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UK judge: Parents who tried to join Islamic State can keep children, passports

Oct 22, 2015 5:58 pm By Robert Spencer

“It is my assessment that the intervention of the state has been a wake-up call for this couple. Their current beliefs do not pose a risk or compromise the safety of their children. [They] are good parents and they are able to care for all their children. I see no reason whatsoever to remove the children from their care.” These are the fantasies that spell the end of Britain as a free society. Good thing the parents weren’t counter-jihadists: they would have lost the kids for sure.

Asif Malik

“Islamist Parents Who Tried To Join Isis Can Keep Children And Passports, Judge Rules,” by Liam Deacon, Breitbart, October 21, 2015:

A couple of committed Islamists and keen followers of radical Imam Anjem Choudary who attempted to take their children into a war zone and join ISIS, will be allowed to keep their passports and young children a family court ruled yesterday.

In the first ruling of its kind, Sir James Munby, the most senior family court judge in England and Wales, said the family will have their passports returned as parents Asif Malik, 31, and Sara Kiran, 29, posed no threat to the welfare of their children – daughter Zoha, seven, and three sons Essa, four, Zakariva, two, and Yahya, one.

Sir James said they had “put the incident behind them”, The Times reports.

Mr Malik was photographed outside Regent’s Park mosque last January holding a placard which read: “Muslims will destroy the crusade and establish the Islamic state!” and outside the Lebanese embassy in May last year with one stating: “Stop Terrorism Against Sunnis… Islamic State Is The Solution.”

He was a member of the banned extremist group al-Mujahiroun, founded by the infamous Anjem Choudary who is currently being detained on charges of recruiting for terrorist organisations, and had links to Abu Rahin Aziz, an Islamic State fighter from Luton killed in a US drone strike in July.

The family was detained near the Syrian border in Turkey in April, after concerns were raised when they were caught on CCTV traveling by ferry to Europe.

Sir James praised the couple for co-operating with police and said he supported the findings of a Reading Council social worker that “there are no immediate concerns for the welfare of the children”.

He said police had told the family that no further action would be taken.

The social worker wrote: “It is my assessment that the intervention of the state has been a wake-up call for this couple. Their current beliefs do not pose a risk or compromise the safety of their children.

“[They] are good parents and they are able to care for all their children. I see no reason whatsoever to remove the children from their care.”

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  1. Christianblood says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    In the meantime, US military airdrops 50 tons of ammo for Syrian islamic jihadist mass-murderers so that they could murder more innocent Syrian Christians:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/12/us-military-airdrops-50-tons-ammo-for-syrian-fighters-after-training-mission/?intcmp=hplnws

  2. Annak says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    Yes, I believe a pregnant EDL member was told by social workers that her child would be taken off her once born ( her husband was a service-man) I think they left GB as far as I know. The problem in GB as everywhere is the left are in power.
    They are even getting back into South American countries that threw them out years ago, such as Chile. Some communist woman, bye bye Chile.
    Everywhere I believe nowadays elections are rigged. It is not that difficult to rig elections !
    The power elite were all groomed for their positions now back in the sixties, seventies and eighties. Called ” the beast” in biblical terms.
    Cannot just come out of nowhere, it’s empire was built up slowly and took decades, if not centuries.

    • Marty says

      Oct 23, 2015 at 5:05 am

      In Rotherham, (where the authorities virtually supervised mohammedan
      abuse of British children & even prosecuted a parent trying to rescue his daughter),
      long standing foster parents had their children removed when it emerged they
      voted for UKIP.
      Today, I read that Durham University has stopped Tommy Robinson talking on Free Speech,
      while its islamic society hosts, & is run by, brutes who condone stoning, female genital
      mutilation & the killing of apostates.
      The UK has few serious conservative politicians & our young people are being coached
      for a steady islamic takeover.
      Interestingly, Robinson gave the speech he had prepared at the top Public School, Harrow.
      Where our future top civil servants & captains of industry gave it an enthusiastic reception.

      • TheBuffster says

        Oct 23, 2015 at 7:39 am

        Thanks for telling us about Harrow, Marty. Good news for a change.

    • semeru says

      Oct 23, 2015 at 7:25 am

      You are quite right, There was a case of EDL member was told by social workers that her child would be taken off her once born

      SOCIAL workers want to seize a baby as soon as it is born because of a mother’s political views.
      Durham County Council has told Toni McLeod she would pose a “risk of significant harm” to the baby by having ‘inappropriate friendships’.

      The 35-week-pregnant mother recently married Martyn McLeod, a serving soldier just back from Afghanistan, but social workers have told him that as a full-time soldier he would be unable to care for his child, reports the Sunday Express.

      Mrs McLeod, Antonia (Stella) Evans as she then was last year, was convicted of assault causing actual bodily harm, common assault and being the owner of a dog dangerously out of control, as reported in the Northern Echo.
      Her three previous children from different fathers are in care.

      http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/index.php/social-workers-condemn-mother-for-edl-views/

      Stella is a brew of beer popular with many of the EDL supporters

      More

      A WOMAN attacked several police officers, biting one, after her arrest during an English Defence League rally, a court heard.

      Police initially went to the aid of Antonia Claire Evans, who was suffering a suspected broken arm after a scuffle during the demonstration, in November last year.

      However, Durham Crown Court heard that a stand-off developed, before the officers tried to lift Evans out through the crowd.

      Rachel Masters, prosecuting, said Evans shouted and swore and, despite her injury, lashed out at the officers with her injured arm.

      She punched another officer in the groin and headbutted a third after they tried to pin her to the ground.

      Amid efforts to put her into a police van, to remove her and place her in a cell at a police station, she continued to struggle, biting a custody officer’s index finger.

      Miss Masters said the officer had to hit her three times to make her release her grip.

      The officer’s finger was cut by the bite, while another officer lost clumps of hair grabbed by Evans during the struggle.

      Miss Masters said the arrest at the rally, in Preston, Lancashire, was the culmination of a series of incidents involving Evans.

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      It included biting a security guard in the chest on June 3 as he tried to detain her outside the Tesco shop in Newton Aycliffe, County Durham, on suspicion of shoplifting.

      In a further incident, in October, she set a Staffordshire bull terrier and an alsatian on her then partner as he left her home in Newton Aycliffe after a row.

      Miss Masters said both dogs attacked and bit the man several times, while she landed several punches.

      Evans, 24, of Mellanby Crescent, admitted four charges of assault causing actual bodily harm, three of common assault and being the owner of a dog dangerously out of control.

      Julie Clemitson, for Evans, said she has spent 123 days in custody, during which time she has progressed with psychiatric assistance.

      Judge John Evans said that because of the time she had spent in custody, he could pass a prison sentence of 51 weeks, suspended for two years.

      She must undergo 12 months of probation supervision, to include sessions addressing alcohol misuse, while continuing to receive psychiatric help.

      She was also banned from owning dogs for seven years.

      http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/9041017.Woman_bit_police_officer_after_arrest/

      • TheBuffster says

        Oct 23, 2015 at 7:46 am

        Hmmmm. Doesn’t sound like they want to take the baby because of political views, but because of this tendency towards horrible judgment and violence.

  3. Angemon says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    The social worker wrote: “It is my assessment that the intervention of the state has been a wake-up call for this couple.

    Someone better write down the social worker’s name so someone can be held responsible when they try again…

  4. gerard says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    “Their current beliefs do not pose a risk” Have you read the Koran sweetie?
    ‘Sir James said they had “put the incident behind them”’ Oh? So they are no longer Muslim? They no longer attend Mosque? They have shredded their Koran?

  5. pdxnag says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    Let. Them. GO!

    Strip their citizenship and take the passports – from them all.

    Taking their kids away can be considered a war crime. And this is a war that Mohammad declared nearly 1,400 years ago.

  6. Matthieu Baudin says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    What a cocooned little world this Judge lives in; now we have to live with the consequences of living next door to these murderous zealots.

    • TheBuffster says

      Oct 23, 2015 at 7:48 am

      Either the judge is cocooned, or he’s afraid of losing his head.

      I’ve heard those Islamic State fans can be pretty brutal when they don’t get their way.

  7. Jack Holan says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    The water in the UK and the beer in the Pubs; is it safe to drink? Something is going on to affect these peoples cognitive abilities. As crazy as things may be in the States within the Social Welfare System, I’d be hard pressed to believe if you had some nutty social worker making an insane recommendation like this; that a Judge would go along with it. Who knows maybe there is an exceptional duo out there. Nevertheless they should hold the passports of the Social Worker and Judge make them pay bond if they leave the country and if G-d forbid something happens to one or all of those kids hold them criminally negligent and Civilly negligent.

  8. Peggy says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    Nice situation we have here. So when the kids grow up and go to join ISIS the parents can be “surprised and outraged” that the internet was at it again brainwashing their kids.

    • ECAW says

      Oct 23, 2015 at 4:46 am

      Very true. The internet has so much to answer for and the parents so little.

      That the horrors in the Koran will have a different effect on children than on adults (like alcohol or tobacco) is an obvious point but it is rarely highlighted. It hadn’t really hit me till I saw this from a Dutch blogger called iiat:

      “We know Muslims make children learn this text by heart in their Koran schools by making them recite the verses. They (the Muslims) themselves tell us so. Also, they hand us the Koran so you are 100% sure you have full and valid information. You don’t need journalists to gather and select information, no experts to explain things. You yourself are an expert. Here there is no fog consisting of (historical) context, abrogation, theological interpretation, etc. Six year old children do not take that into account either; they simply don’t have the cognitive capabilities to do so as everybody knows. Evaluation is simple. All you have to do is read a couple pages and ask yourself what you think will happen to a six year old child that is made to recite them.”

  9. mortimer says

    Oct 22, 2015 at 11:43 pm

    Justice Munby obviously knows nothing about Islam. He wrote: “Their current beliefs do not pose a risk or compromise the safety of their children.”

    Does Munby think the following beliefs are ‘a risk’?

    1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of world conquest 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Misogyny – repression of women 9 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 10 Genocide 11 Ethnic cleansing 12 Anti-Semitism 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 17 Backwardness – stagnation 18 Violence against women 19 Slavery 20 Discriminatory Sharia law 21 Hatred of the arts 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Supremacism

    All the above SHOULD BE considered a risk to children by any rational adult…and they are NORMATIVE ISLAMIC BELIEFS, rather than aberrations.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Oct 23, 2015 at 12:10 am

      Mortimer, though I have seen you list these Islamic beliefs on other threads, I was too busy copying and pasting it to a document in order to save it that I failed to express my appreciation. So, belatedly, thanks for a great least! I kept it.

      • Cecilia Ellis says

        Oct 23, 2015 at 12:21 am

        Oops . . . make that “great list!”

        • mortimer says

          Oct 24, 2015 at 10:32 am

          At ‘least’ someone is making a list. We should all be developing lists of rational arguments against this death cult and not leave it to one guy (Robert Spencer).

          Islam is in a fight to the death against Western civilization and the Leftarded cultural Marxists are working on the same project. Hence, their collaboration.

          Irrefutable arguments will make people change their minds about the supposed ‘religion of peace’.

  10. Jayell says

    Oct 23, 2015 at 12:13 am

    “Muslims will destroy the crusades”. Amazing how up to date with the news this man is!

    • ECAW says

      Oct 23, 2015 at 4:53 am

      Well it is only 1436 AD, sorry AM, in Mecca.

  11. No Fear says

    Oct 23, 2015 at 3:33 am

    As I understand it….. they tried to leave to join ISIS. Try them for high treason.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason_in_the_United_Kingdom

  12. Judi says

    Oct 23, 2015 at 6:32 am

    What planet is this judge living on?

  13. Baucent says

    Oct 23, 2015 at 8:43 am

    “the family will have their passports returned as parents Asif Malik, 31, and Sara Kiran, 29, posed no threat to the welfare of their children”

    You know what? I’m rather more concerned about the threat to the welfare of OTHER peoples children. The Judge is a gullible fool.

  14. gravenimage says

    Oct 23, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    UK judge: Parents who tried to join Islamic State can keep children, passports
    ………………………….

    Suicidal madness.

    When those returning from the Islamic State have been questioned–rare enough for that to happen at all–they have routinely said not that they were disillusioned over ISIS atrocities, but just over their not getting enough goodies–booty–or power from the Islamic State, or their missing superficial amenities in the West.

    Besides there being no change in their adherence to this violent creed, many of those returning are guilty of war crimes.

    And now they are back on our streets…

  15. Dj says

    Oct 27, 2015 at 8:52 am

    Can’t this Judge be removed? How would one have to go about this in the UK?

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