The Qur’an says that “there is no compulsion in religion,” (2:256), but what constitutes “compulsion” is in the eye of the beholder. The institutionalized subjugation of the dhimma, with its regular humiliation and harassment, from which one can be freed for the simple price of converting to Islam, is not considered compulsion. Remember Steve Centanni and Olaf Wiig, the journalists who were kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam — even though their conversions were obviously coerced, their captors made them say that they were converting freely, and the captors probably believed that themselves. After all, the journos could have chosen to be killed instead.

“Christian life in danger in Pakistan,” Pakistan Christian Post, October 24, 2015:
CHANGA MANGA: October 24, 2015. (PCP) A Christian man namely Sajid Masih’s life in danger after his Christian fiancée was abducted and forcibly converted to Islam and given in marriage with a Muslim man namely Allah Rakha.
Sajid Masih was got engaged with a Christian woman namely Nabila Bibi for one year ago. Sajid has made plan and arrangements to get solemnized marriage in coming next month of November, [sic] 2015 but his fiancée Nabila Bibi was abducted by a Muslim man Allah Rakha. Sajid and father of his fiancée namely Bashir Masih, his cousins Antzar Masih and Qaisar Masih along with other family members searched [for] her and later submitted a complaint against unknown person at Changa Manga Police Station which was not entertained until now.
On 16 October, 2015, some men in plain clothes came to Bashir Masih home and informed and warned him that her daughter converted to Islam and got married with a Muslim man Allaha Rakha and they gave some documents of her daughter’s conversion to Islam and marriage certificates as a proof.
Yesterday 22 October, 2015, Sajid Masih along with his cousins Antzar Masih and Qaisar Masih and father of his fiancée went to the given home address of Muslim man. When they met with Allah Rakha and with other fifteen to twenty men, they asked them that they wanted to meet with Nabila Bibi. They flatly refused and warned that she is now Muslim and threatened them with dire consequences if they would not leave their village and try to come again but they insisted to meet her, then the Muslims men captured them and made them hostage in a Haveli. The whole night they remained hostage and early in the morning they got chance to flee from the Haveli.
Today again some Muslim men came at home of Bashir Masih and asked where Sajid Masih is residing and Masih told them that he was living at Village Kot Nanak Singh Wala, Changa Manga, then those men went to look for Sajid at his home. Now he is living in hiding. Sajid came to Sardar Mushtaq Gill, Human Rights Defender and told the whole tragedy and requested for legal assistance.
In such issues, the victim’s family usually registers case FIR for abduction or rape with the local police station. The rapist, on behalf of the victim girl, registers a counter case FIR, accusing the Christian family of harassing the willfully converted and married woman and for forcing to convert the woman back to Christianity and sometime it become danger to life if Christian family take legal action against Muslim man.
In most cases, the victim girl may be subjected to sexual violence, rape, forced prostitution, human trafficking and sale, or other domestic abuse or discarded from home after passing some time.
gravenimage says
Pakistan: Muslims abduct Christian woman, forcibly convert her to Islam, threaten life of her Christian fiancé
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What is extremely common in cases like this is not only that Muslims rape the victim, but that they threaten to murder her entire family–including her fiancé–if she does not agree to convert to Islam and “marry” her rapist.
“No compulsion” is a sick joke.
God, I hate Islam.
And most likely Pakistani authorities will do nothing–these cases are rife in that Muslim hell hole, and police usually confirm that the victim has converted and “married”, and that the victims’ loved ones should give up–or else.
This is done to Hindu as well as Christian women, and is a regular tactic in the eradication of all Infidels there.
mortimer says
ENSLAVEMENT is what this is…but enslavement is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
The goal of all Islam is to create compliant slaves! What fortunate happy folk those slaves of Islam should be! After all, they are slaves of Allah…how nice! And if they don’t like it their hands, feet or heads will be removed.
Islam = submission = slavery
Jaladhi says
This is real Islam at work!! When will the western leaders see the truth about Muslims and Islam instead of wandering in the fantasyland of their PC induced madness? The Western media and academia is also guilty of the same madness!!
Truth Seeker says
Quran has mainly 2 Parts. 1. Submissive Stage; when Muslim Strength is Not Enough to Fight with Kafirs. There No Compulsion in Religion etc will be Found. 2. Sujigative stage; when Muslim Strength is Enough to Fight Kafirs. Then widespread Violence and Butchering of Innocents can be seen.
Muslims in the West will Quote only from the Former part to Deceive the Westerners.
Davegreybeard says
Actually there are “3 Stages of Jihad” as so artfully explained by David Wood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPLqVL4GHVU
Angemon says
This is what Europe is importing – look at England.
Walter Sieruk says
The reason that force is used to make a “convert” to Islam is because Islam had no arguments to are based on logic or reason to uphold it . Many Muslim have exposes this ,time and time again by their own words and violent actions.
Jack Diamond says
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
Islam is nothing but compulsion. Suras 9:5 and 9:29 say non-Muslims must become Muslims or be killed or subjugated. The threat of death is usually understood to be compulsion. Ah, but it says no compulsion “in religion.” Not compelling actual belief is the Muslim meaning of compulsion in religion. Dhimmitude is not compulsion because it is an external condition imposed, the dhimmi is not required to embrace Islam (though things would go easier for him). But even those infidels forced to convert with their tongue are not actually being forced to believe in their hearts, so there is no “compulsion in religion”. So say the venerable scholars of Islam.
Christian girls don’t stand a chance in Egypt when similar outrages occur, what chance would they have in Pakistan which is even a few rungs lower in Hell?
U.S. Military and economic aid to Pakistan
Year Military (USD in billions) Economic (USD in billions)
2002 1.36 1.233 for 2002 to 2004
2003 1.500 1.233 for 2002 to 2004
2004 1.200 1.233 for 2002 to 2004
2005 1.313 .338
2006 1.260 .539
2007 1.115 .567
2008 1.435 .507
2009 1.689 1.366
2010 1.232 1.409
2011 1.685 unknown
Total 11.740 billion[15] 6.08 billion[16]
In total, the United States obligated nearly $75 billion to Pakistan between 1948 and 2014.
abad says
So, WHY exactly do Christian minorities in Pakistan et al do not migrate to Europe or the USA?!
Jack Diamond says
They are very poor. They are also often indentured servants, those who work in the brick kilns can’t go anywhere without paying off their “bonded loan” first, a method of enslaving laborers still practiced, though officially illegal. The tiny minority of Christians in Pakistan should be evacuated, yes. They have no future.
celtic warriorcanada says
I was a little disappointed this morning that the earthquake didn’t take in a little bit more of Pakistan ! But hell, there is still the hajj in Saudi Arabia next year ! Perhaps the old record will be broken and a MILLION BLIND RELIGIOUS ZOMBIES WILL TRAMPLE ONE ANOTHER IN A BID TO THROW STONES AT A WALL ! The country of Pakistan has to be ONE OF THE CREEPIEST COUNTRIES ON THE PLANET !
Jaladhi says
Allah may grant your wish. Per NYTimes this evening on front page :
“A study warning of “intolerable” temperatures because of climate change could have severe consequences for the annual hajj pilgrimage.”
Jeremiah says
We are masochists. Do we like hearing outrageous stories or do we like action?
If we like action, why dont we do something spectacular? Why dont we move all Christian Pakistanis across the border into India? Transportation costs are low and the resettlement costs can be worked out within the growing needs of the Indian economy. With the help of India this can work out fine.
In addition, we need to stop the migration of Muslim Pakistanis so that more Christian Pakistanis can move to America and Australia to fill all available immigration quotas.
That will make us feel much better.
Baucent says
Pakistan is a vile country.
gravenimage says
Because it is a supremely Islamic country.
dumbledoresarmy says
Anyone who wants to try to help Christians in Pakistan has two good options.
They can support Barnabas Fund.
https://www.barnabasfund.org
Barnabas offer immediate practical help to persecuted Christians, mostly in Muslim countries, including Pakistan (since Muslim countries are the main persecutors), though they also assist the persecuted in certain other places. (At present, however, they are focusing mainly on Syria and Iraq, and trying to help the threatened-with-genocide Christians escape).
Or (especially if in the UK) they can contact the British Pakistani Christian Association.
http://www.britishpakistanichristians.co.uk
The BPCA is not yet covering this particular case but they are actively assisting a number of other people whose cases have come up here at Jihadwatch.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were liaising with Barnabas.
The BCPA is doing a lot of lobbying of parliaments not only in the UK but elsewhere in Europe, trying to persuade governments to put more pressure on Pakistan re the human rights abuses perpetrated against non-Muslims especially Christians (but not only Christians).
I would encourage UK jihadwatchers to keep an eye on the BCPA website, as they quite often hold rallies and protests *in the UK*, both outside the Pakistani High Commission and outside Downing Street, and on one occasion, in Trafalgar Square. Their protests are the perfect chance for Islamosavvy UK residents to come out in public and speak up for the victims of Jihad….and *network* and *educate*.
This particular story of the Christian whose fiancee was seized by Muslims has not come up at the BCPA *yet*…but I would expect it to appear pretty soon. Pretty well every other story of mistreatment of Christians in Pakistan that has been covered at jihadwatch has also been covered in great detail by the BCPA, sometimes before it comes up here, sometimes after.
dumbledoresarmy says
All infidel-government ‘aid’ to Muslim Pakistan should cease, NOW.
All entry of Muslim Pakistanis to any majority-infidel country should cease, NOW.
All Muslim Pakistanis currently resident in non-Muslim lands but not possessing citizenship should be given the boot, back to Pakistan.
The moment Muslim Pakistanis who’ve inveigled their way into citizenship of a non-Muslim country put so much as a toe out of line – especially if they do it by practising or attempting to practise any part of Islam that violates Infidel law (e.g. an ‘honour’ murder, polygyny, forced and / or underage ‘marriage’, attacks upon family members who have left Islam, etc), their citizenship should be revoked and they should be inexorably shipped back to Pakistan.
India should try to find some way of facilitating the escape of Pakistani Hindus, Sikhs, etc.
Western countries could surely, if they put their minds to it, find some way of assisting the Christians to escape.
Get the remnant of non-Muslims out of the hellhole that is Islamic Pakistan, then seal it off and force it to stew in its own juice.