“If you can kill a disbelieving American or European … then kill him in any manner.” That’s the sort of “diversity” they really prize in contemporary Britain.
“Takeaway chef ‘sought to spread extreme views of Islamic State,'” Northern Echo, October 22, 2015:
A TAKEAWAY chef and father of six sought to spread the “extreme and intolerant” views of Islamic State while also planning to join the group himself, a court has heard.
Abul Kahar, 37, from Sunderland, is accused of trying to further the cause of the terrorist organisation, fund them and encourage others to take up arms with them.
He denies five counts of disseminating terrorist publications, including one called The Book Of Jihad.
He also denies one charge of preparation of terrorist acts, one of funding, collection of information and three counts of support for a proscribed organisation.
Anne Whyte QC told Newcastle Crown Court it was “a case of our time” and was a “very modern sort of crime”.
She said the alleged offences had occurred between November 2013 and March 2015 and Kahar set about “using the internet to spread extreme and intolerant views to invite support for Islamic State”.
This included posting online and chatting with contacts as he tried to encourage them to join IS.
“Mr Kahar led, to all outward appearances, a normal life. He lived in a terraced street in Sunderland with his wife and six children,” she said.
“He had a business interest in one local restaurant and also worked as a chef in an Indian takeaway restaurant.”
But following a search by police at his home in March 2015, officers seized amongst other things his iPhone and iPad and found a large amount of material relating to the terrorist group, the court was told.
Describing him as “a prolific user of Facebook” with five different identities as well as other communication applications, Ms Whyte said he had “set his profile photo as a fighter in black kneeling before his sword”….
The court heard he would tell those he was chatting to “support ISIS, support me otherwise you are not a true Muslim” and “if you think Isis is terrorist then you’ve become a moderate coconut Muslim”.
One of the documents he had on his phone was called “Hijrah to the Islamic State, what to pack up, who to contact, where to go, stories and more,” the jury was told.
And an IS publication he distributed stated: “If you can kill a disbelieving American or European … then kill him in any manner”, the court heard.
Ms Whyte told the jury that he complained about his wife not supporting his wishes to travel to Syria.
She said during his conversations he contemplated taking his children with him and leaving his wife, saying “if I didn’t have the kids with her I would’ve killed her”.

sidney penny says
“He denies five counts of disseminating terrorist publications, including one called The Book Of Jihad”
“The Book Of Jihad”
Is that not the title of one of your 15 books Robert?
Are you into terrorist publications?
If The Book of .Jihad is a terrorist publication what is The Koran?
sidney penny says
“He denies five counts of disseminating terrorist publications, including one called The Book Of Jihad”
We all cannot be Robert Spencers but we can educate ourselves.
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/
JIHÃD THE ISLAMIC DOCTRINE OF PERMANENT WAR.
Read it all.l
JeffS says
Robert, I don’t know where you got the idea that he is a “UK Muslim”. It doesn’t say that anywhere in the article. He’s a “takeaway chef and father of six” from Sunderland. He could be Bhuddist, Rastafarian, or anything.
Cecilia Ellis says
JeffS wrote: “Robert, I don’t know where you got the idea that he is a “UK Muslim”.”
Jeff, Robert got the idea that Abul Kahar is Muslim from the original article, “Takeaway chef ‘sought to spread extreme views of Islamic State,’” Northern Echo, October 22, 2015.” Robert provided an embedded link to that article.
Here is a salient extract from that article:
“Describing him as ‘a prolific user of Facebook’ with five different identities as well as other communication applications, Ms Whyte said he had ‘set his profile photo as a fighter in black kneeling before his sword.’
And she told the jury: ‘It was not the conduct of a modern Muslim agonising over the interpretation of his faith.’
‘It was the conduct of a modern Muslim seeking out assistance and guidance about getting to the front line with IS.’
The court heard he would tell those he was chatting to ‘support ISIS, support me otherwise you are not a true Muslim’ and ‘if you think Isis is terrorist then you’ve become a moderate coconut Muslim’.”
Note: The original article is available at the following embedded link:
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/13889783.Takeaway_chef__sought_to_spread_extreme_views_of_Islamic_State_/
Hope this clears up your question.
Beagle says
I am fairly certain JeffS was being sarcastic about the Media’s pathetic inability to properly report on this topic. Though in this case some useful information slipped through the fine net usually employed when Muslims kill for Islam.
Cecilia Ellis says
Thanks, Beagle. I respectfully extend my apologies to JeffS. Normally I catch sarcasm, but I guess this time I was screwed up. I’ll try not to let it happen again. Again, thanks for your reply.
Keith Jordan says
I did not detect any sarcasm, either. I thought JeffS either had a reading disability or was just plain stupid.
mortimer says
Very fine comments and details from Cecilia…as usual. Please keep it up.
Re the media’s inability to report on Islam, I maintain this is the fault of editors who send out journalists who have some understanding of politics, but virtually no knowledge of Islamic source texts and particularly no knowledge of MOHAMMED’S BIOGRAPHY. Mohammed’s biography IS ISLAM.
JeffS says
Yes guys, I was being sarcastic.
Cecilia Ellis says
Jeff, I sincerely apologize.
sidney penny says
There are plenty of Buddhists and Rastafarians, spreading the “extreme and intolerant” views of Islamic State while also planning to join the group themselves.,
There are also plenty of Buddhists and Rastafarians, disseminating terrorist publications, including one called The Book Of Jihad.(the holy book of the Rastafarians)
There are also plenty of Buddhists and Rastafarians men who are contemplating taking their children with them to Islamic State and also contemplating to kill their wives if they have no children..
I understand that with time pressure it is sometime difficult to read the original article..
Cecilia Ellis says
Sidney wrote: “I understand that with time pressure it is sometime difficult to read the original article.”
Sidney, I agree. I just happened to have the time to read the original article today. As such, I provided germane extracts that would clarify the reason for concluding that Abul was Muslim.
I did not realize, however, that Buddhists and Rastafarians associated with the Islamic State. Each day, I learn something new. Thanks for the info.
sidney penny says
“He denies five counts of disseminating terrorist publications, including one called The Book Of Jihad”
Should we ban “The Book of Jihad”?
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/
The Calcutta Quran Petition Compiled with an introduction by Sita Ram Goel
geard says
“if I didn’t have the kids with her I would’ve killed her”.
What a nice fellow! Only a bigoted Islamophobe could think otherwise!
gerard says
“if I didn’t have the kids with her I would’ve killed her”.
What splendid fellow! Only a nasty Islamophobe could possibly think otherwise!
Angemon says
Another day, another jihadi plotter in the UK…
somehistory says
Such a nice guy…would kill his wife. If she has any sense, she’ll be hoping they lock him up and throw the key in the Atlantic. If they can’t lock him up, she’s better off if they allow him to leave the country, but leave the kids with her.
islam has nothing to recommend it, no virtue, nothing good. It comes straight from satan the devil and will soon be thrown into the lake of fire.
Matthieu Baudin says
No need to worry about these types of misguided folk. When millions of Muslim migrants settle down in Europe they will in due course be overcome by the obvious moral superiority of PC values prevalent on the continent and will themselves become champions of womens rights, freedom of religious association and tolerant of homosexuals. Then, having become PC missionaries in their own right, this reformed Islam will then bring the International Umma into the PC fold. Diversity will make us all the same. What glorious times we are witnessing.
mortimer says
Baudin wrote: “Muslim migrants … will in due course be overcome by the obvious moral superiority of PC values prevalent on the continent”
That seems to be the view of Leftarded cultural Marxists in their credulous simplicity.
Of course they have never read ANY of Islam’s source documents, but because they are PC, they are filled with the certainty that they know MORE about Islam than those who have actually studied it.
citycat says
“if i didn’t have the kids with her, i would’ve killed her”
but didn’t because she has bred for Allah six kids who may become more dangerous to evolving humanity than he might be.
mortimer says
Abdul Kahar said: “if I didn’t have the kids with her I would’ve killed her”.
Where can we get MORE MODEL CITIZENS like that? (sarc off)
citycat says
The kids would have gone to Christians or Muslim/Non-Muslim infidels.
It might have caused a scene with Muslims and Traitors.
That is sick about the pregnant EDL member.
What is that all about? Loyalty to one’s country being pushed underground?
The country is sick with the spreading of the Islamic anti-living in harmony virus.
BC says
“Mr Kahar led, to all outward appearances, a normal life. He lived in a terraced street in Sunderland with his wife and six children,”
We here this time after time, and still our ‘leaders’ want to bring in more of them. Oh and note the SIX children!
Bill Bobs says
The entire problem is only partly about Islam. It’s mostly about us or more precisely our liberal leaders and elites. This problem of delusional lefties could be solved almost instantly if they could somehow be made to face the consequences of their idiocy. But as we saw with ObamaCare they always negotiate an out for themselves from the disastrous consequences of their policies.
This story reminds of another piece I read today about how western pandering to Muslims designed to avoid an us and them mindset is resulting in exactly that. It’s at: http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2015/10/us-and-them.html
Baucent says
A thoroughly nice chap by the sound of it, probably Pakistani.
How many “Mr Kahars” are currently making their way through the Balkans to arrive at a German suburb any time soon?
No Fear says
I feel culturally enriched after reading about him.
We need more like him in Australia…..(sarc)
bewick says
Sadly we Brits are likely funding this. A takeaway chef isn’t paid a lot but this man has an iphone and an ipad. Maybe that is because he also has 6 kids and, with limited earnings, will be being paid eyewatering amounts in child benefit and child tax credit. That could be as much as $5000 per year per kid = $30000. Not counting working tax credits and housing benefit. One also wonders if even his earnings are fully declared by himself and his employer since tax avoidance does apper to be a cultural norm. I could argue that this is economic jihad but sadly European immigrants and our own workshy are all claiming thes benefits.