This is still not conclusive: skeptics point out that the Islamic State video is unclear, and that the jihadis released still photos of the wrong plane crash. Nonetheless, all part of the effort to “strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah” (Qur’an 8:60). Even if the Islamic State had nothing to do with the crash, it will serve that purpose for the jihadis.
“WATCH: ISIS Claims Video Shows Them Shooting Down Russian Plane Flight 9268,” by Sam Prince, Heavy, October 31, 2015:
The Islamic State is claiming a video and photos that have gone viral on Twitter shows them shooting down Metrojet Flight 7K9268 over Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula….However, others were quick to refute that claim because the video is not clear and the photos show the wrong plane.
But it sounds like that technical issues are at fault for the crash. The Independent reports:
Security sources have said that there was no indication of an attack and technical issues, which were reported by the pilot, were responsible for the accident.
There were 224 guests on the Metrojet Flight 7K9268 from Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, to St. Petersburg, Russia, including 17 children. The plane was split in two.
The plane requested an emergency landing and there are reports of some crew members noting a problem with one of the engines. The Egyptian civil aviation ministry said the plane was at an altitude of 31,000 feet when it disappeared off the radar right after it reportedly began descending at a rate of 6,000 feet per minute, according to the New York Times.
ploome says
So maybe ISIS found a way to damage the plane while it was on the ground.
Don McKellar says
It’s one proven liar’s word against another proven liar’s word. We’re never going to know what exactly happened with an independent third party forensic investigation.
Don McKellar says
not “with” … WITHOUT
Dr. Divinity says
Yup.liar.liar pants on fire
Westman says
At crusing altitude the plane would simply be a dot in the sky and not appear as in the ISIS video.
The wreckage is spread out, indicating a high-altitude breakup. A more likely scenario is a fire in the cargo hold, deliberate or accidental, or a spontaneous breakup of a fatigued airframe. The aircraft had landed at least 21,000 times. There was a plane some years ago that had the top of the cabin shear off due to fatigue, resulting in the loss of life. This could simply be another stress failure with worse results. If it was sabotage, the Russians are likely to step up anti-militant warfare.
Angemon says
Any devout muslim would immediately recognize that as lies made up by DA JOOOOOOSSSSS to make the islamic state look bad. sarc./ off…
Also, is it just me, or the video linked to on this article is a wordpress tutorial video?
marc says
try refreshing the page, should be fixed.
Angemon says
It is, thank you very much 🙂
AnneCrockett says
Whether they brought it down or just took credit after the fact, the idea that murder and destruction is something to take “credit” for is in and of itself appalling.
Godwin says
Aljareera had reported that the pilot went down without sending a distress signal. Either it was shot down, or some one had planted a bomb.inside the plane.
Phobic-ist says
….or maybe the pilot crashed it himself? Not unknown
Emma says
So much hatred from these people and they constantly speak in the name of “god” while violating The 10 Commandments!
Michael Copeland says
Islamic State explained, when demolishing the tomb of St. Elian at the Mar Elian monastery, they did so because it was dedicated to a god other than Allah.
whocares says
They have different god…. and different “commands”. For example:
Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
Quran (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah”
Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”
Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves”
Quran (47:35) – “Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost”
There are more such things in their “holy book”…. but you get the idea.
Dacritic says
“Hey you Muslim hater! Don’t you know that context is very important when you quote those verses from the Quran?? Don’t you know that regarding Surah 8:12, it was about the Battle of Badr and that the Muslims are only fighting in defence because the Meccans wanted to attack them??” (Meanwhile conveniently leaving out the “context” argument for all the other violent verses. Oh please also look at 9:5, 9:73, and 9:111).
And then when we check the background regarding the Batte of Badr (horror of horrors!), it was the Muslims who wanted to rob a Meccan caravan in the first place and then instigated fighting by drying out some wells.
Classic Muslim “debate” tactic.
whocares says
Like i said……”there are more such things in their “holy book”:”
Quran (9:5)
“And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”
Quran (9:73) “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.”
Quran (9:111) “Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.”
Sherry says
I think Obomber wrote the Quran It wasn’t written by God, God is of Grace and Peace and Love, the Quran was written by the devil…..
Tony Bertrand says
they have no ten commandments in the book from hell aka koran. They have a lot about killing infidels and jews. They are experts at destruction and killing that is all
BlueRaven says
Based on the information available, the ISIS and their supporters are lying about this. That is no news, because these evil heart filled SOBs have no remorse. If the aircraft was shot down, the pilot couldn’t had time to radio back some malfunction information and request to land. The malfunctioned component was a flight critical component for obvious reasons. Another point, they are finding aircraft parts and dead bodies on the ground. There are no foreign bits found belonging to anything else.
However, there is a possibility that while on the ground, an ISIS member may have tweaked something that would make the aircraft lose speed when reached its ascend to cruising speed altitude.
Islam and its followers are full of bull.
Ashley says
This is still a raw and developing story. I’m not sure I trust that the pilot reported a mechanical malfunction and requested to make an emergency landing. An authenticated recording of the pilot’s request and/or retrieval of the black box would go a long way in convincing me this was the result of a catastrophic mechanical failure.
The video is grainy…and what is with that awful chanting?
ISIS is renowned to claim responsibility for tragedies…nothing new or shocking on that front.
At an altitude of 30,000 feet, I don’t see how the plane could have been shot down. A bomb on board? Was the aircraft tampered with while grounded?
I agree with others who believe an independent investigation is warranted.
Anonymous says
Tired of this “striking terror in the hearts of the disbelievers” crap. Terror works until it doesn’t.
I’m thinking maybe the world has had enough of being terrified and is ready to put the terror right back into the hearts and minds of the terrorists.
P. Smith says
Islam will win. Wherever there is a muslim, a Quran there is potential muslim terrorism and muslim takeover. But western politicians silence any criticism of Islam, closing business, arresting people, firing people from their jobs…etc. On the contrary western politicians are bussy flooding the entire world with muslim migrants. Even America has already millions of LEGAL muslim migrants, and that´s fine for Trump. At last it seems that Mohammad was smater than Rousseau, Voltaire, Johamn Adams, Abraham Lincoln…etc
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
When you combat takeover aggression with fairness and tolerance, you alternate between closing your eyes and deluding yourself and taking the shotgun and shooting yourself in the foot. It’s not a fair fight because the self-delusional won’t even admit he’s in one. To help ensure the outcome, the self-delusional even puts a roof over the aggressor’s head and puts food on his table. After all a guy’s gotta eat, and the aggressor is busy with other things besides making good his personal responsibilities.
P. Smith says
Thanks to American money and guns brought to the “rebels”
More Ham Ed says
Obama money, liberal money.
Angemon says
You mean, other people’s money.
whocares says
American taxpayer’s money….. afghanistan is repeating…..
Last time it was Reagan…. now it is Hussein in charge.
More Ham Ed says
I did intend to indicate disagreement with U.S. tax dollars being given to Islamists of any kind, anywhere, at any time. The OP sounded like a blanket statement so I felt compelled to post a response.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
You mean, other people’s money.
OPM is an easy sell because there are more voters without it than with it. When Karl Marx published Das Kapital in 1867, it was known to be based on faked up numbers, the book was a fraud. But the attraction of OPM is irresistible, the easiest possible mass marketing job. Islam being with the Holy Prophet offering OPM, along with Other People’s Women (and young girls) during his run of over 80 unprovoked attacks on pagan Arabs and Jews, which later extended up into the Holy Land and Byzantium to take from the Christians. It is cold comfort that the Holy Ko-Ran is also a fraud.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
You mean, other people’s money.
OPM is an easy sell because there are more voters without it than with it. When Karl Marx published Das Kapital in 1867, it was known to be based on faked up numbers, where he artfully changed the fact that the measured decades in his study from the fact that the industrial revolution increased the prosperity to that it made them poorer, they were exploited. He drummed up fake numbers to fit his conclusion; the book was a fraud. But the attraction of OPM is irresistible, the easiest possible mass marketing job.
Islam being with the Holy Prophet offering OPM, along with Other People’s Women (and young girls) during his run of over 80 unprovoked attacks on pagan Arabs and Jews, which later extended up into the Holy Land and Byzantium to take from the Christians. It is cold comfort that the Holy Ko-Ran is also a fraud.
SoCalMike says
Maybe they used one of the SAMs Obama and Joe Biden have been so generously delivering to them.
You know those Syrian “moderates” who keep giving those weapons to the Islamic State.
The same ones Obama and Kerry armed who overran the former ally army Obama refused to garrison.
Ya those very same “moderates.”
Jeremiah says
You don’t need Jeremiah to tell you that flying over war zones is not a good idea. Why give ISIS the satisfaction?
ebola says
10 28. 2015
A new Ebola case arrived today. A refugee arrived with Ebola from West Africa.
The Ebola patient arrived on a commercial airline with fellow travelers from Guinea West Africa to Lisbon he then took a public bus to La Coruna.
So far this week there are 9 new Ebola cases in Guinea West Africa the hometown of the newly arrived West African refugee.
The Ebola patient arrived at the Emergency University Hospital Complex of Coruna
http://www.ebolaoutbreakmap.com/listings/october-28-2015-new-ebola-case-today/
The_Templar says
This morning, the minster of Egypt said there have been no SOS signal at all send ot by the pilot. Wich is a total contradict what was said yesterday. This could make the “shooting down” of the plane more likely!
The one thing I dont understand is that a couple of hours after the crash everybody told us it was not shot down without any knowlegde about what the black boxes tell…
Godwin says
IDF should know whether it was shot down.
Baucent says
Way too early to say if foul play had a part in this crash. The video is junk, there’s no way they could film the aircraft at 31,000 feet. The video shows a light aircraft or drone. Once the investigators look at the wreckage they should be able to determine if a bomb was involved. Early indications are maintenance issues may have played a part, everything is speculation before that.
Ashley says
I agree with your comment. Now that the black boxes have been recovered, here’s hoping we receive some straight answers.
I’m not digging these conflicting reports that the pilot transmitted a distress call with other reports asserting that no distress call was sent. Surely such a matter can be easily confirmed or denied. Either the recording exists or it doesn’t.
I don’t know what to make of the video. My eyesight is poor…I don’t see any sort of external strike. If in fact this is determined to be an act of terrorism, I would suspect a bomb.
My thoughts and prayers to the victims and their loved ones…
Bob Smyth says
If it is shown that ISIS shot down the Russian jet, then we can look forward to Russian special forces conducting targetted killing operations against each and every ISIS jihadi involved (and probably also their families).
Logoman says
Flt 9268 broke up at 31,000 ft. This aircraft is much lower. I’m sure this is a bogus claim by ISIS. Guess we’ll see once data from black boxes gets released – if we can trust the Russians to give us the truth.
Duane says
It would appear lower than in actually is if the camera operator/video editor was zooming in. The quality of the video suggests that’s a possibility. I suspect it was a suicide bomber that was either able to get on the plane or plant something in the cargo hold. Cameraman seemed to know it was going to happen. Just awful.