What? Paris churches? Why? Did someone in them draw Muhammad, or “provoke” Muslims and “poke them in the eye” in some other way? This sort of thing can be cleared up in a jiffy with some “dialogue.” The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which understands very well that the dialogue must be preserved at all costs and all activities that offend Muslims must be ended immediately, should send an emissary or two over to Raqqa to explain the true, peaceful Islam to the caliph of the Islamic State and his followers.
Perhaps an Eastern Catholic bishop, one with an Arabic background and a sterling record of silencing and ostracizing those who speak out against Muslim persecution of Christians, could take one of his trusted priests, one who knows that those who oppose jihad and Islamic supremacism are an ongoing danger to the church, and they could go over to Raqqa together and explain to the caliph that Islam is at its core a Religion of Peace, as long as Christians don’t cross any red lines and do anything to goad the poor dears into doing something violent — violence for which the Christians would be entirely responsible, of course. They could apologize in advance for anything the French churches (if not the WWE) may have done to offend the Muslims, and promise never, ever to do it again.
“Anonymous says ISIS planning attacks in US, Paris, elsewhere Sunday,” by Bradford Richardson, The Hill, November 21, 2015:
The hacker collective Anonymous says the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is planning to launch attacks in the U.S., Paris, Indonesia, Italy and Lebanon on Sunday.
OpParisIntel, the name of Anonymous’ mission against ISIS, released a statement Saturday saying it had uncovered information regarding new terror plots “on Paris and the world” scheduled for Nov. 22.
“All proof was submitted to official authorities all around the globe days ago,” the statement said, as first reported by the International Business Times. “They have it and it is their responsibility to do something with it. But because they have not done anything with it yet and it’s almost the 22nd, we have matters into our own hands.”
“We only take the responsibility of warning civilians (incase [sic] the authorities do not act well enough),” the statement added.
Anonymous warned against attending events with large crowds, especially church services, but added that “the risk of any churches outside Paris/France being targeted is low.”
The group listed several events in Paris that it said “have been confirmed are at risk” and several events around the world that are not yet “100% confirmed,” including a major WWE pro wrestling event in Atlanta, Ga.
“The goal is to make sure the whole world, or at least the people going to these events, know that there have been threats and that there is possibility of an attack to happen,” the statement continued….

Renee says
May their plans fail.
And I will sing in church.
Dr. Divinity says
Even if no attacks take place they have planted the seeds of FEAR…and that is exactly what they intend to do.
Remember this: FEAR IS THE CATALYST THAT FUELS ISLAM AND THE KORAN IS THE VEHICLE THAT DRIVES IT. I made up this saying….seems to fit.
somehistory says
Hackers getting the word out…doing a better job than the governments are doing. Haven’t seen any other news about specific attacks, only denials that specifics are known.
Being made aware that being in a crowd on Sunday is specific enough for some to take precautions.
gravenimage says
Yes. I have mixed feelings as a rule about Anonymous–but they are on the side of the angels here.
Angemon says
somehistory posted:
“Hackers getting the word out…doing a better job than the governments are doing. ”
Well, they are unrestrained by laws and PC.
Salome says
My thoughts were: ‘I don’t really like this Anonymous crowd, but they are sure showing up the government hackers’ inadequacies.’ Then it dawned: intelligence available to governments is probably to the same effect, but security agencies are choosing not to blab it out to the public. That would be a strategic decision, I expect–who knows whether it’s better all out in the open, or simply acted upon on the quiet.
quotha raven says
To Salome, who sez “who knows whether it’s better all out in the open, or simply acted upon on the quiet.”
You’re forgetting a third possibility, and the one I think more likely: shove it under the rug and do NOTHING!
Cheers!
quotha raven
jihad3tracker says
Hmmm . . . Let me think for a moment . . . .
OK, MAYBE JW READERS IN ATLANTA OR WITH FRIENDS IN ATLANTA SHOULD HAVE THE LEA IN THAT CITY WARNED —- ALSO START SUBSCRIBING TO ROBERT’S BLOG.
Utis says
Yesterday, the Buddhas and Palmyra. Tomorrow, Notre Dame de Paris, Stonehenge, the Great Wall of China, Ise, Chichen Itza, et cetera ad nauseum. Rome, Athens, the Forbidden City will be rubble. Ditto any museum. Mozart, Beethoven, even Elvis and the Beatles will be “forbidden” into oblivion. When it happens, anyone who is “shocked” has the IQ of an Easter egg.
Renee says
Scrambled as well
Blitz2b says
Yes it’s true, and when all those works of art all over Europe are rubble, our western politicians will chime the same old swan song… ie: “It had absolutely nothing to do with Islam”…
Steve says
This can’t be true because Hillary Clinton and John Kerry keep telling everyone that islam is a religion of peace.
Westman says
“The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which understands very well that the dialogue must be preserved at all costs and all activities that offend Muslims must be ended immediately, should send an emissary or two over to Raqqa to explain the true, peaceful Islam to the caliph of the Islamic State and his followers.”
Not to offend any Catholic adherents, I have Catholic family members, but I read this morning where the Vatican has locked a man in its own private jail and plans to start trials next month for some “Snowden” style leaker of corruption in the Vatcan. Where did it get the authority to be above the civil law of Italy?
It struck me that the Vatican seems to be similar to the ISIS Caliphate and the European no-go areas in that it is a law unto itself, though not Sharia. The Popes of old were historically heavily involved in controlling the geography of what became modern Europe. Is it possible that Muhammad or his 8th and 9th century creators used the Roman church as an model in setting up a theocracy?
The original city fathers of Mecca made money from the pilgrims who came to worship their particular god or gods. The Christian apostle Paul also is described as asking about the multiple gods of Rome including the unknown god. It would likely appear obvious to Muhammad or his makers that the Mecca fathers were unable to exercise much political/economic control with a multiple-god multiple-theology arrangement that had no single representative of god. The final monotheistic prophet- that’s power.
I wonder if one reason the Vatican is reluctant to criticise Daesh or Islam in general, is that there are too many historical similarities?
AnneCrockett says
The Vatican is a country independent of Italy, so Italian laws don’t apply.
Having said that, I wonder how the Vatican can justify prosecuting these leaks. Some journalists and clerics leaked information that exposed alleged corruption, theft and uncontrolled spending by the Vatican. Let the Vatican either prove the accusations to be false or fix the problem.
The corruption in the church is a disgrace, and the church’s habit of covering up corruption is a scandal.
Ernie says
And the kissing of the unholy qur’an by pope Francis when he was in Turkey sometime ago , that was a disgrace aswell .
kay says
Re : “And the kissing of the unholy qur’an by pope Francis” as disgrace
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I don’t know how to say this. But it is super important:
Not just a “disgrace”. More of a miserable effing unrecoverable disaster for western civilization.
The repercussions are basically endless. All the Roman Catholics are now OFFICIALLY dhimmi! Per John Paul 2 and Pope Francis both.
There is no way to forgive this. None whatever. Can’t be undone. It’s confirmed at the highest level. Done.
With friends like Pope Francis, does western civ even need any enemies? ?
How can the Vatican POSSIBLY survive such a self-destructive blunder? What Way Forward Could They Possibly Have?
If these carpet pilots – including all the Salafists and Wahabis – are “co-religionists” to the Roman Catholics, then what does the Vatican stand for? What is left for them?
The Koran is a completely corrupt text, it is self-contradictory, it is criminal, it is a war manual, it is hateful and it rejects Judaism and the New Testament. The chapters are in the wrong order and it is not even readable!
Why would anyone think that is okay as an extension of the Laws and the Prophets?
Who would fall for this garbage? It’s all just the ravings of a demented criminal psychopath / narcissistic egomaniac. Lots of people need to wake up.
Islam is a dangerous, virulent disease. It is a plague.
John Stefan Obeda says
Let us all realize that according to some official documents which I will name the popes believe that the god of Islam is the same God of the Bible, the God of Christians. The documents are: Nostra Aetate [Declaration on the Relation of the church to non-Christian religions] Oct 28, 1965. Another: Lumen Gentium [Dogmatic Constitution on the Church] The entire document can be found at http://abbey.apana.org.au/Council/vatican2/V2church.Htm). I hope that I copied it correctly. I’ll quote the appropriate sentence: “But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Moslems: these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”
Let it be known that it is not possible for anyone to “adore the one merciful God,” who rejects His beloved Son who came to live and died and risse again from the dead for the salvation of the world from sin and eternal death and the power of the devil.
gunga din says
Anne: Father Malachi Martin, long deceased now said in quite a few interviews that there were unscrupulous priests and stafff memebers inbedded in the Vatican…..Too bad he’s long gone… may he Rest in Peace – although I feel he’s probably spinning in his grave seeing what’s happened to the Catholic Church and the Vatican.
rosaria says
And what religion are you exactly ? Probably lapsed catholic there is nothing wrong with the pope showing respect for another persons religion why should he hate and contradict exactly why there is such hate and war in the world.
Peggy says
rosaria says
November 22, 2015 at 3:25 pm
And what religion are you exactly ? Probably lapsed catholic there is nothing wrong with the pope showing respect for another persons religion why should he hate and contradict exactly why there is such hate and war in the world.
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You’re right, there is nothing wrong with showing respect to other religions but Islam is a DEATH CULT not a religion. Showing respect to evil is evil in itself. That’s not the only sin the Pope has committed. He doesn’t even try to protect the Catholics so I don’t know why you defend him when he is willing to serve you up on a silver platter.
Do you follow a Pope blindly no matter what because he is the head of your religion? This makes you just a silly as the Muslims. At least Christianity is not dangerous. If it was then we would have a problem with you too.
gravenimage says
Westman wrote:
It struck me that the Vatican seems to be similar to the ISIS Caliphate and the European no-go areas in that it is a law unto itself
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*Really*? I have some issues both with the current Pope and the Vatican in general, Westman, but comparing them to ISIS–or blaming Catholicism for the rise of Islam–is, I’m afraid, just false moral equivalence.
Westman says
Graven, Sorry, you missed my meaning. It wasn’t about any moral equivalence of doctrines but rather physical organization, both declaring themselves to be above the civil law of and organizing a defined space within another nation. Is this untrue?
As I wrote, I have family Catholic members, and have no animosity toward Catholics.
What I was suggesting is that Islam’s original organization, not doctrine, may have been the model partially used because it’s effectiveness could be seen by the time “Muhammad” came along. Why would it be Catholicism’s fault if another religion copied organizational aspects of it?
Truth 101 says
And why should the Vatican relinquish its city-state status? Do any other nations do this?
I understand your analogizing of Islam to the Vatican, but it’s not really an apt analogy. The Catholic Church has, and has always had, an official teaching body to determine official Catholic doctrine. Islam has no corresponding body, only a set of three books to be interpreted as any given Imam pleases. This leads to “governance by the mob” or by some warlord (Imam) leading a mob. (Of course, the Church would still have problems with its own interpretations if it weren’t led by the Holy Spirit, which I believe it is. This doesn’t mean its prelates can’t make flawed statements and take stupid positions, but it does mean that the Church won’t err in matters of FAITH and DOGMA, the things that count over the long haul — millennia.)
It also is hard for people to grasp the Vatican’s state as a state because they take separation of church and state as supposition. It may not be a correct one, especially since “civil law” cannot be just unless it reflects, truth, higher law.
Remember that Sir Thomas More, the Christian abolitionists, Maximilian Kolbe and many others violated civil law in justice’s name.
The Muslims aren’t wrong because they place religious ahead of civil law. They’re wrong because they have the wrong religious law.
gravenimage says
Thanks so much for your reply, Westman. Certainly, Islam did (very superficially) model itself after Christianity and Judaism, hoping to gain unearned legitimacy from those two faiths.
But Muhammed and the other early Muslims had more contact with eastern Christianity (there had been no formal break yet, but the fissures were there). His reference to “Rum” (Rome) was not to Rome itself, but to the Byzantine Empire.
I think this was more his frame of reference than was the Vatican itself. No tin any way to blame eastern Christianity for this monstrous warlord, either, of course.
Timothy says
“The Popes of old were historically heavily involved in controlling the geography of what became modern Europe.” – Ever hear of the Holy Roman Empire?
“The Christian apostle Paul also is described as asking about the multiple gods of Rome including the unknown god.” This was also prior to the burning of Rome and the eventual conversion to Christianity a couple of hundred years later. Paul’s question was to the people of Rome who erected all those altars. Paul said: “I know your unknown God. Let me reveal him to you.”
The Vatican cannot refute ISIS or Islam because the RC Church has it’s own problems with being true to their own faith. How are they able to offer criticism when they cannot be true representatives of Christ? They are more concerned with their own power.
TH says
Do yourself and readers a favor by not wasting your time writing such ridiculous commentaries. Instead use your time getting some basic education.
Renee says
And could you speak for yourself only?
Thank you.
KelZat says
The Vatican? Laughable to expect any moral leadership from them. I was raised a Catholic. My mother went to the sedevecantist side of Catholic debate and I was then raised in that tradition. I’m no longer Catholic but I can say I am grateful for having been raised as such. I believe if someone chooses to be Catholic SSPX and the sedevecantists are pretty much the only real choices out there.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer asked for someone to advise the Pope about Islam: “Perhaps an Eastern Catholic bishop, one with an Arabic background”
How about Fr Henri Boulad, SJ of Alexandria, Egypt?
Boulad wrote: “Islamism is not a caricature, nor a counterfeit, nor a heresy, nor a fringe or atypical phenomenon versus classical, orthodox, Sunnite Islam.
To the contrary, I think Islamism is naked Islam, Islam without a mask and without paint, Islam perfectly consistent and true to itself, an Islam that has the courage and lucidity to go all the way to its ultimate conclusions and final implications.
Islamism is Islam in all its logic and in all its rigour. Islamism is present in Islam as the chick is present in the egg, as the fruit is present in the flower and as the tree is present in the seed.
But what is Islamism?
Islamism is political Islam, the bearer of a project for a model society and whose aim is to establish a theocratic state based on Sharia, the only legitimate law—since it is divine—since it was revealed and enshrined in the Koran and Sunna—it’s a law that applies to everything.
Here is an all-inclusive and all-encompassing project, one that is total, totalizing and totalitarian.”
Pope Francis should bring Boulad to Rome immediately to clue him in about Islamic totalitarianism, supremacism and its threat to the Roman Catholic Church.
kay says
Re: Fr Henri Boulad, SJ
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Yeah. TRUTH. That’s it in a nutshell. There’s one Jesuit who knows his stuff.
Looks like the Jesuits really have their work cut out for them now.
I still like my definition of Islam the very best:
Islam is Sharia and jihad. For details, see Andrew Bostom’s books.
gravenimage says
My mother-in-law lives in Atlanta. Nowhere is safe from these pious Jihadists.
Westman says
I also have relatives there who, thankfully, would never be at a WWE event. The idea that terrorist cells are in Atlanta makes me worry about the future. Hope yours also remain safe, Graven.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Westman. I don’t think my elderly mom-in-law is likely to go to Survivor Series, either.
But believe it or not, I’m something of a fan–as is my husband (both of us with tongues firmly planted in cheek, mind you). He went to Wrestlemania when it was held at Levi’s Stadium earlier this year.
But of course it doesn’t matter whether one is a fan of pro-wrestling oneself or not–the idea of ISIS hitting any big even–be it at Philips Arena in Atlanta or the Stade de France in Paris–is deeply disturbing, and could result in the murder of thousands.
gravenimage says
And a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, Westman.
Westman says
Thanks Graven. I hope there are no further incidents to spoil our county’s Thanksgiving. As I get older I am more thankful each year for the great life I have enjoyed and realize that only by some miracle I came to live here.
I hope you have a loving Thanksgiving with your special ones, Graven. I’m going to hug mine a little longer this year.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Westman. Same to you!
Mike says
Radical Islam has no problems with Christians, so long as they don’t breathe.
I like this guy’s comments:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/canon-andrew-white-vicar-of-baghdad-on-
leading-a-church-in-iraq-and-being-in-the-crosshairs-of-isis-a6716616.html
kay says
Re : Anonymous warned against attending events with large crowds, especially church services, but added that “the risk of any churches outside Paris/France being targeted is low.”
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Oh jeez, I get it now. There is huge long-term risk to major churches in the West.
Especially in New York City and Paris. And maybe Moscow too.
They need a serious perimeter around Notre Dame Cathedral and whatever major cathedral is in NYC. I think it’s called St. John’s Cathedral.
It’s so obvious. I have a really bad feeling about this. The Rodents of Unusual Size are going to target a big cathedral or two. At some point.
They’ve nailed several churches and at least one mosque in Nigeria.
I am going to be so pissed. This is war on civilians.
The Amended Geneva Convention On Warfare simply does not apply.
quotha raven says
To Kay, who sez “They need a serious perimeter around Notre Dame Cathedral and whatever major cathedral is in NYC. I think it’s called St. John’s Cathedral.”
I think you must be referring to St Patrick’s, right across the street from Rockefeller Plaza (appropriately, rather like Trinity Church staring right across at Wall Street…),
Cheers!
quotha raven
bernie says
Kay: during the 9/11 attacks, one of the buildings that was destroyed was Saint Nicholas’ Greek Orthodox Church, which was brought down from some of the falling debris from the 2 WTC Twin Towers (and possibly also from the shorter, 3rd WTC Tower which also collapsed).
JM says
Well,if this is their idea of winning people over, they sure have a lot to learn. Not sure why they are so cruel and unjust all I know is they sure a emtpy, and soul-less group that has been very misguided but some very ugly people.
Jay Boo says
There is the FUNGUS that we can clearly see when it encroaches and then there is the residue that remains without a thorough disinfection by scrubbing.
So called moderate Muslims do not really see this as (their problem) – yet.
Donovan Nuera says
If they hurt a single parishioner or crack a single stone of Notre Dame de Paris, the Kaabouthouse should be droned without any warning. May Our Lady protect her children…and the undercover security guards patrolling L’ile de Paris. That goes for the Basilica of St. Denis and all the local churches. For that matter, all the wondrous cathedrals in France need permanent heavily-armed guards.
Islam :- the hateful religion of chaos says
Anonymous Declared War against Isis
Added: Thursday, November 19th, 2015
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Current Events
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, http://www.extratorrent.cc, 2015
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The well-known hacking collective Anonymous announced itself “at war” with the Islamic State following the attacks in Paris, expanding its “#OpISIS” online campaign. The continuation of operation was announced on 15 November via one of the major Anonymous twitter accounts, @GroupAnon.
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The group has published a video (originally in French), where a figure wearing Anonymous’ iconic Guy Fawkes mask addressed the terror group and promised to hunt them down. In the meantime, a loosely related group of hackivists named BinarySec has also confirmed its online stance against Isis.
The industry watchers confirm that opposition to Isis is nothing new amongst hacktivist communities. For example, both BinarySec and Anonymous, more broadly, have been disrupting jihadi online communications for a while now. Their operation began early in 2015 as #OpCharlieHebdo, where Anonymous devoted themselves to rooting out the social media accounts of Isis supporters.
The hackers declared a partial victory in #OpISIS already in February, after they managed to seize control of about 100 Twitter accounts associated with the group. Since February, Anonymous have made use of various tools to hinder Isis on the Internet. They seized social media accounts by guessing passwords or abusing reset emails or flagged them to either Twitter or Facebook to be shut down.
Besides, the hacking group has been using such tools as DDoS attacks, which are designed to overwhelm a destination website with traffic, in order to bring down public Islamic State sites. According to statistics, the hackers have had success, bringing down almost 150 websites, flagging over 100,000 Twitter accounts and reporting about 5,000 propaganda videos.
Posted by: SaM
Date: Thursday, November 19th, 2015
Copied from Extorrent ……… Go Anonymous, !!!!!!
? says
You know your on the wrong side of the bed and your world is screwed up and Guy Fawkes of, all people, is the one fighting and exposing terrorism.
P.S. I don’t watch wrestling but I would love to see Brock Lesnar F-5 and beat the Shi’ite out of a terrorist and hear Jim Ross commentating–now I would pay to see that.
This is the reaping 666
adnan says
Peace be upon you guys I’m a Muslim. I’m here to clear some of the misconceptions and lies that were spread about Islam….first: Muslims are not violence because you can ask any Muslim about violence they will tell you that holy quran told us to not be violent in any way. Even the way of speaking but I have to say that this was really really bad thing to do… lying on Muslims by saying halal food….OK first why don’t you people think that also the Jews have haram food in fact they have more limitations in food than muslims yet nobody is trying to figure out that they are behind all the big problems in the world all against Islam despite the fact Muslims where the only people who helped them when they were kicked out of Europe by (christians) yes. And even christians can’t eat pork neither drink alcohol but they don’t obey jesus as they say we muslims obay jesus more than the christians and we obay moses more than the Jews but the media keeps lying and lying about Islam because all the media is own by zionests who wants nothing but to hold the whole world under their clutch because they think that other people are all animals and the word jihad doesn’t mean : to kill bur it means to struggle and defend….it doesn’t mean: the holy war .. as the ( English..and non Arabic dictionaries says ) you can ask any learned Arabic Muslim about this word …..and Islam is not spread by the sword because first: if you ask any nation that were ruled by muslims for long times like India…everyone will tell you that’s correct .. but the British.americans( also israel) and the Europeans tried to destroy Islam for their own selfish reasons they are responsible for each destructive wars in the world and they were responsible for the nuclear bombs disasters on hiroushima Japan…..yet they call themselves peace preachers……(isis)nothing true about is bein said. A lot of things can prove you wrong
quotha raven says
Nice post, Adnan. Sarc off. I’ve rarely a more obtuse, moronic comment here. You DO characterize the so-called moderate muslim. Hope you don’t live in my back yard. You’re stupid, twisted, anti-Semitic and dangerous.Yours is a needed voice here at JW to remind readers how toxic muslims are. Come back soon!
Cheers!
quotha raven.
Bridget Ames says
The USCCB is such a joke many practicing Catholics have picked up on this for years, but sadly many other do not. The men who tend to achieve the power care very little about sacrilege and desecration of God’s churches. This false notion of dialogue is so they can feel like they have a more a role in the world and can gain money in some way. It is unfortunate that the souls of the faithful are not their main aim and the protection of the sacred. When you are not grateful for what you have God will take it away. Hopefully though in the spirit of Lot he will save a preserve for those who have great love for the things of God. But the Eastern churches have been attacked for years and it is about time the West realize and step up. Once they do maybe the Orthodox, Eastern orthodox, and Roman rites will all be united once more. One could only hope.
bill shackelford says
Truth 101 – Ever bit as disconnected and goofy as those who proclaim allegiance to the “other” form of superstition.