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Oregon massacre: Singling out Christians for murder is standard practice among Islamic jihadis

Oct 2, 2015 3:22 pm By Raymond Ibrahim

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Yesterday, an Oregon gunman curiously singled out Christians during rampage:

A woman who claimed to have a grandmother inside a writing class in Snyder Hall, where a portion the massacre unfolded, described the scene in a tweet.

“The shooter was lining people up and asking if they were Christian,” she wrote. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head. If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs. My grandma just got to my house, and she was in the room. She wasn’t shot, but she is very upset.

For the record, there is a precedent here:  Whenever Islamic terrorists raid large centers where Muslims and Christians are intermingled, they routinely separate Muslims from Christians, before massacring the latter.

For example, last April in Kenya, gunmen from the Somali Islamic group, Al Shabaab—“the youth”—stormed Garissa University, singled out Christian students, and murdered them, some beheaded.  Read here for more examples.

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  1. Jaladhi says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    Is the MSM ready to call him a Muslim and jihadi? Or they will call anyone racist who suggests that????

    • Myxlplik says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 3:33 pm

      I’m sure the MSM along with Obama will mostly see this as a gun problem, and or something akin to more workplace violence like they did with Ft. Hood.

      They’ll play it over and over until people refuse to swallow it or they change reality to suite their adgenda.

      • Angemon says

        Oct 2, 2015 at 4:21 pm

        Myxlplik posted:

        “I’m sure the MSM along with Obama will mostly see this as a gun problem”

        Indeed.

        • dlbrand says

          Oct 3, 2015 at 1:56 am

          Last night, rueful (at that point, when I first learned of the above details of this hit), JW had nothing on this; I posted the following at
          http://www.weaselzippers.us/235714-shooter-in-oregon-asked-people-their-religion-before-he-started-shooting/:

          “The shooter was lining people up and asking if they were Christian,” she wrote. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head. If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs….”

          (http://www.breitbart.com/big-g…,
          and elsewhere.)

          Those details, BHO knew before he stepped to the mic to dribble his spill on this mass murder; yet, those detail, he counted not worth mentioning.

          Though, on our local evening news tonight, which I “record”
          daily and view at a later hour; from evening News anchor-women thereat, Shae Rozzi, Fox 23 Tulsa, I first heard of those details in this shooting; yet BHO, in his spill on the murders, counted these details unworthy of mentioning.

          Though, so paramount to this mass-murder were those details,
          Shae Rozzi, not just once, not just twice, but three times during the 1700 news hour stated them. Did so, once before BHO stepped to the mic, interrupting the show, thus, it cutting and yielded to him and his comments on the shooting; once on the heels of his statements; once more, at end of show.

          Those details, as stated above: “The shooter was lining people
          up and asking if they were Christian,” she wrote. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head.”

          News anchor women, Shea Rozzi, Fox 23 Tusla, knew those facts before the one who fills the office of the Presidency of the U.S. of A. stepped to the mic to speak on it. And as google search provides, do did countless others.

          Which means, before BHO stepped to the mic to comment on today’s mass murders, he knew of the facts of this shooting that Shae Rozzi of Tulsa Fox 23 News and others knew.

          But unlike Shae Rozzi and others, such details, Mr. BHO—as
          did many others one can add to that list–counted those details not worth mentioning.

          “The shooter was lining people up and asking if they were Christian,” she wrote. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head.”

        • voegelinian says

          Oct 3, 2015 at 2:51 pm

          Re: dlbrand’s post on Obama’s unconscionable negligence. If I had a million dollars I would bet it all unhesitatingly on the likelihood that had this Oregon shooter done the same but changed one religion — asked people “Are you Muslim?” then shot them — Obama would be all over that like brown on couscous…

        • dlbrand says

          Oct 4, 2015 at 2:34 am

          voegelinian said: “… on Obama’s unconscionable negligence.”

          If I had a million dollars I would bet it all unhesitatingly on the likelihood that had this Oregon shooter done the same but changed one religion — asked people “Are you Muslim?” then shot them — Obama would be all over that like brown on couscous…

          You know it, ‘ like flies on steaming doggie-doo.

      • Jay Boo says

        Oct 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm

        Myxlplik posted:
        :”They’ll play it over and over until people refuse to swallow it or they change reality to suite their adgenda.”

        Indeed,
        If the Oregon gunman is a Muslim and the MSM know it, then they are giving Obama ample time to control the narrative and spin up a web of obfuscation.

        If he is not a Muslim, then Islam and Obama and the Leftist MSM are still to blame for encouraging it by their steady habit of covertly assaulting Christianity.

  2. jihad3tracker says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 3:30 pm

    This is a perfect time to give a path for the brilliant, courageous, darkly-mordant David Wood’s video “The Jihad Triangle” at his blog www dot answeringmuslims dot com. Use the search box to find it.

    4 minutes and 57 seconds of clearly delineated truth.

    Recruiter in the Obedience stage: “Do you think you get which commands of Allah to obey, like our religion is some sort of lunch buffet?” Stay with it until the end, which includes the perfect noun to describe politicians and the media.

    • Mo says

      Oct 3, 2015 at 2:56 am

      @ jihad3tracker

      “This is a perfect time to give a path for the brilliant, courageous, darkly-mordant David Wood’s video “The Jihad Triangle” at his blog www dot answeringmuslims dot com. Use the search box to find it.”

      I love David’s work! Spot on regarding Islam and at the same time very funny!

  3. R Cole says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    I thought singling out Christians was more reminiscent of what the terrorists would do. That clearly the gunman had been inspired by Islamic attacks to some degree.

    ::

    And then Obama playing Islamo-politics with it.

    After claiming the US spends enormous amounts thwarting terrorist attacks on US soil – says more people die from so-called going-postal gun attacks – and then suggests the media stack the two side by side for comparison.

    But if the US did not spend as much – on combating Islamic terrorism – the US would must certainly resemble Pakistan.

    I thought Obama’s comments were in poor taste.

    Especially since – he makes no such appearances – offering condolences to families when there has been a terrorist attack carried out by a person known to be a Muslim. And if he does speak he purposely plays it down – perfecting to offer his sympathies to the attacker’s mosque – because it is they who are suffering the most by now.

  4. the Oracle says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    I call this Zombie Jihad:

    1. Find someone who is mentally ill.

    2. Teach them Islam 101, first semester.

    3. Get them off their meds.

    4. Point and push.

    • Ernie Banks says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 4:28 pm

      With all due respect, I haven’t seen anything yet to indicate he was a Muslim. Based on his facebook postings, it appears that he was an atheist and a nazi sympathizer. The only thing thing I’ve seen is that he liked Vester Flanagan, the Muslim that killed the tv reporter and cameraman on the air last month in Virginia: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3256633/Shooter-Oregon-community-college-kills-people-campus.html.

      I am not in any way trying to cover for him. I just don’t think that every mass murderer is a jihadi or jihadi wannabe, even though it seems that way. Some of them are just crazy.

      • Del boy says

        Oct 2, 2015 at 4:38 pm

        Wheres the link that flanagan was a muslim?

        • JawsV says

          Oct 2, 2015 at 7:59 pm

          Flanagan wasn’t a Muslim.

      • Screeminmeeme says

        Oct 3, 2015 at 9:57 am

        This might be of interest to you. I came upon it in the EUTimes when searching for info about the shooter.

        http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-mass-shooter-on-terror-list-obama-refused-to-take-from-russia/#.Vg7WeyL3MFw.twitter

        An excerpt: ‘

        ”The (Russian) Federal Security Services (FSB) is reporting today that an American black-Islamist terror suspect, who yesterday committed an act of mass murder in the State of Oregon (United States), had been included on a list of 87,000 “known/suspected” Islamic terrorists that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) refused last month to accept from the Federation due to its not being “politically viable in the present atmosphere”.

        According to this report, the black-Islamist terrorist who committed this act of terror, Chris Harper Mercer, had previously been indentified by electronic intelligence specialists within the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) as being an Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) adherent after he had attempted to gain passage to Syria via Turkey during the first week of September, 2015.

        By the Obama regime refusing to accept this terror list from the Federation, this report continues, Mercer was able to accomplish his terror act when yesterday he killed 9 people and wounded 7 others at the Umpqua Community College prior to his being shot and killed by local US police forces.”

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Oct 3, 2015 at 4:21 pm

          That says it all. Thanks for sharing.

          Caliph Ohammad’s entire administration is untrustworthy.

          Can’t even trust the military, since all 3 and 4 Stars are sycophants, handpicked by POTUS, kissing his ass for promotion. You need to speak with Colonels and below if you want to hear the truth. Gone are the days of Pershing, Patton, LeMay, and MacArthur: Generals with the balls to kill millions, and tell the POTUS exactly what he needs to hear.

          You’ll always hear the honest-to-God truth from me. As a Major, separated from Active Duty USAF, getting in trouble or killing my promotions for publicly speaking truth is no longer an issue for me.

    • cs says

      Oct 3, 2015 at 8:29 am

      Some interesting profile construction.

  5. Del boy says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    Woah! Hold the press.
    The killer wasn’t a muslim. This isn’t a jihad attack. He’s been already identified as a republican conservative atheist.
    Why is this story on “jihad” watch????

    • jihad3tracker says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 5:32 pm

      Give the full details time to come out, after FBI investigation.

    • JawsV says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 8:03 pm

      Why on Jihad Watch?

      Read Spencer’s previous articles about the Oregon shooter.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 3, 2015 at 2:32 am

        Why on Jihad Watch?

        Because even though this shooter was not Muslim, it is clear that he admired the savagery of Islam. One of only two “friends” on his MySpace page is a Muslim supporter of violent Jihad:

        “Non-religious” Oregon gunman targeted Christians, had Muslim friend who praised “the brave Mujahideen heroes”

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/non-religious-oregon-gunman-targeted-christians-had-muslim-friend-who-praised-the-brave-mujahideen-heroes

  6. Benedict says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    This has the hall mark of the Obama’s administration dislike of Christianity and Christians. By his attitude people are bolden in making Christians their muderous target

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 3, 2015 at 12:47 am

      Exactly true
      Obama’s attitude has emboldened Leftists thinking Athiests, and Muslims to make Christians their murderous target

  7. Joseph says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    If this happens to me and I have no way to retaliate I pray to have the courage and proclaim my love for JESUS CHRIST.
    If you deny Him,He will deny you.

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 3, 2015 at 12:53 am

      Islam exists on the outside
      Muslims are already dead inside and hey don’t even know it.

      Christianity lives on the inside.
      Enjoy each moment.

    • Barbara says

      Oct 5, 2015 at 9:34 pm

      My sentiments exactly Joseph

  8. Dan Dagen says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    you guys, I hate jihad as much as you, but the shooter just wasn’t a Muslim.
    there are plenty of legitimate jihad stories out there.

    • Joseph says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 6:00 pm

      Dan, what I think that they want you to figure out is that Christians were given that **special** attention. Just like Christians are give the special labeling by the Obama administration and other groups around the world.
      This was not an attack BY a Christian, that is the point. Even though the world would paint us as bad or worse than Muslims. You have to read between the lines here.
      I would type more but I have to go and plot devious ways where I can torture someone by telling then the “good news” of my precious Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST and possibly save their soul from eternal damnation. I hope that the thought police don’t catch on to my nefarious plot to save souls and bring joy into peoples’ lives.

    • BlueRaven says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 6:20 pm

      Here is the link to Jihad in the title fo the story- “Singling out Christians for murder is standard practice among Islamic jihadis”

      Robertt never stated he is a Muslim. He points out the Jihadis practice the same procedure as this evil-head did. There is no difference between him and a Jihadi the way he singled out Christians. It is obvious to me there are strong similarities between this heinous attack and the attcks by the Jihadies.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 3, 2015 at 2:35 am

      No, Dan–he wasn’t a Muslim. But he was clearly an admirer of Jihad violence, which he replicated himself.

      In the same way, Anders Breivik was not Muslim, but he admired Al Qaida.

      • Peggy says

        Oct 3, 2015 at 3:00 am

        Maybe he hadn’t converted yet but he was obviously a Muslim at heart.

    • duh_swami says

      Oct 3, 2015 at 4:03 pm

      The shooter may not have been a pious Muslim, but he did what Allah would want him to do anyway…Allah works in stranger and mysterious ways…Mostly strange and mysterious,,,

  9. Daniel Triplett says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    Even if this monster isn’t Muslim, he’s certainly a mercenary for them, doing their evil work exterminating Christians.

  10. somehistory says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    No human can read the heart…and now that he is dead, no one can even ask this guy what was in his mind.
    Clearly, from all of the first-hand accounts from the people inside the room with the murderer, he was targeting Christians. He also shot …in the legs…those who indicated they were not Christian and those that maybe just didn’t want to admit it after seeing others shot in the head.
    From the evidence available, he had a hatred for Christians and/or Christianity and he had a *friend* who is moslem. There is evidence that he admired the IRA which is not just a friendly group of guys who get together at the local pub for a pint. The IRA has committed terror attacks.
    The late, never great, mo of the desert, murderer, raper of children, was said to have been rejected by the Jews and developed a deep hatred for Jews and Christians.
    Perhaps this murderer, and I will not do as he wished and say or even write his name, was rebuffed at some point by a Christian girl, or in some other way or for some other reason, developed a hatred for Christians.
    The use by o of this to try to take away the rights of those who choose to try to protect themselves from others such as he is truly despicable. The victims are pawns to him.

    • Screeminmeeme says

      Oct 3, 2015 at 10:03 am

      That Muslim ”friend” on his MySpace Page is known ISIS/ISIL terrorist Mahmoud Ali Ehsani, who is banned in Russia , and was one of only two of Mercer’s MySpace “friends” and who praises the Islamic State, calls for the killing of Jews and glorifies in pictures on his MySpace page his rapture of these terrorists.

      Go here to read about Mercer’s being an ”Íslamic State adherent” and on a Russian terror watch list which Obama refused to acknowledge:

      http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-mass-shooter-on-terror-list-obama-refused-to-take-from-russia/#.Vg7WeyL3MFw.twitter

  11. Jeremiah says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    The Police are requesting the media to withhold that the attack was a jihad attack by Muslims acting for Islam. They say such emphasis would only encourage Islam to commit further attacks. Furthermore, the People don’t need to panic into stopping mass immigration of jihadis to the United States. So let us keep assisting the enemy by ignoring the threat. The police didn’t actually use those words but just listen to the reports and it is possible to see that thinking.

    • Daniel Triplett says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 6:15 pm

      Yes, the Caliph in our White House certainly doesn’t want this interfering with the Hijrah.

  12. Bezelel says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis , Suzanna Gratia Hupp speaking to congress about her personal horror of facing a mass murdering shooter while unarmed and lost both parents. Her story should be mainstream knowledge.

  13. gary fouse says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    We don’t know the facts yet about this guy. The most troubling thing is that his My Space page had two other people on it, one of whom was some sort of Muslim who was supportive of Jihad. After that this guy Mercer went out in all sorts of directions. Was he sympathetic to jihad against Christians? Had he recently converted? We just don’t know yet. I am just hoping that if such a connection is found and it was a jihad act, the authorities and media don’t hide it from us.

    • JawsV says

      Oct 2, 2015 at 8:08 pm

      “and media don’t hide it from us”

      They already are. The IRA figures on the jerk’s MySpace are mentioned, but not the Jihadi he admired.

      The MSM would blame a space alien from Mars before they would a Muslim or Islam.

    • Screeminmeeme says

      Oct 3, 2015 at 10:11 am

      We don’t…we won’t know the facts about this guy (at least not from American sources because the Obama administration and his media lackeys will suppress all they can.) I found this yesterday in the EU Times when researching the shooter:

      http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-mass-shooter-on-terror-list-obama-refused-to-take-from-russia/#.Vg7WeyL3MFw.twitter

      It appears that Mercer was on a Russian terror watch list which was offered to Obama, but he refused it ”due to its not being politically viable in the present atmosphere”.

      • Nelson Abdullah says

        Oct 3, 2015 at 10:37 am

        That quote, ”due to its not being politically viable in the present atmosphere” translates to the White House has nothing bad to say about Muslims.

  14. mortimer says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    NO SHOOTER has asked: ‘Stand up if you are Muslim.’

    The supposed ‘religious extremists’ of other faiths are a SCAM called the theory of EQUAL GUILT.

    We are supposed to accept that Buddhists, Jainists and Seventh Day Adventists have their OWN violent ARMIES ready to subjugate the world to their coreligionists and EXECUTE those who refuse to submit.

    The word ISLAM (submission) reveals which religion is DEMANDING submission.

    • Raja says

      Oct 4, 2015 at 10:51 am

      Mortimer,

      Your comment: NO SHOOTER has asked: ‘Stand up if you are Muslim.’ is worth a thousand words.

      The axis-of-evil (Western European nations,ANZ, North Amercian nations namely US, Canada and the papa included need to be EDUCATED with your golden words.

  15. simpleton says

    Oct 2, 2015 at 11:26 pm

    Sorry a little off topic, though still police are a target of muslims.

    Shooting outside police headquarters in Parramatta
    Date October 2, 2015 – 8:33PM
    Read more: ..Sydney morning herald
    http://tinyurl.com/q5c2yrx

    A police source said there had been increased “chatter” detected in the past week relating to a possible attack on the Parramatta headquarters.
    The officer, who works at the State Crime Command headquarters, said that every officer had been ordered to wear their guns on them at all times this week, even while at their desks.

    Protection for me, not for thee. OK I am overstating it, as it can be countered that the police were more ready for action that week.
    Next time could be at a place where it could be hours before the police can arrive and respond. Then what?
    “Increased chatter”, so was it that murder, or are there more actions to take place?

    Gunman behind Sydney police station murder identified as 15-year-old boy
    Read more at 9 news. au
    http://tinyurl.com/omxalws

    “We understand he is of an Iraqi-Kurdish background and he was born in Iran”.

    The first step of the formula,

    Another co-efficient

    The teenager shouted religious slogans before firing one shot in the back of the head of a police finance worker as the employee was heading home on Friday afternoon.

    Read more: Sydney Morning Herald,
    http://tinyurl.com/pkqteh6

  16. Baucent says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 6:44 am

    I don’t believe there is a Islam motivation in this killers actions. No evidence he was a Jihadist. What he was, was the arch typical loner type who is screwed up in the head with his sad life that he wants to end his life and take others with him. That he singled out Christians is not unique in these school massacres. That has occurred before, with Hitler loving neo- nazis. Early reports screened showed Mercer father, who spoke with an Irish accent. On is social media site Mercer had pictures of the IRA. So what is the Irish connection? Is he a radical Catholic? Probably not, as he is said to despise “organised religion”, that might include Islam. Truth is we may never know what was going on in his head.

  17. RaymondX says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 8:09 am

    That’s what the jihadists in the Philippines did during the Zamboanga City Crisis on September 9–28, 2013. They held all the Christian civilians as human shields and let all their fellow muslims go.

    It’s forbidden for a Muslim to transgress against his own kind. Always do it against an infidel.

  18. Ex-muslim says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 9:38 am

    The only way to stop persecution and murdering Christians in the world today is if Christian fight back against their persecuters. No religious group will survive by keep turning the other cheek to their killers.

  19. Nelson Abdullah says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 9:58 am

    A story appeared yesterday on the European Union Times that says the Russian FSB had tried to warn Obama about Chris Harper Mercer’s terrorist ties but their warning was rejected. Think someone should check this out.

    http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-mass-shooter-on-terror-list-obama-refused-to-take-from-russia/

    Oregon Mass Shooter On Terror List Obama Refused To Take From Russia
    Posted by EU Times on Oct 2nd, 2015

    I recall that the same Russian FSB tried to warn Obama about the Tsarnaev brothers, before the Boston Marathon bombing.

  20. kay says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 10:23 am

    Something like a copycat crime.
    Psychological plague. Bad meme.
    Monkey see on TV, monkey do.
    Negative stuff can get into the subconscious.
    People do stupid things.
    Like killing and raping and beheading on behalf of “The Beneficent And Merciful.”
    A lot of what people call “religion” is just an internalized habit. Doesn’t have to make any sense. Can be very irrational or incredibly aggressive. Or even lethal.
    I know nothing about this case. But there are really bad memes going around out in the wild.
    Hate to see a college campus shot up. There will be more and more emotional and social problems when there major negativity gets streamed out to the public. People get toxic, and some toxic people become dangerous. It’s a bad loop.
    Look at history and you will see tons of bloody insanity.
    One important form of “therapy” for this kind of trauma is for a traumatized person to do daily personal journaling. This helps to organize thoughts and feelings. I happened to be journaling for a couple months when 9/11 hit. The journaling really helped way more than I thought it would. It’s a way to befriend oneself. Wish I’d done journaling many years earlier than 2001.
    Music helps. So does a set of hour to two hour walks.
    LONG Playlist of Relaxing Soft Piano Music to Sleep and Study

  21. Enragedsince1999 says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    The cowardly, lying US and European media this morning are writing everything about the gunman … except his admiration of “Palestinian” anti-Israeli “mujahidin”, except the “kill the Jews” part.

  22. Mary Mueller says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    It is amazing to me how compliant we’ve become. MSM spoon feeds the populace, the prez changes the subject and ignores the ever increasingly long list of murders that have been perpetrated in this country by Moslem terrorists, and we run to the “comment” section and rant and rave over the injustices we are adapting to. How close do you think that we are to having had enough?

  23. Ashley says

    Oct 3, 2015 at 5:47 pm

    I find it interesting that Alek Scarlatos, one of the three heroes who thwarted the Paris-bound train terror attack last August, is a student enrolled at Umpqua Community College. Scarlatos states that he would have been on the campus on Thursday if not for a previous engagement.

    Coincidence?

    Could this have been an act of retribution/retaliation?

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