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Oregon imam: Fight “against Americans” is “legitimate jihad”

Oct 1, 2015 7:45 am By Robert Spencer

Mohamed Sheikh Abdirahman Kariye is the imam of the largest mosque in Portland, Oregon. It is good that all this has come to light, but is anyone paying any attention to the other Muslims who heard Kariye preach week after week for years? How many other jihadis are in the Portland area? What is being taught at Masjed As-Saber now?

Mohamed Sheikh Abdirahman Kariye2

“Imam told Portland Seven that combat against U.S. was ‘legitimate jihad,’ court papers say,” by Bryan Denson, The Oregonian, September 30, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

The imam of Portland’s biggest mosque collected money from worshippers after 9/11, sending the Portland Seven to Afghanistan to fight against coalition forces, the U.S. Department of Justice alleges in its fight to deport the imam.

Arguments between lawyers for Mohamed Sheikh Abdirahman Kariye and the Justice Department reveal new details of the government’s legal maneuvers to strip the imam of his citizenship.

As religious leader of Masjed As-Saber, Kariye told several members of the plot that “Muslims should fight with fellow Muslim brothers of Afghanistan against Americans” and that this combat was a “righteous fight … legitimate jihad,” Justice Department lawyers wrote in an exhibit filed earlier this month in the immigration case.

“Kariye was present when members of the Portland Seven left to go wage jihad, and he wished them good luck on their journey,” according to an exhibit filed earlier this month in the government’s lawsuit to strip Kariye of his citizenship.

The imam was never charged with any crime related to the Portland Seven. While people who prayed in his mosque were sentenced to prison for their roles in the failed plot, Kariye’s only U.S. criminal conviction came in 2003, when he got probation for understating his income to qualify for state healthcare benefits and using a Social Security card with a false birth date.

Kariye’s lawyers, Nicole Nelson and Philip James Smith, have filed papers seeking to dismiss the government’s lawsuit on jurisdictional grounds. They argue that federal law requires the U.S. attorney to file such a complaint, not the team from the Justice Department’s Office of Immigration Litigation in Washington, D.C.

Government lawyers Benjamin G. Mizer, William C. Peachey and Christopher W. Dempsey argued in a response filed earlier this month that the law allows them to represent the U.S. in filing the complaint to strip Kariye of his naturalization.

U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown is expected to rule on the dueling motions, but it’s unclear when.

Brown presides in another civil complaint involving Kariye: He is one of several plaintiffs in a lawsuit that accuses the FBI and its Terrorist Screening Center of violating the constitutional rights of those placed on the U.S. no-fly list, including him….

Kariye is playing the victim? What a surprise.

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  1. ich says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 8:10 am

    ” he got probation for understating his income to qualify for state healthcare benefits and using a Social Security card with a false birth date..”

    WOW is the USA now UK ?

    Muslims are sooooooooooooo dishonest

    And I hope I am not the only one who thinks this but why do
    they all look scary ?!

    Eeeeeks

    I wouldnt want to go near these people , Islamaphobic or not.

  2. Angemon says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 8:18 am

    Kariye’s lawyers, Nicole Nelson and Philip James Smith, have filed papers seeking to dismiss the government’s lawsuit on jurisdictional grounds. They argue that federal law requires the U.S. attorney to file such a complaint, not the team from the Justice Department’s Office of Immigration Litigation in Washington, D.C.

    Translation: “We’re not going to deny any of the charges made, but those charges should have been made by someone else, therefore our client should be free to go and preach jihad against you”

  3. jayell says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 8:19 am

    “Oregon imam: Fight “against Americans” is “legitimate jihad”…” So ‘fighting against’ the citizens of a country within their own territory is ‘legitimate’ is it? Isn’t this the rationale of an invading army? Therefore essentially a declaration of war? Or would it be classed as ‘treason’? After the declaration of war in 1939, German nationals who were still in the UK were arrested as ‘enemy aliens’ and detained in camps. Shouldn’t the authorities be doing something like this here, even though this character has all the ‘paperwork’ (which would seem to be fraudulant now, since he has clearly declared himself to be an ‘enemy’)?

  4. concerned canadian says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 8:21 am

    I am so surprised that gangsters ( like happening in uk now ) , bikers , militia groups
    have not took it upon themselves to eliminate the riff raff.

    I can see it happening.

    • Don McKellar says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 11:55 am

      They will as the situation worsens. In the UK they are moving towards an eventual civil war. The problem in the United States is that Obama has taken a preemptive strike against the FBI when it comes to Islamic supremacists and washed their operations manuals and protocol as much as possible to eliminate the ability to study and understand the motivations and philosophy and game plan of the Islamic supremacists (which is Islam, obviously). So the FBI can keep a lid on and combat those who would battle the Islamic supremacists, but ironically are blind-folded when it comes to dealing with the #1 threat both abroad and at home because Obama doesn’t want them to associate terror with Islam — which makes no sense whatsoever because Islam IS TERROR by definition!

  5. mortimer says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 11:19 am

    Mohamed Sheikh Abdirahman Kariye knows more about Islam than John Kerry, David Cameron or Barack Obama.

    Why don’t they listen to Mohamed Sheikh Abdirahman Kariye, rather than invent FAIRY TALES of the ‘religion of peace’.

    Islam is the religion of jihad. Islam is a legal religion, but the Koran should be taken to court and declared unacceptable hate speech.

  6. Don McKellar says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 11:48 am

    I just wonder how many jihad training camps there are in the wilderness areas of Oregon and the Pacific Northwest? You can be absolutely certain there are a few where they’re carrying out training and plans for the next public attack to add to those astonishing 25,000 documented and verifiable deadly jihad terror attacks since 9/11.

    When will Mohamed Sheikh Abdirahman Kariye’s crop of mad dog jihad killers be harvested to murder?

  7. خَليفة says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    Among the numerous problems with Muslims is the basic paradigm of wealth.

    Muhammed told his followers they can take land and wealth from non Muslims. Pirates vs. farmers – who creates the wealth, who steals it? Muslims are not instructed to work hard, be industrious, create new things and build wealth thru their own efforts and hard work, they believe they are entitled, that they are superior and have a right to be given jizya and can just take wealth from the kuffar.

    Normal, sane humans have a work ethic, they believe with education and hard work they can build wealth for themselves, they know the value of money and take care of things they worked hard to buy/own they neither feel superior or inferior to others, they have faith in their ability to be useful to society in a mutually benificial way. And they respect the property and rights of others.

    Muslims are pirates, they want wealth without working for it, they want respect without earning it.

    • ich says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 1:19 pm

      agreed !!

    • KnowThyEnemy says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 1:39 pm

      Nicely put. There is even a hadith to back up what you wrote-

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

      I heard the Apostle of Allah say: When you enter into the inah transaction (become businessmen), hold the tails of oxen (become cattlemen), are pleased with agriculture (become farmers), and give up conducting jihad, Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion. – Sunan Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455

      “original religion” here means jihad.

  8. livingengine says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    Masjed As-Saber, and Saba Ahmed. http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/was-fbi-grooming-portland-suspect-for-terror/

  9. David says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    I wonder if the dead “20 year old male” shooter at the Oregon College was one of his disciples?
    Throw this bum out of the country.
    Another Saudi hate/death cult Mosque?
    Time to ban all Saudi financed Mosques in US.

    • ich says

      Oct 1, 2015 at 5:20 pm

      @David…………..good point I wonder !!

    • Kaffir007 says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 3:07 am

      Notice how Obama ( the Arabian candidate ) put his 2 cents in trying to “control the narrative” – that the shooter must have had mental problems and that there needs to be better gun-control? Obama is obsessed with gun control. I bet the shooter was a Muslim or recent convert.

      Islam IS a mental disorder- if you become educated/enlightened you’d have to be crazy to remain a Muslim, if you are not a Muslim and happen to be crazy, you are easily attracted to Islam. ( Note the irony-the two main reasons muslims leave Islam are 1-they read the Quran and 2-they read a biography of Mohammad )

      Seems like Obama wants citizens to be gunless, borders to be opened, amnesty to be granted to immigrants ( even the Islamic terrorists with guns ) why? Why would some one want this?

      • ich says

        Oct 2, 2015 at 7:23 am

        Its mind blowing . Obama is messed up.
        The world is messed up.
        Islam is a curse no doubt.

  10. Krag says

    Oct 1, 2015 at 8:22 pm

    Skynet is the virus

  11. bob says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 11:00 am

    so do we citizens have to go up and fight this mosque of people who are fighting to take over usa? where do I sign up…i’m an American…these people want to fight americans…let’s fight! let the dark breed the dark…let the light breed the light…let them fight…

    • KnowThyEnemy says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 3:06 pm

      “where do I sign up…i’m an American…”

      Good question. There are multiple places that one would need to sign up –

      1) At the local voter’s registration office. Of course one would also need to start reading up on the positions of various candidates on various issues in order to know who to vote for. And once you know, you will have to actually vote, including in the primaries!

      2) Sign up and open accounts with one or more social media websites. Make friends and ‘Like’ and ‘Share’ posts with them. Be aware of what is politically correct and what is not. Always use polite language when discussing politically incorrect issues. People nowadays are such that they immediately reject non-PC messages if those are presented in aggressive/obnoxious manner. Also be aware that whatever you post on social media, especially Facebook, may actually affect you in real life (People have lost jobs and job-offers because of what they post on FB).

      3) Sign up with Act! for America and become an active member. The more people that become members of this group, the more the politicians will pay attention. Taking our message to the politicians is very important. They are the ones who have the most resources at their disposal to solve whatever problems the nation is facing.

      4) There is one more place where one would need to sign up but before I detail where that is, a brief understanding of human social psychology is important. Osama Bin Laden once said “If there is a weak horse and there is a strong horse, naturally people will like the strong horse.” Now OBL was an evil terrorist but he was right… about this nature of humans! I have a strong feeling that one of the primary reasons why people all over the world like Muslims so much is because they look like the strong horse (They are not, but their steadfastness makes them appear strong to most people).

      We will all have to sign up to become the strong horse if we are to save our countries from evil forces. Of course the immediate question is how do we become the ‘strong horse’? The way to do that is to grab a pen and a paper, and write down all the values that make a person strong (Manners, Morals, Respect, Character, Common sense, Trust, Patience, Class, Integrity, Discipline, Love, etc…. Readers are encouraged to add to this list), and also all those values and principles that make a society free (the fundamental human rights including Free Speech, freedom to religion, etc). Then pledge, in writing on paper, to live by these values and put your signature at the bottom. Post a copy of this paper on your social media account for all to see, so that they know that there is a strong horse in their social circles 🙂

      Those are the four places that I can think of so far, where one can sign up to protect freedom and liberty. Other, more learnt people, are welcome to add to this list…..It will be really appreciated.

      Notice that I did not mention signing up to buy a gun. Buying the gun part comes later, after one has mastered becoming a strong horse. It is not good to have weak horses running around with guns. We have seen enough mass shootings to know what happens when morons get their hands on guns.

  12. Az native says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 3:38 pm

    THE CURE – THE SOLUTION for the entire world:

    For 1400 years the world has endured invasions by this radical tribe. The world needs to stand up now and deliver a message to Muslims and Islam. It is a sweet and simple request for world peace.

    If Muslims truly are the tribe of peace they would self deport back to Saudi Arabia and leave the rest of the world alone because we are tired of hearing about them.

    http://dcgazette.com/take-five-minutes-watch-spread-islam-via-jihad-crusades/

    http://freepatriot.org/2013/10/29/1400-years-of-islam-most-muslims-let-alone-others-are-not-aware-of-this-history-video/

    In case the free patriot link doesn’t work because it has been blocked many times:

    Dr. Bill Warner on 1400 years of history:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

    http://www.heresyblog.net/2015/02/the-islamic-threat-to-western.html?m=1

    http://windsorcoactforamerica.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/150-million-islalmic-sharia-followers-to-america-by-2018-in-amnesty-bill/

    http://www.religiousfreedomcoalition.org/2013/09/20/muslim-man-rapes-child-bride-until-she-dies/

    http://shoebat.com/2014/03/06/muslims-rape-christian-girl-death-front-father-mother/

    http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/obama-tells-senior-un-official-the-united-states-will-be-a-muslim-country-by-2016/

    http://www.washingtonweeklynews.com/this-nation-started-sending-muslims-back-to-their-own-countries-causes-massive-drop-in-violent-crime-rate/

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2015/03/26/msnbc-guest-nothing-says-lets-go-kill-some-muslims-country-music

  13. ItsJo says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    This Muslim Terrorist WANNABE, is exactly WHY we cannot trust these people who are in America-They DO want to have ‘their Sharia Law” and NOT abide by our LAW OF THE LAND-THE CONSTITUTION. THUS, THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED FOR TRYING TO OVERTHROW “OUR COUNTRY” AND CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS. SEND THIS S OB BACK TO WHEREVER HE CAME FROM , AS HE WILL ALWAYS WANT TO DESTROY THIS REPUBLIC AND IT’S PEOPLE. WE DON’T NEED THIS SHIT-AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKING IT FROM “A CULT LIKE ISLAM.”

    • ich says

      Oct 3, 2015 at 8:10 am

      that dude looks scary , hardly a pious man

      but then again they all look scary to me

      Bullys and penguins

  14. Islam :- the hateful religion of peace says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 6:05 am

    Ok .. so this Imam is an Imam right, no doubt he takes money from the mosk for preaching, then he’s on falsified social welfare, (because he hasn’t got a job ?? )

    The govt needs to change the laws to make it easy to evict with no right of return people like this ..

    There should be no new mosk’s built … full stop ..

    and any mosks caught reaffending or financing jihadists … bulldozed

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