and makes no aspology. In other words, a pathological liar.
Ed says
They got that wrong. allah is the same god worshipped by satanists, not Christians.
life seeker says
Very true. Satanists do not target moslems. They only target Christians.
Angemon says
In all fairness, none of the satanists I know actually worship satan. They’re simply atheist pricks who would choose to sit on their lazy ass instead of giving a helping hand to those who might need it.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The overpaid underworked crowd from the AFT and NEA have gotten so bad at teaching the three R’s that they’re always looking for something new to inculcate into the ignoramuses they’re bringing up. The linkage here is that the “teachers” are a solid voting bloc for the Globo-Socialist Party (nee the Democratic Party), and they are unhappy with all the negative publicity the Moslems have been receiving on the TV set. Instinctively they know this negativity comes from prejudice, and so they only seek to rectify it by teaching the Five Pillars.
Wanna bet whether they also teach the kids the Ten Commandments?
sahani says
Looks like arab money flowing to politicians to buy the local fools and convert them to islam.
silasozzie says
disgusting. to be fair NO religious verses should be recited in schools
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Hear hear! None. As in zero. At least in a public school. Also, there should be $0 of taxpayer money given to private schools, whether religious or not, in any form of tax.
Me, I went to St. Theresa of the Little Flower. Now, before you laugh, we had the toughest football team with Notre Dame-like uniforms and we won City every other year. But M-F started with Mass, then the walk over to the school, then Catechism, and then the surprise questions about religion that would suddenly pop up out of nowhere during algebra or geography. LF got $0 tax dollars, and didn’t want any.
Now, the neighborhood it’s in has turned into a ghetto, but it’s a hard to get in high priced private school where the moms pull up in their Mercedes SUVs to drop the kids off. Ain’t kidding, it’s a sight to see.
There’s no more football team, though. The students are too fearful of violent crime to stay after school until dark.
Edward says
“The ‘Same God’ assertion is indeed”…….a shame more the likes of a sham to assert the same god pitch here In America! The attributes of the God from the book of Creation and of Allah, Islam’s spiritual and their personal human guide (Koran) since its introduction 1400 years ago should be compared.
By simply contrasting the godly attributes between the ‘God’, the gift giver of ‘His Image’ as an act of love at the moment of our conceptions and Allah, he who needs to be loved first by his believer to be loved back. A list of godly attributes are being provided here for our use to determine the legitimacy of the real Supreme Creator of our humanity.
The attributes of the ‘God’ from the book of Creation, Genesis:
1. WISDOM: “Wisdom is the ability to devise perfect ends and to achieve these ends by the most perfect means.”
2. INFINITUTE: God knows no boundaries. He is without measure.
3. Sovereignty: This is “the attribute by which He rules His entire creation.” It is the application of His other attributes of being all-knowing and all-powerful. It makes Him absolutely free to do what He knows to be best. God is in control of everything that happens. Man still has a free will, and is responsible for his choices in life.
4. HOLINESS: This is the attribute that sets God apart from all created beings.
5. TRINITY: Though the actual word is not used in the Bible, the truth of God revealing Himself in three persons is included. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all called God, given worship as God, exist eternally, and are involved in doing things only God could do. Although, God reveals Himself in three persons, God is One and cannot be divided. All are involved completely whenever One of the Three is active.
6. OMNISCIENCE: “God possesses perfect knowledge and therefore has no need to learn.”
7. FAITHFULNESS: Everything that God has promised will come to pass.
8. LOVE: “Love is such an important part of God’s character that the apostle John wrote, “God is love.” This means that God holds the well-being of others as His primary concern. For a full definition of love, read 1 Corinthians 13. To see love in action, study the life of Jesus. His sacrifice on the cross for the sins of others is the ultimate act of love. God’s love is not a love of emotion but of action. His love gives freely to the object of its affection, those who choose to follow His son Jesus. ”
9. OMNIPOTENCE: Literally this word means all-powerful.
10. Self-existence: “I AM THE ONE WHO ALWAYS IS.” God has no beginning or end. He just exists.
11. SELF-SUFICIENCY: “The Bible says that God has life in Himself (see John 5:26). All other life in the universe is a gift from God. He has no needs and there is no way He can improve.”
12. JUSTICE: “The Bible says that God is just, but it is His character that defines what being just really is. He does not conform to some outside criteria. Being just brings moral equity to everyone. When there are evil acts, justice demands there be a penalty. Since God is perfect and has never done evil, no penalty would ever be necessary; however, because of His love, God paid the penalty for our evil deeds by going to the cross Himself. His justice needed to be satisfied, but He took care of it for all who will believe in Jesus. ”
13. IMMUTABILITY: This simply means that God never changes. It is why the Bible says, “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.”
14. MERCY: “Mercy is the attribute of God which disposes Him to be actively compassionate.” Since God’s justice is satisfied in Jesus, He is free to show mercy to all those who have chosen to follow Him. It will never end since it is a part of God’s nature. Mercy is the way He desires to relate to mankind, and He does so unless the person chooses to despise or ignore God at which time His justice becomes the prominent attribute.
15. ETERNITY: In some ways, this fact about God is similar to His self-existence. God always has been and will forever be, because God dwells in eternity.
16. GOODNESS: “The goodness of God is that which disposes Him to be kind, cordial, benevolent, and full of good will toward men.” This attribute of God is why He bestows all the blessing He does on His followers. God’s actions define what goodness is, and we can easily see it in the way Jesus related to the people around Him.”
17. GRACIOUS: God enjoys giving great gifts to those who love Him, even when they do not deserve it.
18. OMNIPRESCIENCE: This theological term means “always present.” Since God is infinite, His being knows no boundaries. So, clearly He is everywhere!
Then to comparing from Allah’s, Islam’s spiritual and personal human guide called the Koran.
Islam considers free will as a godly attribute that only Allah possess…..Islam’s followers are to submit to Allah…..for Allah and his prophet, Mohammad are the only ones to convey attributes to fit Islam’s agenda. I have made no attempt to list some of Islam’s attributes, for there are far too many to list and they are not consistent to their cause/usefulness.
Interestingly, the “Love me first and I’ll love you back” kind of love exhibited by Allah in the Qur’an is condemned by Jesus in Matthew 5:43-48:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? Therefore you are to be perfect; as you’re heavenly Father is perfect.” Thanks to God’s gift: Of His GODLY IMAGE we have received!
simpleton says
Hear hear,
That is how Father Zachaira presents himself, with love and concern for muslims and how Mohammad portrays his ideology through the koran hadiths and sira.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=father+zakaria+botros
At some stage, (when I have time) I would like to collate and organize those videos, so that it is easier to find at different levels and themes. That powerful knowledge will become a great tool.
It may seem like entertainment and almost comedic (and now again we need a laugh) but gives a learning, with a deeper understanding with consideration of where a muslim is at. Perhaps with that also it will mean that debate and discussion with some muslims may be more effective.
He also gives a great back stop for Christians to be able to remain firm and hold to their faith while discussing things with others and secular people.
For others who may be more secular, they should be able to see that Zakaria in treating muslims gives great respect for their human rights, yet is very challenging to their leader and his ideology.
Donovan Nuera says
Well, Scientology is a “religion” that is followed by many people….why don’t the schools devote equal time to that religion? Any instruction in Juadaism?
Katnis says
An estimated 270 million people have been murdered by Islamic Jihadists over the past 1400 years, slaughtering those unwilling to embrace their so-called religion like animals, far surpassing the death toll of Communism and Naziism combined.
(insert sarcasm) But who cares about facts? 1B+ people can’t be wrong. islam needs to be taught to our children and deserves protection under the US Constitution.
simpleton says
Great teaching resources is right here, alongside the koran, hadith, siras, Reliance of the Traveler.
One can find over 200 video’s on Utube where Father Zacheria Boutros has interviews, and his study of the koran, hadiths and sira.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=father+zakaria+botros
All done with great love and consideration for every one.
A collating and organising of these videos would be great from interviews to his lectures so that series suitable for age and subject would flow well.
Great entertainment, that is very informative and so becomes a great learning tool
Almost any one of them would keep a class totally enthralled.
After all when a pupil puts his hand up to be excused to go to the bathroom, he will know how to enter and leave, whether left foot or right foot.
What the left hand or right hand should do or not do?
Then lessons from the compass, which way to face, forward or backward? what other uses may be for stones. In the modern world please do not block the plumbing system.
I wish that one day the utube series may be collated and then broadcast in interesting segments on our tv and radio. Maybe something we can do, even individually, so as able to show family and friends,perhaps to even a wider audience.
Free speech for all, and we must maintain and preserve it
Edward says
“The enemy within”
Here’s one of many, this one based at the Center for Muslim-Jewish Engagement housed at the University of Southern California, Los Angeles.
A Partnership between the Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion, Omar Ibn Al Khattab Foundation, & USC Center for Religion and Civic Culture.
This organization has produced a treatise that seems to legitimize the Jihad movement. Link to that document @:
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/articles/jihad-struggle.php
The Jewish component of the Jewish Institute of Religion I’m sure has been organized by a staunch liberal Jewish group. One would think that Jews and Muslims wouldn’t be considered the best of bedfellows, but I would guess they have bonded strongly because of their ideology resonates at the right frequency.
BTW, The Omar Foundation has also sponsored and hosted Muslim–Jewish dialogues and is represented on the Los Angeles Unified School District’s Human Relations Council and the Advisory Board of Days of Dialogue.
So, we see, how and know by whom the portals of academia are opened by….. Liberalism the scourge of our country! Liberal academia is the conduit that will introduce the damaging influence to our country’s health!
mortimer says
What happened to the SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?
I guess that doesn’t include the separation of the MOSQUE AND STATE, huh?
In Islam, the mosque and state are UNITED and INSEPARABLE.
mortimer says
“teaching students that Allah is the same God worshipped by Christians”
Huh??? No Christian can accept that Allah is the same as ‘Jehovah’…a name that appears almost 7,000 times in the Old Testament. Moreover, the genocidal Allah hates Christians and Jews and moronically states that they are polytheists.
The Koran is too unintelligent, incoherent, disjointed, disorganized and contradictory to have been written by a single, healthy human, let alone by an all-knowing, superintelligent Supreme Being. The Koran is moronic.
The author (or authors) of the Koran are totally unaware of ‘Jehovah’ and unaware of the essential Christian doctrine of the Trinity…therefore the two deities cannot possibly be the same…the claim that they are the same is simply an unfounded assertion without any substance whatsoever.
There are too many and too great theological differences between Allah and Jehovah to highlight here. Only a naive person totally lacking in theological understanding could make the claim that they are ‘the same’.
The school curriculum is seriously flawed and creates an establishment of religion by giving Islam greater authority than other faiths.
K. from Germany says
“—and teaching students that Allah is the same God worshipped by Christians.”
Are they teaching Muslims the same?
A. T. Halmay says
When the state fails to protect its citizens, the citizens must act on their own. It would be perfectly appropriate for parents of these children to determine who in the school system has approved or arranged for these studies and then visit them and deal with them harshly. When school officials then get approached by Muslim fifth columnists and are offered money to do their bidding they will have to consider their personal safety before selling out the community.
Dacritic says
Er… Christians worship Jesus. Muslims don’t. The sooner Obama goes, the better. The US needs a next president who dares to stand up to Islam in order to save itself… and probably the world.
Peggy says
Sadly the next US president will be just as sympathetic to Islam.
Who do you think either party will put forward?