Rotherham is where police stood by and allowed Muslim rape gangs to abduct and destroy the lives of 1,400 non-Muslim girls, and did nothing for fear of being branded “racist.” Now that that scandal has broken, however, Muslim groups are scrambling to recover protected victimhood status: “British Muslim Youth (BMY) warned its members would not be ‘held responsible for acts of personal self-defence’ and said it could no longer trust South Yorkshire Police because of the ongoing ‘marginalisation and dehumanisation’ of Muslims.” Aside from the not-so-veiled threat, which is an indication of how aggressive Muslims are in today shattered, staggering, dhimmi UK, the rest of the British Muslim Youth’s statement is quite familiar: we have seen again and again and again, in the U.S. and elsewhere, Muslims claiming that counter-terror efforts are resulting in their “marginalization and dehumanization.” Here the same risible claim is being applied to investigation of the Muslim rape gangs and their coverup. One would think that one day Western authorities would realize that this claim is always and in every case made about any and all attempts to curb jihad violence and Islamic supremacism, and stop taking it seriously. One would think wrong.
“Fury as Islamic group orders Muslims in Rotherham to BOYCOTT police over child sex scandal,” Express, October 29, 2015:
A Muslim group is boycotting the police over its treatment following the Rotherham abuse scandal
The British Muslim Youth (BMY) is protesting the perceived persecution of Muslims in the aftermath of the town’s shameful scandal.
In a message posted online the group ordered fellow Muslims to immediately cut all ties with law enforcement or face being made pariahs in their own neighbourhoods.
British Muslim Youth (BMY) warned its members would not be “held responsible for acts of personal self-defence” and said it could no longer trust South Yorkshire Police because of the ongoing “marginalisation and dehumanisation” of Muslims.
Last August a devastating independent report was published revealing how at least 1,400 girls as young as 11 were groomed and sexually exploited over a 14-year period by gangs of predominantly Pakistani men.
South Yorkshire Police and the local council were both savaged for failing to avert the scandal, with officers later claiming they failed to intervene for fear of being branded racist.
But in its message BMY said this was a “pernicious lie” which the police had used to cover up their own scandalous failings.

JOHN SPIELMAN says
the UK is lost unless UKIP or another law and order independent party is elected and deports these evil doers
Marty says
The UK is run by persons who protect & support islam.
The most popular allegedly “right wing” paper is the Daily Mail.
It is today celebrating the return to the UK of a Gitmo detainee, whose case
it has been championing. Even though he’s a Saudi & was in Afghanistan on
a false passport.
On the same front page it has been championing some British fool of a man
who deliberately comforted a mohammedan woman in full KKK regalia, who
was apparently brassed off because no one would sit next to her.
Some kind of “Right Wing” attitudes !
In fairness, the Mail backed Hitler’s National Socialists in the 1930s
Plus ca change!
Jay Boo says
(Don’t talk to the police)
“… the group ordered fellow Muslims to immediately cut all ties with law enforcement or face being made pariahs in their own neighbourhoods.”
Muslims covering up — for other Muslims who rape.
How despicable!
jayell says
Quite. They’re guilty as sin, and they and everyone else knows it. But they’re so pathologically stupid or/and up their own lumbar tuberosities that they persist with this pathetically obsolete attempt at defending the indefensible even though an intellectually-challenged dyslexic orang-utan would be capable of seeing through their patently futile attempts at some kind of self- redemption or self-justification. Actually, my observations of the behaviour patterns of our islamic brethren suggest that an education programme administered by an intellectually-challenged, dyslexic orang-utan might be of great benefit to them. At least, that would seem to be a reasonable conclusion that one might draw from this latest piece of aberrant behaviour from the islamic inmates of that institution for cultural deviants otherwise known as Rotherham. And to think that these specimens have UK passports!! Surely some form of certification for a zoological institution would be more appropriate. (Are you reading this, Mr. Abdullah, assuming that’s your real identity? Now, let’s have a reply, but be a good chap and try to make it intellectually coherent without recourse to the usual bigotted, juvenile islamic mumbo-jumbo that seems to be informed more by testosterone-driven ignorance than anything else that might be vaguely worthwhile).
Marty says
“the group ordered fellow Muslims to immediately cut all ties with law enforcement or face being made pariahs in their own neighbourhoods.”
This is the way all criminal gangs operate.
In the UK informers are called “grasses”, in the US it used to be “stool pigeons”,
The problem with mohammedans is that they are hell bent on destroying us, which is about as
criminal as you can get.
This statement is identical to the sentiments of any criminal organisation of any sort.
Jay Boo says
The (not-so-veiled threat), that “British Muslim Youth (BMY) warned its members would not be “held responsible for acts of personal self-defence”” is yet another example of Muslim shamelessness.
Muslims do not even hold their evil sociopathic buffoon Muhammad accountable.
Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, they even insist Muhammad was a prophet.
el cid says
Under Islamic Law, as understand it, violence is only allowed as “self-defense”. Do I understand correctly?
Therefore, “self-defense” means “violence”. It is a direct threat and should be understood as such.
If the police interfere, the Muslims cannot be held responsible for the violence that they will instigate.
They learn that this is morally acceptable as they see world leaders criticize Israel for Jewish people being attacked by Muslims in Jerusalem. This is confirmation, no?
mortimer says
El Cid wrote: violence is only allowed as “self-defense”.
How do they interpret the term “self-defense” ??
Allah’s ‘honor’ must be defended against those who refuse to worship him.
Muslims have a duty to attack the dirty kafirs in order to force them to live under Sharia law. Raping kafirs is part of jihad according to Mohammed. Mohammed’s example is the law of Islam.
Ender's Shadow says
Probably not:
For Islam’s approach Khomeni in 1942 argued:
‘Islam’s jihad is a struggle against idolatry, sexual deviation, plunder, repression, and cruelty. The war waged by [non-Islamic] conquerors, however, aims at promoting lust and animal pleasures. They care not if whole countries are wiped out and many families left homeless. But those who study jihad will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. All the countries conquered by Islam or to be conquered in the future will be marked for everlasting salvation. For they shall live under [God’s law]…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless.’
Barry M. Rubin and Judith Colp Rubin, eds. Anti-American terrorism and the Middle East: A documentary reader. (Oxford: OUP, 2004) 29.
The 13th century Ibn Taimiya articulates a more comprehensive theological justification for the marauding, arguing that the property of non-Muslims must revert legitimately to the followers of the true religion; Jihad is the means to recover these illegally usurped possession, offering a justification for any Muslim to steal from an infidel. This legitimation of their earlier practice suggests that independent Arab marauders descending on villages to steal did do so with religious sanction. This, occurring in advance of the formal expansion of the Islamic Empire, softens up the target for actual conquest.
Ye’Or, The decline of eastern Christianity under Islam: from jihad to dhimmitude. (Rutherford: Fairleigh Dickinson University Press, US: 1996) 39-40.
dumbledoresarmy says
From the passage you quoted, the abominable Khomeini: ‘Islam’s jihad is a struggle against idolatry, sexual deviation, plunder, repression, and cruelty. The war waged by [non-Islamic] conquerors, however, aims at promoting lust and animal pleasures. They care not if whole countries are wiped out and many families left homeless.”
In other words: bog-standard Mohammedan reversal of reality, with a heaping dollop of projection thrown in.
Because anybody who has waded through the oceans of blood in Andrew Bostom’s “Legacy of Jihad”, or in Serge Trifkovic’s “The Sword of the Prophet”, and contemplated – with shuddering horror – the accounts of the sack of Constantinople, the mass rapes, the jihad in the Sudan, the deeds of Islamic State – can see quite plainly that Islam, and its jihad, involves *precisely* “idolatry [of the Black Stone and allah the arab muslim ‘god’ of blood and war], sexual deviation [paederasty, and sexual perversion of every imaginable kind up to and including necrophilia], plunder, repression, and cruelty.”
And that Muslim jihad the world over – and as most recently flagrantly demonstrated by the Islamic State and Boko Haram with their kidnappings and brutal, sadistic raping and beating and tormenting of little non-Muslim girl victims – has always had a *huge* element focused precisely on “lust and animal pleasures” and that *Muslim* invaders and occupiers “care not if whole countries are wiped out and many families left homeless.”
gravenimage says
El Cid wrote:
Under Islamic Law, as understand it, violence is only allowed as “self-defense”. Do I understand correctly?
…………………………..
Some Muslims hold that only defensive Jihad is permissible in the absence of a Caliph. Many Sunnis, of course, believe that their is now a Caliph in the Islamic State.
But as you surmise, it barely matters–after all, such horrors as 9/11 and other Jihad terror attacks on innocent civilians have been justified as “defensive” Jihad.
Certainly, no Muslim would see resisting arrest or even murdering Infidel police on charges of raping Infidel girls to be the least bit problematic.
epistemology says
This is muzzie chutzpah being caught red-handed, but still claiming victimhood. They complain about the ongoing ‘marginalisation and dehumanisation’ of Muslims. Who marginalised and dehumanised them in the first place? They did it to themselves these subhuman racist monsters. Now they’re blaming and threatening the police. The BMY has no word for the suffering of the real victims and no word about condemning the evildoers. We’ve got to get rid these scumbags asap.
Paul says
One good thing is that the true insanity inhumanity and hypocrisy
of Muhammadanism is being revealed to the whole world,
“let us carry on raping and don’t stop us or you’re a bigot!”. Once
again, this cult shows why it’s about as compatible with the human
race as the bubonic plague, and about as welcome.
quotha raven says
To Paul, who sez “….this cult shows why it’s about as compatible with the human
race as the bubonic plague, and about as welcome.”
About as welcome? So why are Western countries importing them by the millions, more and more every year, no country significantly bucking this suicidal trend? Something here is not adding up. What does this say about out governments?
Cheers!
quotha r
quotha raven says
Sorry, typo: of course I meant “our governments” qr
Paul says
What does this say about our governments? It says that they should
all be executed for trying to shove Muhammadanism down our throats.
That goes for all the idiot leftist pro-‘refugee’ activists too. In an ideal
world, they’d be dropped off in Iraq and Syria. There, they could be
“inclusive”, “tolerant”, “diverse”, respectful” etc., whilst being beheaded.
Noel Eliscu says
The major problem is that the Quran tells Muslims they can lye to non muslims. If the USA does not learn that radicalized muslims are like cancer from a single cell they spread out. Their is no place for them in western society as all they do is suck the very essence of culture from the country plus rape ,steal and overuse social services. They insist that the country change for their ideals. Give me bacon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Babs says
Nothing new here. “Good” Muslims are ordered never to co-operate with the kufr police. It goes hand in hand with never being wrong and always blaming others when they’re found to have broken the law. They are sc*m of the lowest order.
victims and racism says
The muslims cause the pain around the world – yet they have a formula to point you away from that fact. They point out that
1) the muslims are the victims
2) racism is rampant.
So even if they slit your throat or rape you, you are to blame due to your “racism” and “victimisation” of muslims. It is all your fault you had your throat cut, or you were raped because you were victimising others. We never have this problem with Hindus or Buddhism…but that is not the point. You are to blame for not absorbing the beliefs of a camel herder from 1000 years ago.
Islam is NOT a race…it is a fascist political ideology hidden under the veneer of a religion. How it could be termed a religion when it has set out to demonise people that don’t rape, that don’t hate, that don’t kill “unbelievers” etc…it is a sickness. That is what Islam is, but our cultural elites want to destroy Europe by introducing this disease into our countries. It is sick.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The Holy Prophet Mohammed was himself a rapist and pedophile, in addition to seizing thousands of prepubescent girls as sex slaves he sold as booty. So the position taken by the BMY founded by Muhbeen Hussain has a point, harassing those involved in a pubescent Infidel girl rape and pimping operation amounts to discrimination against a religion. Cameron knows this, and will act accordingly.
***
The people running the country at the White House have its own Hussain, Rashad Hussain, who is a Hafiz which means he has a full understanding of Islam. Plus, he is a Yale Man. President Barack Hussein Obama, Columbia Man and Harvard Man, recently appointed Rashad as Special Envoy and Coordinator for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications, a very important position, although I’m not sure what it means cuz the job title is so vague confusing. If PM Cameron finds himself wondering what to do with this upstart Muhbeen Hussain, he should ring up Rashad Hussain to get advice how to counter the racist bigoted terror leveled against one of England’s foremost youth groups.
KrazyKafir says
A veiled warning to the Kuffar that if you inferiors don’t leave us alone, this means war.
Paul says
Bring it on I say, before mad marxist midget Merkel shifts the numerical
balance in their favour.
Joseph says
British Muslim Youth (BMY) warned its members would not be “held responsible for acts of personal self-defence”
__________
When will any politician stand up to the muzzies and tell them that because of their horrendous crime they can no longer guarantee muslim safety from a pissed-off public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PUE8fYxjq8
We will see more of this. Would I blame the victims family for evening the score? If authorities did nothing for the victim and protected the criminal from prosecution…NO. However I would give my opinion on a case by case study.
“But you can’t let the victim take the law into their own hands.”
This would not be necessary if the justice system did their job. When the victim becomes a victim again because of the system would you really blame the family of the injured party?
George S. says
Here are some fascinating (?) facts about Pakistanis from the web; facts about search terms.
Pakistan, Morocco, Turkey and Egypt are at the top of the list when it comes to “animal sex” search term.
For “children sex” search term Pakistan is at #1, Egypt #2 and Iran #3.
For “sexy children” search term (probably the most disturbing) Pakistan leads at #1 followed by Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, followed by Turkey at #9.
For “sexy child” search term Pakistan is #1, followed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey.
Muslim countries also lead in search terms for “goat sex”, “camel sex”, “bird sex” and “fox sex”.
And we in the UK were stunned that 1400 underage girls in Rotherham were groomed and molested and raped by Pakistanis? and now the Pakistani youth are crying “foul” and claiming “victim status”. How they love to lie and twist words to their victimhood.
The Police and the Council are also to blame, but also the Government is to blame for creating a real atmosphere of fear by passing so many silly and pointless PC and MC laws that now indigenous people are afraid to speak their mind or even the truth out of fear of being branded “racist”.
Pakistani and all other Muzzies should be deported from the UK, right now. Put on a boat for the Middle East, and sent packing with their Passports confiscated.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
You put them on a boat to the Mideast and when they get off they’ll loop right on up to Germany and Austria, or if they’re lucky maybe even Sweden. But England would be better off.
As for your Google searches of who’s searching for what forms of perverted sex, well, Moslems are searching people. Inquisitive. And let’s not forget that Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini — not to be confused with Ayathollah Ali Khamenei, whom President Barack Hussein and Secretary Kerry chummingly refer to as the Supreme Leader — issued a fatwa ruling on the dos and don’ts of having sex with goats. This didn’t reflect particularly well on the Persians, nor did his later fatwa ruling on the dos and don’ts of having masturbatory sex with infants and toddlers. But for some reason that never gets in the press. Nor did the fatwa making female Persians as young as 9 yrs old street legal (since rescinded).
Islamophobe and proud says
And where are our politicians if they are not busy out recruiting matey Islamics’ for prominent positions of power? Does David Cameron still insist that Islam is a religion of peace and not a fascist dangerous political ideology that seeks to destroy western freedom and liberty, using those exact virtues to destroy us?
Michael Copeland says
“Mr. Cameron, Islam is Hostile”, at LibertyGB
http://www.libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6923-mr-cameron-islam-is-hostile
mortimer says
Let’s put this conflict of interest and Muslim ENTITLEMENT in point form:
-Muslims are committing crimes (rape, torture, drugs, interfering with minors) according to British law.
-Sharia law says the ‘crimes’ are permissible to Muslims as part of jihad
-Muslims feel entitled to abuse dirty kafirs, since Islam permits it
-Muslims feel aggrieved for being charged and ‘persecuted’ by KAFIR law enforcement
-Muslims feel they have the right to riot and commit vandalism to show their displeasure
Angemon says
Yeah, play the victim and defend the perpetrators. See how far that gets you. Oh, wait – that let you get away with rape for decades.
Don’t talk with the police, or else. Clearly the actions of a community with nothing to hide, right?
Translation: “If we beat you up it’s your own damn fault because you insist on applying your man-made laws to us. Also, allahu akbar and die kuffars”
A fear well placed – any attempt to hold muslims to the same standards and laws as non-muslms is met with cries of “bigotry”, “islamophobia” and “racism”, even if among people of the same ethnicity. How can it be racism if the other side is composed of people of the same ethnicity? “If you put it like that you’re a racist”, that’s how.
But in its message BMY said this was a “pernicious lie” which the police had used to cover up their own scandalous failings.
Huh, not according to the evidence.
Jay Boo says
I’ll RIDE WITH YOU
Are you a non-Muslim who wants to ride the bus safely without being harassed by Muslim bigotry and Muslim rape gangs.
ECAW says
This is the editor of the local paper fulminating:
http://www.thestar.co.uk/what-s-on/editor-s-comment-muslim-group-s-fleeting-boycott-has-done-untold-damage-to-rotherham-1-7541010
As one of the commenters points out it’s rich of him to complain about the national press taking an interest considering the silence of the local press during the rape decades, and that it took a national paper to bring it to light.
somehistory says
How can they be *marginalized* by non moslims when they themselves refuse to think of non moslims as humans deserving of any respect, will not *befriend* any non moslim, etc.?
They put themselves on pedestals and when others don’t look up to them and worship them as they feel they deserve, this is *marginalizing* them and discriminating against them.
They have no rhyme or reason, no logic or thinking ability because they worship a god who doesn’t exist, but is, in actuality, satan.
Their group rape children and then when being prosecuted, they say they will not talk to the police, but will be violent and can’t be held responsible for the violence. What other criminal gang gets away with half that? And unprosecuted violence, rape for which they were not *held responsible* by being arrested, charged, indicted, taken to trial and locked away where no little children were within reach is what started this episode of barbarism.
If they had been *held responsible* from the get-go, if the police hadn’t been living in fear of what moslims might call them, then perhaps not so many children would have been injured and scarred repeatedly for life.
What happened to the police who stood up to being called *p.g* and other terms in order to do their jobs?
A man of integrity, who can find? (Proverbs 10:9)
Jeremiah says
This is a very civilized civil war! They rape our women and we complain. Then when the Courts tell us to pull our heads in, we complain some more. Some 250 years ago, across the pond, people got sick of being raped . . . and they took care of it. For two centuries they were respected!
alyn21 says
Raping of women not considered a crime to these degenerates. And since Britain has allowed them to get away with it for so long the bully tactics are no surprise. Unfortunately since my country Canada has just elected a Muslim lover for Prime Minister the same thing is going to happen here too. People just don’t learn.
pongidae rex says
The UK is stuffing its police departments, local government and civil service with Muslims as fast as it can, but apparently not fast enough to prevent embarrassing leaks.
Winged Hussar 1683 says
If they don’t want the police to investigate and prosecute the offenders with due process of law, perhaps they would prefer for vigilantes (e.g. the droogs from Clockwork Orange) to take matters into their own hands. The problem with vigilantes is that they might beat up or even hang some innocent people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s5zcXccNMY might actually become reasonable, necessary, and desirable at this point if directed solely at the wrongdoers.
gravenimage says
The Droogs weren’t vigilantes–not even rather indiscriminate ones. They were just thugs who beat up, robbed, and murdered old and weak people–rather like Mohammedans themselves.
jimmy says
If you like the idea of becoming second class citizens in your own country, keep electing liberals and leftists who invite millions of muslims to invade our countries and subvert and destroy our cultures.
alyn21 says
That’s what Canada just did
gravenimage says
“British Muslim Youth (BMY) warned its members would not be ‘held responsible for acts of personal self-defence’”
………………………..
This must refer to pious Muslims resisting arrest on charges of rape and pedophilia. And why not? Raping Infidels and abusing underaged girls is perfectly Islamic–as is flouting Infidel authorities.
More:
…and said it could no longer trust South Yorkshire Police because of the ongoing ‘marginalisation and dehumanisation’ of Muslims.
………………………..
Raping and trafficking underaged girls is not marginalizing or dehumanizing–after all, they are “filthy Infidels” and “whores”. But holding Muslims responsible for rape and sex slavery *is* “dehumanizing”.
As Muslims see it, curbing their being able to use the Kaffir locals as sex slaves is abridging their “rights” as Muslims.
Winged Hussar 1683 says
…and said it could no longer trust South Yorkshire Police because of the ongoing ‘marginalisation and dehumanisation’ of Muslims.
“The Crips and Bloods said they could no longer trust the police because of the ongoing marginalization and dehumanization of criminal street gangs and drug dealers.” Got it.
Islam :- the religion of rape says
Let me get this right,
the BMY won’t talk to the Police because the Police might embarrass them about the 1400 girls they think they have the religious right to rape…. ???
F**k those muslims, I’m sure 1400 fathers, 1400 brothers & 1400 boyfriends would love to talk those scum bag muslims given the chance ..
I don’t know if I’m being a bit left wing about this,,, but,?? the police are assisting the muslims by letting them get away with this and NOT making it front page news ..
Decent society is in serious trouble
Winged Hussar 1683 says
“I’m sure 1400 fathers, 1400 brothers & 1400 boyfriends would love to talk those scum bag muslims given the chance ..”
Well, if the Islamists don’t want the police around, then the police won’t be there to protect them when something like that happens.
That’s the problem with Lord of the Flies. When you say you don’t want laws, and will use threats to keep the police away, you can’t expect the laws or the police to protect you. “Outlaw,” in fact, has two meanings: somebody who doesn’t obey the law, and somebody outside the law’s protection. Either could cause the other. E.g. if King John or the Sheriff of Nottingham outlaws Robin Hood and his Merry Men, which means anybody is free to kill them, they have no obligation to obey the law, and can rob from the Sheriff of Nottingham and his men. Alternatively, if a band of murderers kills some innocent people on the King’s highway, they might be placed outside the law’s protection as a result.
In any event, it sounds like these Islamists want to be outside the law. Maybe the police should give them exactly what they want.
Tommo says
“I’m sure 1400 fathers, 1400 brothers & 1400 boyfriends would love to talk those scum bag muslims given the chance ..”
It’s shows an element of restraint that the abused girl’s men didn’t take to the streets and smash a few heads in. Perhaps they’re now wishing they had done so. At least the streets would be save for young women who have become prisoners in their own homes.
Matthieu Baudin says
Well, we’re not going to let this one go; they will just have to face the music this time. The full exposure of the truth will be the best medicine for recovering the dignity of the young people and their families who have been dreadfully humiliated by the initial crimes and the criminal dereliction of duty by local law enforcement authorities and social welfare agencies.
We are so proud of all the people who have held their ground steadfastly for the rights of children throughout Europe.
Westman says
British Muslim Youth (BMY) warned its members would not be “held responsible for acts of personal self-defence”.
So when they attack police in “self defense” and wind up in the Morgue that won’t represent being sufficiently “held responsible”? The BMY Muslim attitude of supremacy is leaking out. Why do those with militant attitudes suffer from so much delusion?
How long before the general populace loses its patience and hostlities begin when police are unable to stop abuses against infidels?
What part of being British does BMY refer? Living in Britain as a citizen with no allegiance to the state or actually having patriotism and serving in the military?
gravenimage says
Laughably, this is what Muhbeen Hussain, founder of British Muslim Youth, had to say when the Rotherdam rape scandal first came to light:
“I’m truly disgusted to see such a report in my home town of Rotherham. The fact these guys were predominantly Pakistani heritage men should not be a reason for providing a cloak of invisibility.
There’s nowhere in the Pakistani culture or the religion of Islam that says child exploitation is allowed – it’s completely forbidden…”
This is, of course, a bald-faced lie–the rape of Infidels and of children is completely Halal, and was practiced by the psychopathic “Prophet”.
But even though the reporting Michael Stone of the Progressive Secular Humanist is clearly appalled and disgusted by this abuse and its enabling and cover up, he is still so ignorant about Islam that he completely swallows the claim that “many area Muslims were outraged”.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2014/08/why-did-the-uk-allow-muslim-gangs-to-rape-and-sexually-traffic-children/
Some of the commenters are more clued in–but some of them are complete dhimmi tools.
dumbledoresarmy says
Gravenimage – when he said – “There’s nowhere in the Pakistani culture or the religion of Islam that says child exploitation is allowed” one should probably assume that he is using Islamic weasel wording. First, he would be bearing in mind the *Muslim* definition of ‘child’ according to which a girl aged nine years or over is ‘legal’ because she’s deemed to have reached puberty and become an ‘adult’. I *think* the girls involved *were* older than nine (many were as young as ten or eleven), so from a sharia Islamic POV they were not ‘children’ and their sexual use was perfectly lawful. Secondly, he would not regard what the Muslim rape gangs were doing, as “exploitation”, in the first place. So he can say Islam forbids “exploitation” of a “child” whilst being perfectly well aware that it doesn’t forbid what the Muslim rape gangs were doing to British non-Muslim underaged girls, at all.
It would be interesting to see what happened if slippery creeps like this ran up against well-informed Kuffar who had a good knowledge of how Islamspeak works, and who were prepared to pull them up, over and over, and insist that they define their terms.
Michael Copeland says
Fear of being called racist is only part of the picture. Jihad Watch featured the French policeman, of some ten years’ service, suspended without pay for two years, and facing a large fine for posting criticism of the Caliph of Islamic State on facebook.
The fear is fear of losing one’s job, and it is not misplaced.
” When you look closely at the demands of the State Prosecutor (five months in prison without parole, plus a three-month suspended sentence, a fine of 2000 euros, being barred for life from public service, being forbidden to carry a firearm for five years, and compulsory psychiatric care), it is clear that they wanted to destroy me.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/france-policeman-suspended-for-two-years-for-criticizing-the-islamic-states-caliph
Shane Brandon says
Hostilities must commence.
We have lost 1400 girls that we know of.The next generation would at least triple that number.Your grandchildren are being groomed for a life of hell.Shame on you,stop talking,stop whining,get on with what needs to be done.Rid Britain of this plague,this scum,that is torturing our way of life.
ECAW says
You first.
bewick says
In fact those Rotherham perpetrators who were not prosecuted are continuing with the sexual exploitation of underage girls. A victim of those already convicted toured Rotherham with a woman reporter. She pointed out men who had assaulted her. At the time they were travelling with, or picking up, other underage girls as though they were above the law. Perhaps it is time that the majority white population started to boycott muslim businesses such as corner shops take-aways and taxis.
bernie says
I just can’t understand why it’s supposedly racist to point out this kind of problem in the Pakistani Muslim community in Britain.
If you visited New York City in 1860, you would have found a place mainly controlled by roving gangs of thugs; black people, when not owned as slaves, were regularly lynched and otherwise murdered and raped simply due to their race. By modern standards, would it it unfair or “racist” to say that many white New Yorkers in that period were uncivilized?
Many of the Pakistani Muslims in Britain today have a similar lack of moral wealth; however, not all of them are like that, just as not all white, 19th-Century New Yorkers were like that either. Thus, it’s not racist to point out (and condemn) the misogyny and anti-kuffar prejudice and intolerance of such Muslims (or the high criminality and anti-black bigotry of many white New Yorkers in the 1960s).
(yes I know, I’ve been reading Sam Harris.)
kevin freer says
What are the fathers brothers boyfriends of these abused doing about this? They must make it a terrible price for these animals the treat the women this way. They pick on women and children not men for a reason. God help the animal that attacks my daughters
Al (L) fed-up says
As a baby-boomer, I often think about what the future holds for my siblings’ children and their children. I feel very fortunate by being born and raised in the USA and I never take that for granted. Studies tell us that in order to sustain a society, a family should reproduce at around 2.2 children per couple. If Islam doesn’t destory the civilized world with their fanaticism and rabid-dog “thinking”in todays world, they will poison & kill-off the peaceful people of the world just by sheer numbers. They are breeding at a rate of around 8.1 children per couple. Americans have become so blinded by our comfort level and quality of life that we have that I don’t think anyone thinks about what the future of the WORLD holds in regard to their children’s well-being. I would, for lack of a better word, be terrified to bring kids into this world. If the muslims don’t incite a WW3 by means of all-out war soon, they will literally just over-run the good people of the world by sheer numbers in the next 50-100 years. Wake-up & smell the coffee, America- forget about how you are going to get that new car every two years,your fantasy football league and who wins American Idol. When you have liberal judges turning the law around to hurt the masses and encouraging Sharia law, such as the muslim beer truck-driver case, it’s time to put our collective feet down.
ECAW says
8.1 children per couple? Where is that…worldwide, in your country, in your town? What is your source?
BC says
Probably exaggeration but 4 is the average. If you just take the ones trying to get to join IS taking kids along or leaving them behind, it is usually 4 or 5 kids. Many Muslim men think nothing of having an extra wife or two on the side, which are not legally recognised but of course they are collecting benefits for the kids as well. So instead of limiting family size they have incentive to have large families
ECAW says
Agreed, anecdotally 4, or 3-4 at least, seems to be about it in Britain. The figures (from a report quoted by the Telegraph a couple of years ago) that stick in my mind are that 5% of the general population are Muslim whereas 10% of under 5’s are. You don’t need to be a mathemetician to work out where we’re heading do you?
voegelinian says
According to a PEW estimate, there will be 455 million more Muslims in the world over the next 20 years.
http://www.pewforum.org/topics/birth-rate-and-fertility/
How many of those millions will be inside the West in addition to the millions already here (UK–nearly 3 million; France–nearly 5 million; Italy–1.5 million; Netherlands—nearly one million; Germany–over 5 million (“Germany’s Muslim population is set to skyrocket by more than 700,000 in 2015, pushing the total number of Muslims in the country to nearly 6 million for the first time” — http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6423/germany-muslim-demographic); Spain—over 1 million, 2030 projection nearly 2 million; etc.)?
Do the Counter-Jihad Softies have any memes to push with regard to their metastasizing demographic aggrandizement – other than “monitoring mosques” and “surveilling obviously extremist bearded Islamists” and “discrediting Islam” or “outlawing the Koran”…? Or do they passively accept this as a modus vivendi fait accompli…?
Angemon says
voegelinian, are you against surveillance of mosques? If so, why? If not, why are you sneering that idea? Also, you’ve supported screening of individuals in airports based ontheir physical features – like, for example, the “obviously extremist bearded Islamists”. Why are you sneering something you approved of?
And the big question is: do you have any meme to push or are you just berating others because you’re a s***ty person that prefers to act like he gets everything better than everyone else instead of simply being a decent human being with something of value to add to the discussion of a complex problem?
voegelinian says
P.S.:
U.S.A.:
“Pew Research has estimated that immigration will cause the population of U.S. Muslims to more than double over the next two decades—from 2.6 million in 2010 to 6.2 million in 2030.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/16/immigration-to-swell-u-s-muslim-population-to-6-2-million/
Canada:
“By 2030, 6.6% of Canada’s population is projected to be Muslim, up from 2.8% in 2010.”
http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2014/05/canadas-expanding-muslim-population.html
Top 5 Latin American countries:
Argentina: 784,000
Brazil: 191,000
Mexico: 110,000
Venezuela: 94,000
Suriname: 83,000
http://www.latintimes.com/ramadan-2015-latin-america-where-are-latino-muslims-323449
(combined + other regional countries (Mexico, over 110,000–http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2013/07/29/muslim-converts-in-mexico-make-up-diverse-fast-growing-community/ ) — puts it at perhaps over 2 million)
Lynn says
Google it. They will readily tell you they will takeover every country if only by birth. One man 4 wives and they say 22 children. You do the math on our long suggested “just replace yourself” BS…
RonaldB says
Actually, 8.1 natural rate of increase is not so much for Muslim or pre-literate societies.
Check out the following figures:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_natural_increase
Syria, for example, has a rate of natural increase of 20.74. The rate of natural increase is the crude birth rate per 1000 in a year, minus the crude death rate.
By the way, there is no reason why an advanced society has to match the increase of primitive countries, as long as borders are maintained and a strong civil defense is established. But, you have to be willing to shoot invaders approaching your fences, and to maintain your civil defense, so countries like Iran can’t threaten you with easy aggression like electro-magnetic impulse weapons.
ECAW says
8.1 natural rate of increase per 1000 people per year is a completely different thing to 8.1 children per couple.
Miao Zedong says
“By the way, there is no reason why an advanced society has to match the increase of primitive countries, as long as borders are maintained and a strong civil defense is established”
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Got an tell Merkel. Simply reminding people that rifles and sidearms are not meant to be decorative will brand you as someone wanting to turn on the gas and kill babies.
In practice – you are at risk of looing your job.
What then ? Wait and see how to good-doer get butchered first. I’m raising my concerns in a civilized manner at every opportunity but in the end the sheer violence will instantly turn all affected against islam.
Recently a red-cross helper has been raped. You know what ? The raper was deported from Austria to Germany and the nurse asked to shut her mouth.
We are a society of civilized after all – don’t make barbarian look like barbarians. They might never recover from our hars verdict….
EYESOPEN says
Here is a novel idea: Cut off the welfare “bennies”, and the muzloid scum could not continue to have anywhere from 4-8 children (or whatever the latest tally may be).
I know, it is such a simple solution that no politician would ever think of it.
BC says
“held responsible for acts of personal self-defence” This of course is the standard Islamic claim they are not attacking but simply defending themselves. Unfortunately it is unlikely that the courts will accept that view when they are charged with unlawful actions
voegelinian says
All Islamic “self-defense” is analogous to a white KKK racist who lynches a black man simply because he’s black and shouldn’t be living in his town and then claims that he was only “defending his community” — analogous to, and immeasurably worse.
Radegunda says
In Islam-speak, a failure to “submit” to Islam constitutes an attack on Islam, whereas any Muslim who attacks you to make you “submit” is merely defending Islam.
It really is a sick, sick ideology.
SoCalMike says
The West has to wake up.
Not just the supremacist Muslims need to go but the Leftist occupiers too.
They are THE enemy aliens that keep bringing in more Muslims even as Muslims wage war on the West.
The Left is at the core and root of this problem.
Lynn says
Soros is funding this invasion by supporting a lot of the enablers. He’s making it easier in fact possible.
EYESOPEN says
True. But Soros is far from being the only one. Just get a gander of so many of these tax-free “foundations”; and see where much of their money goes.
steve says
Time for a ‘Muslim whisperer’ , …….seems to work on rabid dogs……better than a civil war ??? or did that start with Lee Rigby ??
voegelinian says
Rotherham is where police stood by and allowed Muslim rape gangs to abduct and destroy the lives of 1,400 non-Muslim girls, and did nothing for fear of being branded “racist.” — Robert Spencer
Paging the FOPs on the white courtesy phone…
Also see this recent Daily Mail story, about a black woman in London who boarded a bus and shouted invectives at Muslim women on the bus, and look at how the Daily Mail characterizes the incident:
She referred to them as ‘sandbags’ and ‘f***ing Isis bitches’ in the racist rant
The Daily Mail is throwing a non-Muslim black woman under the bus in order to favor the poor Muslim victims which it evidently considers a race, since it was “racist” for the black woman to castigate them (without, it should be pointed out, using any racial language herself).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275447/Vile-racist-rant-London-bus-caught-camera.html
Angemon says
Who are the “FOPs”, voeg? And why are you paging them?
Talk outwards using clear and concise language, and say what you want to say in a manner that others can comprehend the message you’re trying to convey – most, if not all of us, are not mind readers…
Jean Terry says
I have wondered why people and governments are not more concerned about the large childbirth rate among a lot of Muslims. I have also wondered why England has allowed so many of these people into their country. I realize that there are many who are good citizens but it looks like the few are dominating and getting away with all kinds of things. They want to live like they were in the shariah law middle east. They should be grilled before they come into a country and told that they MUST live according to the democratic values of that country. Of course, lying comes naturally and is encouraged in order to achieve what you want. I believe Margaret Thatcher predicted this would happen by allowing all of this non-western immigration. Europe and England will not be recognizable in a few years.
abad says
Like this Muslim genius?:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3293843/Father-claimed-benefits-10-years-says-not-irresponsible-having-ELEVEN-children-god-s-command-forth-multiply.html
11 miniature jihadis and all on welfare.
Muslims contribute nothing productive to civilized society. They never have and never will.
abad says
“ongoing “marginalisation and dehumanisation”
Actually, Muslims do a very good job of doing that all to themselves.
Muslims hardly need the help of non-Muslims to “marginalize and dehumanize” them.
With their barbaric screeches of “Allahu Akhbar as they bring heir scimitars upon non-Muslim throats and rape little non-Muslim girls because that is what their pedophile prophet does.
Then they wonder why a lot of people do not consider them members of the human race.
EYESOPEN says
How, specifically, does one “boycott” police? Inquiring minds want to know.
David Boyd says
Get over it with the minutae, its a war, you’re losing, grow a spine and perhaps a brain , conscience etc.
Aussie Fightback says
Islam is worldwide problem in the West today, after the relgion fails in M East. If British dont know howto “fightback, Search in Facebook – non extreme Reclaim Australia, Australian Liberty Alliance.party, which is making grounds.