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Islamic State group in Egypt claims it downed Russian airliner, killing 224 people

Oct 31, 2015 12:33 pm By Robert Spencer

This claim may or may not be true. It may simply be intended to give the Islamic State the appearance of greater reach and power than it actually has. After all, as Muhammad said, war is deceit.

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“IS group in Egypt claims it downed Russian airliner,” AFP, October 31, 2015 (thanks to Steve):

Cairo (AFP) – The Islamic State group’s affiliate in Egypt has claimed it downed the Russian passenger plane that crashed Saturday in the Sinai Peninsula, where the jihadists are waging an insurgency, killing all on board.

“The soldiers of the caliphate succeeded in bringing down a Russian plane in Sinai,” said the statement circulated on social media.

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  1. Aron says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    IT CAN BE TRUE- JOE BIDEN SUPPLIED THE ANTI-AIRCRAFT MISSILES IN A HURRY LAST WEEK TO THE ‘MODERATE REBELS’ THAT IS AL QAEDA

    In an atmosphere when Jihad groups of every kind had bombed out and seething with rage-Joe Biden came on TV and said he would hurry anti-aircraft missiles to Syria’s opposition groups, read Al Qaeda!

    The Genius Joe Biden didnt pause to reflect- what if they fired them at Passenger air crafts?
    Since all groups are Islamists and incurred heavy casualties- Al Qaeda would have simply received Joe Biden’s anti-aircraft missiles and given it to Sinai Jihadi groups in Egypt.

    Al Qaeda is not stupid like american media to now claim the hit on Russian civilian craft and put an end at once to all the weapons including missiles its receiving from CIA.
    So ISIS claims responsibility on their behalf. So supplies will continue and media wont even ask this vital question.

    Later Al Qaeda will claim responsibility when American or Western civilian airliners are hit and brought down.

    Joe Biden is responsible for this and future downing of Civilian passenger planes, if CIA had already given such missiles to Syrian ‘Rebels’ aka Al Qaeda.

    • Christianblood says

      Oct 31, 2015 at 1:18 pm

      Americans have been in bed with Islamic jihadists for decades arming them and training them to fight Russia and backing the Taliban, Al-Qaida, Bin-Laden, the Chechnyan jihadists and jihadists in the Balkans, in Egypt and in Libya and they are doing the same thing in the M.E today, there is nothing new here.

      • nicu says

        Oct 31, 2015 at 1:21 pm

        And they still want a war against Russia – in Europe of course !

        • Christianblood says

          Oct 31, 2015 at 1:27 pm

          You are right and the sad thing is that American and Western societies are not aware of these facts. They are more interested in watching and reading about Cathlyn Jener
          “transgendering” into a woman than these crucial global issues.

        • Annak says

          Oct 31, 2015 at 2:26 pm

          And as our armies have been whittled down ( purposely) they will eventually ” request “voluntary ” manpower from the male citizens, and with little response will demand it…..a military draft, ?
          Make no mistake about it Europeans, they want our sons, dads and husbands !
          ( and us women unarmed with kids and older men and women , half of them elderly, here and with millions of muslims migrant/” refugees” to boot, who wont be drafted…)

  2. Christianblood says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    May be those American-allied barbaric islamic jihadists (ISIS or others) used some kind of American-made SAM missile technology to bring down this Russian airliner.

    • More Ham Ed says

      Oct 31, 2015 at 1:51 pm

      Yeah, the U.S. wrote the unholy ko ‘ran too doncha know.

      • Christianblood says

        Oct 31, 2015 at 5:10 pm

        America’s evil actions and it is wholehearted support for genocidal islamic jihadists for decades speak volumes of what America actually is all about.
        You will know a tree by its fruit!

        • Angemon says

          Oct 31, 2015 at 5:26 pm

          Oh, we’ve seen the fruits of communism in Europe. And we’ve had more than enough, thank you very much – keep Stalin and the other genocidal maniacs for yourselves.

        • Aron says

          Oct 31, 2015 at 5:27 pm

          PILOT MADE NO SOS CALLS- NEVER RADIOED ‘TECHNICAL PROBS’

          So where and how did that report come from?

          Well- Egypt wouldnt admit Terror strike that affects Tourism Industry
          Putin cant admit Russian civilians are paying for his Military Strikes to his Opposition

          So its getting interesting- http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34689870

          On Saturday morning, Egyptian aviation official Ayman el-Mokadem, who the country’s media say is heading an investigation into the crash, said flight KGL9268 had asked to land early because of a technical failure.
          But Mr Kamal told a press conference this was not the case.
          “Up until the crash happened, we were never informed of any faults in the plane, nor did we receive any SOS calls,” he said.
          All contact with air traffic control had been normal, and pre-flight checks showed no problems, he added.

      • albert says

        Nov 1, 2015 at 7:49 am

        I wouldn’t go as far as blaming US for everything but, Joe Biden and John McCain both called for anti aircraft missiles to be supplied to the Jihadis, there are news clips on youtube showing this, and who can deny that Putin has done more to damage ISIS in a few weeks than Obama has done since the whole sorry mess started.

  3. wildjew says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    PRESIDENT OBAMA: ‘NO RELIGION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR VIOLENCE AND TERRORISM’

  4. wildjew says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    Dozer Blade · Works at Retired

    IF !!!! And I say if in fact ISIS, did this,, It’ll be a day they regret , for certain, Putin ain’t obozo, he’ll rain pure hell down on them, now

    Unlike · Reply · 8 · 1 hr

    Islamic State in Egypt claims it brought down Russian plane; 224 dead

    Terror group hails success, although Sinai officials say technical failure led to crash; Russia rejects claim

    BY TIMES OF ISRAEL STAFF AND AP October 31, 2015, 4:42 pm 7

  5. Will says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    The airliner was at 30,000ft which is far out of the range of any existing MANPADS (that’s shoulder launched missile for those of you with no knowledge of military tech.).

    Only a SAM system could bring an airliner like that down and as far as I know, IS in Egypt don’t have anything like that.

    Could it be muslims telling lies?? Inconceivable!

    • spot on says

      Oct 31, 2015 at 4:15 pm

      Did we give anti aircraft missile batteries to Syrian rebels?

      An onboard suicide bomber maybe?

  6. nicu says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    Thank god Putin is no pussy .

    But all this crap will bring is WW3 sooner or later .(

    • whocares says

      Oct 31, 2015 at 4:28 pm

      my first comment didn’t went through…. anyway.

      Putin and his party has biggest % in elections in islamic part of country where almost no russian people alive nowdays…… in place where was unrecognized genocide of russian people not long ago.

      He recently added one more law to protect islamic texts from critics…. law that makes religious books “immune” – now quotes from them can’t be examined and called as “extremists” materials anymore by law.

      Also there is law that can give more years in prison for “spreading hate to religion and races” that can result in time in prison that is more than murders and rapists of russian people actually get.

      Movements against illegal immigration are banned…. last one was called… “Russians”.

      And there is huge brainwashing company going on… i remember seeing “don’t be ill with racism” poster right the day after i seen news about murder of another (under 18 y.o.) russian girl by immigrant from islamic country. Religion and race of criminals and most times are hidden in media.
      Actually about crimes…. today i seen article about another “guest” with islamic origin raped, beaten and robed (money and phone)…… blind girl…..

      This is russian reality. And there is no Geert Wilders or Allen West or Gavin Boby here…. and there is no hope here too. It just turns worse and worse every day.

      • Mazo says

        Oct 31, 2015 at 8:01 pm

        Remember that the Yazidi mafia in your country is notorious for pimping and trafficking underage Russian girls.

        An Italian mafia boss from Sicily would cower in fear of a Yazidi mafia godfather from Moscow’s underworld.

        • Angemon says

          Oct 31, 2015 at 8:27 pm

          You need to be coherent and consistent, mazo. First it was one Yazidi that did well in the Russian mafia, but eventually there was no Russian mafia and only Yazidi mafia. Make up your damn mind!

        • whocares says

          Oct 31, 2015 at 8:58 pm

          Don’t say such things about Italian mafia ….. anyway.

          I just wanted to tell about real situation in russia.

          Like i said there is no people like Geert Wilders in politics … its absolutely impossible to address problems that he points out… . Not long ago one dude from radio was stabbed near own house many many times with scissors in same day he talked something bad about self-proclamed “religion of peace”. Its horrible to life here.
          And our leader definitely don’t want to get some more time for us by slowing islamisation process. Its protected by laws and by media and by of opened borders with near islamic countries.

          That new law that protects religion from being examined as something that is extremists and can inspire hate to for example “infidels” and supremacy upon others….. it was designed to “protect” islam…. it appeared right after there was one small attempt to examine it and after there was opened treats to person who wanted to do such examination. Basically another law that protected religious “bullies” and not real victims.

        • Mazo says

          Nov 1, 2015 at 12:03 am

          There are many ethnic mafias in Russia. There is Chechen mafia, Yazidi mafia, Azeri mafia, Armenian mafia, Jewish mafia, Georgian mafia.

          They all engage in drug trafficking, extortion, money laundering, and grooming underage Russian girls to traffick and pimp as prostitutes.

          There are Tajik and Dagestani gangs who go around stabbing people and selling drugs.

          Yazidis are not Muslims, and their mafia also likes pimping and selling Russian girls, trafficking weapons, and drugs.

          Many Yazidis in Russia and Georgia are proud of their mafia and take pride in the fact that they intimidate Russians and other peoples.

          Some Yazidis uploaded a tribute video to their infamous mafia godfather Aslan Usoyan.

          https://www.youtube .com/watch?v=8KXoKw0Wynw

          Yazidis have a stringent patriarchial, honor based culture. They don’t let their girls date or marry non-Yazidis, they do honor killings on girls who try to date non Yazidi boys, they marry their daughters off young and are conservative.

          Other Caucasus peoples like Chechens and Dagestanis behave similarly.

        • Angemon says

          Nov 1, 2015 at 7:57 am

          Mazo posted:

          “There are many ethnic mafias in Russia. There is Chechen mafia, Yazidi mafia, Azeri mafia, Armenian mafia, Jewish mafia, Georgian mafia.”

          That so totally doesn’t explain why you went from “this one Yazidi made it big in the Russian Mafia” to “the Yazidi Mafia”.

          Do tell – what are the big names in the Yazidi mafia? How does it stack again the Russian mafia? Where does it operate? I’d like to knew that.

          And, of course, you disingenuously left out the muslim mafia. How quaint…

          “Some Yazidis uploaded a tribute video to their infamous mafia godfather Aslan Usoyan.”

          Who is dead and buried, and was part of the Russian mafia, not of the alleged Yazidi mafia. Shouldn’t he be decried for joining the Russian mafia rather than the Yazidi mafia? Also, how many are “some”? Are they representative of the Yazidi community as a whole?

        • Jay Boo says

          Nov 1, 2015 at 1:09 am

          @Mazo
          Do other (ETHNIC) — peoples like Chechens and Dagestanis just by coincidence happen to adhere to sharia law?

        • Mazo says

          Nov 1, 2015 at 1:18 am

          They adhere to their own adat.

          Chechens don’t practice cousin marriage because it is against their tradition even though it is permitted in Islam.

        • Aron says

          Nov 1, 2015 at 2:33 am

          Isis had used Guided missiles to attack Naval vessels in Sinai in July 2015.

          IS missile hits Egyptian ship near Sinai
          The Islamic State, taking responsibility, said the ship was hit by a guided missile.

          http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/07/16/IS-missile-hits-Egyptian-ship-near-Sinai/1891437057175/?spt=sec&or=tn

          Last Week Egyptian air strikes killed 25 Islamists.
          The SAM missiles could have been requested against Egyptian air force and given to them by ISIS and donors, or from Gaddafi’s armory haul.
          In return they would have been asked to down a Russian passenger liner flying over sinai.

          The argument that ISIS doesnt have such advanced heavy weapons is not factual.

  7. DeMolay says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 1:22 pm

    They just can’t stop lying

  8. Don McKellar says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    It’s one proven liar’s word against another proven liar’s word. We’ll never know what really happened without an independent forensic examination.

  9. eduardo odraude says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    I guess ISIS assumes Russia’s response will be restrained or “proportionate.” ISIS might now be in for a nasty and ongoing surprise.

  10. underbed cat says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    This is a hearbreaking and horrible loss of life event, but one that could almost be predicted once Russia came to the aid of Assad. It is almost a sharia modis operandi of isis, to strike terror into Russia, for revenge in my opinion. I do hope Russian, Israeli investigators and techs are allowed into the crash site quickly.

    • Godwin says

      Oct 31, 2015 at 3:19 pm

      I think IDF should know if a missile was fired at the plane.

  11. Angemon says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    “The soldiers of the caliphate succeeded in bringing down a Russian plane in Sinai,” said the statement circulated on social media.

    And if we can’t trust the people whose model of perfect human being reportedly said “war is deceit”, who can we trust? I’m going to go with “Nope” until further evidence – for all I know, the islamic state can be simply trying to save face due to the Russian bombing campaign. Remember, this is an organization working under the “allah is with us, therefore we’ll succeed” concept – it would be harder to recruit volunteers if they started getting pounded and didn’t react in any way or fashion.

  12. somehistory says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    If it is proven that they did not do it…first, isis won’t admit it was proven they lied about doing it, and second, if they did finally admit in the face of evidence they didn’t do it, that would establish them as liars, which we all know lying is in their islam DNA;to be mosliim is to lie, and so therefore, they will not admit to lying.

    If it is proven that they lied about it, they will continue to lie about it and say that the investigators lied about it and denied the truth of their lie that they brought down the plane.

    If they did do it, then that means they can do it and will do it again. If they lied about it, they will lie again, as usual.

  13. Aron says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    SURFACE TO AIR MISSILES SNATCHED FROM GADDAFI’S ARMORY DELIVERED BY CIA TO SYRIAN ISLAMIST REBELS

    Several mainstream papers carried reports as early as 2013 about how CIA operatives delivered advanced weaponry such as Surface to Air Missiles to Syrian ‘moderate rebels’ ie Al Nusra of Al qaeda.

    It is too much of coincidence a Russian Passenger plane goes down just above Sinai’s Jihad hotbed.
    Too much of coincidence barely a fortnight after Joe Biden announces he is ‘rushing anti aircraft missiles’ to his allies ie Al Qaeda in Syria.

    The only two reasons that run counter to suspecting a Terrorist downing of this Russian airliner are-

    1. Pilot allegedly talking about ‘technical problems’ just before plane went off radar and Radio contact.
    This is still subject to revision- and vague. A missile ploughing on his star board could still be that ‘technical problem’.

    2. Report suggesting Plane was above 36,000 feet when it had problems.

    The argument being, only SAMs or Surface to Air Missiles can acquire targets flying at such altitudes- and the Syrian ‘rebels’ (sic) ie Al; Qaeda dont have SAM missiles.

    Thats wrong presumption. Gaddafi’s arsenals were transferred to Al Qaeda Syrian rebels as early as 2013 and specefically such SAM missiles.
    Here’s the link-

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/10218288/CIA-running-arms-smuggling-team-in-Benghazi-when-consulate-was-attacked.html –

    Up to 35 CIA operatives were working in the city during the attack last September on the US consulate that resulted in the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, according to CNN.” […]

    The television network said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels. Sources said that more Americans were hurt in the assault spearheaded by suspected Islamic radicals than had been previously reported. CIA chiefs were actively working to ensure the real nature of its operations in the city did not get out. So only the losses suffered by the State Department in the city had been reported to Congress.

    Gaddafi had state of the art Surface to air missiles.

    Thats right- ‘ The television network said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.

    COULD THEY HAVE ADVANCED MISSILES TO DOWN A PASSENGER PLANE?

    Read this-
    Washington Post, May 15, 2012:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/syrian-rebels-get-influx-of-arms-with-gulf-neighbors-money-us-coordination/2012/05/15/gIQAds2TSU_story.html

    Syrian rebels battling the regime of President Bashar al-Assad have begun receiving significantly more and better weapons in recent weeks, an effort paid for by Persian Gulf nations and coordinated in part by the United States, according to opposition activists and U.S. and foreign officials. […]

    Material is being stockpiled in Damascus, in Idlib near the Turkish border and in Zabadani on the Lebanese border. Opposition activists who two months ago said the rebels were running out of ammunition said this week that the flow of weapons — most still bought on the black market in neighboring countries or from elements of the Syrian military — has significantly increased after a decision by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other gulf states to provide millions of dollars in funding each month. Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood also said it has opened its own supply channel to the rebels, using resources from wealthy private individuals and money from gulf states, including Saudi Arabia and Qatar, said Mulham al-Drobi, a member of the Brotherhood’s executive committee.

    • Christianblood says

      Oct 31, 2015 at 6:15 pm

      Thanks Aron!
      It is very likely that those American-allied barbaric islamic jihadists (ISIS or others) used some kind of American-supplied SAM missile technology to bring down this Russian airliner.

  14. Aron says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    The Times, September 14, 2012:

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/middleeast/article3537770.ece

    A Libyan ship carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria since the uprising began has docked in Turkey and most of its cargo is making its way to rebels on the front lines, The Times has learnt. Among more than 400 tons of cargo the vessel was carrying were SAM-7 surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), which Syrian sources said could be a game-changer for the rebels.

  15. Jeremiah says

    Oct 31, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    These aircraft fly just south of Israel. Perhaps Israel can offer to have them land in Tel Aviv for a coffee and safety?

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