What? Don’t only racist, bigoted Islamophobes believe in the existence of no-go zones? Isn’t that what the Times was telling us at the beginning of the year?
“Belgian Minister Says Government Lacks Control Over Neighborhood Linked to Terror Plots,” New York Times, November 15, 2015:
Belgium’s home affairs minister said that the government does not “have control of the situation in Molenbeek,” a working-class neighborhood of Brussels that has been linked to several terrorism plots in recent years.
Speaking on the VRT television channel on Sunday, the minister, Jan Jambon, said that the government would “step up efforts” to bring order to the area of the Belgian capital….
Prime Minister Charles Michel of Belgium said he was also concerned about jihadist networks in Molenbeek.
“I notice that each time there is a link with Molenbeek,” he said. “This is a gigantic problem. Apart from prevention, we should also focus more on repression.”
Belgian officials had said that the brother of one of the men suspected to be Paris attackers was arrested on Saturday in Molenbeek.

somehistory says
Why is this not surprising? Wherever moslims are allowed to be a law unto themselves…there is no law and they are lawless, living by the unlawful rule of islam.
ballotcode says
there is no law and they are lawless
Spawn of the lawless one.
Nora says
SO ISLAMS ARE OPENLY ALLOWED TO FORM THEIR OWN ISLAM NATION WITHIN BELGIUM.
IS THIS REAL?????
quotha raven says
to Nora – If you read the qur’an and get the picture, you will understand that every single mosque in the world is the center of an Islamic Nation, part of the global caliphate. This is nothing NOTHING new. IT IS AT THE CENTER OF ISLAMIC JIHAD AND AT THE CENTER OF ANY THEOCRACY. This concept is crucial to the totalitarian Muslim theocracy. This is one feature of Islam that makes it wrong to refer to Islam as a “religion”. It is a THEOCRACY and embraces religion and a whole lot more.
Belgium? Nora, this is happening right here in the USA. See Tennessee, LA, cities around Detroit, Dearborn, Minnesota…my dear, I hate to be the one to wake you up (and if you understand this, you may well experience insomnia), but this is the fundamental nature of Islam and any theocracy. Islam establishes a mosque and it is the hub of a “new” Muslim nation. This is happening all over Europe and all over the world, wherever you find mosques, not just in Belgium, Nora. There are “no-go” areas – which means sharia law is being imposed and local police simply avoid law enforcement in the area – in Paris, London, Stockholm, Malmo, Copenhagen, Amsterdam…and any number of other cities and towns.
I wish I had a web site handy for you to explain the situation, but I don’t. Perhaps taking Robert Spencer’s “Islam 101” would be helpful. I think you would find it enlightening, and it’s right on the JW site. Give it a shot, or google things.
You are on the right path, and your outrage is appropriately placed but insufficient!
Cheers!
Quotha Raven
quotha raven says
Re: “… AT THE CENTER OF ANY THEOCRACY.”
Nora – I misspoke above. I don’t know whether this expansionist aspect of Islam applies to “any theocracy” – I got carried away. So I’d like to retract that statement. Rest assured, though, that it does apply to Islam. I should have just kept this observation to mosques and Islam.
Cheers! qr
Charli Main says
That’s why Saudi Arabia has a billion dollar mosque building fund. That’s why the Saudis have openly stated that they will fund the building of 200 mosques in Germany and no doubt tens of thousands every where else in Europe.
Building a mosque in Dar al Harb, for Muslims, has the same significance as an invading force planting their national flag.
It makes the statement THIS IS OUR LAND NOW.
quotha raven says
Charli Main – You are right about the significance of mosques and the big plan to fund and build thousands more of them.At this point, just for fun, I’d like you and everybody else to recall the first thing Muslims funded by SA did after 9/11.
That’s right, they announced that they would build a victory mosque on the site of the former World Trade Center, as an eternal reminder to their victims of that feather in their cap.
Now. Do you remember Mayor Bloomberg’s reaction to that plan? When citizens who lived through that act of war and its aftermath objected and said “oh, no you don’t”, HE STUCK UP FOR THE MUSLIMS’ RIGHT TO BUILD THEIR VICTORY MOSQUE and spat in the faces of the citizens he was supposed to serve.
Plus que ca change plus que c’est la meme chose, non?
Cheers!
quotha raven
Jeremiah says
There is your answer.
We can prevent further attacks by raiding mosques, jailing Imams and identifying those who teach the Koran. Then we don’t need to respond, we don’t need to fight it and we don’t need to defeat it. There is no reason for people to continue to live in fear except for Political Correctness. There is no need to fight all muslims, only those who object to the closure of mosques. There is no need to kill on a large scale, only those who are willing to defend Islam. It is Islam and its teaching which is our enemy! All this talk about trying to find terrorists is nonsense. All this fear is misplaced. Only Political Correctness can kill us. No need to “flag” anybody on a terror watch list. Bring them all in for questioning. Just close the mosques! The mosques contain the terror entire network that we are looking for. No terror network exists outside the mosques, so why are we avoiding mosques?
quotha raven says
Jeremiah – Sometimes I think the 21st Century is beyond common sense, that common sense is a sort of fuddy-duddy concept, an antiquated, atavistic trait.
Cheers!
quotha raven
jura says
The best video about islamization of Europe is Allah Islam by Dvi Yehezkeli. Available on youtube.
mortimer says
Nora wrote: “SO ISLAMS ARE OPENLY ALLOWED TO FORM THEIR OWN ISLAM NATION WITHIN BELGIUM.”
Yes…the Belgian police have admitted there are now ‘several’ NO-GO ZONES in Belgium where Muslims have built alternate, exclusive enclaves.
Muslims want to build parallel societies in Europe which will subsequently take over from the mainstream and lead to total Islamization.
quotha raven says
TO Mortimer – Exactly right. Clear, too! Cheers! qr
Dr. Divinity says
Is there no Belgan army???Move tanks into these areas….Be tough Belgium or be dead.
Shane says
Yes, and the only way to stop it is to send in the police backed by the military to capture Muslim criminals, terrorists, and terrorist sympathizers. This will not happen unless many more jihad attacks occur in Europe.
Dr. Divinity says
Is there no Belgan army???Move tanks into these areas….Be tough Belgium or be dead.
jihad3tracker says
****** WARNING — MATURE 18+ *******
KEITH ELLISON / ANDRE CARSON / NIHAD AWAD / IBRAHIM HOOPER / HILLARY CLINTON / BERNIE SANDERS / NATHAN LEAN / REZA ASLAN / JORDAN DENARI / JOHN ESPOSITO / ETCETERA ON TO ENDLESS LEFTIST PRIVILEGE GUILT FREEDOM HATERS —-
SEDITION AND TREASON EVENTUALLY GET TRIALS AND CONVICTIONS. WHEN OUR MUSLIM IN-CHIEF HUSSEIN OBAMA IS GONE AND A NEW PRESIDENT NAILS YOUR ASSES TO THE WALL, JUSTICE WILL FINALLY BEGIN. COUNT ON THAT.
Linde Barrera says
To jihad3tracker- As per your comment of 10:25 pm Nov. 15, 2015 I hope and pray you are correct. I was reading the NY Post from today and several days this past week, and there was an article that stated the Republican party bosses were not really satisfied with Donald Trump or Dr. Ben Carson because neither one is a candidate “they want”. So they are going to speak with Mitt Romney! I thought it was what the American people wanted!
Angemon says
jihad3tracker posted:
“WHEN OUR MUSLIM IN-CHIEF HUSSEIN OBAMA IS GONE AND A NEW PRESIDENT NAILS YOUR ASSES TO THE WALL, JUSTICE WILL FINALLY BEGIN. COUNT ON THAT.”
I have a pessimistic view, jihad3tracker. On a bipartisan system it’s easy to arrive at a point where both parties have enough dirty on the other to ensure MAD on some level.
Jeremiah says
Who said anything about shooting dirt?
tilda says
“Apart from prevention, we should also focus more on repression.”
Here’s a more useful word, and one that the Prime Minister should master: “Enema”.
Jeff says
The arrogance of the west’s leadership is leading us to great horrors.
quotha raven says
Jeff – Could you please use some other word than “leadership”:? “Leadership” implies some nobility.
Cheers! quotha r
Frank says
About Leadership in Belgium. In the Flemisch language there exist 2 words which are phonetically exactly the same.
One is “LEIDER”, meaning the “leader”
The other one is “LIJDER”, meaning “the one who suffers”.
The last one is applicable on belgian politicians.
Belgium: 10.5 million habitants
6 (you’re reading it well) SIX governments
Ca. 60 ‘ministers’
Brussels: 28 communes (28 mayors – 28 police zones – let’s talk about ‘losing control’
and to top it all
we’re members of the European Union (at least, for as long as it still exist). In a few years time, it will be the Islamic Union.
Belgium = ABSURDISTAN
Georg says
Well said.
Dr. Divinity says
Pamela Geller says it all……”THE WEST HAS LOST ITS WILL TO LIVE” and “We are living off the fumes of the accomplishments of our forefathers and those who fought and died in the cause of freedom and individual rights”
Wake up Saamson…The philistine are upon you!!!
mortimer says
WHAT? You mean THERE ARE actual no-go zones in Europe? In Belgium? In France? In Germany? In Spain? In Sweden?
French: Zone d’exclusion, zone interdite, zone urbaine sensible
Flemish: no-go area
Spanish: zona prohibida
Swedish: rebellkontrollerade områder
German: no-go-Gebiet
Some of the Paris attackers were from the NOTORIOUS NO-GO ZONE OF MOLENBEEK, BELGIUM
Police have admitted…
In France: ‘dozens’
In Netherlands: 40
In Belgium: ‘several’
In Germany: 51
In Sweden: 55
Dave J says
Illustrating the fact that this islamic invasion is a numbers game. Each new possible ISIS operative suspect requires at least 12 police personnel to keep under 24/7 surveillance, at tremendous cost, obviously.
Then allow no-go zones where there can be very little supervision.
Then add the fully enciphered communications now available as phone apps. The newest attack on Paris was extensively coordinated yet apparently the French intelligence knew nothing about it.
And you want to admit them by the hundreds of thousands?
mortimer says
Among every 3,000 to 7,000 Muslims, there is one real terrorist prepared to act. This depends on the local ISLAMIC STUDY GROUPS led by JIHAD IDEOLOGUES.
Find the ISLAMIC STUDY GROUPS and you will find the JIHADISTS.
islam :- the religion of killers says
Why , why do governments not have control of some neighbourhoods, this is disgusting,
do you think the govt. would move in and take control if there was a gang of drug dealing bikers, selling women and living their own laws …… they would send in the DGSE and sort it out ….
Is it because the muslims are bleeding victims that lets them get away with this,,,,?
On the otherside of this coin is, they should flock together, (we need them to flock together), they do it for security and identity, they are dirty and arrogant ..
they fight amongst themselves, Arabs will always kill & fight they have been doing it for centries and they arn’t going to stop just because they have moved to Europe..
So the short answer is it’s better to keep them in the getto than in our neighbourhoods ..
August_West says
What is not being said is that in order for the Belgian police to regain control over these no-go zones they will have to confront a heavily armed insurrection. This will make the Baltimore riots looks tame by comparison. I suspect that traditional law enforcement resources are not equipped, trained or able to act in this capacity. Same is true of the no-go zones in Sweden, France, Germany and the list goes on.
As we have seen most recently in Paris – the conflict will not be contained to just these no-go zones either. This conflict will be wide spread across the European Union.
Also – Muslims will view these no-go zones as “Islamic Lands” which they will never give up.
Lastly, we should also realize that in Dearborn Michigan you can hear the Muslim call to prayer blasting while you are eating in the lunch restaurants on Michigan Avenue. Hamtramck MI is now run by Muslims. We are developing the same problems here in the US.
Ami says
I don’t understand, first they want to deny there is a problem, hide the problem, put bandaids around the problem, put people on trial for saying its a problem and then they openly advertise to the world that there is one. What gives? Its not like they will actually do anything about it, they just want you to think they will. if half the population at least feels a bit of relief or justice, because the government has finaly acknowledged, but only in part, an issue that was pressing people, and further following it up by pretending to be something about it, then the govenment has won over, at least half the population. We should all be aware by now, step by step, how we are constantly fed garbage that will dictate our emotional responses and are pulled into line again. This is how they have been controlling the masses since time began.
August_West says
At some point somebody will start to talk about a 2 State Solution to the impending European crisis where the Muslims have one state and the Europeans get to have another. That would be ironic, but at the end of the day the Muslims will not agree to it as they will want ALL of Europe.
Ernie says
Just as they want to destroy Israel . A two-state solution ? NO NO NO ! Not for Israel , not for Europe .Evict all muslims , ALL OF THEM . The Dar el Islam is big enough and rich enough to harbor them all . It is WAR . Gloves off !
Ami says
So they’re not talking about finding a political solution just in Syria…
Jeremiah says
No need to battle into neighborhoods. Keep it simple. Close all mosques.
We can prevent further attacks by raiding mosques, jailing Imams and identifying those who teach the Koran. Then we don’t need to respond, we don’t need to fight it and we don’t need to defeat it. There is no reason for people to continue to live in fear except for Political Correctness. There is no need to fight all muslims, only those who object to the closure of mosques. There is no need to kill on a large scale, only those who are willing to defend Islam. It is Islam and its teaching which is our enemy! All this talk about trying to find terrorists is nonsense. All this fear is misplaced. Only Political Correctness can kill us. No need to “flag” anybody on a terror watch list. Bring them all in for questioning. Just close the mosques! The mosques contain the terror entire network that we are looking for. No terror network exists outside the mosques, so why are we avoiding mosques?
August_West says
Jeremiah – The Mosques can be expected to contain automatic rifles, suicide vests, grenades, plenty of ammunition and TNT at a minimum. They probably also have RPGs and other small arms. Any attempt to enter a no-go zone to “close a mosque” will be met with stiff resistance. That is a virtual certainty. It wont be as easy as closing Mosques and jailing Imams.
Charli Main says
A Mark 1 Abrams tank would close your neighbourhood Mosque without even noticing it, as it went by. Could rename them ” Mosque closers”
Jeremiah says
Then Bomb it.
quotha raven says
To Jeremiah – No! I like the “mosque closer” tank that would run right over it without noticing!
Cheers!
quotha raven
Jeremiah says
Could give the tank a new reputation. Messes up the cobblestones though.
Westman says
Let me get this straight: The EU administration in Brussels, only an hour drive from Molenbeek, demands that European nations take quotas of migrants but it can’t even get Belguim to administer its own town of Molenbeek because migrants have made it dangerous and uncontrollable??
Could there be insanity at the top? Or is it just an uninformed elite supremacist attitude passed down from the days of Aristocrats in the King’s court?
mortimer says
Agreeing with Westman: the EU administrators are obviously an ‘uninformed elite’ that cannot understand basic Islamic doctrines:
1) the jihad doctrine 2) the Islamic apartheid doctrine – al Walaa wal Baraa 3) the doctrine of the kafir 4) the doctrine of female inferiority 5) the doctrine of dhimmitude 6) the doctrine of taqiyya
Baucent says
Belgium has clearly got a serious jihadist hotbed that needs to be dealt with. We will recall the train attack that was snuffed out by the Americans was leaving from Belgium. Just what Belgium intelligence services are doing is anyone’s guess.
DeKadt says
What people dont know is, is that Brussels is not a city with one maire. The city comprises 19 counties, each with his own maire. And not forgetting that their is not one but six (!) different police and security forces in the city. It’s no rocket science to figure out that that is not going to work in a real crisis …
Jeremiah says
Well now that we have all had a lovely snooze . . .
William T says
Convenient dwelling so close to center stage of the trillionaire cartels, hmmm.
ecosse1314 says
Spokesman Jan jambon…does that not translate as John Ham?. Now is that not a tad Islamophobic? Surely worth a fatwa or two.
ECAW says
Blatant provocation!
duj_swami says
In a no go zone, who do you call if you need a plumber?
eL says
Simple, the problem has been allowed to grow instead of being nipped in the bud. Each short term parliamentary pip-squeak that took the reigns of power ignored the problem, playing a dangerous game of hot potatoe and hoping it would simply whither away. Well sorry, it has not, it has grown. Remember Publilius Syrus? ‘Pardon one offence and you encourage the commission of many’.
David M says
The alleged mastermind of Paris has been named, a Belgian born Muslim.
Belgian-born Abdelhamid Abaaoud has been identified as the alleged mastermind of the Paris attacks, a french official has told the Associated Press.
Abaaoud is believed to be in Syria.
He was known to authorities as an Islamist extremist and is believed to be linked to thwarted attacks on a Paris-bound high-speed train and Parisian church.
The official, who has direct knowledge of the investigation, was not authorised to be publicly identified as speaking about the ongoing probe, AP said.
Seven people are in custody in Belgium suspected of links to the attacks and an international arrest warrant has been issued for a Belgian-born Frenchman believed involved in the attacks and who is still at large, according to AP.
French paper Liberation reports that Abaaoud was linked to Sid Ahmed Ghlam, a French student charged with murder, attempted murder, and terror offences.
More on Abaaoud here.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/paris-attacks-day-three-police-hunt-for-terrorists-20151115-gkzn0z.html#ixzz3ref0Atuq
GuntherL says
I work 1 km away from Molenbeek and I can tell you with absolute certainty that this mess was created by the socialist mayor Moureaux who actually had to guts to speak out during an interview today to say that this didn’t happen during his time in charge. Fuck him and fuck his socialist party.
Jeremia says
Put your money where your mouth is :).
Roger says
Msm reporting gun fire and explosions in molenbeek. Police raids or civil unrest?
TheDane says
What a horrible Photo! It looks like something out of Kabul! Europe should strike back at moslems for the atrocities that they say nothing against – rather they condone the many attacks!
Neighborhoods like this should not be allowed to exist! Start EXpelling moslems from Europe – Now!
pdxnag says
Empty it. It is yet another Command and Control center in the eventual final battle to declare Sharia the only law of the land.
Myxlplik says
I would look at history regarding this issue.
http://www.ericfichtl.org/index.php/texts/article/other_or_one_of_us
These areas in Europe would need to be isolated militarily, and under Martial Law no unauthorized citizens are to come and go. All people within the zones are to be documented, if they are of foreign origin a new residency status should be attached to their identification, which would be “Belgian of Foreign Origin”.
Area by area would then be brought under control by such tactics.
Unfortunately some religious freedoms, intended to de-Islamify the areas, would need to be restricted. If Muslims who are under the new classification dislike the new restrictions, then they can go back to their country of origin stated on the new documents.
Jerry says
I wonder whether or not Jihaddis practice before going on Jihad,
just to be ready for their meeting with their allotted 72 dark eyed
unwashed flea infested virgins by, if they are moderates,
pumping up the Kurbani goats (requires no assistance), if
they are determined activists pumping up the Kurbani cattle
(requires a stool) or if they seriously devout, pumping up
the Kurbani Camels (requires a ladder).
Can anyone enlighten me about the exact procedure?
May Shaitan, disguised as Jibril be with them.