The Guardian doesn’t worry about the Islamic State presence in France. It isn’t concerned about how many Islamic State sympathizers are living in France now. It couldn’t care less how many more jihadis will enter France via the refugee crisis. No, the Guardian is only concerned about the sole matter that worries the Western intelligentsia: will “far-right groups” exploit this jihad massacre to “fuel more hatred”? I.e., will those who believe in free societies start calling attention to the jihad threat again?
“Paris attacks leave France in trauma, fearing for the future,” by Natalie Nougayrède, Guardian, November 13, 2015:
…Muslims in France will now increasingly fear being associated with fanaticism and terror. Populist, far-right groups may well fuel more hatred. After Charlie Hebdo, thousands of French soldiers were dispatched across the country to secure key installations, schools, train stations, institutions….

RichardL says
there are thousands of IS terrorists in Europe. Does any sane person believe that Paris was not merely the opening salvo of a war that will kill thousands and thousands?
Then the insane media will sing a different song.
Oliver says
the media will change WHEN THEY ARE ATTACKED- AND EVEN THEN, will probably claim it was right wingers.
Don McKellar says
Oh, I see the The Guardian has shut down comments on this and highlighted a “pick” about how this is all about “creating divisions” as the motive behind this attack.
The left-fascist insanity of the media of our times beggars belief!
Westman says
Do you suppose this kind of liberal cowardness was going on right up to the 1453 sacking of Constantinople? It’s like the lesson of Neville Chamberlain just passes through the liberal brain without interaction.
If only we’d lay down before them, they wouldn’t cut off our head….
silvergreycat says
Westman,
*Do you suppose this kind of liberal cowardness was going on right up to the 1453 sacking of Constantinople?* No… http://ottomanempire.info/timeline.
Grahame says
“Liberal brain”? Has science discovered evidence of a “liberal brain”? Please point me in the direction of a webpage. I need to learn more about this groundbreaking new development which, if true, could have a profound impact on political discourse going forward.
Basil says
Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder
As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery.
Among Rossiter’s observations:
Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded. Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.
A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity — as liberals do. A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population — as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation’s citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state — as liberals do.
The roots of liberalism — and its associated madness — can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind. When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.
Basically liberalism is a willful failure to mature beyond adolescence that can have catastrophic consequences for society. With luck, the official diagnosis of this disease by a mental health professional will facilitate the search for a cure.
jayell says
Hello Don McKellar! May I quote you?….”The Guardian has shut down comments on this and highlighted a “pick” about how this is all about “creating divisions” as the motive behind this attack”….
Thanks for the info on the Guardian. I haven’t even dared touch a copy of that rag at my local shop because I’ve run out of hand sanitiser. They must be typing their copy onto their rose-tinted computer screens with little ‘right-wing’ cartoon gremlin screen savers scampering all over the place, whilst stuffing their fingers in their ears and singing ‘la-la-la’ as loud as possible so that reality cannot penetrate their tiny minds. And they’re worried about anyone ‘creating divisions’ when there are already monumental cracks in the social foundations as a result of the corrosive activities of our Friends of the Moon God? Blind as a bat? Thick as three short planks? Locking stable doors after horses have bolted? Take your pick.
Is someone going to wake them up from their sedated sleep and give them the bad news that WW3 may be about to start? Or will they then just leap out of their armchairs, wagging copies of the Qu’ran in the air and proclaiming the good news about the Religion of Peace in our Time?
silvergreycat says
No matter what the Left and the Right say/do the terrorists view both groups as unbelievers/kafirs/infidels… http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
ballotcode says
Without a word from Mohamedans, the “west” is silencing itself. Absurd and foolish not to mention delusional and dangerous.
John Johness says
Friday night is a big night for these Muzzies. Quite a few attacks around the world happen after the Friday evening prayer. Just an observation.
Westman says
The Imams preach hate against the West on Fridays. Many are on the Saudi payroll.
Rob says
Totally sickened by BBC World earlier.
A Frenchwoman reporter was allowed to go on and on and on about 2nd generation immigrants who feel alienated from French society and these attacks are the result.
There’s a clip somewhere on YouTube of a Pakistani migrant in Paris complaining that he can’t get a job and local (French) employers expect him to speak French.
He had been in France several years.
Stevie says
I suggest the French government start by collecting up all these Alienated Immigrants ( most live in Paris Suburbs that they have turned into shit holes ) and air drop them somewhere near an SAA unit in Syria so they can all be shot to hell .
Problem sorted for them and US !
SIngh the SIkh says
At times like this so-called moderate muslims go on the offensive with their grievances. Three of their common traits come for the fore: ungratefulness, ingratitude and utter selfishness. Why only Muslims feeling alienated? Why not Hindus, bhuddists, Sikhs and others? Why aren’t they bombing and murdering en mass. Why always Muslims? WHy doesn’t the Pakistani just return to Pakistan if inhappy in France?
SIngh the SIkh says
At times like this so-called moderate muslims go on the offensive with their grievances. Three of their common traits come to the fore: ungratefulness, ingratitude and utter selfishness. Why only Muslims feeling alienated? Why not Hindus, bhuddists, Sikhs and others? Why aren’t they bombing and murdering en mass. Why always Muslims? WHy doesn’t the Pakistani just return to Pakistan if unhappy in France?
Charli Main says
@ Singh
You got Muslims, you got problems and there are another 40 million+ problems heading for Europe. Europe´s suicide by Islam is only a matter of time, unless the Muslim invasion of Europe is reversed.
Westman says
The liberals just can’t believe that the Muslim militants are out for their blood. They actually believe that Islam Ideology requires some offense rather than it is simply the primary goal of Islam to enslave or kill them.
Wake up Europeans! Read the Quran and Hadith and stop listening to ill informed or lying leaders. Forget left and right, get educated. It’s your future at risk..
John Johness says
I am just watching the news from France- how inane it is. Can’t they use the word Islam or Muslim. Cant they connect this with other attacks, dig a bit deeper, look at motives, and reasons?
No they have to talk about people on a night out being terrified – over and over again. I think we know that. We also know that the hospitals will be over stretched. They must have said that every thirty seconds.
And to cap it up comes the speeches of sympathy from all the world leaders. Conspicuous Compassion, Competitive Sympathy – all signifying nothing. Obama is pathetic.
Cunamarra says
Well the killers were shouting “Allahu Ahkbar!” So there is no telling what their motivations were or what ideology they could have been representing. There is a strong possibility that the perpetrators were non-Western, however, and therefore their actions are at least understandable if not justified, and they are the real victims in all of this.
Oliver says
There is a strong possibility that the perpetrators were non-Western, however, and therefore their actions are at least understandable if not justified, and they are the real victims in all of this.
ARE YOU SERIOUS????? What the hell is justified about killing people at a soccer game? At a concert? at a restaurant? Don’t like sports, music or eating out-don’t.
They should go back to their shit holes in Somalia; Pakistan;; Iraq; Iran; Syria; etc and kill other Muslims.
Understandable-if not justified? they are the real victims? What planet are you on?
Mirren10 says
Cunamarra is being sarcastic.
Vienna_1683 says
One of the attacks happened on the Boulevard Voltaire. Boulevard Voltaire happens also to be a popular French alternative media site, opposed to MSM. The site was founded by Robert Ménard: a “controversial” mayor of Béziers, who dared to reveal racial make up of his town. this is considered racist in France and is strictly forbidden, as the official propaganda denies the existence of races altogether ( as for the above mentioned “racism” – don’t expect logic for a leftist). Monsieur Ménard has to support of the patriotic, conservative anti immigration party Le Front National, although he is not a member. Those “racist” racial statistics got a lot of media attention in France.
somehistory says
If they *fear* being associated with terrorism, then they should abandon the beast and make it public that they have done so.
Instead of worrying about the *fear* those who practice the unholy, beastly, ungodly, islam might feel…worry instead about the fear of terrorism felt by everyone else. Everyone with a brain and a conscience, that is.
No one made the moslims commit the terror. They chose to commit the actions and kill and they did it for islam and to spread islam by means of terror and fear.
(Revelation 13).
Bridget Ames says
If “they” are going to claim that far right groups are going to come out and target poor Muslims now, why don’t “they” tell the Muslims to quit egging them on with the “lone wolf” shootings. It’s like what “they” tell you with the Mohammad pictures that you are to basically egging on the Muslims on and you should stop. But I am sure “they” are too stupid to make the connection.
jp says
I spit on these helpful idiots of the media. It’s time for real war against jihadi scum. Burn these monsters wherever they hide. Level their cities, torch their fields. Enough is enough!
Cunamarra says
Unfortunately, for the peoples of Europe, “their” cities are your cities because your cities have become theirs.
Geoff says
Yes, it will come down to a civil war style urban street fight – which is one of the worst.
The leftists that control the government and media are probably subconsciously afraid of losing their power.
Most of them would have to know at least sub-consciously that this is the fruit of their madness. Their utopia is turning the nations into hell in a hand basket.
It is their ideological pride that is blinding them from admitting failures in their ideas and policies.
A sound person would constantly evaluate their ideas and notions and cross check them with the results they yield. They would modify or change their beliefs as necessary – kind of like a scientific method when one postulates a theory.
The insane person keeps pounding away with the same ideas, over and over despite the objective evidence telling them that it is otherwise.
Until the useful idiots are stripped of power they will continue to lose this war.
Cunamarra says
I’m not so sure they have a consciousness, sub or not.
cliffface says
Just another fun filled Friday from the religion of peace.
But is there enough candy for all the children to celebrate ?.
Fred Flinstone says
MS NBC trying to confirm a report that Obama has put on his girly pants and has crawled under his bed
Cunamarra says
It took me a little while to discover it, but pointing out truths that expose evil only fuels the hatred of those who are steadfastly on the side of evil. Hatred, though not exactly a positive thing isn’t so bad when it is directed at something evil. It just seems more logical to me that a more effective way of fueling hatred would be to kill people, who have only offered you benefits, while they are eating out or enjoying a concert. Oddly enough this is not the case. The more people who are not Muslim, or who are not Muslim enough, that are killed by Muslims in accord with Islamic teachings, the more sympathy is poured on to Islam and Islam’s followers.
I am utterly puzzled by what kind of philosophy or ideology is indoctrinated into generations of Western peoples to have convinced them that up is down.
Edwin1683 says
Great post, Cunamarra. With reference to your last sentence, that is the big question, isn’t it? What has made the last few decades’ indoctrination of self-hatred into our societies so successful?
I think it is because we have felt guilty (I believe wrongly) for doing better by so many measures than the rest of the world.
I think that since the Second World War the ground was fertile for this guilt to take root. We had achieved peace and a decent standard of living so we no longer had to devote as much time struggling for these. We therefore became susceptible to spending our time in self-analysis and began to seek to perfect our society in finer and finer ways. Coincidentally this occurred in a century where the dominant intellectual fashion was socialism: an idealistic (in theory) movement based on internationalism and sweeping systems to right all wrongs incorporating the lexicon of oppressor and oppressed. Also we had a large baby-boom demographic in the 1960s whose naive youthful idealism exercised a disproportionate influence and set the stage for the callowness of most of our current “leaders”.
Being thoughtful peoples, we Westerners reflected upon the fact that in our history we had made mistakes and hurt other groups. Led by our intellectuals, we began seeing ourselves as oppressors.
Today, mortally weakened by our own thinking, we are on a collision course with 7th century barbarism.
What we don’t understand are the following orders of magnitude:
Yes, we have sins in our ledger book but on a scale of 1 to 10 the sins are 1 and the guilt we feel is 10. (Ratio of 1:10).
Conversely, the sins in Islam’s ledger book are a 10 and the guilt they feel is precisely zero. (Mathematically that makes a ratio of infinite, which incidentally is equal to the stupidity level of most of our governments).
Demsci says
Quite right all what you say.
And since this is happening in democracies, with majorities failing to defend themselves properly, because the majorities are to be blamed, not the media and politicians who merely cater to them (to put it succinctly), we could be excused for pointing out that the very system of democracy is failing. And still accept it, because any attempt by a minority to rectify the situation for sure will end badly in corruption and oppression.
But the minority that knows that which it is FOR, which tenets and values it really cherishes, that group can try to unite more and defend only it’s own group,
and let go of these neutrals, who only know what they are against, like these guardian-writers and readers. I think we should not care about their fate, which they so carelessly put at risk themselves, spurning those of us who wish to save them.
Kasey says
Enoch Powell’s predictions, unfortunately, are now coming true for France. Britain had better brace itself for its repercussions too! Maybe all Western nations as well?
Dave says
Too late I’m afraid. Britain needs to really embrace for 10 times the evil France is experiencing…
Karen says
If it’s any consolation, the entire article by Natalie Nougayrède is little more than filler, the kind of safe drivel you would write when you have no real information to offer. She just rehashed a bunch of old ideas, including the required paragraph that blames the victim, until she had filled the necessary space.
Charli Main says
Any minute now folks—-there will be a tidal wave of Muslims taking to the streets in London and Paris, screaming ” not in our name” ” its not true Islam” ” kill all Jahadists” ” Muslims love Jews and Christians”—-any minute now—won´t be long—soooooooooon
Mo says
@ Charli Main
“Any minute now folks—-there will be a tidal wave of Muslims taking to the streets in London and Paris, screaming ” not in our name” ” its not true Islam” ” kill all Jahadists” ” Muslims love Jews and Christians”—-any minute now—won´t be long—soooooooooon”
I’ve been waiting for that since September 12, 2001
Deia says
Great! Now it’s to blame right wings for the usual violence of islam! Those adults making wars and-or children today learned intolerance-hatred-violence with their parents-people-culture who didn’t care about what they were teaching to their children which could turn against themselves in the future.
Look the report of EUROPOL and the videos bellow:
TE-SAT 2014
https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/te-sat-2014-european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2014
“The majority of EU Member States continue to consider religiously inspired terrorism as a major threat, as evidenced by the significant increase in the number of arrests. Two attacks and several disrupted plots in 2013 illustrate this threat. AlQaeda and like-minded terrorist groups abroad continued to encourage self-organised attacks within the EU aiming for indiscriminate casualties.
With regard to LEFT-WING and anarchist terrorism, the number of attacks and arrests increased compared to previous years. RIGHT-WING extremists may exhibit violent and intimidating behaviour, BUT DO NOT GENERALLY EMPLOY TERRORIST MODI OPERANDI. An exception to this rule in 2013 was a series of four attacks in the UK carried out by one individual. ”
Preschool Muslim Girl Holds Knife, Says: ‘I Want To Stab A Jew’
http://pamelageller.com/2015/10/preschool-muslim-girl-holds-knife-says-i-want-to-stab-a-jew.html/
TRAINING A CHILD TO BE TERRORIST – WATCH THE VIDEO:
http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5110.htm
Miao Zedong says
I’d just been joking with a colleague that they will blame the usual “righty”. Nobody is taking those lier seriously anymore but other liars. Incompetent bunch.
One more joke has been about Holland “doing the Schettino” – meaning behaving like the italian Captain grouding his ship and leaving it first. The person has been a figure of derision for a while.
Sadly, the good humor comes at a high price.
Deia says
Those adults making wars today learned intolerance-hatred-violence with their parents-people-culture who didn’t care about what they were teaching to their children which could turn against themselves in the future.
Training of a child to become terrorist
http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5110.htm
islamic schools in Britain teaching hate and segregation to young muslims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95GxhqjHZ3E
TERRORISM
“The most dangerous terrorist groups in the world have the intent and capability to carry out attacks against the European Union and the West in general. ”
https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/police-chiefs-meet-discuss-topical-terrorism-and-illegal-immigration-issues
EUROPOL – TE-SAT 2015
“Terrorist acts caused the death of four people in the European Union (EU) in 2014, while European citizens continue to be kidnapped and killed in conflict zones abroad. These facts demonstrate the ongoing threat to the security of EU citizens and interests, which has been particularly exacerbated by the conflict in Syria and Iraq”
https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2015
TE-SAT 2014
https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/te-sat-2014-european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2014
“The majority of EU Member States continue to consider religiously inspired terrorism as a major threat, as evidenced by the significant increase in the number of arrests. Two attacks and several disrupted plots in 2013 illustrate this threat. AlQaeda and like-minded terrorist groups abroad continued to encourage self-organised attacks within the EU aiming for indiscriminate casualties.
With regard to LEFT-WING and anarchist terrorism, the number of attacks and arrests increased compared to previous years. RIGHT-WING extremists may exhibit violent and intimidating behaviour, BUT DO NOT GENERALLY EMPLOY TERRORIST MODI OPERANDI. An exception to this rule in 2013 was a series of four attacks in the UK carried out by one individual. “
varn says
the Age of the so called enlightenment quickly followed by the age of Idiocy. Voltaire, Robespierre…meet the march of Islam.
Charles says
Had enough. Launch the US heavy bombers from around the globe, the fully laden fighter jets from Europe, and the Tomahawk’s and Predator’s and inflict pure hell on the Muslim sites that this IS mental disease came from….but at the same time do Mecca and Meddinah to keep the mental condition from spreading again. The Saudis for example may be unhappy, but should be warned if they take it out on expatriate workers and families – their cities will cease to exist – as will their towns and oasis. But the west will have all their oil. The game is over. The final crusade is an obvious outcome. The politicians cannot get away with their usual platitudes and feigned concern. The right wing everywhere is coming for them…and their end as leaders is nigh….Negative, zero, just like their courage. Bye Merkel…etc….
citycat says
The terrorists have not gained nor expected to gain as they had suicide vests. Obviously brainwashed under threat of death and peer pressure from Islam. Plenty more where they came from.
This is not really terrorism. This is Islam.
It is not terror for the sake of a tiny minority, it is benefitting only Islam, whichever sect, it is Islam and only Islam.
If Isis is defeated it is too late now, they can vanish completely, into the sinews of western society and destroy the west from within, more and more with each passing night.
The propensity to destroy or convert all non muslims, and rule Earth, is deeply etched into the muslim psyche since birth,
it is a world problem- always has been.
While infidels sleep and work and make merry, Islam is on the case 24/7
Jeremiah says
Far Right Groups had better do something soon. Search the mosques. Incarcerate Imams, Find the weapons and level the mosques. Trying to fight this war their way, one house at a time, is not sufficiently focused on the terrorists themselves. Do it swiftly.
cs says
“Is this a joke? Reprisal against Muslims us the first thing you thinking about? The fucking blood of innocent people has not even dried on the streets!”
The first comment I read, with 700 likes.
People are just tired of these jokers.
Smart Guy says
By the term “Left” does that include eastern communist countries? The Communist countries bordering
Afghanistan such as Kazakhstan, which rebuilt the statue of Lenin and Stalin were former Muslim before
they became Marxist. Former Muslims who become Marxist are under the threat of death. Hamas can and
does murder Palestinians who are Marxists. Has everyone forgot that Jimmy Carter boycotted the Olympic
Games because the Marxists of the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan? We have also invaded Afghanistan and we have been there far longer than the Soviets and have also failed. The idea that supporting Islam is left-wing needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Under Carter major defense contractors invested billions of $ into Saudi Arabia. The defense contractors such as General Electric
own the Media. Islam will murder all Marxists just as they will murder all non believers. In Marxism
religion is opium. If western so called Marxists are supporting Islam then they have been brainwashed
by the corporate media. In other words Western Marxists have become “Capitalist Pigs”
Marxists us the term “Liberation” Islam means submission the exact opposite. So that in Marxism
Muslims need to be classified as parasites and sent to re-education camps and prohibited from reproducing since Communists claim that they believe in Evolution. Islam is also the exact opposite of
evolution there is no civilization under Islam or education for women or any “Liberation”
I suspect that big money is behind the propaganda trying to brainwash the working class and the masses into believing that Islam is a religion of peace.
WVinMN says
Communists killed, maimed, tortured and imprisoned more people over the last 120 years than all other “‘ism’s” combined. Don’t try to sell that evil here.
sponsz says
Have Holland, Cameron or Obama yet given the standard speech that this has nothing to do with Islam, these are only a few lone wolves, and we should be more concerned with an outbreak of islamophobia?
Just a matter of time!
European says
You see i’m a liberal, that said I disagree with the vast majority of left leaning self defeatist apologists that make our ranks, islam is an existential threat to europe, to the usa and the civilized world, There is no such thing as moderation when you follow an ideology as islam, just as there is no such thing as a moderate fascist.
We need to wake up and drop the act that we can coexist with islam, we cannot, either islamic ideology is destroyed or we are.
If the political classes will not step up the people will step up. We won’t let europe get raped and enslaved.
Baucent says
Brace yourself for a flood of muslim sympathy stories in the mainstream media. Kids who won’t go to school because they are called terrorists, the woman who had her head scarf pulled off. Anything to salvage the “muslims are the victims” mantle.
The liberal types can’t rid themselves of their deeply felt guilt, that being white, middle class, living in a nominally “Christian country”, they are in part responsible for the oppression of muslims world wide. Therefore, the attack in Paris is both to be expected and actually accepted as just, karma even. They are cultural masochists. So don’t expect a new street movement called French Lives Matter, more likely to be Muslim Lives Matter. And it’s all Bush’s fault.
tilda says
And from Australia:
The worst thing we could do is blame the Australian Muslim community
“THE attacks in Paris are so singularly vile, so unprecedentedly deranged, it would be impossible to confuse the murders behind them with any other group.
But that is what will happen in Australia. An outspoken minority will attempt to link some of our citizens with the insanity of the IS conspiracy….
There could be a backlash…against the 480,000 Australians of the Muslim faith, as if their religion was enough evidence to put them under the IS banner. As if their worship meant they also supported the IS commitment to butchery….”
http://www.news.com.au/national/the-worst-thing-we-could-do-is-blame-the-australian-muslim-community/story-fncynjr2-1227609152618
Westman says
“.. As if their worship meant they also supported the IS commitment to butchery….”
No, their worship precludes any patriotism for their country, an allegiance that “Allah” forbids. They can be considered “trouble in waiting” if the right leader comes along to manipulate them. Many want their own society and laws within the host country, a sedition.
And the MSM, now too poor to send and find real news on the street, keep repeating the same delusional narrative they read and the one that is useful to their political and economic masters. The MSM is now a political machine, without independence, that resists reality as effectvely as any despot.
Mo says
@ Tilda
“The worst thing we could do is blame the Australian Muslim community”
Well, it’s probably too early to know where these particular Muslims who committed these attacks came from. Maybe they were local, maybe not.
“But that is what will happen in Australia. An outspoken minority will attempt to link some of our citizens with the insanity of the IS conspiracy….”
Sorry, not sure what you’re talking about with any “IS conspiracy”.
“There could be a backlash…against the 480,000 Australians of the Muslim faith, ”
Oh, wait, you’re one of them?! You are one of the followers of the warlord, child rapist Mohammad? Am I understanding you right? Because only they (and their leftist supporters) immediately start talking about “backlash.”
Please clarify.
“as if their religion was enough evidence to put them under the IS banner.”
Of course it is. It’s the same Koran, the same Mohammad. Is that not correct? Answer me.
“As if their worship meant they also supported the IS commitment to butchery….”
What are you yammering about? It’s ISLAM.
Eddie says
First I would say about your statement is that you better see these Muslims who say they are peaceful denouncing these attacks! If not then you need to start watching their actions, if not you will be next! unfortunately if you look around the world and you see who is killing who, it is the Muslims! And if you noticed they have eradicated a majority of all Christians in the Middle East…. So do not stick your head in a hole.
Raja says
Tilda,
Are you in some fools’ paradise?
Muslims besides condemning killings do the opposite. Their mosques don’t discipline the rogues/radicals leave alone expelling them. The radicals are more respected than the rest of the Muslim flock through all kinds of benevolence. After their death they (terrorists) are glorified as martyrs in spite of killing people. Only a handful of people turn up for protest against Muslim savagery.Islam is a screwed up religion with all kinds of falsehood and patently evil designs on mankind.
Who will detoxify Islamist? Can you ever detoxify Islam?
Islamist lie that they are violent only when provoked. What do they have to say about their behavior in Egypt, Pakistan and all of world especially in the light of the birth of ISIS.
Abdullah says
This attack is nothing to do with Islam, why you blame all Muslims and Islam just by the actions of 8 people. Fascist France killing ISIS soldiers so they took revenge. Stop killing terrorists, they will stop attacking you, only France actions making normal Muslims into radical Muslims. These majority French people terrifying minority Muslims every day on streets. France is not only for Christians, it is also for Muslims, Islam. We Muslims want separate state we don’t want to be part of France. Millions of Muslims in France need self rule we don’t want to be with you. All Muslims in Europe need a separate country, shame on France you didn’t understand the feelings of Muslims, we Muslims want our own rule.
Ernie says
Then transport yourself to el-Dar el Islam , be happy there and LEAVE US ALONE !
Dave says
The attack has noting to do with islam? Then why has ISLAMIC STATE admitted responsibility? If you want your own country …. go find one! If you want ours, expect to pay the price!
Ernie says
RIGHT DAVE !
Scorpio says
Sorry, Abdullah this has everything to do with Islam and the reason we blame Islam is the unique aspects of its tenets; to kill infidels where ever you find them. If Muslims want a country of their own go back to the middle-east or north Africa and take your pick of dozens of Islamic hell-holes. Europe is not the place for you.
Frankly, now would be a good time to return while you still can. If you need financial assistance there are many non-Muslims who would be more that happy to raise a collection to pay your fare and millions of your like minded Islamic adherents.
Baucent says
“We muslims want our own rule”
Well Abdullah bud, you can’t have it. Just like the Hindu community or the Buddhist community of France can’t have it. France is a republic, it has a constitution that treats everyone as equal under the law. Not that I’d expect you to understand that. If you don’t like it, you and your brothers should ship out to some muslim state, because you will not impose your religion on those who respect freedom from the tyranny of a book.
SpiritOf1683 says
It is part and parcel of Islam so off you go to Pakistan and keep your floor-banging to yourself.
Julian Farmer says
Julian Farmer
You sum up exactly what is wrong with Islamic attitude. I would point out we were here before you and kind of like Europe as it was…thanks…
Just thought I’d mention it.
Miao Zedong says
“why you blame all Muslims and Islam ”
—
SOME muslims and 100% Islam.
I don’t care for muslims anymore.
Karen says
I used to admire Muslims, but not for quite a while…..
Jaladhi says
Hey Abdullah, this is Islam 101 in case you don’t know it and if you know it, you are lying(won’t call it taqiyya but its the same lies all over). For once you should stop lying and admit what Islam is all about but you won’t since you follow the same deranged criminal ideology!! And if Muslims don’t like what the life in the West is about – get the hell out of here – you have 57 Islamic hell holes to go to!! No you guys always run to the West to be on the doll!
vcragain says
So – “we want our own Muslim state” – hmmm…. just what the rest of us knew all along – then why are you in the WEST at all ….. if you stayed where you were born you probably were already in a Muslim state weren’t you ?? So – go back home – then you are within a country that loves your religion, and follows it’s tenets, and we do not have to be bothered with your ambitions to make us all into Muslims – OR-ELSE !
You see your Muslim cult does not recognize any freedom to be anything other than what it decrees, and that is why you actually left didn’t you – because you knew darned well there was more opportunity in the West because WE do not (did not until now) discriminate against you – you have taken advantage of freedom and now want to take it away from all of us?. Your religion is a CULT nothing more – that makes it dangerous.
cynical1 says
Fuck you.
Fuck you and your foul barbaric cult.
Islam needs destroying as surely as Nazism was.
Westman says
“..We Muslims want separate state we don’t want to be part of France. Millions of Muslims in France need self rule we don’t want to be with you. All Muslims in Europe need a separate country..” – Abdullah.
There it is, the truth. Islam cannot coexist. That has always been a costly delusion.
So carve out a part of France for Muslims and watch it sink into chaos and poverty under its own, no dole, self rule. Then watch it become militant and cause continual discord as it complains that the real French Infidels have what allah promised the Muslims. After all Allah’s Ideology says he made the world for those with the prayer mark on their forehead; the Infidels are squatters.
Oliver says
Just go to Israel and the ( your choice) West Bank or Gaza– look at the difference between the Muslim villages and the Jewish ones.
In one, garbage shewn streets; filth; and nobody doing anything but smoking some local dope (sorry, forgot the name) and blaming the Jews and everyone else. That is Muslim villages.
In the Jewish areas, clean streets; people working and educating their children.
The Muslims have (in the hands of the elite few) billions- and do little to help their co-coreligionists. the Jews try and help others.
that is the difference. And, i forgot, the Muslims blame everyone but themselves, and resort to violence. And then cry when they are defeated
Roderick MacUalraig says
It’s true, Muslanimals are foul, disgusting.
Scott M says
Go live in a muslim country where your standards are observed. Eventually, you will be forced to anyway, as the days of appeasing your disgusting totalitarian cult are fast running out. We have no more tolerance for your intolerance – FUCK OFF.
msmarkg@gmail.com says
Notice how there’s NEVER a million man march to arrest and rid Islam of the homicidists amongst them?
Abdullard- you say it’s only eight who slaughtered people in France?
No… it was Islam that slaughtered all those people and ALL those OTHERS in all other lands by muslems- as always.
Paul says
Pity there isn’t a direct portal to hell where you all could go.
I couldn’t think of anywhere more ideal for you Mahoundians.
Instead, you are trying to turn normal countries into the failed
hell holes you came from.
Vic says
The problem here is that if you believe and practice a faith- any faith, but in this instance islam, then you validate those who use their faith as justification to murder. You cannot cherry pick the bits you like and ignore the fact that the religion was invented by a paedophile with ambitions of world domination. (Aisha? was SIX when he married her-contempory writers described islam as being spread by chariot and sword). If you continue to pretend your superstition is FACT, then you give support to the deranged perverts that justify the worst atrocities in its name. Oh, just to be clear, I am not a racist or an ‘islamiphobe’ I am an Athiest. And my opinion and beliefs should be respected. Even by idiots that believe in an invisible daddy in the sky.
Demsci says
Vic, I think you propose a good idea. In that Muslims should be held responsible for practicing a religion that is interpreted by hundreds of millions of followers in a violent anti-democratic way. anti-Western way.
And the most beneficial explanation for Muslims is that Islam simply is too vague, obsolete, incomplete and multi-interpretable. Most f us would say that Islam is not vague but clear and totalitarian,
but to convince the fence-sitters among us we may point, like you did, that Muslims all pick and choose the parts of Islam they like most, with wildly varying outcomes; from moderate to radical,
but with hundreds of millions, many of whom live among us, ending up with the anti-democratic tenets as most important.
But religion is a choice, certainly for Muslims living in Democratic countries. And as you say with this choice they validate those who use Islam to justify their violent anti-democratic, anti-Western behavior and the support of our totalitarian enemies.
It should be a policy-choice for Israel, Western countries and some political parties to hold Muslims, coming to and residing in these countries accountable for at least an unqualified clinging to Islam. Freedom of religion should diminish and following a religion should become more conditional. With conditions almost all followers of the other major religions easily can comply with.
By now that must sound reasonable to more and more citizens of democratic countries, so that finally a majority can be found in parliaments (maybe first in Eastern European countries) for such a policy.
Because most of us I suppose want to stay democratic all the way, but up until now Western citizens are not able to decide some effective policy against the irresponsibly vague ideology Islam with the big part part of totalitarian followers, with a majority in parliament.
jayell says
Hello again Abdullah. Here we go. Again:-
“This attack is nothing to do with Islam, why you blame all Muslims and Islam just by the actions of 8 people.” Well these nice characters were shouting ‘Aluha Akhbar’, or however you spell it, which seems to link it to Islam. And since islam decrees that its followers should do things like this, then it’s logical to blame islam, and therefore anyone else who follows islam.
“Fascist France killing ISIS soldiers so they took revenge.” Er, France is a left-wing democracy, which is quite different from fascism, if you’d care to look up those terms in a dictionary. And ISIS ‘soldiers’ (euphumism for ‘thugs’?) were killing European people first, so maybe – if the French were actually involved in any direct hits or action – they were the ones who were taking revenge. So your lot take revenge for the revenge? Then WE take revenge for the revenge for the revenge? Is this a stupid argument?
“Stop killing terrorists, they will stop attacking you,….” Ah so you admit that they (i.e., your lot) ARE terrorists? So if we let them do what they want and not retaliate, they will stop attacking us? But if we kill them, they’ll carry on? How can they carry on if they’re already dead?
…” only France actions making normal Muslims into radical Muslims. These majority French people terrifying minority Muslims every day on streets.” Oh I see, so the French people are routinely abusing, murdering and blowing up all these nice muslim people on the streets of France? Can’t say I ever saw THAT getting into the news? Or maybe the nasty French Kuffar press is burying the stories, just like the British Kuffar are burying the stories of muslims in the UK raping and abusing thousands of British girls?
“France is not only for Christians, it is also for Muslims, Islam.” Well it is supposed to be a ‘secular state’ so theoretically religious affiliations have no direct bearing on citizenship, although I don’t recall any referendum of the French people specifically stating the France is intended for muslims as such.
“We Muslims want separate state we don’t want to be part of France.” Hang on, you’ve just contradicted yourself! First you say that ‘France is…for muslims’ (as well as Christians), now you semm to say the opposite?
“Millions of Muslims in France need self rule we don’t want to be with you. All Muslims in Europe need a separate country, shame on France you didn’t understand the feelings of Muslims, we Muslims want our own rule.” Well, if you say you want a separate State because you don’t want to be with the French…in France (!?!), then why not have a separate State somewhere else. You see, the nice French people might not want to give away any of the land that is rightfully theirs, and if you decide that you’re going to take it, that’s theft. In fact it’ an even more serious kind of theft called ‘sedition’ or even ‘treason’, and I believe that perhaps the nice French people can still execute you for that! Did you realise that? And you already have lots of nice big countries where they follow your rules (in fact your name isn’t very French, so I believe that you actually already belong in one of these nice big countries that follow your rules; you could go there or stay there and have a nice time without nasty French people abusing and killing you, as I HAVEN’T heard on the news!).
Mr Abdullah, you’ve been posting gems of attempted intellectual genius here for some time, but I don’t seem to notice much progression in the standard of content or presentation. You do realise that Mr. Spencer intended this site for serious dissertation?
Frank Steele says
The first thing to do is uproot all Muslims in Europe and ship them back to countries of origin at their own expense and then we can send the military to deal with these pieces of crap!
Roderick MacUalraig says
OO-RAH.
VRWC member77 says
“Millions of Muslims in France need self rule we don’t want to be with you.”
Despite the fact there is still a year to endure with this anti-American punk in W.H. there is something over here that places like France doesn’t have…………The 2nd Amendment. Many American citizens would gladly would have no issue expediting your meeting between you and your “god.”
k says
The hell with Islam and its hurt feelings. The religion stinks. It has caused nothing but pain in the world. Its the Devils religion. The world better wake up to this or there is going to be a lot more pain suffering and death. Find the true God of peace and repent.
pdxnag says
Well done comedic stand in for Muslims who fail to show up here for debate.
One correction — “Stop killing terrorists.” It is any utterance in opposition to imposition of Islam that is terrorism by terrorists, according to Islamic dogma.
Mo says
@ Abdullah
“This attack is nothing to do with Islam,”
LOL! Thanks for the satire! (It is satire, right? Answer me.)
” why you blame all Muslims and Islam just by the actions of 8 people.”
Show me where this article is blaming “all Muslims”. Show it to me. Provide the evidence of your false accusations. If you’re a Muslim, you wouldn’t want your god seeing that you are making false accusations, right? Isn’t that a sin?
Answer me. Do not ignore me. Do not play your games. Answer me.
” Fascist France killing ISIS soldiers so they took revenge.”
Oh, so you ARE a follower of the warlord, child rapist Mohammad. So you are saying in public that you SUPPORT the endless slaughter that ISIS is committing around the world? Thank you for admitting that on the internet for the world to see! If only you could be arrested for it.
You hear me and you hear me well, you insufferable, lying creature. I, and many others here have read your Quran and about the life of your “prophet” Mohammad.
We LOATHE your death cult. We LOATHE hearing about and seeing people people beheaded, burned alive, shot, stabbed, blown up, crucified and all the rest of the sick ways you Muslims invent for murdering people who don’t bow to your death cult.
We loathe seeing children being taught to hate and kill Jews and other non-Muslims.
We loathe seeing little girls “married” off to old men, like Aisha was to your child rapist prophet, Mohammad.
We loathe the way you treat women like slaves and possessions.
On and on I could go, but I won’t waste my time. We will NOT submit to you. Do you hear me?
One day you will stand before CHRIST himself and give account. I suggest you repent now. He can forgive even one such as you.
Either way, one day, you WILL bow to that Christ you despise – either willingly or unwillingly!
Harry Tune says
Fare Do,s. Go back to your own Country. Result.
SANJAC1836 says
Abdullah. Jesus loves you. He died on the cross for your sins. Confess your sins, let Christ into your heart and know his peace and love. What I just did is a capital offense under your sharia law. Your “religion” is so weak and insecure, it can’t handle any sort of challenge, much less the light of day.
Carolyne says
If you don’t want to be a part of France, why are you barbarians there? Go back to the hell-holes dominated by the philosophy of a murdering pedophile and be happy. I wouldn’t stay in a country I hated.
Do you have a brain at all? Were your parents first cousins? That might account for your low IQ.
Oliver says
I would guess from his comment, ( and others I have read) I doubt his parents were first cousins. more likely, siblings; or his father was also his mother’s father.
He is pathetic.
Just mu views
Gbox says
The answer is so simple Abdullah. Of you want your own rule, don’t leave the Middle East and migrate to Wesstern country and expect them to change and go by your rules! GO BACK TO THE MDDLE EAST!
Oliver says
Or, if the Middle east is uncomfortable, he could go to Somalia or Pakistan or the former French North Africa (Algeria; Morocco, Tunisia)
Andy H says
In our world there are a good number of peace-loving, honest, reasonable men and women who happened to have been born into Muslim families – but you, Abdullah, are not one of them.
Your attitude puts you on the other side, the side which is at war with the entire non-Muslim world and we don’t want you in our countries. We don’t want you in our neighborhoods. We don’t want to see you or hear you or even hear of you. And when you attack us, we will kill you. Some of our people in some of our governments have lost their minds and allow you, even invite into our midst for which they should be hanged and eventually when the day comes that your jihadists push too far, and we respond in a way that will make the Inquisition seem like a children’s party, those government officials probably will be hanged.
Cliffhild says
—you ARE joking, being sarcastic…aren’t you???
Raja says
Abdullah,
Dont you bring in your lies of Islam. Islam says ; you are damned if you do or don’t do. All the non muslims are targeted for death at opportune time. You are a bully and a filthy liar like your prophet.
Islam has never allowed anyone to live in peace when it is more than 10 percent of total population especially in Europe, US and OZ.
Kepha says
Abdallah, so you are sympathetic to ISIS and see their act of vengeance as justice?
Oliver says
ONLY 8 TERRORISTS>?
YOU WANT A SEPARATE STATE/ DON’T WANT TO BE PART OF FRANCE? THEN GET YOUR ASSESS THE HELL OUT.
AND WHILE AT IT, OUT OF THE US ALSO.
go to Somalia; Iran; Iraq; Syria; Pakistan; Algeria; Tunisia; Morocco or any of the 56 or so Islamic states. OR, ( BETTER YET) JUST KILL YOURSELVES)
mahghan says
All one can say is that this stupid slave of Allah, the Moon God is a confounded fool and nitwit. it is a fact that the IQ of the average Muslim–is 80–almost borderline retarded.
Oliver says
You think–REALLY THINK–HIS IQ IS THAT HIGH? 80?
I was thinking more like 9–not quite double digits.
mike says
You have your country in fact you have an entire land mass you are entitled to its called the middle east go bugger off back there.
SpiritOf1683 says
Its time to deport scum like you. Your presencre here in the West is neither wanted nor desired. We want to be able to go into restaurants and attend rock concerts without fear of being shot or blown up. So its time for you and your parasitical hate-filled ilk to be sent back to Pakistan.
Peggy says
Just by actions of 8 people!!!! The world is in turmoil and western countries are on alert because of Muslims and you have the stupidity to say just 8 people.
This is not the only time and the only place Muslims have terrorized and murdered people you know.
wjsonl says
Far-right groups to blame for muslim violence? Yep, and it’s all George Bush’s fault.
Kepha says
wjsonl: Don’t you know that Dubya Bush built a secret time machine with the help of the CIA and JOOOOOOOZ, went back to the late 7th century, taught himself the Arabic of the time, and inserted all those hateful passages into a Qur’an and hadith that were originally only lovey-dovey and sweetness and light? I think I read that in either the Huffington Post, Guardian, or Salon. Or, was it in the official Egyptian press?
Oliver says
I thought it was Ronald Reagan and Dr. Kissinger’s fault. They allowed Iran and Iraq to go on killing each . other.. Unfortunately, not nearly enough on each side
Ernie says
Far right groups are not needed for fuelling more hatred . The muslims bad behaviours are more than enough for doing this job .
Neo says
“This attack is nothing to do with Islam, why you blame all Muslims and Islam just by the actions of 8 people. Fascist France killing ISIS soldiers so they took revenge. Stop killing terrorists, they will stop attacking you, only France actions making normal Muslims into radical Muslims. These majority French people terrifying minority Muslims every day on streets. France is not only for Christians, it is also for Muslims, Islam. We Muslims want separate state we don’t want to be part of France. Millions of Muslims in France need self rule we don’t want to be with you. All Muslims in Europe need a separate country, shame on France you didn’t understand the feelings of Muslims, we Muslims want our own rule.”
Abdullah.
What right do you think you have to come into another country, breed like rabbits, spew your filthy ideology on other religions and people, then demand your own part of that country or your religion is justified in killing innocent people or those who disagree with your own twisted views??
I tell you what how about you all f*ck off back to your homeland where you can eat pigs, molest your own children and play with goats all day. And very soon we are going to send you all to where you belong, underground in a mud pit buried with pigs ears, you bunch of horrific animals. We are not scared of you and your primitive way of life, your religion is on the edge of being outlawed, I for one cannot wait for that day, you are all deluded.
Ernie says
Dear Neo , good comment ! I’m not scared but FURIOUS !
Abdullah says
You and your gay nation failed in preventing this attack. Muslims were naturalized citizens of France like they were in Saudi, you need to give up your country or to fight with us. You kaffir only listen by killing, God created you kaffir to die in the hands of Muslims. You are declaring war in Islam so it’s normal people on both sides will be killed. In war and love everything is justified. Don’t you people responsible for millions of death in Muslim countries. You crying just for 128 kaffirs. Blame your leaders, blame your intelligence, blame your fucking false religion not us you moron. Europe is ours, this is Allah will. You need to pay so much, be ready for a war that will last until last Muslim will die. Freedom my ass, accept Islam you will be freed. Until our jihadi brothers will hunt you in your own streets. Don’t blame others for your own failures. Stop being gay and start accepting Islam.
Carolyne says
Why don’t you just go back to your sandlot and rape your goats all day as your “Prophet” directed you. But don’t forget, you can’t eat the goat you raped. You have to sell it to the next village. Big Mo said so.
And if we are responsible for millions of deaths in Islamic countries, it is not enough.
infidel says
Yes, Muslims hate games, music that’s why they attack in stadium and music concert.
Abdullah says
Tell me one thing that’s wrong with Islam, just one thing. It is perfect, Muslim is not prefect but Islam is. Don’t blame Islam just by the actions of very very few people. Hahaha hundreds of people died in road accidents every year, but still you driving. We very well know your double standard, when a Christian terrorist killed 79 people in Norway you didn’t blame Christianity, even though he justified his killings by quoting Jesus. You dog don’t care about it just barking on Islam. You have inferiority complex you people don’t have a religion like Islam, that’s why you behave like Hitler. 99% terror attacks done by western agents, actually I have doubt on this attack also. Those attackers have masks how do you now it was done by Muslims. Every one able to chant Allah akbar, this was done by French intelligence , we Muslims didn’t believe your lies. Shameful nation targeted its own people in false flag attack. Muslims in France should be careful because these cruel French people will attack them, they will take revenge, unite and face this evil French people. They all want to take revenge on entire Muslims just for the actions of 8 people. Those attackers killed instantly so leave it why you start attacking every Muslim. Enough is enough, don’t play this silly games on Muslims, give respect and take respect okay. We will crush you under our foot. If someone who called himself Muslim kill then die, don’t blame on Islam. Do you have any evidence that they were Muslims, what if some Christians converted into Islam and done this, just to bring Islam bad name. False flag total false flag attack. Even dogs didn’t believe your propaganda.
Wellington says
Abdullah: There are many things wrong with Islam. Here are several:
1) Islam is the only major religion which calls for war to be upon the unbeliever (e.g., Sura 8:39 “Fight the unbeliever until there is no more fitnah and all religion is with Allah”).
2) There is no universal Golden Rule in Islam as there is in other religions. The Golden Rule in Islam applies only to other Muslims.
3) Wherever Islam dominates it sets up a Jim Crow system, based not on race but on belief. In no Muslim nation are non-Muslims completely equal with Muslims under the law.
4) Islam is a mortal enemy of freedom. Any criticism of Islam, Mohamed or the Koran is to be met with death or severe bodily harm. No major school of Islamic theology to the present day, Sunni or Shia, for instance the Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi and Maliki schools of Sunni Islam, has repudiated this heinous, freedom-crushing doctrine, nor as any repudiated the equally odious Islamic doctrine that any Muslim who converts to another religion must be killed.
5) The character of Islam’s founder is repulsive. The character of Mohammed is one of a psychopath, narcissist and pedophile. And how convenient that Mohamed never got a single sexual desire forbidden him by Allah, including for nine-year old Aisha and his own daughter-in-law, Zaynab. Mohammed was a man enthralled with power and death. One knows this or should know it. He is one of the most malevolently influential persons of all time.
6) The Koran has over one hundred passages which call for the killing or maiming of non-believers (e.g., Sura 9:5 “slay the unbelievers wherever you find them”). And the Koran is always prescriptive and not just descriptive. I have read the entire Koran, all 114 suras, and I found it to be the most desultory, disturbing, stupid and repetitive religious work I have ever read.
7) Islam has a child-like view of the after life. It’s risible, what with 72 virgins and all that rot. How crude to imagine such a physical after-life. It invites derision and contempt.
8) The Islamic God, Allah, who I think was just Mohammed’s hand puppet, is not a deity of love but one who demands submission. In fact, there is really no love at all in Islam, including romantic love. Allah is disgusting. He’s a control-freak who views human beings as his slaves. If Allah exists (the bastard doesn’t though), then God is a jerk and this is a very creepy universe. Allah is no more admirable than Mohammed..
9) Islam is a religion that far more than any others calls for subordination of women to men. It is ready made for men to behave badly, which mucho number of Muslim men do on a regular basis where women are concerned. Hell, even a woman’s testimony is only worth half that of a man’s. Rot again.
10) Islam oozes enmity towards non-Muslims, the People of the Book charade notwithstanding. Two examples from the Koran are Sura 98:6 and 60:4. The former verse refers to Christians and Jews as “the vilest of creatures” and the latter verse speaks of despising the unbelievers “until they believe in Allah only.”
Well, this is just for starters, Abdullah. I could have provided more (e.g., Islam dividing the world into the dar-al-Islam and the dar-al-harb). Islam is spiritual fascism and is the longest-lived and best disguised form of evil ever devised by man. It is putrid and each year more and more people across the world are finding this out. This number will never go down and will only continue going up. Have a nice day, Abdullah.
Demsci says
Abdullah asked us to tell one bad thing about Islam. And Wellington provided extremely well with 9, nay 10 points, with more on offer, splendid.
Now my desire in response would be to turn around the argument and point out which values, tenets of democratic societies are BETTER THAN ISLAM, including spiritual tenets.
It is all very well to tell Muslims and bystanders how bad Islam is, but in my view it should be augmented with telling them about all alternatives to Islam, including societal systems and offering of spiritual sense, and happiness, that exist. Alternatives we can clearly point, BETTER THAN ISLAM.
With the audacious vision that more and more Western Citizens become more patriotic, more aware of the beauties of their societies and it’s values and tenets. So much TRUMPING Islamic tenets and practices.And yes, ENTICING smart Muslims to defect to these better alternatives to Islam.
Peggy says
The reason they don’t go back to their shitholes is becaues they don’t have to. Nobody is going to make them. We are too scared to even protest because our own governments and even some of our own people rise against us.
So we can argue and tell them to go back till we’re blue in the face but nothing will change. Only one thing will change our situation and that’s a full blown revolt against our government. We need leaders. So far we have some leaders but not enough followers. People like Geert Wilders either aren’t getting enough votes or someone is stealing elections.
We are not organized and don’t have structure to revolt successfully.
Muslims are well aware of this and they tell us to our face how they feel becasue they know we can’t hurt them.
So what now?
Jack Diamond says
Spoken like a dead man. Because of you declaring war, you responsible for millions of death (sic). Blame your leaders, blame your fucking false religion. You fake, you hater and killer of everything good and decent, you liar, you anti-Christ, you closet queen. You who don’t even accept Islam yourself, as you’ve admitted here before, in what remains of your cracked brain and stone cold heart. A brain you’ve dispensed with and a black Satanic heart that has replaced a human one. Spoken like a dead man. Anathema. You not only will lose, you will be expunged from the earth as if you never existed.
mahghan says
Is this very stupid man for real or is he a agent provocateur? Sure sounds like one.
Abdullah, any adult who happens to be a Muslim then discovers that the founder of the religion of Islam was a child rapist, a vile murderer, and an incorrigible brigand, but continues to be a Muslim is a sick degenerate.
SpiritOf1683 says
Off top Pakistan you go barbaric pig-f*cker.
SpiritOf1683 says
Pig-f*cker, get out of the West and back to Pakistan. We don’t want murderrous bigoted scum like you here, to sponge of us. I hope the intelligence services are monitoring your treasonous posts.
Abdullah says
Hahaha intelligence, your gay intelligence which failed to prevent this attack.
Ernie says
Abdullah , what is that with you muslims , all the time referring to sexual items as “gay” …..etc ? You must be obsessed !
shaunthebrummie says
abdullah…citizenship is a privilege…..and privileges can be taken away…so a change of law and you’re a shit coloured..shit melling..goat fucking foreigner who’ll be kicked out as soon as the ink dries….goodbye…and take your inbred retards with you…starvation or disease should do the rest..
Champ says
Adumbbell wrote:
“…what if some Christians converted into Islam and done this, just to bring Islam bad name.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Everything Adumbbell wrote are the rantings of a madman …
But this little diddy actually made me laugh as he demonstrates just how hard up he is to defend these evil perps by using Christians as scapegoats.
Peggy says
But Champ, it’w always our fault. Even our government and media say so.
Julian Farmer says
The Far Right must understand that as they are mostly white European, they are not considered part of acceptable Humanity. They are not allowed to be angry, sorrowful or sad as their victims express their anger caused by attacks like the above, that they must in fact remain silent in the face of or cekebrate with tea and cakes. Once Normative moral behaviour is now forbidden and all must celebrate being purged from their own countries by the “Elite” who have no more use for them. European workers have been sucha disappointment and of course must enoy and celebrate the NWO. Anybody not seen with smiles on their faces and tears in their eyes when ordered will be sen to the gulag..
Praise be to the Guadian-Journal of Diversity, Sweetness and Light!”
Duly we kuffar celebrate our extermination and removal….
Singh the SIkh says
Abdullah is the typical moderate Muslim with victim hood mentality, sense of entitlement, sullen, resentful, always wanting more and more, no sense of gratitude, traitorous, contributes little, silently cheering on the terrorists, reveling in the west’s misery, an enemy within, a knife in the side. And western leaders open the door to millions more of them. Why, oh why?
R Cole says
That’s the difficulty with the argument for Islam – it’s that Muslims have attacked everybody – it is not as though they spare one group or another – they believe everyone and their ‘forbidden-in-name-of-Islam’ stuff should be gotten rid of.
It starts with being offended – and ends up in killings!
Karen says
“Forbidden-in-the-name-of-Islam”. Right on, I’m sick of that. This, and the culture of perpetual offence as you so expertly point out are the roots of Islamic supremacism which is emboldened and expanding from top to bottom in the Muslim world.
Oliver says
i had read that there are 73 different ( for want of a better term) branches or types of Islam (Sunni, Shia’s, and their splinter groups) and 72 are false. And the 73 should fight until only 1 – the true islam remains.
SO WHY THE HELL AREN’T THEY? KILLING EACH OTHER? Then the civilized world, with or without the liberal anal pores running (or should I say ruining) their countries, and their screwed up media approving, can get rid of the remaining scorge.
Jack Diamond says
Yes, these were prophecies from Muhammad. Sunaan Abu Dawud:
Book 40, Number 4579:
Narrated Abu Hurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The Jews were split up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects; and the Christians were split up into seventy one or seventy-two sects; and my community will be split up into seventy-three sects.
Seventy-two of the seventy-three Muslim sects will go to hell; only one of the sects will be in Paradise; it is the majority group…
3.40.4580
Volume 3, Book 40, Number 4580
Abu ‘Amir al-Hawdhani said: Mu’awiyah b. Abi Sufyan stood among us and said: Beware! The apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) stood among us and said: Beware! The people of the Book were split up into seventy-two sects, and this community will be split up into seventy-three: seventy-two of them will go to Hell and one of them will go to Paradise, and it is the majority group.
Volume 3, Book 40, Number 4659
Abu Hurairah reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Faith has over seventy branches, the most excellent of which is the declaration that there is no god but Allah, and the humblest of which is the removal of a bone from the road. And modesty is a branch of faith.
Furthermore, whoever creates disunity in Islam, fitna, well, killing is better than fitna.
Whoever creates disunity in the Islamic community kill him… 3.40.4744
Volume 3, Book 40, Number 4744
‘Arfajah told that he heard the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Various corruptions will arise in my community, so strike with sword the one who tries to cause separation in the matter of Muslims when they are united, whoever he be.
The English translator of Sunaan Dawud, Professor Ahmad Hasan admits that it is permissible to ‘cannibalize’ dissident Islamic group/s. He writes: ‘The Prophet (may peace be upon him) did not tolerate disunity and schism among Muslims. Therefore, he ordered that, instead of causing separation and disagreement in the community, it is better to kill the person who causes disunity.’
40.4747
Book 40, Number 4747
Narrated Abu Sa’id al-Khudri; Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Soon there will appear disagreement and dissension in my people; there will be people who will be good in speech and bad in work. They recite the Qur’an, but it does not pass their collar-bones. They will swerve from the religion as an animal goes through the animal shot at. They will not return to it till the arrow comes back to its notch. They are worst of the people and animals. Happy is the one who kills them and they kill him. They call to the book of Allah, but they have nothing to do with it. He who fights against them will be nearer to Allah than them (the rest of the people).
—thanks to Abil Kasem for sources
So, yes all of this cannibal feast is sunnah, however all of these “73 sects” are also mandated and obligated to wage war against the disbelievers and taught that their number one enemies are the Jews & Christians, so I’m afraid they won’t be doing us the favor of killing each other exclusively first before killing us. (Americans, for example, are viewed as Crusaders–Christian– and agents of the Jews collectively, regardless of what anyone individually believes, and regardless of sanity).
Karen says
“Silently cheering on the terrorists” …… so well expressed. All the advocacy groups (CAIR, of course) will double down on the victim card, and far, far, too many ordinary Muslims will remain confusingly and deafeningly silent. Perhaps it doesn’t matter; I don’t think a parade can fix this one.
SpiritOf1683 says
Abdullard and his co-death cultists need kicking out of the West. Only then will we have security and peace of mind.
Oliver says
Kicked out of the west-a start; better yet– execute them.
SpiritOf1683 says
Abdullard is scum who would love to see us blown up or if not, bowing and scraping before Allah. His desire is to see the novel Caliphate become reality in Europe. We don’t want slime like him here, and why we let them in God only knows.
William says
I think only one deterrent to Islamic terrorism will work. Deport the families of known terrorists. Unfair? In a way … yes …but can the families be totally ignorant of a Jihadist in their midst? I think not. It is the only way in my opinion.
Robert says
“In Hoc Signo Vinces”-Constantine The Great
Nero says
https://ent.siteintelgroup.com/Statements/is-claims-paris-attacks-warns-operation-is-first-of-the-storm.html
OLD FREEMAN says
Hi Guys,
I am from the UK and this is my first comment. My thoughts and condolences go to the French people, especially the relatives.
Will Europe learn? definitely NO. In a short time it will fade from memories and we back to square one. Even as everybody is angry with more news come in that makes your blood boil, The daily mailI only managed to post one comment for me, I wrote several, and did my best to make them as DM correct as possible.
Our media has a lot to answer for and in a re-born new and sane Europe (if that ever happens) they should be held to account just as the current leaders and their predecessors.
I am not normally that pessimistic but it does look as we already lost the battle of survivals not because Islam is strong but because we lost the well to survive.
Watch this:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/watch-the-anti-migrant-video-going-viral-across-europe/
R Cole says
Hear! Hear!
Though what can be said in newspaper comments – has gotten better over the years.
But it’s so iffy – depending on the writer – a comment might be removed – for virtually no reason at all – the Guardian was the worst – they held an authoritarian PC view – and comments were heavily thought policed – it seems they are beginning to realize -that it’s one thing to present a certain view – but it’s another to get people to believe it.
That’s why there are the blogs. News articles can be gotten from anywhere in the world and you are no longer tied to what the local press will print or believe readers should see.
ManchesterLad says
Don’t be too disheartened. There are many of us in the UK who now understand more and more about Islam and the damaging effect it has on a civilised country.
Of course, for the most part you cannot hear our views for fear of arrest, loss of job, persecution by the authorities, by Muslims and the fascist left.
Islam in fact is only hastening it’s own end. Each time some supporters carry out these attacks, more and more people start to read up about Islam and understand what a mental and societal cancer it is.
SpiritOf1683 says
I wish that were the case. How long before we see a Paris in London, Manchester, Birmingham or Leeds?
Charli Main says
Won´t be long, that’s for sure. Of course, Muslims will claim that they were only defending THEIR cities from infidel invaders.
Demsci says
I understand what you are saying, old Freeman, but in a thoroughly democratic society, these media and politicians mostly echo and follow what the majority of citizens is thinking and to it’s lack of thinking.
When the democratic system is the best one, then we MUST wait until a majority is behind government policies and buying what the media are saying as these politicians and media certainly cater to majorities, even now.
And if some enlightened minority wants to change that without a majority, that is a known bad way to go; because sooner or later the enlightened minority itself gets selfish, corrupt and oppressive.
No, we must as our highest priority convince a 51 % majority to defend with effective policies that precious democracy. And right now, the majority of citizens of Western Democratic Nations seems to not yet awakened enough.
And if democracy collapses because of that, then let us be honest and admit that democracy is a failure. But let us not resort to the even worse method of minority rule. Which is what so many Muslims stand for.
SpiritOf1683 says
If Europe can’t learn after 1,400 years, when can it learn? Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez penned it after 3/11:
ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez
I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth – Europe died in Auschwitz … We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world..
The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.
And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.
They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.
Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.
And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.
We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.
What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ……
Aussie Infidel says
CUNAMARRA writes, “The killers were shouting ‘Allahu Ahkbar!'”
The war-cry of the jihadists goes right back to Muhammad himself.
“When Allah’s Apostle fought or raided people we raised our voices saying, ‘Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! None has the right to be worshiped but Allah’.” Bukhari 5:59:516.
I listened carefully to many of the commentaries on the news channels. They all spoke about ‘terrorists’ and ‘Islamic State’, but not once did they mention the words ‘Muslims’ or ‘Islam’. Our Western leaders and news media are in a state of denial, and have not yet identified our real enemy – or are too politically correct or gutless to say so.
SOMEHISTORY writes, “No one made the moslims commit the terror”.
You seem not to understand the power of religious indoctrination (which is why I detest proselytism of any sort). These jihadists were born into Muslim families, raised in a Muslim society, indoctrinated with Islamic ideology, educated in Muslim madrassas, and subjected to Friday sermons by militant imams in their mosques (it was Friday 13th). All these factors condition a Muslim’s mindset to be predisposed toward jihadist behaviour. Of course, not all Muslims will actually commit violence to ‘fight against unbelievers’, but some will – only the ‘small number of extremists’ or sociopaths in their communities. Something made them do it alright! And that something was Islam – pure and simple! And one other thing. Muslims also fear other Muslims – that they could also suffer violence from the more militant types for refusing to participate.
“If you do not go forth (in the cause of Allah), He will punish you with a painful punishment and will replace you with another people, and you will not harm Him at all. And Allah is over all things competent.” (Quran 9:39). As the Ayatollah Khomeini said, “The only thing a Muslim fears after Friday prayers, is Allah.”
In the West, we have been brought up in a culture based on Judeo-Christian & Humanistic values and ethics, and the Golden Rule. But over the last few decades or so, our children have also been indoctrinated with leftist ideologies like political correctness and cultural relativism in the education system. Many people are in a state of cognitive dissonance, as many cannot believe that Islam is any different from the other two monotheistic religions. I’m an Atheist; but a Christian friend often says, “How can there be any difference? After all, we both believe in the same God.” But he hasn’t read the Quran or any of the other Islamic scriptures. At times, I’m sure he simply disbelieves what I’m saying – and continues on in his own ignorant world view.
Nevertheless, for most of us, I believe that our most important job is educating our friends and families about Islam. So come election day, their votes might just make a difference and get the right people elected, where the real fight-back can begin.
Jp calls for military action. I hope that legislative changes can stop the Muslim menace; but they might not come quickly enough. If that is the case, your solution will be the only one left – short of complete submission to Allah.
sahani says
Our science and intellectual fooling the masses not brining facts o islam and its writings.
Carolyne says
I would say with certainty that most Muslims are illiterate and cannot even read their own “Religious” books. In fact one cannot even accurately use the words “Science” and “Intellectual” in the same sentence as Islam. Islam has contributed nothing to the world of science, intellectual activity or humanity. You have married your first cousins for so many generations it is surprising you still have a brain, if you do.
roger woodhouse says
Excellent comment Aussie infidel.’terrorism and ‘Islam ‘ a never used together by the British media . A massive form of deceipt is being used against the Britih public. Both the Gaurdian and the Daily Mail are using the same tactic.The time for action is now upon us
R Cole says
On Islam let’s hope it is a comfort that only a small minority will engage in jihad. Because this is actually what the fundamentalist preachers believe.
Listening to one of the videos by Choudary [so-called Islamic ‘hate’ preacher] – where they seem to be taking pride in the fact that it was always ever a small number of Islamic fighters who brought nations under Islamic rule.
They even claim that Indonesia – the one we are repeatedly told was brought under Islam through trade and sharing of the message – was in fact taken over in violent conquest by a few ‘brave’ jihadists.
This word ‘hate’ is meant to stop us from listening to what the other guy has to say ~ on both sides.
And from what we are hearing – the violent attacks by the few – is very much Islam’s modus operandi.
Demsci says
Excellent post, Aussie Infidel.I agree a lot with it.
And it is my desire that we can discern roughly 3 groups; The Muslims of course, but then 2 among the Western Citizens; the ones wise to Islam’s threat and also conscious, precisely because of that, of the good tenets and values of Western societies, with those for spiritual solace and happiness attached. This is BETTER THAN ISLAM, for humans, societies, I daresay.
And then this majority of unaware, neutral, political-correct citizens, to which both media and politicians cater.
Now it is my question whether the pro-democratic people should be with the political correct unaware neutrals or against both them and the Muslims?!
In the first case we counterjihadists emphasize what we are AGAINST ONLY, in the second case we emphasize what we are FOR as well. Because WE can see what we are FOR, and like best,
but the Muslims have something else they are FOR and like best, and the “neutrals” are seemingly not interested in what we are FOR, they seem to be FOR nothing substantial. So, why should we save them from something they seemingly don’t want to save themselves?
mgolberg says
What they all mean… is that what is ‘feared’ is that critical thinking will once again raise it’s head and dreadfully be ‘allowed’. Islam is a supremecist ‘religion.’ It commands all others to bow to it, or else. And so if given power to do so, it has always asserted this ‘right’.
If it were only a supremicist belief, that would be fine- thinking it’s the ‘best’. Nothing inherently wrong or evil about that- but Islam, and Mohammed, command muslims to submit all others.
When muslems and leftists complain that others, ‘far-right’ will single them out, that is really what they oppose- the critical thinking that is ‘allowed’ to assess and assert this historical series of facts.
No one cares what a muslem practices or believes except when it involves what all others must believe or else their lives are in danger- NOT the muslems, as the whiners assert, but the non-muslems.
We all have to recognize this and prevent Islam and muslems from murdering us, and or submitting us. And no, no one should want to terrorize muslems. But guarding against what they don’t and can’t root out in their religion, culture and society, is what all the rest of us must do.
sahani says
Our Govt and our leaders and our media is keeping masses in dark all about ISlam.Its time every day articles on major papers should give historical facts on islam.Today we have 1.3 billion local converts to islam who have no freedom to leave islam and All due to writings in one book .The book source of all killings, declared as Holy need review by all.
loach says
After the Charlie hebdo attack in Paris to my knowledge the magazine wont show cartoons of Mohonnd again. French people thinking they wont be attacked again , yet now they are being attacked again. By Muslim and with so many no go zones all over France and a very active BCI movement in France . They would have been bitter off stopping all immigration into there country form Muslim countries. But its only a matter of time before Muslim and there apologize blame ever one else except Islam . Am see it oready on the BBC news.
Oliver says
What is BCI?
I agree with your comments. The cartoons were the cause of the attack on the magazine.
the reason for these attacks? A soccer game? a concert?
if one doesn’t like or approve, DON’T EFFIGN GO.
William says
This is well worth a listen especially if you think you are an innocent Muslim victim of Islamic fundamentalism … part of the “Muslim majority”
Brigitte Gabriel gives answer to Muslim woman claiming all Muslims are portrayed badly
Mo says
@ William
“Brigitte Gabriel gives answer to Muslim woman claiming all Muslims are portrayed badly”
If they don’t like being portrayed badly, maybe Muslims should stop beheading people, stabbing them in the streets, burning them in cages, and blowing them up with bombs. That might be a start.
As a side note, I’m done using and tolerating the use of the phrase, “radical Muslims” as well. Radical Muslims would be those who DON’T follow the Koran and Mohammad. Everyone else is following standard Islam.
Ralph Diamond says
I come to the comment section of Jihad Watch so I do not feel alone. But we are alone, are we not? How many people do you know who would support, nay demand, that our rulers close our boarders to Muslims? Not just the Muslims from what was once Syria. The Muslims that the fools who rule us permit to flood our lands. But all Muslims. For how can we tell a bad Muslim from a good Muslim until the good Muslim try to kill us. Having the temerity to ask this question, profaning the false gods of multicultural political correctness that the fools who rule us worship, is what makes us alone. If the evil men who brought us 9/11 and 11/13 are not good Muslims then where is the condemnations of these vermin from with in the realm of Islam? Are good Muslims not enjoined to walk in the footsteps of their ” prefect man”? We of the Jihad Watch family know that Islam’s prophet was a perfect monster.
How long ago was th Bottle Bomber, after which the fools who rule us banned bottles before from planes? Shortly after I had a friend rant about the inanity of airport security. I suggested that instead of banning bottles from planes we ban Muslims. He nearly bit my head off shouting you can’t do that. Why not?
The ruler of France just said 11/13 is an act of war. War has consequences. If we are to survive the evil that is Islam resurgent then Muslims must be made to repudiate those tenets of Islam that are used to bring death to unbelievers. If they will not renounce these totalitarian tenets then we must deny them the benefits of civilization.
There is no security to be found in point defense for there are unlimit number of points to defend. We must confront Islam, and the Muslims who embrace Islam faithfully, if we are to survive the evil that is Islam resurgent. That is why we are alone.
What city do you think good Muslims will nuke first?
Demsci says
“//If we are to survive the evil that is Islam resurgent then Muslims must be made to repudiate those tenets of Islam that are used to bring death to unbelievers. If they will not renounce these totalitarian tenets then we must deny them the benefits of civilization.”//
I agree; In essence we in democratic societies finally must limit freedom of religion, in existence in Europe and then Democracies, from the treaty of Westphalen, in 1648.
Clinging to any faith, with all of it’s texts, tenets and interpretations, must become conditional. On thoroughly democratic conditions. For instance; it cannot be that a citizen openly adheres more to the so-called “law of God” than to the constitution and law of the land as many Muslims do. And it cannot be that Muslims feel more loyalty towards their powerful Ummah (if it wasn’t powerful we wouldn’t bother) including mortal enemies of democracy, than to their countries of residence and it’s democratic system.
Why can’t reasonable nice political correct people, and their political servants, SEE that??
Mathew Solo says
This Cosmopolitan Society a …Secular Humanism…Progressive Pabulum…Pumping Out deceit…Is it working for Us.
Just as National Characteristics Do Exist…Nations Are Not All The Same…Religions Are Not All The Same…all those involved in developing this Muslim system who labeled it a religion of God… they had a chance to observe The Popular Professing Christian Movement of their time which was underway for hundreds of years by the time the Muslim Movement began …This Professing Christian Religion Was Run By Rome…the Romans usurped It from True Christianity which was completely driven into hiding by the third century… Rome was an influence upon these fledgling Muslims…the Muslim movement did observe Religion could be used as a Cohesive Control of the Masses…observing the Romans Doing just That successfully…the Muslim system…was conceived to suit the purpose of those who helped put it together over time…and has shown it is effective for what it was purposed….having this taught from birth can be a very powerful form of brainwashing…to be forced to practice it insures it will not wear off…making it obligatory in public for a show of reciting mindless gibberish is a strong social infliction…to not allow a private search for God is monstrous at best.
A Social System Based On This can produce citizens that outwardly seem complacent but inwardly have hard hearts and damaged minds.
No Folks…We Can Not Be Such Open Societies…that We Can Not Defend Our Own Way of Life…Our Own People….Our Laws may Need To Be Changed.
But I am afraid …
This can just go on and it is moving so quickly…until provocations cause mayhem…
Because we let it go until social unrest is ignited…This can get worse.
epistemology says
It’s preposterous. Their sole concern are the poor peaceful muzzies. Boohoo! Words fail to convey my rage. I’m so furious. This could have been prevented. The French have got great laws but they need to be applied. France is the most secular country in Europe, but Islamic violence trumps secularism. I hope the French people will be so enraged that they turn against the muzzies and the apologetic politicians
S Barkat says
Many will falsely or ignorantly claim that this has nothing to do with Islam, but this is a key fundamental of the religion
People with authority will claim,“We do not allow any form of discrimination on the basis of faith, caste or creed However, most of the Christians of all ages have awful experiences to tell due to their faith throughout the Islamic and all over the world.
o The Quran dehumanizes non-Muslims, describing them as “animals” and beasts:
Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)
Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)
Verse 7:176 compares unbelievers to “panting dogs” with regard to their idiocy and worthlessness. Verse 7:179 says they are like “cattle” only worse.
Verse 5:60 says the unbelievers are unclean. Verse 6:111 says they are ignorant. Verse 23:55 says they are helpers of the devil.
Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. This is echoed by verses 7:166 and 2:65.
A hadith (Bukhari 54:524) says that Muhammad believed rats to be “mutated Jews” (also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).
Verses 46:29-35 even say that unbelieving men are worse than the demons who believe in Muhammad.
Christians are abused, persecuted, and segregated nearly everywhere. “Christian cannot eat in Muslim owned restaurant, schools, colleges, office buildings nor they can drink water in same glasses which is worst kind of hate on religion in Pakistan but this new trend of prohibition on use of toilets in schools is inexpressible in words.”
Jack Holan says
No Guardian we’ll all sit in a big circle (no swords or AK47s) hold hands campfire in the center and sing Kumbayah
m meyers says
Until the Muslim world, that are not part of the murderers, every one of them suspect. They must actively stand up against ISIS. Those in the US need to assimilate into the US, and suit trying to shove Sharia down our throats.
dalriada says
Here’s a thought, why don’t all the Guardianistas, consumed with self-loathing and guilt over all the awful things white people did, you know, slavery, colonialism etc etc yada yada yada, just go and top themselves as a way of saying sorry for once and for all?
Oliver says
Great idea; and add, the New York Times people; MSNBC; ABC; CBS; and the liberal elitists progressives in the school systems 9 from k through graduate school); the governments, etc., do the same
mortimer says
When they attack the Guardian’s offices, they will change their Leftarded tune.
They will say: ‘Why didn’t the police protect us?’
CLOSE THE GATES to the jihadists. CLOSE THE GATES NOW!
Jerry says
Islam is a religion of peace, and I’ll gladly celebrate it an drink to that
and stand each and every one of my peaceful Islamic friends
at my own cost, on a peaceful sunset for a potent quart of ice cold beer
accompanied with a portion “Eisbein” (smoked roasted leg of pork)
or, as an alternative,
for a “Champagne” breakfast, comprising bacon and eggs
accompanied with a drink of good quality local sparkling wine.
Now, let us deal with the threat of “right wing groups” following
Islamic atrocities.
This is potentially just as realistic a threat as that of some Jewish
militant groups, including the Mossad, pursuing Nazi war criminals
and bringing them to Justice.
Just consider the numbers: How many innocents were slaughtered
by the Nazis and how few Nazi criminals were pursued and brought
to justice at the hands of Jewish vengeance?
How many innocent Non-Muslims were slaughtered and continue to
be slaughtered by the Islamo Jihadis neo Fasicst and Neo Nazis
and how few have so far suffered justice or vengeance at the
hands of “far right groups”.
Just vote for peace by peacing on each and every Qur’an and
Hadith you can find and close and demolish each and every
mosque used to incite and propagate Islamic Terror, even if
it takes closing down every single mosque in your neighbourhood
and country, and for the Israelis, even if includes Al Aksa.
Paleologos says
At some point you hope The French and the rest of Europe wake up, and realize it’s very not ok to have lots and lots of muslim enclaves, with the inevitable “police no go zones.”
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5128/france-no-go-zones
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5177/no-go-zones-britain
But I’m not holding my breath.
R/
Paleologos
Karen says
If it’s any consolation, this article by Natalie Nougayrède is mere filler, the kind of safe drivel you would phone in when you had nothing of substance to offer. She just rehashed old stuff with the required dash of hatefulness toward the Right, until she had filled the necessary space – yawn, such a bore. Not excusing her, just pointing out her insipidness.
Georg says
So it’s not the attackers inspiring hatred but the far-right? What illogic.
Angemon says
And whose fault is that? Whose fault is it that muslims acting upon islamic orthodoxy killed non-muslims?
Huh huh. What are you afraid they’ll do – go out and murder innocent people? That’s the islamic way, not the “far-right” way.
Aussie Infidel says
Angemon, As usual, some of the local press is once again pushing the ‘Don’t blame all Muslims’ line.
http://www.news.com.au/national/the-worst-thing-we-could-do-is-blame-the-australian-muslim-community/story-fncynjr2-1227609152618
As I’m sure you understand, descriptions such as ‘Far-Right’, ‘Racist’, ‘Islamophobe’, ‘Bigot’ and lately ‘Populist’, are simply terms used by Muslims and their ‘Far-Left’ allies to denigrate and silence anyone who opposes their favorite religion.
Angemon says
From that article:
How the hell is that even a thing?
Eric Miklas says
How exactly will Far Right Groups or ANY OTHER GROUP, fuel more hatred after what’s been done??? Are good people supposed to say it’s alright after what was just done??? I would hope there IS some type of retaliation ! ! ! France didn’t start this ! ! ! Force must be met with with force if good is to prevail over EVIL ! ! !
Oliver says
A thought-probably not very popular.
But the French PM and his Foreign Minister are among the most virulent anti-Israel politicians around.
The F. M., a few months ago, stated ( paraphrasing) that Israel should agree to some decree of some “compromise’ (IE. Israel giving up moire land, or stop building, or stop defending its citizens–I forgot exactly what) or he would support STRONG SANCTIONS AND THE BDS. (I am sure someone can google the article-I lost it). And i support the Boycott-IF DONE IN ITS ENTIRETY– NO CELL PHONES ( basic technology developed in Israel); NO PC (computers) (Pentium chip developed in Israel); none of the new medicines for MS.; MD.; LOU GEHRIG disease; or PARKINSON’S. ALL DEVELOPED IN ISRAEL.
THEY AND THEIR BOCHE COUSINS CAN USE THEIR MUSLIM CURES.
And, being repetitious, read SOLDIERING FOR FREEDOM BY OBERMAYER (if the name is wrong, very similar-I have it posted elsewhere)-Univ. of Texas press. ( Entire book is excellent, but read the parts- how the French ‘helped” the US and Britain after D Day. (They didn’t). (Obermayer was there; and later became a journalist).
rabrooks says
So I guess that means that mudslimes are never responsible for “jihad murders”?
Oliver says
IF you are responding to me, that is not my intent. The Muzzies ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR JIHAD MURDERS. AND OTHER CRIMES.
THE PROBLEM IS, THEY NEVER TAKE RESPONSIBILITY- THE WESTERN LIBERALS ALWAYS BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. ( JEWS, ISRAEL, ZIONISTS –OFTEN SUED INTERCHANGEABLY), western while people who SHOULD FEEL GUILT ( for what, I do not know); the US as an entirety; etc.
Marty says
There is only one type of Far Right group that we need
fear.
Muslims.
As self loathing Lefties, the Guardian & the BBC support
Islam because its practitioners are Third Worlders who
hate Jews.
If mohammedans were white (like the similar KKK), they
would be treated as Far Right racists, misogynists,
homophobic religious bigots with no cultural or scientific
achievements.
Oliver says
Do the Muslims have ANY scientific contributions? (I don’t count homicide vests and roadside bombing devices).
Have they made-in say the last 150 years- ANY contribution to the betterment of society?
daniel sebold says
A few month ago CNN was bleeding its heart over the heartless Europeans in Hungary. Now they are condemning them for not being strict enough.
Oliver says
CNN– Creative News Network.
But, it was founded by Ted Turner, Jane (BUT I LOVE AMERICA–AKA HANOI JANE) Fonda’s husband. Or, is it now, ex husband?) What can one expect.
Alv Vatzdal says
Robert Spencer, your interpretation of what the Guardian is writing, is a bit twisted. They are not saying terrorism is OK, but it is the far-right movements we should worry about. The are merely stating a reasonable analysis that after the terror-attack in Paris, the far-right will naturally have something valid to use when talking out against immigration, even if it’s from the extreme far-right, people might begin to listen seriously at it and call for revenge, not anymore understanding. Even here in little Norway there have been government buildings for immigrants burned down already and several in Sweden. We here in Norway also have a terrorist, a bomber and mass murderer (Anders B.B) in prison (probably for life) that used violence in a hatred against government when the little (like 2-3%) Social Leftists in a coalition with the strong (40%?) Labor Party public, voiced opinions that far acceded their minor role in this coalition.
Even the US embassy condemned this, with the Social Left talking about things like leaving NATO, wanting an embargo against Israeli, victimizing Arabs and the like that made the vast majority hate them so much that even the stable Labor Party lost massive numbers of members, so that the people would be sure to vote in a Right (the nemesis of Labor) and Progress Party (actually a party Anders B.B used to be member in) coalition with common, dull Right politic mixed with a populist anti-immigration Progress Party that the public have given more and more support as time has gone on, even if people used to look at them as silly weirdos in the 90’s.
So I would say that the idea of newspaper articles showing no signs of anything else then contempt for terror, and constantly talking about the refugees-crisis seem to be common over the whole continent I haven’t seen any signs in the papers (even though I haven’t read the today’s Guardian) that this horrible act is looked upon anything else then a horrible tragedy from a more and more brutal form of “Islamism” inspired by ISIS, to install fear into the population by bombs and senseless murders.
But if they can be called a objective newspaper, as a form of Fox News, they won’t just fill their pages with the same theme, but analyze it further, as seemed to be done here. The far-right powers is indeed dangerous and will only serve to intensify the conflict. It’s not many years since the last European Islam-Christian war, and if this go on there won’t be no stopping to make a new one, if these grave provocations from the middle-east go on.
The immigrants already here, even if they are “moderate Muslims” (like “Christians only going to church on Sundays), having western opinions, have a valid reason to fear an ever increasing hostility against them just because they look like Arabs.
Oliver says
Norway was anti-Semitic before Anders.
What did Israel have to do with his killing the people 9 who were pro Muslim, by the way)? If I remember correctly Israel also condemned his actions.
And, he later changed his views- saying that he was not against immigration.
By the way, WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE CRIME RATES IN LITTLE NORWAY AND SWEDEN SINCE THE INFLUX OF MUSLIM REFUGEES?
Say the last `10 years versus the 25 years before, adjusting for population. (IE per-capita crime rates).
And adjusted for population of native born Norwegians and Swedes, respectively.
Alv Vatzdal says
Oliver: It make no sense to call a country anti-Semitic (maybe you could say Norwegians are anti-Semitic, but the country in itself can’t be blamed for anything), and as I pointed out the far left Social Left had a influence over the country incompatible with their numbers, probably because of provocative suggestions compared to the a bit dull Labor Party. If you talk to an ordinary Norwegian on the streets here, you will have to search for a long time and probably at some leftist headquarter to find suggestions of Israel-hating anti-Semitic attitudes, or by the far right skinheads and Neo-Nazi’s that think Hitler was a great guy (these last ones are rare indeed, don’t have any statistics on it, but I feel certain that they might probably be less then 0.01% of the population). The normal thing is an deep aversion against Muslim immigrants and you wouldn’t have trouble finding anyone saying something negative against terrorism or Islam in general among the Norwegian ethnic people. This is also reflected in the politicians in power now, in the coalition between the Right and Progress Party and as I mentioned the Progress Party have been populist (adjusting their politics to the “man in the street”) and anti-immigrant, talking out against the obvious lack of integration among those that seek asylum here. A normal day at myself sitting at the tram or bus, is like being in a foreign land, where the “refugees” talk their own language, dress like they used to in the country their from, using hijabs etc. Only the Poles, that is our most numerous foreign population, are respected and sought after as hard working individuals, with no complaints about low wages, that is seen upon as a fortune in their native land, while they do the type of work – hard manual labor – ordinary Norwegians avoid after being spoiled by our oil-riches. Just a few days ago one of the Progress Party officials condemned a demonstration that had been outside an asylum-center, where the “refugees” from Syria said they lacked good enough food and internet-connection there, and he said rightly that these should be sent back and replaced by someone who really appreciate being given a safe haven here, fleeing from war and persecution.
Anders Behring Breivik were motivated to do his acts of terror as a kind of protest/revenge against the then current government, were anti-immigrant and convinced that in a few decades people would understand why he did as he did, because by then the country would be dominated by Muslims and Islam. If you want to study his convictions further he also wrote his “An European Declaration of Independence” that was heavily influenced and even plagiarized people such as Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, using their arguments as a valid reason to bomb and murder dozens of people. What he has said after being jailed is a lot of nonsense, he is constantly trying to get attention in media, as the psychopathic narcissist he is by saying this and saying that. Complaining about his old PlayStation, lack of computer, lack of opportunity for studies (that have now been given), the highly controlled prison-apparatus that surround him, and generally think he is being a victim by human-rights violations in one of the worlds most humane prison-systems.
The crime rates here have shown that most violent rapes are done by Muslim immigrants, since they have a view that when women here is whores, since they in the summers finally have the chance to get some sunshine on the body and are lightly dressed. Also gang-related crimes, seem to be dominated by immigrants or second generation immigrants, for example the shooting at the synagogue in Oslo with automatic weapons were done by one of these. Otherwise I haven’t studied the crime-rates, so I can’t tell much more.
Muslim immigrants have had a rumor for decades of abusing our welfare system (that Michael Moore told in one of his documentaries that he wouldn’t even talk about, because nobody would believe him), having in average more then 5 children compared to the ethnic Norwegian 1.5, and there’s at least the statement Anders B.B made about the native population, that our culture and religion will be replaced by an out-of-control immigration population, that might become a reality. Many believe that a reason for this massive population-growth by immigrant, is the massive economic support parents get while having children, for example husbands get paid for weeks after a birth to help take care of the children and also those that simply don’t want to work, still have the right for money for food and other life-essentials, a roof over the head, electricity and are living in luxury just by social service, compared to the countries they come from. If these rumors are true or not I haven’t seen any serious study of, but I haven’t seen any Arab beggars, Arab serious drug-addicts, Arab homeless people etc. All of them seem well-off, high middle-class and wanting for nothing, and neither want anything to do with the native population, but have their own stores to buy food, like halal-meat. Even at the National Day, a celebration for the Norwegian constitution and unofficially because of an end to centuries of “unions” with Denmark or Sweden – they insist having flags from their native country to wave with, instead of the Norwegian one.
I hope this answered some of your questions.
Alv Vatzdal says
I mean to write “(Not like some sort of Fox News”).
Alv Vatzdal says
And I meant to write “Christians only going to church at Christmas”. Sorry for the sloppy spelling. An edit function would be nice.